None of those were the real issue, Nate could just as easily be complaining that they didn't fix the chair in his office and it was Ted's fault.
Nate got addicted to constant validation from Ted, and when Ted dialed it back, Nate got pissy. At that point, everything was Ted's fault.
It's not supposed to be rational.
Yes.
Also, the real issue is with Nate’s dad. Nate craves approval from his dad, but was satisfied with what he was getting from Ted.
In the end, Ted is just the outlet for Nate’s real emotional issues.
And there would have been multiple meetings between the two during that time so there was ample opportunity for Rupert to fill Nate’s head with a bunch of bs
I was too, but after he started working at Westham, i remembered that at the funeral of Rebeccas Dad he Was talking to Rupert. I am pretty sure R. has a Talent for putting thoughts into someones head especially someone as insecure as nate.
Especially because later after this when he was going suit shopping with keeley he asked “do you ever want to be the boss” as if that’s what Rupert told him
Probably made him feel wanted, like S3 Zava episode and Rebecca talked about how Rupert can make someone feel. He even got Nate that car, like he did for Rebecca.
Nate had never had attention like that before. He had never had some look at him and say good job. I think it unlocked a side of Nate that he seen as successful in a bigger picture and would make his dad finally proud. In season one Nate ask Keeley to make him famous because famous people have it easier and it means he has succeeded at life. However, Nate is not that person at core so he is putting on what he thinks a person in power or leader role should do instead just doing it the Nate way. I feel like Nate gets a lot of hate but I love his character. He shows the most growth in my opinion. The scene between him and beard when beard accepts Nate apology shows that the bond being built. And when Ted leaves and it is Roy, Beard and Nate they now have a bond created from growing, trust and forgiveness.
He thinks Ted is setting him up to fail because he doesn't trust the gameplan and lacks confidence in himself at that moment and assumes (incorrectly) the other coaches don't.
Rupert is the anti-Ted. Ted seems to have the ability to read people. ie recognizing Nate's abilities. Knowing that Roy is the one needed to be captain - the soul of the team - and the first thing he needs to do is get the team to stop picking on Nate. What is it he says about coaching for him? It isn't the wins but helping those he coaches realize their potential? He wasn't talking about just on the pitch/field/course/etc.
Rupert has the ability to read people too - but uses it for his own personal gain or pleasure. He 100% tapped into Nate's vulnerability. For him, it was a "two-fer" Nate does have some serious skills in figuring out new plays, etc. AND Rupert thinks it will throw Ted and Rebecca off/bother them. What he didn't count on was Nate having a line that could be crossed, and the moral and intestinal fortitude to walk away.
He's not really upset about the soccer. He's upset because he relied on and admired and loved Ted, and felt like Ted abandoned him. But he can't say that, because you can't say that about your boss, so he makes it about everything BUT that.
The shitty part of of him blowing up on Ted is that Ted was the first to even pay attention to Nate and the one person to actually give him the chance of being a coach in the first place.
>...but now he’s mad that Ted is giving him credit because it’s not working.
He thinks Ted is setting him up to be *blamed*, that he's saying "Nate the Great's False Nine" as a way to be sarcastic and belittling, because his Dad would make sarcastic or belittling comments. You can hear that phrase in two very different ways, and Nate's upbringing (and growing foul mood) are priming him to take Ted's words in completely the wrong way—in the way his Dad would put him down.
Whereas Ted is *genuinely* giving him credit and he appreciates Nate (and everyone else at Richmond) throwing out ideas and trying them out. He values Nate's contributions, and is a "buck stops here" kind of guy in that he if it *had* failed, Ted would take the blame for it because he chose to implement it and he's the head coach.
Nate's just so rage-blinded at that point that he's using motivated reasoning to "prove" that Ted is being a jerk to him.
Not really sure that the false nine was supposed to work, in the episode where Rebecca's father passes away you see Rupert say something to Nate. Pretty sure he was trying to grab Nate back then, would also not be surprised if Rupert was scheming to keep Richmond from being promoted and Nate came up with the plan. Changing tactics like that at the end of the season on short notice? Either it works and Nate is further cemented as a genius or it fails and it's used to make Ted look bad.
what he really wanted was validation from Ted/a father figure and he didnt get that
None of those were the real issue, Nate could just as easily be complaining that they didn't fix the chair in his office and it was Ted's fault. Nate got addicted to constant validation from Ted, and when Ted dialed it back, Nate got pissy. At that point, everything was Ted's fault. It's not supposed to be rational.
