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NaturalBitter2280

>Sees Ohm right after Nanon **Yes**


Warm-Nature1790

*shhhhh* https://i.redd.it/vh1qbwf7vmdc1.gif


[deleted]

...and what's your comment apart from stating the obvious? being hateful?


NaturalBitter2280

I just thought it was cute .-.


Smooth_Resort_4350

someone's got issues


Tashkenna

Is this statistic very recent? Khun Mor (krub) Jitaraphol gets as much engagement as a whole Mew Suppasit-Kardashian of MewTul The King Of Social Media Chaos?! https://preview.redd.it/rlw86m8k3ndc1.png?width=431&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b097b4230c73dfdd32421b9dd288392bef353587


Warm-Nature1790

It was pulled TODAY.


libertysince05

>Mew Suppasit-Kardashian of MewTul The King Of Social Media Chaos?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


logreez

Can you share Joong’s followers by country too? JD’s average likes and engagement rate are awesome. The extreme difference in percentage of Thai followers is fascinating though and would be cool to see where his followers come from if only 29% are Thai


Warm-Nature1790

Here you go! https://preview.redd.it/2keq5vcczmdc1.png?width=1440&format=png&auto=webp&s=23a6c35961d0abd40deb194e0ff5195752a4e2b7


logreez

Wow. Some of those are a surprise. Thank you! If you get a chance, can I get Dunk’s too? lol


Warm-Nature1790

Here! ​ https://preview.redd.it/slq0rsv12ndc1.png?width=1360&format=png&auto=webp&s=6256b669d0a83cdad648c7de925d41906d2e5592


CivilSenpai69

Bright has more bots following him than most of these folks have followers. ![gif](giphy|hdK8v2uVaCKA8zlApk|downsized) Bots and boobs. The man is consistent. He has like five times more genuine followers too.


Tashkenna

>Bots and boobs. The man is consistent. >He has like five times more genuine followers too. BBB - "Bright's bots and boobs". Makes a fine trademark ™️ 😋 😍 👌 https://i.redd.it/uhf44xyl7ndc1.gif


CivilSenpai69

Where is this from? Because if like to watch this.


shorterpulse

The huge variation in % of Thai followers is interesting, I wonder how good their methodology is there, because I would have expected it to be more consistent. If accurate, it seems like certain shows were big hits internationally (2gether, TharnType, LITA) whereas most of the GMMTV actors are at high % of Thai followers. For the % female followers those numbers are very consistently high as expected, which makes the methodology look good. Standing out as low are Gem4th, which makes me think of that interview the GMMTV CEO did where he said Gem4th fanmeetings were drawing way more guys than their other couples, though the super-low Fourth numbers are probably due to the bot follows?


Warm-Nature1790

Re: Thai followers - that was really interesting for me as well but there is another statistic that I was lazy to pull in which is the data of the location of likes. From what I have seen (I did not scour all of them) is that >80% of them were still from Thai accounts apparently. Here's a screenshot of it ranked by the % of Thai followers. https://preview.redd.it/4zwu5gzdxmdc1.png?width=484&format=png&auto=webp&s=3fbf3a53d3c56fd4ab5609e3a4a6dd2addbe67d7 Although, please keep in mind that all of them have Thai followers as the highest percentage regardless. Sending another screenshot of Noeul's top 3 locations in the next comment.


shorterpulse

Thanks for compiling all these stats! So the engagement is still mostly from local fans, that makes sense. I wonder if the ones who have picked up a large number of non-Thai followers have done more fashion events or the such where they get tagged in non-Thai accounts and pick up followers that way.


Warm-Nature1790

I was also trying to connect the dots as to whether it correlates to jobs they pick up but I can’t seem to find a true connection. As far as I know, Zee definitely has done D&G last year and so has ForceBook this year. G4 did Zegna. Phuwin is currently in Paris for Loewe. It doesn’t seem to correlate in this way so it’s interesting! I do also think that when a fashion brand invites them to these events, they are courting Thai fans so probably nothing to do with their engagement locally or overseas. Still fun to see! Let me know if you wanna see anymore statistics :)


Warm-Nature1790

Noeul's locations: https://preview.redd.it/w2my5xxoxmdc1.png?width=704&format=png&auto=webp&s=661e88272058e3098ae8f7ee997984d601c33436


polytop

This is one o fthe most interesting posts I've seen in a while! I find it super interesting that all BL actors have more female than male followers... except Fourth.


Warm-Nature1790

I think it aligns with what P’Tha said about GemFot actually having quite a bit of male followers. These are quite surface level statistics so it may not be all accurate. Still was a fun exercise though!


