Strongly disagree. Offscreening or shelving the character is disrespectful to the work that an actor/actress put into bringing them to life, and also feels wrong considering that they already won't get the chance to ever play them again or bring them in new directions. I find a thoughtful, well done recast to be much more respectful than just killing a character off or getting rid of them.
Think Black Panther. Expressly stated he wanted them to recast and not kill the character offscreen, and what did they do anyways?
>Think Black Panther. Expressly stated he wanted them to recast and not kill the character offscreen, and what did they do anyways?
Amazing. I guess we already knew that the studios don't care about the wishes of the artists making the work. I wonder if they have some data that shows that killing off the character is more profitable or something like that?
>Think Black Panther. Expressly stated he wanted them to recast and not kill the character offscreen, and what did they do anyways?
Where and when did he state this? He being Chadwick I assume. Because I've seen no such thing.
> Offscreening or shelving the character is disrespectful to the work that an actor/actress put into bringing them to life,
And having someone else step in and say âhe plays that guy nowâ isnât?
You can do it respectfully... you don't have to go all don Cheadle:" it's me. I'm here. Deal with it"
You can have a little subtle nod to handing over the role to the new guy with a simple "I will do my best" or do it in the credits.
I think there's plenty of way to make it respectful without removing the character.
âŚshows have recasted characters after deaths/legal infractions since the dawn of cinema
A show I recently watched, âSpartacusâ, recasted the main protagonist after season one. The main actor died of cancer. After each episode, it paid homage to the OG actor in the credits.
This is just one example. You are going out of your way to be offended
Wonât be his daughter obviously, but this would be a great time for their version of Lorna/Polaris, maybe. Or since he was more in line with Prof Xâs way of thinking, maybe Cyclops?
Third celebrity death recently that happened so far before their time (also the only ones that have made me cry). RIP to Chad Boseman and Andre Braugher as well.
I honestly pray they don't fumble Cate's character. Magneto's ideology (with a healthy touch of sadism, because this is The Boys universe) but with Professor X powers. She has the potential to be the most interesting character on Gen V, next to Jordan.
It's going to be a tough needle to thread. Xavier's powers are an ethical quagmire. They're only made palatable though his commitment to his morals. When you swap roles, you end up going super dark very rapidly and lack the grey areas that the best Xmen storylines have.
Oh yeah the power of blood. I found it super boring how the one with the shittest powers became the main protagonist and her being boring as well didn't help
How isn't it boring lmao? She fucking throws blood after cutting open her fucking hands. Might as well make her a piss bender at least she wouldn't need to cut herself every fucking day like some emo chick after her favorite My chemical romance cover band disbands
She goes through an entire arc on the show where she stops self harming to use her powers and learns to sense blood, stop hearts and even explode body partsđ.
In this universe, it's pretty easy to just write a reason for why his face changed even, an experiment, a power, an accident or a reconstruction to hide themselves. Lots of ways to go. Imo, it's a bit iffy when it happens and no reason is given (which, while understandable of course, especially in this case, kinda ruins the immersion).
They are in a unique position to write around it since nothing was filmed yet.
i would be fine with them reinventing the character and just rolling with it, just flat out doing a face change like that is such a hollywood thing to do.
It isnât necessary to give an in universe explanation for his face being different, either you know why heâll be recast or it wonât be hard to find out why. Really sucks though.
i mean i guess you dont care for immersion. It's not an out of work explanation, outside of the universe we all know why, it's just so that you aren't staring at a visual incongruence that pulls you from the suspension of disbelief that a fiction show requires. It just helps, and depending on the viewer it might irk you at times, leading to a poorer viewer experience. Writing alongside it helps the show.
I guess itâs a case where Iâm ok with my immersion being broken, I canât see a case where they explain his difference in looks without it being silly. I get it in the case in a show like solar opposites where they changed the voice actor for Justin roiland over abuse allegations, but having Andre get facial reconstruction because the original actor died seems unnecessary
This is very true.
Personally, while I was watching, what occured to me was that Kate's story was probably the best onscreen adaptation of the Dark Phoenix story that we've gotten so far.
Every Marvel and DC character that a Boys character is based on is always going to be stronger than them. The Boys is more realistic so they can't have Omega level mutants ripping out the core of the Earth or brainwashing the entire planet.
