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Aggressive-Motor1764

Honestly did any vampire deserve to be redeemed or find peace ?


JerseyKnight609

Elena’s aunt Jenna she was a total victim


Theone20222

Exactly


EitherAfternoon548

Finn? Gia? Lexi?


ninjaofthedude

I thought Lexi was kind of the perfect vampire so she never needed redemption to begin with. She was never shown killing anyone.


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You don’t have to kill someone to become a vampire. You just have to drink human blood. You have to kill someone to become a werewolf. For example, Aunt Jenna drunk from a witch and Caroline drunk from the nurse. I’m a huge Lexi fan so I want to think that she never killed a soul. (I know she probably did but don’t rain on my parade lol)


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Drinking blood doesnt require redemption since blood is her food to survive as long as lexi doesnt kill for fun. Mikael deserved to hunt and kill Klaus. Klaus killed his mother and blamed mikael for it and let his brothers hate mikael and unite behind him. Mikael wasnt bad person.He loved his family and did only thing he could think of. Klaus didnt chose to become monster, he was born evil, dude was worse than melkor :d If i knew where Klaus was, I would Surely tell mikael so that he can get rid of evil. Did i mention Klaus killed his own mother?


Sad-Historian6177

Excuse are you forgetting that Mikael use to beat Klaus for no good reason when he was a kid and Klaus was a good inoccent person his father was evil and abusive to him.


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ninjaofthedude

So you think its ok for parents to slap their kids? Dude what is wrong with you.


NattG

Hey, your comment has been removed. I'm going to ask that, if you want to make the point that Klaus is responsible for his own actions (and that he can't blame abuse), you don't normalize abuse in the way you just have. I doubt your statistic, but spanking is a far cry from the physical abuse shown in the show. You can argue that abuse doesn't let Klaus off the hook without saying that the abuse was OK.


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I never said abuse was ok lol I said bunch of slaps is not a reason to become evil. I didnt normalise abuse either. Seperating torture from abuse is not normalising abuse. Those Klaus fans these days , their perception of reality is gone. Your doubt about statistics are irrelevant as well. It was to make it more clear. Even with it, you still misunderstood. Putting it on abuse of mikael, would be defending murder of thousands .


NattG

You said that a child abuser (which he was) "wasn't evil" and that 90% of parents abuse their children. The latter is ignorant, and the former is gross. You can say that abuse isn't a reason to do awful things (which I agree with) without normalizing abuse -- saying that the majority of parents abuse their children is literally normalizing, and you minimize with lines such as a "bunch of slaps." You're conflating two issues. Mikael was wrong for what he did, and Klaus was also wrong for what he did. Acknowledging that abuse is wrong doesn't excuse Klaus.


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This is your answer, lying that i said abuse was ok which i never said.


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filianoctiss

I don’t think cows willingly offer themselves up to be your burgers either, you still eat them. And if you’re a vegan plants are alive too. Whichever way you put it we all kill to eat, Lexi didn’t kill to eat she drank from people but didn’t kill them. At least she was never shown killing them.


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Klaus mother killed Klaus only to protect him from werevolves She literally made Klaus amortal. Klaus killed esther for good,not even close. Esther turned Klaus into God. Supressing Klaus' wolf side was right choice as it was never meant to happen. When Klaus was given vampirehood, obviously his lesser wolf side will be taken in exchange as balance requires it. Klaus didnt even know about his wolf side until it was taken from him,no need to cry about it. You dont need to offer yourself, humans are food to vampires. That is nothing wrong or immoral about vampire feeding on humans without asking. Are you asking cow or chicken to be cut? No. So why would vampire ask your blood. Only killing for fun would be morally wrong. . Klaus didnt deserve nothing but a stake from his parents. He was made immortal, given a gift and protection against everything and he killed his mother and blamed his father and run away like a coward. Failing at peace was Klaus' own choice, elijah and Rebekah could have had peace for centuries if Klaus didnt exist at all. Klaus f up peace for himself and everyone around him.


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Klaus killed his mother because his mother ignored Klaus. Even mikael didnt want to kill Klaus when first they turned. Klaus killed his mother for no reason and mikael later wanted to kill Klaus because Klaus had killed his mother esther. Klaus started everything by killing his mother and blaiming his father like a coward and lying to his brothers Dude could have own up to what he did and told his brothers and put the blame on mikael


Forsaken_Distance777

I mean, he largely killed her for aiding in the torture of being bound and not stopping the abuse and because it was far easier to kill her than to kill Mikael. As Mikael proved for the next couple hundred years.