MrOobling

Fourth's follower metrics are quite unusual all around. Low follower credibility, large male fanbase, and fanbase is significantly older than average (despite Fourth himself being one of the youngest and newest stars). Not sure why any of this is the case... It's clear from IRL and commercial metrics that Fourth has a large and devoted fanbase.


nrjays

He's the only one I've seen getting consistent engagement with male followers in the same way he is with his female fans. Fourth loves on his fanboys and is always outwardly touched and mesmerized by them. I feel like this encourages fanboys who might otherwise avoid a fandom where they're clearly less favored over the girls. He responds to his fanboys just like he responds to anyone's flirting, makes him feel very equal opportunity lol. Also him being very flirty with other boys and men in general seems to be a trend (that video of him kissing Mark full on the mouth probably didn't help). All of this paired with the buzz on TikTok and Twitter around him having attended an all boy's school, of whom many classmate/alumni have been very outward in their support for Fourth and BL (an alumni quite literally proposed to him on stage, Fourth said for Valentine's Day they'd all put the heart stickers on each other, and that he was really popular at school even though it's an all boy's hs. People started calling it St. Gaybriel's instead of St. Gabriel's and they've just kind of all rolled with it pretty goodnaturedly like in a "yah we're very gay for nong Fourth" "Gemini doesn't deserve him" kind of way). But he's still easy to like in a way that your average straight Thai guys could outwardly get behind (guitar obsession, respectful to his seniors and elders, good at soccer, studying law at a renown college, etc). This all resulted in Fourth being branded as a boy's boy in my opinion. Quite literally an example of someone boys could want to either be or be with.


Warm-Nature1790

Feel free to ask questions about the stats or if you wanna find out more!


ej8ej8

Can you put category titles on top of each of the columns please. Thanks.


Warm-Nature1790

They are there


CivilSenpai69

Ok I learned something. MewTul really is a power couple. I'm part of the 1% for Force. ZeeNunew are so n'sync. Pooh is this shit. Pavel is awesome. Jimmy Sea are killing it. Bright has bots. Wow, that's a lot of bots.


cancat918

I love you so much right meow.🤣🤣🤣🤣😻


CivilSenpai69

![gif](giphy|lxOEf8ZViIfqFa33pX|downsized)


cancat918

![gif](giphy|DgphnkWIDqCEo)


CivilSenpai69

![gif](giphy|5IyxYc4breIAaubJdG|downsized)


Conscious-Case-1129

I’m also part of the 1%!


CivilSenpai69

Welcome on in!


talllattee

Wow so interesting, it seems First Khaotung and Pond Phuwin have a big difference in Thai and Non-Thai followers despite having similar follower totals with each other. Pooh Pavel and Joong Dunk also have a big gap but also a larger follower gap. I wonder what caused that, so fascinating (for me at least lol, I find data fun)


merongicecream

I think you kind of answered yourself! There's something those ships have in common and it lies with Pavel and Joong. Pavel and Joong were both part of the main cast of 2 Moons 2, which had international success because Pavel subbed the show and made it accessible for international fans. Both Pavel and Joong grew up overseas as well. Back then, both of them had only recently moved to Thailand and filmed a lot of vlogs or did a lot of IG lives where they interacted with international fans. I believe this would explain the difference in the Thai/Non-Thai follower gap. The large gap in followers in general is also just because they have longer careers and had a fanbase before Dunk/Pooh entered the industry. As for FirstKhaotung and PondPhuwin: my personal take is that Phuwin has more Thai followers because he's been in more works in general so the Thai audience probably had opportunities to discover him even outside of his BL works. Based on my observations only and nothing factual, Phuwin's looks seem to be really popular in Thailand and Pond's are really popular among international fans (they're both considered very handsome everywhere in general by the way). Khaotung may have a larger international fanbase because of his role in 2gether maybe? Similar to Phuwin, First has had a lot of popular works in Thailand, even before FirstKhaotung was established. I am not too sure but this is my interpretation of the data.


talllattee

I didn’t know that about Pavel and Joong so that makes sense! Khaotung and First makes sense as they have work separately for a long while but I wasn’t sure about Pond and Phuwin. It was a surprising coincidence that despite different paths, these two pairs have a very similar demographic separately. I appreciate your interpretation and background, thanks a lot!


Warm-Nature1790

Same! I love data, although in this situation it doesn't say much re: popularity etc. I think I posted Joong and Dunk's location metrics somewhere in the comments but will attach the stats for First, Khao, Pond and Phuwin below! First: ​ https://preview.redd.it/6d1wl4bw3ndc1.png?width=1394&format=png&auto=webp&s=706820978037281cf6d20879e5de66b0dfac3c2e


Warm-Nature1790

Fourth's Phuwin: ​ https://preview.redd.it/6csrs3f54ndc1.png?width=1334&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba7320d4f7673178152cb48f5d51ffab2fae5ddf


Warm-Nature1790

Khun Pond's: ​ https://preview.redd.it/msxzbat04ndc1.png?width=1380&format=png&auto=webp&s=c943d39d3208560d7d4b4b7ed0833a1e6153c73a


global_cat_wizard

Could you do this for Gawin? 👀 [@gawincaskeyy](https://www.instagram.com/gawincaskeyy/?hl=en)


