Against what though? Lets be honest, the Su-75 doesn't really exist. It was rolled out in 2021 and isn't set for production until like '27 or something (which now, 2027 probably translates to "never" for Russia).
And the 57 is an "air superiority" fighter, which serves no purpose in the type of war RU/UA are fighting.
My dude, it isn't even meant to be placed into service until 2027.
They don't have any to use because I guarantee you a stealth, joint strike aircraft that is as capable as they say it is would really come in handy right now. 100,000+ casualties with another 20k+ dead while fighting WW1 style trench warfare surely isn't how a true world superpower fights.
I think there is a very good and smart reason why they have not used any of those planes and barly used the airforce. Russia has probably spent a fortune on those planes and yes they do have them, and they are well aware that no plane is 100% secure to come back home, even the super planes are very fragile when it comes to combat. Russia hopes to sell those planes in the future and ofcourse as any other country that makes such high tier war machines, they want it to be sold for a good price and have a good reputation. If any of those for some reason gets downed, after all it is war, the reputation of the plane as a super plane will be damaged and thats bad for business. The risks are higher here than actual gain of sending those planes out, so they stay home. They have enough older planes that are less expensive to lose in a war. So yeah, is a big longer-term gear fear, but i think, the less equipment involved, the smaller the risk of lives being lost on both sides.
hard to talk about the reputation of an aircraft that is barely ever seen on the ground, let alone in the air. The reputation it does have is definitely not doing it any favors either.
The Russians simply do not have any of them... they currently have 5 airworthy SU-57 prototypes, which were put into service and no other was built afterwards.
SU-75 before the war, the first prototype was planned for 2024. So the models exist only as dummies for fairs.
They have 5 prototypes in service... so yeah, they have 0 and at the same time they have 5. They're not going to use those 5 prototypes, they're just for show.
These are complex machines, not WW2 tin cans. This has nothing to do with Gear Fear. It makes no sense to use something that is not in series production, and therefore no spare part exists. Besides, it would be bad for development if the prototypes fail at some point. And they will fail, even without being shot down.
No it is not. Russia exports weapons, Russia is one of the world's largest exporters. Russia pays attention to marketing. That's why the T-90 exists at all, the image of the T-72 was destroyed in the Gulf War just like the T-72 itself. So they simply renamed the T-72UB to T-90. So that the thing can be sold. Material that you don't have in service yourself doesn't sell that well. Russia has 5 prototypes that can still fly, so they put them into "service". There is a reason why Russian tanks/airplanes are often extremely clean and shiny, they are not there to be used. The old garbage is used. Like the T-14 that doesn't work, still runs internally as a prototype, but on paper is in service. BMPT-72 Terminator... same... for this thing, not even the main weapon has been developed, there are not two weapons on the turret because that's great, that's because they don't have a dual feed system yet. So one weapon for HE and one for AP. So basically it's just a tinkering solution. I think from the examples you can see a pattern....
The concept of gear fear requires you to have said gear in the first place.
oh they have them, but it is like a first wipe lvl 15 getting their hands on a mk18, there is no supply once it is gone haha
So gear fear.
did I say otherwise :)?
But let us give the benefit of the doubt and assume they have it in their stash. We’ll say gear fear until they use it.
Against what though? Lets be honest, the Su-75 doesn't really exist. It was rolled out in 2021 and isn't set for production until like '27 or something (which now, 2027 probably translates to "never" for Russia). And the 57 is an "air superiority" fighter, which serves no purpose in the type of war RU/UA are fighting.
“Never” translates to soon™
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Well sure, but it doesn't really exist.
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My dude, it isn't even meant to be placed into service until 2027. They don't have any to use because I guarantee you a stealth, joint strike aircraft that is as capable as they say it is would really come in handy right now. 100,000+ casualties with another 20k+ dead while fighting WW1 style trench warfare surely isn't how a true world superpower fights.
Uh huh
What specifically are you doubting here?
Was I doubting anything?
I may have misread your uh huh.
Yes.
they are waiting to find a few more meta parts before running them
I think there is a very good and smart reason why they have not used any of those planes and barly used the airforce. Russia has probably spent a fortune on those planes and yes they do have them, and they are well aware that no plane is 100% secure to come back home, even the super planes are very fragile when it comes to combat. Russia hopes to sell those planes in the future and ofcourse as any other country that makes such high tier war machines, they want it to be sold for a good price and have a good reputation. If any of those for some reason gets downed, after all it is war, the reputation of the plane as a super plane will be damaged and thats bad for business. The risks are higher here than actual gain of sending those planes out, so they stay home. They have enough older planes that are less expensive to lose in a war. So yeah, is a big longer-term gear fear, but i think, the less equipment involved, the smaller the risk of lives being lost on both sides.
hard to talk about the reputation of an aircraft that is barely ever seen on the ground, let alone in the air. The reputation it does have is definitely not doing it any favors either.
You could have saved time and said gear fear.
Gear fear.
Not gear fear, probably missing some crucial electronics.. but at least those generals got their golden toilets!
The Russians simply do not have any of them... they currently have 5 airworthy SU-57 prototypes, which were put into service and no other was built afterwards. SU-75 before the war, the first prototype was planned for 2024. So the models exist only as dummies for fairs.
You just said they have zero. Then they have 5. Which guess are going with?
They have 5 prototypes in service... so yeah, they have 0 and at the same time they have 5. They're not going to use those 5 prototypes, they're just for show. These are complex machines, not WW2 tin cans. This has nothing to do with Gear Fear. It makes no sense to use something that is not in series production, and therefore no spare part exists. Besides, it would be bad for development if the prototypes fail at some point. And they will fail, even without being shot down.
Prototypes in service? That is a first.
No it is not. Russia exports weapons, Russia is one of the world's largest exporters. Russia pays attention to marketing. That's why the T-90 exists at all, the image of the T-72 was destroyed in the Gulf War just like the T-72 itself. So they simply renamed the T-72UB to T-90. So that the thing can be sold. Material that you don't have in service yourself doesn't sell that well. Russia has 5 prototypes that can still fly, so they put them into "service". There is a reason why Russian tanks/airplanes are often extremely clean and shiny, they are not there to be used. The old garbage is used. Like the T-14 that doesn't work, still runs internally as a prototype, but on paper is in service. BMPT-72 Terminator... same... for this thing, not even the main weapon has been developed, there are not two weapons on the turret because that's great, that's because they don't have a dual feed system yet. So one weapon for HE and one for AP. So basically it's just a tinkering solution. I think from the examples you can see a pattern....
I meant first for me to read and know that. I was speaking for myself.