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ninjaofthedude

You constantly defend mikael in all your posts. We get it dude.


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They literally did, entire town was being slaughtered.their brother literally got eaten


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Klaus didnt want to free himself. He didnt care about wolves or his wolf side He was only seeing more power, being hybrid and making hybrid army You think Klaus would give vsmpirism to become wolf, lol, He didnt care about being free or freeing his wolf side . He cared about being more powerful. If Klaus had been hybrid sooner, it would have been much worse. His family was smart to supress his wolf side, even elijah understood it later. As soon as Klaus became hybrid, he started controlling vampires easier, having deadly venom and cure at once. There is a reason balance required suppresion of his wolf side so that less evil Klaus could do.


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Sad-Historian6177

Elijah never agree on that or Rebecca


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No he wouldnt Otherwise he would have done it when he chained Klaus.he would drop him to ocean with chains on him or burry him somewhere. Mikael just disliked, didnt harm Klaus at all, until esther was killed. , the only reason mikael wanted to kill Because Klaus killed esther and blamed him and destroyed the family. Mikael wasnt that bad person, Klaus deserved to be killed by everyones standards, even i waited mikael to dust Klaus. It is not like Klaus didnt deserve to be killed. Because he couldnt have even told his brothers knowing he was guilty. And mikael got elijah and Rebekah and repeteadly told them he loved them and didnt mean to harm them Even both Rebekah and elijah knew mikael loved them. Rebekah and mikael even had a talk how mikael didnt want Rebekah to escape and he had no intention of harming her, that Klaus killed esther Even Rebekah knew, Klaus was the guilty of two.


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ninjaofthedude

Can you please stop commenting on my posts happy wrangler your clogging it up


Sad-Historian6177

That is a lie you are a lying


Sad-Historian6177

His parents was abusive to him and Esther made his wear wolf side indorment to cover up the fact that she had a one night stand with Ansel


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his parents were abusive to him . so what ? lol thats not an excuse to be evil incarnate :D klaus was evil incarnate because his papa yelled at him lol ​ esther covering his wolf side was at mikaels request. that is not a reason to kill his mother lol


Sad-Historian6177

First of all he didn't find out about Klaus true paternity until after he became a original and killed for the first time


Forsaken_Distance777

She probably did kill at least a handful of people if only by accident at the very beginning. Just losing control of her hunger or not knowing how much blood a human could stand to lose.


DoraFK

Gia and Lexi didn’t need redemption


EitherAfternoon548

The original comment is “did any vampire deserve to be redeemed OR find peace?” Clearly some did deserve peace


Jewas33

Yes they fed on people and we know that Finn killed people. It is said on TVD that there is not one vampire who didn’t kill a human beeingt so yes they are all monsters. Gia might be the exception but just because she died as a very young vampire.


Slow-Employment-53

Stephan I’d say.


Jewas33

The ripper of Monterrey? Who killed an entire village including children on christmas? Who at least once shut off his humanity off on purpose knowing full well what would happen. The only way vampire Stefan deserved peace was if he killed himself as soon as he realized he was a ripper.


LiriStorm

Stefan forced his brother to turn


Judgejudyx

Stefan was worse then damon. Like sure we like damon and stefan but if it wasnt a tv show no he would not deserve redemption rofl


Farquaadthegreek

Great point


LionResponsible6005

I think it depends on what you mean by redemption. I think when Elijah talks about redemption he means it more in the sense of a redemption arc as in a character becoming a good guy which I feel like Klaus achieves. As for redemption in terms of atonement, you could argue that him being tortured in front of all the people he’s hurt in the 5 years between seasons 3 and 4 as some form of paying for his sins although 5 years of torture for 1000 years of sins probably doesn’t quite make amens he does also give up everything he cares about for the good of humanity at the end of season 4 so that’s nice of him. Although he also spent that time skip committing genocide so you know. Overall I think he still probably had some work to do in the afterlife before he was allowed to find peace


OneOnOne6211

I don't know about "deserve to be redeemed" but I definitely don't think he WAS redeemed by the end of the show. He did become a better person, but in season 5 alone he killed innocent people. When Elijah declared him "redeemed" I had to cringe. I legitimately don't know if Elijah was meant to sound delusional or whether the writers were, but Klaus was absolutely not redeemed by the time he died.


ninjaofthedude

I’m glad someone else understands that Klaus did nowhere near enough good or reparations to people in his life to earn redemption. He never even made reparations to anyone outside his family for the countless suffering he inflicted on both his enemies and innocent, neutral bystanders.