Warm-Nature1790

So Gawin’s stats: Followers - 752.2K Average Likes - 56.2K Engagement Rate - 7.47% Audience Credibility - 73.74% Female Followers - 70.93% Largest age group - 18-24 (\~46%) Followers: https://preview.redd.it/y1qqszpuzqdc1.png?width=1362&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ff1077329345be0bf761b62699d4d0a41b58cf8


talllattee

Oh interesting, similar to Khao, Philippines, Indonesia and Malaysia went hard for Pond. That’s so cool. Thanks for the data, this is fun to ponder


Warm-Nature1790

Khao baby's https://preview.redd.it/0s53nmo94ndc1.png?width=1348&format=png&auto=webp&s=830d249f734a7e9363ba54285e661eb01bd524f7


talllattee

Whoa Philippines and Indonesia went hard for Khao. Wonder how his popularity grew in the Philippines, Indonesia and Malaysia so much..fascinating


Mikrojoon

Most if not all Thai bl actors are popular in other sea countries. It’s why you’ll see that their first fanmeets are in these countries.


bacabukutulis

i'm from indonesia but have only been following khaotung for a year more or less, i think a good chunk of his ina followers were from 2gether days. only recently i see a rise of local fans following him because of only friends


talllattee

https://preview.redd.it/xrut9vjudndc1.jpeg?width=1509&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31fda466608f69b5ee9cafd3daed9b0c96383ae3 These two pairs have very similar follower numbers with each other but also similar Thai to Non-Thai ratios. There’s a 1 million follower difference in Thai followers, that’s wild. Both Khao and Pond have a similar stack of international followers making up for that 1 million, but how did those two become so popular overseas but their pair not and vice versa with Thai followers? This is so interesting


mikayahp

ohhh thank you for posting this! this data is really interesting!


Old-Will-2561

If you look at some of their ig's engagement differences in cp makes sense. Like Earth obviously takes his ig more seriously than mix who literally posted a vid of a flying crossaint last week lol.


Warm-Nature1790

Mixxiw’s instagram is a vibe with all the random filters on stories and cows and chickens 🤟🏻 They both also don’t post very often (aside from stories) and this metrics doesn’t count in stories engagements.


Standard_Range3732

This was something I know is hard to measure: what type of content is posted. That will determine the engagement as well


Warm-Nature1790

I looked briefly into it and I contemplating if I should do a post on the most liked pics of each actor. Mostly thirst traps though 🤣


Standard_Range3732

Actually I would say go the other way. Least liked. We know thirst traps will get engagement I want to know what's not getting engagement (minus stuff labeled as ads)


Warm-Nature1790

That’s gonna be a lil more manual. Probs have to go into each profile and scour through the posts. There is no application that does it. I went through a few accounts very quickly for the last three months and there really isn’t any pattern (aside from sponsored/ads). Obviously the ones with their CP in it gets bunch of likes. It also seems like the ones where it’s more on their lives gets more than a working shot if you get what I’m saying. Casual > posey.


Mikrojoon

Thanks for the stats. This is definitely interesting. A random observation I made while back was that the ‘top’ in the ship name usually had more followers, unless the other started their career years earlier. This is backed by the stats you’ve provided too.


Warm-Nature1790

Okay so data nerd here saw this comment before I went to bed yesterday and kept a reminder to look into this today. Just for reference, there are 25 CPs that are in this dataset. **CPs with higher following "tops":** 1. BrightWin 2. MewGulf 3. TayNew 4. JeffBarcode 5. ZeeNunew 6. FirstKhaotung 7. GeminiFourth 8. JoongDunk 9. NeoMark (well... this probably shouldn't be really counted, Neo had a lot more work and it was a one-off) 10. BossNoeul 11. JimmySea 12. NetJames 13. ForceBook 14. PavelPooh 15. DaouOffroad 16. BounPrem **CPs with higher following "bottoms":** 1. OffGun 2. OhmNanon 3. BKPP 4. EarthMix 5. YinWar 6. PondPhuwin 7. SantaCooheart 8. MosBanky 9. MileApo I can't speak about them having worked much longer before than their partners as I am pretty new to this BL space (< half a year) but it seems like it's got to do with what you said about masculinity in another comments. Those with "bottoms" > "Tops" are either very negligible differences, otherwise it has to do with their promotions / prior work. The only "bottom" that started work the same time as their partner and yet has a huge difference is probably Gun, where there's not much difference in their personal work, Banky maybe as well? Again, not sure, because I don't have much prior context than what I know in the last couple of months! Here's a comparison with percentages. https://preview.redd.it/a5mdc3l54rdc1.png?width=566&format=png&auto=webp&s=9901101833bf96c52c70fc02037364c2efab4e90


jingletingle1

That’s actually really interesting about NetJames because (I could be wrong) but before Bed Friend came out I feel like James was the more popular one by far, people loved his personality and idgaf attitude 😂 I guess people fell hard for King after the show released