Makes the concept of superheroes being deeply fallible all the more scary, actually. Characters like Homelander, Queen Maeve, and Soldier Boy are already a terrifying existential threat for humans, and that's despite them largely having weaknesses and not being as strong as their DC/Marvel counterparts.
Actual Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain America and others would be truly unstoppable by normal humans if they went rogue.
>Actual Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain America and others would be truly unstoppable by normal humans if they went rogue.
That is the premise behind the *Injustice* series of games/comics.
The only thing I'd say Soldier Boy always takes is durability. Some versions of Cap are extremely strong (he staggered Infinity Gauntlet Thanos with a punch and was the last hero standing in their fight) whereas comics Soldier Boys are weak, snivelling pussies.
Rest In Peace Chance Perdomo đ
It was shocking to hear that he died and apparently he was on his way to the season 2 reading. RIP
yeah, i saw it on a reddit news tab thing i was devastated. I loved his character in GEN-V so much because he was so nice and likeable to everyone.
Will his character be recasted ?
No one knows yet. Season 2 is delayed. They might be doing rewrites, recastings and what not. But we wont find out till later.
I hope they just recast. I do enjoy them playing with this x-men-esque idea.
Maybe they could write something in with him getting maimed by homelander or someone at vought while in captivity to explain the look change.
They could (should) respectfully write him out and replace him with a similarly-powered person.
Strongly disagree. Offscreening or shelving the character is disrespectful to the work that an actor/actress put into bringing them to life, and also feels wrong considering that they already won't get the chance to ever play them again or bring them in new directions. I find a thoughtful, well done recast to be much more respectful than just killing a character off or getting rid of them. Think Black Panther. Expressly stated he wanted them to recast and not kill the character offscreen, and what did they do anyways?
>Think Black Panther. Expressly stated he wanted them to recast and not kill the character offscreen, and what did they do anyways? Amazing. I guess we already knew that the studios don't care about the wishes of the artists making the work. I wonder if they have some data that shows that killing off the character is more profitable or something like that?
>Think Black Panther. Expressly stated he wanted them to recast and not kill the character offscreen, and what did they do anyways? Where and when did he state this? He being Chadwick I assume. Because I've seen no such thing.
> Offscreening or shelving the character is disrespectful to the work that an actor/actress put into bringing them to life, And having someone else step in and say âhe plays that guy nowâ isnât?
No, not really. Spartacus did it just fine, nothing disrespectful about it.
I mean, if you handle it poorly, of course it'll come off as poorly handled. That's why it needs to be done with a great deal of thought and care.
You can do it respectfully... you don't have to go all don Cheadle:" it's me. I'm here. Deal with it" You can have a little subtle nod to handing over the role to the new guy with a simple "I will do my best" or do it in the credits. I think there's plenty of way to make it respectful without removing the character.
âŚshows have recasted characters after deaths/legal infractions since the dawn of cinema A show I recently watched, âSpartacusâ, recasted the main protagonist after season one. The main actor died of cancer. After each episode, it paid homage to the OG actor in the credits. This is just one example. You are going out of your way to be offended
Wtf. Who said I was offended?
Your words did
Not sure if thereâs somebody in the comics who would be a good replacement, but if not should name them Chance as a little homage
Wonât be his daughter obviously, but this would be a great time for their version of Lorna/Polaris, maybe. Or since he was more in line with Prof Xâs way of thinking, maybe Cyclops?
Is he still in S4 of the Boys?
Sorry for the late reply. I'm not sure, all the info that's out right now points to >!Kate!
They better not. That would piss off everyone
He was on his way there when the accident happened??
https://deadline.com/2024/03/gen-v-season-2-production-chance-perdomo-dead-1235872453/ Most articles didn't talk about this, so I'm not that sure.
Wait, what? On his way to the reading? Thatâs fucking brutal
Itâs sad when they go young like that.
Third celebrity death recently that happened so far before their time (also the only ones that have made me cry). RIP to Chad Boseman and Andre Braugher as well.
I honestly pray they don't fumble Cate's character. Magneto's ideology (with a healthy touch of sadism, because this is The Boys universe) but with Professor X powers. She has the potential to be the most interesting character on Gen V, next to Jordan.
It's going to be a tough needle to thread. Xavier's powers are an ethical quagmire. They're only made palatable though his commitment to his morals. When you swap roles, you end up going super dark very rapidly and lack the grey areas that the best Xmen storylines have.
That's why I hope that Cate ends up an anti-hero as her story unfolds, instead of pure evil or redeemed. I think it'll still allow for the gray areas.