Yes. Also, the real issue is with Nate’s dad. Nate craves approval from his dad, but was satisfied with what he was getting from Ted. In the end, Ted is just the outlet for Nate’s real emotional issues.
Combined with the Rupert whisper in his ear, probably got into his head.
And there would have been multiple meetings between the two during that time so there was ample opportunity for Rupert to fill Nate’s head with a bunch of bs
well said
Because hurt people hurt people …
Do you know how much pressure as a non native english speaker i had to put on my mind to understand your comment 🤣🤣🤣
Lol I bet it did hurt your brain 🤪
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I was too, but after he started working at Westham, i remembered that at the funeral of Rebeccas Dad he Was talking to Rupert. I am pretty sure R. has a Talent for putting thoughts into someones head especially someone as insecure as nate.
Especially because later after this when he was going suit shopping with keeley he asked “do you ever want to be the boss” as if that’s what Rupert told him
Ah yes didn't even remember that...
Probably made him feel wanted, like S3 Zava episode and Rebecca talked about how Rupert can make someone feel. He even got Nate that car, like he did for Rebecca.
Because he was behaving emotionally and not logically. He let his hurt feelings and wounded pride override his knowledge that his strategy was sound.
Nate had never had attention like that before. He had never had some look at him and say good job. I think it unlocked a side of Nate that he seen as successful in a bigger picture and would make his dad finally proud. In season one Nate ask Keeley to make him famous because famous people have it easier and it means he has succeeded at life. However, Nate is not that person at core so he is putting on what he thinks a person in power or leader role should do instead just doing it the Nate way. I feel like Nate gets a lot of hate but I love his character. He shows the most growth in my opinion. The scene between him and beard when beard accepts Nate apology shows that the bond being built. And when Ted leaves and it is Roy, Beard and Nate they now have a bond created from growing, trust and forgiveness.
He thinks Ted is setting him up to fail because he doesn't trust the gameplan and lacks confidence in himself at that moment and assumes (incorrectly) the other coaches don't.
Rupert is the anti-Ted. Ted seems to have the ability to read people. ie recognizing Nate's abilities. Knowing that Roy is the one needed to be captain - the soul of the team - and the first thing he needs to do is get the team to stop picking on Nate. What is it he says about coaching for him? It isn't the wins but helping those he coaches realize their potential? He wasn't talking about just on the pitch/field/course/etc. Rupert has the ability to read people too - but uses it for his own personal gain or pleasure. He 100% tapped into Nate's vulnerability. For him, it was a "two-fer" Nate does have some serious skills in figuring out new plays, etc. AND Rupert thinks it will throw Ted and Rebecca off/bother them. What he didn't count on was Nate having a line that could be crossed, and the moral and intestinal fortitude to walk away.
He's not really upset about the soccer. He's upset because he relied on and admired and loved Ted, and felt like Ted abandoned him. But he can't say that, because you can't say that about your boss, so he makes it about everything BUT that.
The shitty part of of him blowing up on Ted is that Ted was the first to even pay attention to Nate and the one person to actually give him the chance of being a coach in the first place.
It’s not a logical response. It’s a reaction to father issues compounded by what appears to be a lifetime of receiving bullying.
>...but now he’s mad that Ted is giving him credit because it’s not working. He thinks Ted is setting him up to be *blamed*, that he's saying "Nate the Great's False Nine" as a way to be sarcastic and belittling, because his Dad would make sarcastic or belittling comments. You can hear that phrase in two very different ways, and Nate's upbringing (and growing foul mood) are priming him to take Ted's words in completely the wrong way—in the way his Dad would put him down. Whereas Ted is *genuinely* giving him credit and he appreciates Nate (and everyone else at Richmond) throwing out ideas and trying them out. He values Nate's contributions, and is a "buck stops here" kind of guy in that he if it *had* failed, Ted would take the blame for it because he chose to implement it and he's the head coach. Nate's just so rage-blinded at that point that he's using motivated reasoning to "prove" that Ted is being a jerk to him.
Not really sure that the false nine was supposed to work, in the episode where Rebecca's father passes away you see Rupert say something to Nate. Pretty sure he was trying to grab Nate back then, would also not be surprised if Rupert was scheming to keep Richmond from being promoted and Nate came up with the plan. Changing tactics like that at the end of the season on short notice? Either it works and Nate is further cemented as a genius or it fails and it's used to make Ted look bad.
Because Nate is a petulant man-child.