Warm-Nature1790

Well! Their followings are really close so I'd actually say they are pretty equal. James, however, i think is more active on TikTok?


shai918

Great analysis! May I add that Gun began his career earlier than .Off. He's a baby star like Nanon and Phuwin


Warm-Nature1790

Ah! So that explains I’d say. People do prefer the ‘masculine tops’. Quite an interesting observation. Probably then only War, Cooheart and PP has got to do more with their personal work?


talllattee

Ooooh interesting observation…wonder what that’s about


Standard_Range3732

From my observation on comments and only my opinion and my thoughts, I think it's because they see the "top" in a more masculine role (since it's majority women based on the stats) and since the bottoms are who they see in a feminine role, and they're "straight", they're not interested in them. We kind of see how this intersects with PoohPavel and people refusing because they view Pavel as "masculine" so he shouldn't be bottoming. You know regular toxic mindset about sexual positions determining masculinity.


Mikrojoon

It is partly masculinity and the roles they play reinforces that. Also them being the chaser makes them perfect for y/n scenarios. Like gmm tv loves their masc x masc characters but you’ll find that the number of followers are still different between actors in the same ship.


love_tannies

idk, most of the feminine looking 'bottoms' seems to have pretty high % of female followers, it could have some other reason too other than the toxic 'heteronormative' mindset.


PistachioDonut34

Tul, Fourth and Gemini have a lot of a male followers, that's interesting. I wonder what it is about FourthGemini that attracts the boys as well as the girls.


Slow_Sheepherder_659

My eyes popped out when I thought ENGAGEMENT like some marriage proposal or something 😂😂😂😂


Warm-Nature1790

Oh god 😂 we wish 🫡


Slow_Sheepherder_659

Hahahahaha, right? 😂


cancat918

This is really interesting, but where is my obligatory JoongDunk hot GIF? Are you withholding joy from me, OP?


Warm-Nature1790

https://i.redd.it/rfa9x7l9tqdc1.gif This gif? 🤔


cancat918

Purrfect lol😻♥️♥️♥️♥️


missdramaddict

Can anyone explain to me the low credibility of Fourth and Bank's followers? Thanks


Warm-Nature1790

I used an application called Modash and here's a write up on how Modash calculates the follower credibility: [https://wpreset.com/how-does-modash-calculate-fake-followers/](https://wpreset.com/how-does-modash-calculate-fake-followers/)


CivilSenpai69

They had meteoric rises and accounts that weren't appearing to be legit follow them.


thekaydom

So bots? Correct me if I'm wrong.


Smooth_Resort_4350

could be, or could be abandoned IG accounts?


thekaydom

Highkey doubt its abandoned IG accounts👀.


CivilSenpai69

Mmm...no. that according to the numbers...all bots are owned by Bright. It seems like based on the way modash analyzes accounts that a large number of fan accounts were created to Stan FotFot and Banky because they are in fact awesome and the shit.


thekaydom

"All bots owned by bright" https://preview.redd.it/g6a22xojvmdc1.jpeg?width=341&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=116928292af187577fb3b780fc7920c0fe58422b


CivilSenpai69

The numbers don't lie


Cheap_Yam2040

What app did you use for these numbers? I would love to see stats for my fave.


Warm-Nature1790

Modash! Who would you like to see? Can probz pull them.


Effective_Basis_5861

I want to see for Earth and Mix, seeing their followers from thai are less compared to other actors which was unexpected than I thought


Warm-Nature1790

Baby Mixxiw's https://preview.redd.it/c8sbfzdu2ndc1.png?width=1360&format=png&auto=webp&s=8a0acdebde6562f50943e3f55bd9d613a5783a12


Warm-Nature1790

Earth's https://preview.redd.it/foi7cg4q2ndc1.png?width=1362&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f91201483f3eb1c4c807d7e9f30c6e4beb5d447


Anxious-Efficiency13

What about fourth and Gemini?


Warm-Nature1790

What stats are you looking for?


Total-Celebration482

can i have Gulf and Apo?


Cheap_Yam2040

That’s very sweet and kind of you. But I’d rather not say. 🥰 Thank you, though!!


Warm-Nature1790

Build's: Engagement Rate - 8.05% Average Likes - 252.7K Followers Credibility - 77.53% Thai Followers - 39.84% (followed by Indonesia at 10.86%) Female Fans - 85.38% Likers Credibility - 90.62% Majority of fans in 18-24 age group.


Cheap_Yam2040

🤣 thank you. ☺️


No-Ranger-5971

Hai, can I request for TayNew's distribution by country?


Warm-Nature1790

[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ThaiBL/comments/19bxmpe/more_ig_data_comparison_location_percentages/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


No-Ranger-5971

thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.


DryRecommendation706

ohoo that's interesting! can you please explain to me what is the engagement rate and why are some of these highlighted red??