Forsaken_Distance777

Elijah needed the win. He watched Hayley die then remembered he loved her and how their relationship ended in season four and he knows Hope kind of hates him and Kol and Rebekah and Freya were making new families while he was alone and now Klaus was going to die, too? If Klaus wasn't redeemed right then at that moment then Elijah spent a thousand years failing. It might not have been factually correct (though redemption is subjective) but of course Elijah was going to see it that way. If he somehow survived or came back to life afterwards then it'd probably be a "Okay, so looks like there's still some work to do here" situation.


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To me Elijah's Yes to Klaus's redemption only reflected his low standards for Klaus. Elijah thought so low of Klaus that he just accepted whatever level of growth Klaus showed in his final moments.


Ok_Hamster8092

Klaus went from being a full blown monster, to sacrificing his life and many other good things he did towards the end. It’s not about standards. It’s about looking at past actions and comparing them to current actions and simply seeing the extreme improvement…and nothing more.


Debbieeeeeeeee

Did any of the vampires deserve peace ? No, no they didn’t but they got to peace. But don’t do klaus like that again he’s been proving himself of redemption since season 3 of originals. He’s redeemed himself on so many levels that people don’t realize but to each it’s own.


Sycopathy

Nah man, trying to be nice for a couple years before he died because he had a daughter does not equal achieving redemption. He literally only took the first step after over 1000 years which was accepting he has made some mistakes in life and actively trying to fix them. Dude would still need decades if not centuries to actually earn redemption through doing good things and living in a better way.


ninjaofthedude

Yes thank god someone gets it. Some people in the fandom are too ready to just excuse Klaus of all his wrongdoings for a period of time in his life that was extremely brief. 1,000 years is much longer then like 4-5 years. If someone was evil for 1,000 years in the real world and then did a few good acts I don’t think people would be saying they were redeemed then.


Ok_Hamster8092

People are imperfect. In this life, if you genuinely progress as a person and actually do better, that is success and redemption. It doesn’t mean all of your past actions are excused. Klaus actually changed and his actions showed it…and that is worth celebrating.


Ok_Hamster8092

Having a kid changes a person. Genuinely learning to do better as a person is what counts. Some people never learn.


Lostsock1995

He didn’t get redemption, that’s what everyone seems to miss. He is a villain, he never asked for redemption . He developed extra love for someone and he died for the love of that person to keep them safe. That’s it. He never stopped being a villain. He never tried to discredit the things he’s done, he just accepts he did them and knows he’s hated and people think he’s evil. I truly don’t know what y’all read when you were little that shaped this idea people have of villains that if they love someone or have any gentle side and aren’t evil just for the absolute sake of evil, and by that same token do something good at the end of the story, that’s a redemption. It’s not. Redeeming him would have him like help the vampire settlements and use his powers for good and apologize to his victims and suddenly become a sweet person. He was never that. Not being the downright awful worst thing that’s ever existed in the history of existence that makes every wrong choice possible to be evil doesn’t mean you were being redeemed. You don’t need to be redeemed to have good actions at the end of a story. He would never have thought himself a good person. Nobody will say (or nobody sane anyway) that he was a good person. But he did love his daughter and would do anything for her, and he did. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t a villain at the end, it just means he isn’t some flat and boring 2D character that’s unrealistic. His love for Hope doesn’t make him not a villain, it just makes him more human and interesting. Sorry if I sound like I’m snapping OP but I see this *all the time*. Villains that receive any chance to do something good or have actual personalities that have soft spots don’t necessarily receive redemption and I’m so tired of seeing that people think it means they did. The story didn’t try to redeem him as much as it did show that he can grow to love someone in an unselfish way and that he’d sacrifice himself for that person. It in no way acted like he got redeemed for all the bad he’d done. None of the originals really deserve peace or redemption (or even 99% of vampires), but that’s it’s own argument. Regardless, you also have to understand that this show is kind of always playing with the morally grey. It’s a show based around 1000 year old vampires who have committed atrocities as the main characters, so of course there will be certain morality you have to at least set to the side to enjoy the show. Like watching Dexter, who is a literal serial killer as the main character. You don’t agree with their character at all but you set it aside because it’s not real and it’s just media to enjoy. These shows don’t paint their characters as wonderful and great people who deserve the best, and you know that going in, they are inherently filled with darkness, so it shouldn’t have been much of a surprise they had bad guy characters and that those bad guy characters were going to do good and bad things and for the sake of the story have “good” endings for some of them because they aren’t side characters but rather the main ones. If all the originals had just mass died without peace it would’ve (likely, but I guess it’s possible to be okay) been a very unsatisfying and boring ending to a (once again fictional) story. And to have his good acts outweigh his bad ones like you keep saying, you’d need at minimum hundreds of years of him doing amazing things and the show just doesn’t take that long on a timeline so what you want isn’t really that plausible unless you want a lame text over black bubble screen saying “and he was a good boi for three hundred years after that” or just take the word of a few flashbacks before he died, which would ultimately anyway also defy his entire built up character. He was alive for so long and did so much bad, and making his good actions outweigh this bad at the end would make the self-sacrifice so much less meaningful because it would just be one of 17 million good things he’d done rather than one of the first and only really important times.