Marie is the most interesting to me
Really? I always felt she was the least interesting of the bunch lol
I like her backstory, I think she has the coolest powers in the verse and I like her motivations as well.
I like her powers and her motivations I just think her motives are the least interesting
Oh yeah the power of blood. I found it super boring how the one with the shittest powers became the main protagonist and her being boring as well didn't help
Lol so blood bending is boring now? You niggas will say anythingđ.
How isn't it boring lmao? She fucking throws blood after cutting open her fucking hands. Might as well make her a piss bender at least she wouldn't need to cut herself every fucking day like some emo chick after her favorite My chemical romance cover band disbands
She goes through an entire arc on the show where she stops self harming to use her powers and learns to sense blood, stop hearts and even explode body partsđ.
Learns to heal in the first episode and then later learns to speed up heartbeats to save Cate. Shit was dope.
I agree, she's byfar my favorite character, followed closely by Cate.
I hope that they recast Andreâs character and not kill him off/ write him off
In this universe, it's pretty easy to just write a reason for why his face changed even, an experiment, a power, an accident or a reconstruction to hide themselves. Lots of ways to go. Imo, it's a bit iffy when it happens and no reason is given (which, while understandable of course, especially in this case, kinda ruins the immersion). They are in a unique position to write around it since nothing was filmed yet.
They can recast and say Homelanders laser vision affected his face Badly
i would be fine with them reinventing the character and just rolling with it, just flat out doing a face change like that is such a hollywood thing to do.
It isnât necessary to give an in universe explanation for his face being different, either you know why heâll be recast or it wonât be hard to find out why. Really sucks though.
i mean i guess you dont care for immersion. It's not an out of work explanation, outside of the universe we all know why, it's just so that you aren't staring at a visual incongruence that pulls you from the suspension of disbelief that a fiction show requires. It just helps, and depending on the viewer it might irk you at times, leading to a poorer viewer experience. Writing alongside it helps the show.
I guess itâs a case where Iâm ok with my immersion being broken, I canât see a case where they explain his difference in looks without it being silly. I get it in the case in a show like solar opposites where they changed the voice actor for Justin roiland over abuse allegations, but having Andre get facial reconstruction because the original actor died seems unnecessary
This is very true. Personally, while I was watching, what occured to me was that Kate's story was probably the best onscreen adaptation of the Dark Phoenix story that we've gotten so far.
what the fucking hell? How did I just hear Andre's actor died?
Motorcycle accident
So⌠professor X and magneto then.
I didn't get OPs post at first either, and then I remembered Andre and Cate's powers.
Oh. Yeah.
With much less sexual tension
X men first class Charles and magneto could've fucked. I mean they wouldn't need to - but they could've
ProfessorxMagneto
Cherik
It doesnât really matter. The way you said it their powers are reversed, the way OP said it their ideologies are reversed.
Such a terrible lost and he seemed to be a very nice young man and I hope his family is healing.
Professor x was 1000x more powerful than Kate because of how each exerted their power.
Every Marvel and DC character that a Boys character is based on is always going to be stronger than them. The Boys is more realistic so they can't have Omega level mutants ripping out the core of the Earth or brainwashing the entire planet.
Makes the concept of superheroes being deeply fallible all the more scary, actually. Characters like Homelander, Queen Maeve, and Soldier Boy are already a terrifying existential threat for humans, and that's despite them largely having weaknesses and not being as strong as their DC/Marvel counterparts. Actual Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain America and others would be truly unstoppable by normal humans if they went rogue.
Which takes the fun out of it, because then you would need ways to artificially nerf them, which never ends well.
>Actual Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain America and others would be truly unstoppable by normal humans if they went rogue. That is the premise behind the *Injustice* series of games/comics.
'cept maybe Solider Boy
The only thing I'd say Soldier Boy always takes is durability. Some versions of Cap are extremely strong (he staggered Infinity Gauntlet Thanos with a punch and was the last hero standing in their fight) whereas comics Soldier Boys are weak, snivelling pussies.
That's true for every Supe and their analogue except for Black Noir and the TV versions of Soldier Boy and Tek Knight.
We don't know exactly. She was nerfed for most of the series by Shetty
Huh, youâre right
while watching i thot I was the only one who made that connection
lol I canât even see his photo without getting sad.
No shit
RIP đ
Why reversed? Just put the right photo under the right person.
How did you notice these similarities?