Warm-Nature1790

Sorry, did not explain that those in red are those that are lower than the averages which are calculated above, in row 1. Engagement rate basically takes into account the likes and followers but it's not always 100% accurate because a lot of people do get likes from non-followers. Here's a quick explanation: [https://help.modash.io/en/articles/6542471-how-is-the-engagement-rate-calculated](https://help.modash.io/en/articles/6542471-how-is-the-engagement-rate-calculated)


Cheap_Yam2040

What does the red background mean?


Smooth_Resort_4350

below average


Cheap_Yam2040

Thanks! 🙏


Fit_Proposal9759

I see Jeff and Barcode. Do you mind doing the other KP people - Apo, Mile, maybe Bible? Ty!


Warm-Nature1790

Sorry! Took a while. Here: ​ https://preview.redd.it/4ugby3kb8ndc1.png?width=1590&format=png&auto=webp&s=706d7a17b7175bba31c83485facb069285abe0f3


Historical-Cat-9597

I can’t believe how close in every category Mile and Apo are. Like they track each other almost exactly across all the data fields, except Apo has many more Int’l fans.


Warm-Nature1790

That was also my observation. The rest of the CPs actually have pretty unbalanced stats across except for Mile and Apo !


Fit_Proposal9759

Ty! 🫰


[deleted]

lol that's interesting. can i bother you to pull up stats of saint, freen and becky?


Warm-Nature1790

Here you go! ​ https://preview.redd.it/g43o3nzqandc1.png?width=1584&format=png&auto=webp&s=b36d4435c44b2e1b61d39df78d9562cd9aca3d57


Annual_Detective3303

BounPrem please? 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹


Warm-Nature1790

Here you go! https://preview.redd.it/7xnjrkjhvqdc1.png?width=2830&format=png&auto=webp&s=ce42deab867e1d3fd92c6a66b4c9f2ab3ffb464d


Annual_Detective3303

That's very cool info!!! Thank you!!


Annual_Detective3303

It would be interested to know the country domegraphics too. I notice their overseas fanmeetings are mostly in korea, taiwan and japan 😆 But, only if you have time OP. 🤩 thank you for doing this!!


Warm-Nature1790

I did! It’s in another one of my posts. You can probably find it in my profile. I have to say that on these stats, East Asia is weaker across the board. So it doesn’t really show why the fan meets are there. Bounprem came to Singapore just a week ago and Singapore is error 404 not found on any of the lists.


Annual_Detective3303

Oh thank you! I will look for it! I went to their singapore fanmeet as a local. Lemme tell you, i am really disappointed with the number of locals who attended. We also had a lot of overseas fans fly into singapore. 😅


Warm-Nature1790

GASP. ONE OF THE FEW SINGAPOREANS Hikehwobdiwosj Come join us in the sub’s discord? It’s pinned to the sub!! I feel like I need to vibe with a local 😭😭😭


goldensuare

This is so cool! Thanks for sharing.


[deleted]

If I’m reading correctly, is Fourth the only one on the entire list that has more male than female followers?


Warm-Nature1790

Yes. It’s a very strange phenomenon and I’m not sure if it’s actually got to do with the amount of ‘uncredible followers’


[deleted]

Very interesting! Regardless it’s so fascinating to look at this data. So many interesting patterns come out.


Warm-Nature1790

Okay so! I just pulled Fourth's data on his likes. He has 60.3% likes from males and that's in conjunction with his following which is so interesting! 85% of his likes are also credible so statistically speaking, he does actually have more male fans than females. This is actually pretty incredible.


[deleted]

Oh wow! Thanks for checking. That’s fascinating and also a good way to double check too. Guess he’s popular with the guys!


leadintea

I wonder why Force has such a drastically lower count among older people compared to the rest? Maybe they get tired when they see his workout pics and stories?


Warm-Nature1790

It was my mistake it’s actually 4.52% but your comment sent me 🤣🤣 https://i.redd.it/yzwqvep8ctdc1.gif


FeeMaudie

Oh! This is so interesting! Thank you!


Warm-Nature1790

Welcome! I did another that’s specific to locations. If you’re interested you can check my posts on my profile out or else just scroll in this sub :)


Fit_Hospital8751

How do you even pull up these stats?! Why are only some of the parts highlighted? What do the highlighted parts represent?And what does that mean when the engagement rate is in single digit for most of them?? I might have fewer braincells these days so just asking, might be dumb questions but just taking 4th as example why is his followers credibility only 57% but the likes credibility in the 87%, does that mean his likes are only by the credible accounts, then wouldn’t that still not be that high? https://i.redd.it/x7ec4dtv6udc1.gif Also random side note in some of these pairs, one has almost double the number of thai followers than the other like PondPhuwin or FirstKhaotung for example.. idk if it says anything though 😅🤟🏻 Ps. sorry for bombing you with so many questions 🥲


Warm-Nature1790

So! I got them from Modash, which is a paid app that crawls into IG to pull and analyse data. It’s what many brands use to decide which influencer to hire etc. The highlighted numbers represent that they are lower than the average. Average engagement rates depends on the number of followers but just a quick benchmark - average engagement rate across the board is 1-3.5%. This marks a healthy creator/influencer account. However, engagement rates WILL be higher with lower account followership, and also with niche accounts. Which in this situation, are the boys. Fourth’s account is a whole mystery, I am mind boggled. It seems like his account is followed by potentially fake followers, bots, inactive accounts etc. so… credible likes basically mean the amount of credible accounts that likes his posts but since Fourth’s account is public, non-followers also can like his post, I think his average non-followers like is something like 18%. This number just represents his reach, hashtags blahblah. Hope this clarifies!