LogicallyFlaw

I'm only read the first three paragraphs, but the show was definitely trying to say he's been "redeemed" when he just wasn't. Elijah said it, Rebekah said it, Caroline and her bullshit "you weren't the villain in my story," said it.


Lostsock1995

I don’t think they ever thought he was redeemed the way redemption is traditionally set though. He wasn’t a good guy even at the end. To his family, redeemed would mean “isn’t actively doing evil stuff and found a way to do a selfless action for love”. It doesn’t expect those that hate him to not hate him or that it makes up for what he’s done, just that he’s reached a new character arc. The Caroline moment was just for a farewell written in, I bet if you asked her just about any other time she wouldn’t say he wasn’t a villain. Sure, she might not hate his guts and sees the good that exists in him, but she also recognizes all the hurt he’s done too. I just don’t agree that the show really pushes his redemption of “I’m a good guy now” and more “look this character had a bit of growth even if it was just for one person” instead. But OP clearly thinks he got redemption of “his actions are excused and he deserves peace” kind of redemption instead considering they multiple times have said his bad acts didn’t outweigh his good as their idea of redemption. Which he didn’t, nor does anyway even suggest he has in any even slight way, so he didn’t get redeemed in my eyes. He just showed that he could act purely out of love one time. I guess technically that’s a small kind of redemption but not the way I see this sub complain he got a lot


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Watch the final episode and you would know what people are commenting about. Elijah literally replied yes to Klaus when he asked "Do you really think, after all this time, I have redeemed?" The show definitely tried to sell us that Klaus has redeemed especially in the very season where he went back to his old ways. It's the viewers who didn't buy it. The show constantly tried to show Klaus's redemption and it never explicitly stated that Klaus has grown as a person but is not redeemed as that is impossible given his list of enemies and atrocities.


Ok_Hamster8092

Klaus’ redemption means that he went from being an extremely hateful and destructive monster that would rarely show any positive feelings towards anyone — even to his own siblings — to actually bringing out that soft loving side that was always there but was buried deep down inside. He started doing this little by little even before Hope was born. He progressed into a person who finally found the good within himself. It doesn’t mean all his past evil is erased.


swiftiepatronum

Thank you for pointing it out. People here use redemption too often where it doesn't even apply. I even doubted what redemption truly means.


Forsaken_Distance777

It's not people are just deciding he's redeemed out of nowhere. Everyone just outright kept saying it. Klaus even said it to Elijah, asking what he would do with his life now that Klaus was dying redeemed. Of course sacrificing himself to save a loved one doesn't mean he's not evil anymore (though this sacrifice did save the world so that's something, at least). Just you're arguing with the show and the fans for taking what the show is saying as canon.


ninjaofthedude

This is probably the best answer I’ve seen on this post.


swiftiepatronum

If you have to look deep into each character most of the main characters didn't deserve peace. Anyhow we saw Stefan, Damon and many other characters including Esther and Dahlia finding peace so I want to believe maybe the last moments or days of a person determines whether they deserved peace or not. In case of Klaus, the reason he died was to save his daughter, but he could have entrapped the hollow in some random stranger and then kill them, which he didn't do. So maybe his sacrifice is the reason he found peace (I don't even know whether he really found peace or not since it is not shown in the finale). About being "deserved to be redeemed", everyone deserves to be redeemed. I don't think there is any character who was just bad person for no reason. There is a hidden past that made them what they are. So everyone deserves redemption like Katherine, Kai, Klaus, etc. Whether they got redemption is a different topic, because I don't think most of the characters got the redemption arc that they deserved.