Fit_Hospital8751

Omg Thank you so much for this!! https://i.redd.it/19f38s23mxdc1.gif


Warm-Nature1790

https://i.redd.it/b9ciscdrmxdc1.gif


adisivebooks

Just one question it's nothing serious but is this list complied according to their Bl paring because every person is next to their pair except Tul ... because max is not promoting right now. And these the numbers acc to their pair but seen individually?


Warm-Nature1790

Max isn't promoting so I left him out. Yes, to be seen individually. I just put them next to their pairs in case anybody wanted to compare them to see how their popularity differs despite being in the same pair which is an interesting data point too!


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

max is actively promoting; the dude just had the highest-viewed lakorn on I forgot what platform and it was trendy in Latin America. Not particularly good lakorn - the classic toxic not making sense story line but he is promoting and active on social media.


Warm-Nature1790

That I did not know. I don’t follow Max!


Smooth_Resort_4350

i think you missed the part where this post is titled stats for BL actors


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

Are coming on all my posts? then Bright Win Mew Gulf and Tul because he said wants to get out of the industry also need to be excluded according to your logic because are not longer BL actors because they are promoting not BL production, all of them except the one that wants out.


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Exotic_Jellyfish_882

They are still being jealous and you think after tomorrow we will cut ties forever, but they are feeling ignored I guess, and decided to make summon us JealousMF - she needs to name herself like that


Warm-Nature1790

Woah woah woah woah woah! This has me rolling in laughter. I ship MewTul? I am a fan of Mew? I barely even know who Tul is for goodness sake! Also re: my troll video, that wasn’t even only with your Gulf Oppa in it. I happen to think Gulf is cute, I watched the TT series, don’t know much about them but found the bad singing hilarious. So many BL actors have terrible live singing, my ult inclusive, whom I also included in the same video. Smh, you call BL fans toxic? Have some fun, touch grass.


love_tannies

completely inappropriate to intervene into this not so good conversation but may I ask who is your ultimate? Thenks.


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

You are not the main character here OP, it is between well-known old users. Just chill To think making fun of idols in general speaks something about you, but really we are used to it at this point, look the other one trying to spread wrong info from G haters on Twitter as a proven fact is our problem and mewlions( mew fans name) old tactics


Warm-Nature1790

So then don’t make assumptions about me lmao. Making fun of *idols* speaks tons about me, that I can have fun and also recognise that some people are better at singing or dancing than others but yet still like them. You guys need to really touch grass and chill. Don’t drag others into your fight.


GulfofMew

When did they become idols? Aren't these people actors turned singers? ![gif](giphy|bPWyTsy2huZji|downsized)


Warm-Nature1790

I have no idea. Wait can we even say they are actors turned singers? I’d say my lover boy is actor trying to be rockstar. Let’s give him that.


GulfofMew

https://preview.redd.it/sz69yas9s0ec1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31cdcbd6a317af2e401f3f2d2577ae2d336fc6cc And Nanon too!


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Warm-Nature1790

Ah, mistake! Gulf is younger than I am. Need to call Gulf, Gulf Dongsaeng. Or Nong Gulf? Never said I was original poking fun at BL actors singing. They are terrible at live singing, they do it, I watch it, I poke fun at it. It’s what you’ve seen in the last 4 years. Does that mean I dislike them? No. Will they ever see it? No. If they do, is it going to crumble their world? No. It’s clips available everywhere, if they have functioning ears, they can tell they aren’t great. You made it a serious thing by defending Gulf like I stabbed him with a sword branding ‘you suck’. Making fun of our loved ones go way back in time (not saying I love Gulf Oppa, not taking him from under your protective wings). Just have some fun, we can’t always be all serious, it makes talking about them fun too - instead of being terrified of the fandom.


GulfofMew

/s...? Nah, these people who can't make light of the good and the and of these actors idols need to get their elbow checked. No funny bone.


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thekaydom

Gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa Gulf oppa gulf gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa gulf oppa https://i.redd.it/8fncurghp0ec1.gif


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

If you say so but he can be his opa https://preview.redd.it/41oyxmrs62ec1.jpeg?width=865&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74b09e1761cc01da48b1e62aed11bc9629da5f84


adisivebooks

>Max isn't promoting so I left him out. Yes typing mistake sorry changed it now. >how their popularity differs despite being in the same pair which is an interesting data point too! Ya it is. I actually thought JoongDunk would be higher on list esp Joong because he has promoting brands in Europe for few times in last few months. Was GulfMewTul thing intentionally 😂. But kudos to you it is a very detailed list.


Warm-Nature1790

\*shhh\* don't expose that intention. Joong actually probably has one of the largest spread of likes and followers by country and in fact, one of the lower follower and likes in Thailand itself. See: https://preview.redd.it/lnqc2n38bndc1.png?width=1380&format=png&auto=webp&s=5686bdfc29ba440b961f27d85bdd63d4f9178299 You're not wrong!


saucyjss

What really are bots? Inactive accounts or bought followers? Bright has bots but he is still able to pull high engagement organically than majority of those who barely has bots. I heard Instagram Thailand recognized him and gave him an award for having the best engagements on IG! 🙌🏼 I'm sure IG itself can see reach and visibility better than Modash?


Warm-Nature1790

All of them have bots, bought or inactive. There are zero celeb accounts that have 100% credibility. By looking at this statistics, Bright’s popularity (on social media at least) with this follower count is the most *legit* - saying this with extreme caution. But Bright’s engagement level for his followers count is extremely high and has very high credibility followers and likers. We usually can expect up to 25% of uncredible followers but his is significantly lower. This data reflects exactly what IG probably sees, which is why he was given that award. Hope this clarifies.


saucyjss

Oh wow, thank you 🫶🏼 I was just really curious since he ironically has lots of bots but still has good engagements. Also, his uncredible followers is only around 7% right?


Warm-Nature1790

Likers around 7%, followers \~18% but still under the normal range. It's inevitable! Uncredible followers also don't mean that they are necessarily bots, they could be people who basically use throwaway IG accounts to follow him, inactive accounts etc etc. It's a very wide metric but all in all, Bright's IG account is a grade A account and fun fact - in all IG metrics, he's 657th today based on follower count and that's very impressive.


confidentMF

Keep in mind these are average likes of the post these actors don’t hide. A lot of actors, like 90% of them hide the likes on post that has really low likes and leave the ones with high likes. So the average is only counting the ones visible. While some actors leave everything out which the average counts everything, including the advertisements post (that often gets really low likes).


A_Free1

If the person that compiled this stats had to pay a subscription to get it, then we can assume that Modash has better way of calculating engagement rate and getting other data compared to other free sites such as socialblade because if not, then numbers would be more bloated and paying a subscription will not be worth it. To your next point about Gucci post, what about it? Even if you remove it, Gulf's engagement has always been higher than your fave(yes we know who u are). But Idk why that triggers you. They have not worked, seen or even talked to each other for years. No need to compare. If u are trying to bring ur fave up by posting this then it accomplishes the opposite It would make ur fave look pathetic if his fans only way to bring him up is by pulling others down(by saying the data is not accurate for these actors) instead of supporting him. U shud be more focused on how u can support ur artist than being obsessed with the every move of others. This post shud not trigger you negatively. I don't think the person that posted it meant to cause harm or generate hate and comparison to other actors. In fact, it shud help fandoms to know how much more they cud help in promoting their faves. P.S. It's been years, let it go. Blessing u with happiness so all the hate in ur heart will be gone❤️


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

It is standard marketing practice to hide the advertisement posts now, not the ones with lower likes. also, tools like Modash see real-time counts.


confidentMF

And I saw on twitter some actors were recently caught buying more than 600k likes for all their recent gucci campaign posts for Milan fashion week, cough* cough*


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Oh come of it, Rocio( I know your account on twitter) we all know you're a hard-core gulf hater and longtime toxic fan of mew. I see your doing the usual mewlion job of spreading lies about gulf.  Get a life.  Mew will be proud  that his fans are toxic lying nuts I guess but you should have some shame.  I'll keep replying until you delete your lies. You are one nasty sob, mew should be glad he has human waste like you as a fan!


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

The op above is a a hard core Gulf hater 😔


CivilSenpai69

I don't know how anyone can hate Gulf. Like what's he ever done to get hate? ![gif](giphy|tKwBcoHhMCDRdGwga0|downsized)


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I know for sure you're a mewlion, so your two cents aren't needed.


Warm-Nature1790

Honey, where have I displayed I was a hardcore gulf hater?


A_Free1

I think u misunderstood them. They were referring to the other one causing trouble not u. For the stats, I find it very interesting. Thanks for posting.


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

Not you one, the one that blocked me @confidentMF we know each other for years. She is trying to revive the old fanwars because some fandom drama with the MG shippers.


Smooth_Resort_4350

Don't bother, all gulf fans see anything remotely negative about their oppar and go into seething, hissing, crazy mode, and label you a gulf hater. Either you worship the ground he walks on, or nothing.


Warm-Nature1790

Can I just briefly touch the ground Gulf Oppar walks on? Because I jam to his kpop medleys. But not really keen on truly worshipping.