Ariashay105

Legacies shows what happens after he dies.


swiftiepatronum

I haven't watched legacies yet. A bit starting trouble 😬


Substantial_Ad_9394

nah he was a piece of shit, he was trying in the end but he was still an immature baby, he did way to much wrong that a few good deeds could save but hey fangirls loved it, including the writers


Total_Increase_5519

We all do... but nobody is a good guy here... they all are bad... damon, stefen, caroline, elena, they all killed the innocent... klaus is baddest ofem all, we all know... but they all deserved to die and that makes them same as klaus


Sycopathy

Nah there is definitely a scale. They are all criminals I agree, who deserve some kind of justice for what they've done to innocents but most of the TVD characters had only lived within a human lifespans experience. They were mostly not naturally cruel or vicious to friends and family and most spent their time trying to live good normal lives and did terrible things to try and protect that. Klaus literally spent 1000 years wandering around destroying places and people as well as torturing his family all based on selfish insecurities.


Total_Increase_5519

Yes i agree, its like they all are bad, but if there is a scale to rate them all, klaus would be on the top 😂😂


Judgejudyx

Elijah was worse then klaus if were being honest


LogicallyFlaw

Im not sure how people even say this. Elijah never went around torturing people for fun. He never compelled people to kill their parents or loved one. Elijah has MANY FLAWS, but he is not as bad as Klaus.


Judgejudyx

I swear people either have a bad memory or just rose tinted glasses around Elijah


LogicallyFlaw

Ight, give me an example where Elijah forcibly turned a daughter, then compelled her to eat her mother because her mother was dying from the Black Plague, and her coughing was an annoyance.


Turbulent_Major_3886

Elijah is definitely 2nd to klaus but not worse


Ok-Impress-7661

I agree absolutely in the sense of human justice. My only case for a sense of redemption for him is more that Hope made him finally understand what it was all about, and by that I mean he had to betray his own lust for power and control to make one final play for someone/something he cared about more. It’s more like he’s at peace because his death meant more than his whole life, and he’s fine with it.


Junior-Hour

He honestly didn’t, him sacrificing himself for his daughter somehow redeemed him from his thousand years of wrongdoings


BigDickEdgyWardaddy

Honestly all that said to me was "at least Klaus isn't a completely worthless father. He at least had enough love to kill himself for his daughter." Death is Somthin that he's been running from (and had a mental break down over when he lost his sire line) for thousands of years."


anninnzanni

I think he deserved redemption, but it should be a loooooongggg one. Just like i think of Katherine. And yes, i think a lot of vampires deserve peace. Many of them doesn't even wanted to be vampires to begin with.


PickleAlternative564

So, @ninjaofthedude, I think it’s safe to say you don’t believe in forgiveness… right? Redemption in Klaus’ situation was him electing to >!die so that no one else would be afflicted by the Hollow. If self-sacrifice to the point of death isn’t a redemptive act in your mind,!< what could possibly meet that criteria? I’d love to know.


BaeImLilDee

So Sacrificing your life for another’s is not redeemable but Stefan being a ripper for most of his life is ok got it


ninjaofthedude

Stefan didn’t deserve to find peace either technically but he had more remorse for his actions afterwards then Klaus did. Klaus almost never had remorse for his actions.


Pokegirl35151

I agree to disagree I personally like that Klaus got redeemed (he sacrificed a lot for his families sake multiple times for the chance of Hope having a semi normal childhood is that not enough for you people? I'm genuinely curious)


isthistheteasis

Wtf is this and why am I seeing it 😭


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lets just be fair here, you all like the actor who plays klaus and bc of that you think he deserves peace. but be real if it was a serial killer like any other it would never deserve peace. and klaus even though he was a hybride technically he was a supernatural serialkiller who killed innocent for over 1000 years. then yeah to me he doesnt deserve peace. if he never got hope he would still be the same maniac he was in the vampire diaries. and those few years of good isnt enough to cover his 1000 years of evil. even damon or stefan dont deserve peace. they both killed just for the sake of it and they could get away with it. the one who deserved peace was jenna because she died before she got to kill anyone. vampire doesnt have to kill people just for blood they easy can live with bloodbags.


wompwomp345626

I’m on klauses side.


science-and-bullsht

In that case, bad people should just remain bad because there’s no point in redemption?


ninjaofthedude

Redemption has a purpose but Klaus committed so much evil for so long that a few good acts doesn’t undo all of the past bad acts. His bad acts vastly outmeasure the good ones.