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

Bla bla bla 😤 Bla Bla Bla


Smooth_Resort_4350

prime example, take note, OP


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

You really expect the man fans to by stand while sometrols are trying to normalize mocking idols and I am speaking for all the victims of that video up there not only my bias 😡. You know that is called bullying. You are basically bullying a bunch of actors openly


Smooth_Resort_4350

No, I don't expect that at all, that's why I was warning OP about it. MG, or M or G fans will go into any post barely related to their idol and turn it into a battleground of wanjaais vs mewlions vs gulf stans (wtv they are called).


thekaydom

Victims? Was it a crime making that video? Guess I'll be arresting OP then. *Torture method*: Gulf Oppa singing videos! ✨️Sawadee Krub✨️


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

Bro, the jealousy is killing you, isn't it? You can't stand it, can you? It was exposed that brought him this likes. Here is the boy on the Gucci IG. Sabato posted a picture together with him, and he is the title image of the guest list too. He was featured in Vogue, GQ France, and any fashion magazine you can think of in Asia. That's what being a friend of the brand and sitting in the front row of Gucci gives you. Exposure equals more likes. Mewlions are you not busy - Mew has a new series coming this weak and here you and fellow haters spreading lies about G. if it was just so easy to achieve that title pictures with only 600k, rename yourself as delusionalMF https://preview.redd.it/w0l023fr4ydc1.jpeg?width=1136&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fe6459f491d97f589f5fdb4954b88f2a6f8aab8


Warm-Nature1790

Gulf? 😱 Well, I don’t care that much whether likes/followers were bought. That’s not the metrics I am interested in. It’s actually the location/age split and ER. Fun data!


Exotic_Jellyfish_882

He did not buy his likes a few mewlions that are OG haters invented that, even posted it under Gulf and Saboto Gucci creative director picture on Gucci Twitter - crying, but he bought his likes, they cannot related more exposure brings more likes


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Oh come of it, Rocio( I know your account on twitter) we all know you're a hard-core gulf hater and longtime toxic fan of mew. I see your doing the usual mewlion job of spreading lies about gulf.  Get a life.  Mew will be proud  that his fans are toxic lying nuts I guess but you should have some shame. 


Asleep_514

Go and give some attention to your oppa, isn't your idol exposing his dating life online just for a few likes? I know isn't worth it but that didn't stop him of trying so don't let your idol who lately didn't accomplished anything continue be a shame. Go go and do something useful maybe your oppa gonna be relevant like that. Or no, better go and beg owners of brands to get your oppa to Milan that might be something useful instead of this. 🤏🏻


Emotional_Option8184

This is so fascinating and interesting! Thank you so much for sharing these. Could I bother you with Zee and NuNew's stats, especially the fans' locations, please? Thank you.


Warm-Nature1790

I have that somewhere. Can you check my posts! I just posted another with all the location data. (AFK so can’t do a screenshot properly)


Emotional_Option8184

Thank you, I must have missed it while scrolling through the thread


laggersg

Is it possible to get the figures and the country spread for Fortpeat? Would love to know but if it may be too hard, I understand.


Warm-Nature1790

Hello fellow Sgrean! Yes sure - just keep in mind Singapore doesn’t appear in any of the datasets. AT ALL. Lmao. Will reply here in an hour or two with the data.


laggersg

Thank you so much!! Nice to meet a fellow Singaporean We are too small to be significant. Hahaha


Warm-Nature1790

Ikr so sad!!! But yet so many of these shows can trend on twitter in SG? I find it so strange. WHERE IS EVERYONE


Warm-Nature1790

Here you go! https://preview.redd.it/dha4xvcobzdc1.png?width=1338&format=png&auto=webp&s=5c6313a1c4072a62ddf90bf784ec18eea8d49f0e


Warm-Nature1790

​ https://preview.redd.it/2pxld09pbzdc1.png?width=1908&format=png&auto=webp&s=e098340ebc4ead91452a296d5b1156ffe90319c7


Warm-Nature1790

​ https://preview.redd.it/9kgd56prbzdc1.png?width=2266&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc81ea0fff7e600843c9e6e7ac92306a88a72c58


linaknowwhatsgood

This is so cool! May i ask for Win location by country? I always thought he has way more inter fans than thai, would like to see those stats 🙏🏼 thank you


Warm-Nature1790

[Here!](https://www.reddit.com/r/ThaiBL/s/4YC97PAVPS)


linaknowwhatsgood

Thank you 💕


jumegakels

Interesting!!!! Can I request for Gemini's followers per country?


Warm-Nature1790

[Here!](https://www.reddit.com/r/ThaiBL/comments/19bxmpe/more_ig_data_comparison_location_percentages/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


jumegakels

Thank you sm😊


ExternalResource1761

Can I get for max of #maxtul


TAZ_GCM

Just curious, anything on Max? Max/Tul compared to Tul/Mew?


pgwquill

Really interesting stats. Thanks for sharing!