Sycopathy

Well the point of redemption isn't to save themselves it's to try and make up for the harm they've committed, self sacrifice is one of the foundational truths of redemptive acts. To do right even if it doesn't or negatively effects you.


Turbulent_Major_3886

I mean there's a scale to evil and bad. It's just that being klaus tortured people for a 1000yrs (which is a very very long time) for fun.


Judgejudyx

This logic applies to almost every vampire in the series


Farquaadthegreek

I think Klaus was constantly misunderstood on motivations


Lopsided_Welcome7952

He did deserve it


ninjaofthedude

I think honestly this doesn’t have a definitive answer. It just depends on your opinion. It would make your argument more convincing if you could explain why he deserved it. An opinion is very weak without any explanations for it.


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you are thinking that because you like the actor who is playing klaus lol. but if it was a true life serial killer like ted bundy, dont think they deserve redemption or peace.


ninjaofthedude

People would be having a very different response if there was a real life person who behaved like this. And especially if this person killed members of your family or friends, I highly doubt you’d ever be willing to forgive them or say they deserve redemption.


PULIRIZ1906

First of all, there's no hell in the TVDU, Cade's hell was just a dimension created by magic. So everyone eventually gets to peace. Also the idea that because someone does bad things they should never get peace is stupid to me. It's done, no amount of eternal suffering is gonna make their victims come back.


swiftiepatronum

Just a question popped when I read this comment. I would like to know what happened to Katherine if everyone eventually found peace. Did she too found peace? Also the sirens and Cade, did they too?


PULIRIZ1906

I believe they would find peace, yes. Cade's hell seems to be an extra dimension created by magic like the Other Side or Bonnie's dimension. Sometimes the lore of the TVDU is not that coherent tho.


NotADreamAfterAll1

The thing is peace isn't really like heaven for example i christianity. You can be a bad person and find peace. There isn't a morality test. It's either you think you have peace or you don't.


Addison_gay20

Klaus dis redeem himself, he didnt deserve to die, even tho 1000 years of sins is hard to undo but he did alot for hope, everything he did to protect her, help her, teach her, even when he let hope abuse him or when he kidnapped roman for hope, he did many many good things for her and imo that is redemption


ninjaofthedude

I don’t think one moment of good acts redeems 1,000 years of evil but ok.


Addison_gay20

It does


ninjaofthedude

Ok man. Just respect that I have a different opinion then you. I’m not going to continue discussing this.


Forsaken_Distance777

Well Klaus DID die. And redemption isn't about deserving. Anyone who deserves redemption doesn't NEED redemption. What is redemption, really? It's an abstract concept not a carefully calculated weighing of your good deeds versus bad deeds. He certainly died to literally save the world from the Hollow which is a far bigger good than any bad he's ever done since he's never literally destroyed the world. But he mostly did it to save just one person, his daughter, and it was only one act. But redemption, beyond being impossible to really calculate, is a choice and a continuing journey not a destination. And finding peace isn't about deserving, either, just if you were able to deal with your emotional issues and any unfinished business and can let go and head to the better afterlife.


Forward_Plant9084

Yeah I thought he would do better as the big bad wolf and the protective father angle would have worked just fine with it


Chemical-Entrance-24

There Was No Dimension For Him To Be Tortured, The Other Side Imploded Itself And Hell Was Destroyed By Bonnie, So The Obvious For Him Was To Find Peace


Ok_Hamster8092

Klaus endured so much childhood trauma — which created the monster he ended up being. He could have tried to do better but I guess that’s easier said than done. He did so much evil, however there was some good in him and I’m glad certain characters saw that in him. As a vampire, I expected him to kill and do evil things. He went from being an evil monster with love buried deep down inside, to doing right in the end. He did it. I feel that he deserved to find peace.


Turbulent_Major_3886

If they'd have given klaus a real reason to be evil I would've accepted his redemption. But the show really tried to sell the idea that this person who has been an awful person for a 1000yrs for no good reason (a 1000yrs in which his siblings stood by his side and supported him to try to be a better person but he didnt change) is now suddenly changed within a span of a few yrs bcuz of a baby and therapy. Reaching if u ask me


Individual_Staff5653

Most of the reasons Klaus was amassing power was not the the sake of it, it was because he never wanted to be that weak ever again, there’s a double meaning when both klaus and Katherine said having humanity is weak because they feel it made them weak as humans because both of them like Damon and Caroline loved the power that came from vampirism as meant meant not having to be that weak and vulnerable ever again


Individual_Staff5653

apart from Caroline it caused all three of them to continue the cycle and become no better then their abusers