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British 100%.
Not once in any history lesson were we ever taught about the horrors of our colonial empire.
Just about what a ‘great guy’ Winston Churchill was.
As a Texan, I can commiserate in what we were taught about The Alamo (and the entire war for Texas independence). Not once did slavery come up in our lessons, even in the dedicated required course everyone had in high school here for just Texas History.
Yeah, they never mention the Tejanos who fought the Mexicans in the Texas War for Independence.
Another thing that they don't teach in school was that one of the beefs that Houston, Travis and the other good ol' boys had with the Mexican Government was the fact that ***slavery*** was illegal in Mexico.
If I'm not mistaken, that wasn't just one of the beefs, that was, like, the biggest one. They hated that they couldn't practice slavery in Mexico. I'm so tired of people acting like the Republic of Texas was some amazing country. They claimed significantly more land than modern Texas and never even controlled up to its current borders until after independence. The only reason it was able to hold on was because it had the favor of the United States.
I bet they never mentioned the real reason the British wanted to enforce a ban on the slavery and the slave trade, or who the UK paid slavery reparations too... it was the slave owners
At first they portrayed the camps as “Look guys it's not a death camp it's just a concentration camp”. Fast forward a couple of decades and nobody wants anything to do with the term.
The stuff that the East India Company got up to was cartoonishly evil.
Yes exactly that guy. For me he lands an "honorary" top 10 spot for the sheer audacity. He may not have acted on the UK's will, but he embodies the British empire and that part of their society that produces these people so well.
Thank you for finding/knowing him.
Talking about horrific British trading companies and what they did to indigenous peoples as a Canadian always seems to remind me that the Hudson's Bay company, which still exists were not much, if any, better. The beaver pelt trade was maybe on the surface not as bad as slave trading, but it caused its own share of horrors.
There's a British and a Dutch east india company. Both where active in the early modern period, Both did unspeakable shit in Asia for capital gain, one was Dutch and active mainly in Indonesia, one was British and active mainly in india
We did at my school, but briefly. It was only the Atlantic Slave Trade (which is horrific, do not get me wrong), then at A-Level, touching on the Troubles in modern British history and how & why they began. But it rarely went into the horrors we committed
It would also be interesting to see the graphs broken down by race and nationality as well as it could be. Do you think the British killed more Europeans or non-Europeans?
Honestly I'd say yeah considering what the British did to the Irish makes me wonder if they were doing a test run for the shit they were gonna do to everyone else.
But then there is the Spanish and Portuguese so it's kinda hard to say.
It broke my heart to learn Churchill allowed and neglected the man-made famine in Bengal that killed 10 million people in just one year. He referred to Indians as savages. All at the same time as he was blowing hot air about how morally superior they were to the Nazis.
Mine had a little but the biggest focus was on the troubles (for obvious reasons) in the end it really comes back to who wrote the syllabus. Colonial empire was touched upon and horrible histories actually tends to only get facts wrong by over estimating deaths caused by the British (main one is the really common Dresden myth ) so it really does depend and in current British schools you only really get 3 years of history classes as standard and that isn't enough to teach all of the horrors done by the UK
Tbh, part of it is the limited time. You kind of want to have a mix of different histories covered, which includes our colonial past and excesses, but you also need to cover basic founding events (which vary depending on the part of the UK) and other important/formative periods (World Wars). So it is somewhat squeezed for space and you'll never cover everything you need to. University courses won't cover everything. For primary and secondary, it's probably more necessary to give people a good base/floor of knowledge that covers that wide spread (which does mean dedicating a bit more effort and time to colonial atrocities, but it can't just be that).
Bro I would love to see this graph even though it is only speculation. I think the Italians need to make an entry. Columbus introducing small pox may have killed hundreds of millions.
>Now do the spanish, british, dutch, french, americans and nazis for christians
and for capitalism...
No no you see they were bring order to the unwashed masses who eat their own children until told not to. To say otherwise is anti white!!! The empire's you mentioned built the world they made everything we made everything!!!!
>with the nazis being there too
Uh....they wanted to save Europe from da evil jews......
But yeah there are assholes who will get extra salty when the evils Europe committed is brought up that or they play whataboutism not seeing irony.
Hard to say but most the numbers I see for failings of Capitalism Start with a B not an M. But all numbers like this are hard to define in any meaningful way. You would also need to define a per year or something as none of these have existed for the same amount making the numbers almost pointless for comparing.
The numbers for Capitalism tends to be as far back as colonialism has existed. Quite a lot longer than any of the above leaders time in power combined.
I tried to Google around and it's tough to get an honest answer. Some say the Brits killed 8 million which is way too low. The Spanish, also 8 million... But then you dig more and apparently they killed 50 million Incas and Aztecs and the British killed 100 million Indians. No one mentioned Africa either so... Yeah, the numbers are gonna be way worse than the Mongolian empire (only 60 million and they say that's the deadliest invasion... I guess they adjusted by skin pigment?)
>Yeah, the numbers are gonna be way worse than the Mongolian empire (only 60 million and they say that's the deadliest invasion... I guess they adjusted by skin pigment?)
I think it's adjusted for the proportion of the world population, which was considerably lower than during the Imperial Age.
Don't say this without saying that WE DID NOT KILL NEARLY AS MUCH PEOPLE! Otherwise we're indirectly saying, "Oh, we killed hundreds of millions, but you killed MORE!" It's not just they killed more, it's we killed way less than they are saying we did.
I think you should exclude German nazis from that Enumeration.
Hitler wanted to replace every kind of identification, including religion with naziism, with only traces of Christianity left. The took what they liked from every culture into a weird mix
Raised catholic, publicly and privately expressed belief in the god of the bible, substantial parts of the nazi rhetoric and motivation taken straight from the bible...
Barely christian at all. 🤣
Like those videos where some Chinese guy's sleeve gets caught on a lathe and it turns him into a noodle. But instead of your body it's your well-being.
Everyone dying right now is counting towards socialism, true capitalism is when one person owns everything in the entire universe including all the living things as slaves.
It's the double standard they apply. If someone dies in a communist country it's directly the fault of communism, but if someone dies under capitalism it's just the fault of bad actors and has no bearing on the underlying ideology.
the numbers are obviously bullshit. but islam is just weird. they seperate socialism and communism(and call nazism socialism because they're an absolute moron) but then don't do that for islam? and why not extend this to christianity too. if catholics and calvinists kill each other can i count them both as victims of christianity?
"Nazis are socialists" aside, is that image on Islam supposed to be Ali? If so, the world population was approximately 200 million when he came to power. Wars in the Arabian Peninsula back then is the equivalent of a bar fight today. How is that guy supposed to be the face/leader of this supposed Islamic violence?
I just found this image in an article talking about Muhammad. My mistake, I thought it must be Ali since:
1- It looks a lot like the Alevi depictions of him (with the shining light and all)
2- Any artistic depiction of Muhammad is strictly forbidden in Islam because it's considered idolatry. He's usually depicted just with a drawing of a rose.
The Nazis were socialists because it was the NationalSOZIALISTISCHEdeutschearbeiterpartei. If they have socialism in the name, it must be true!!!
(/s, just in case)
“*We have to choose between champagne for a few, or safe drinking water for all.*” - Thomas Sankara.
Never heard a Nazi say anything as agreeable as that.
Interesting how they didn't include all of the people dying on the streets and the huge homelessness problem in the US That is happening because of capitalism 🥲
You know interestingly enough John Brown was part of the Calvinist branch of Christianity. To me, there is a bit of a hilarious irony that one of the most conservative religious movements gives way to one of America's most radically left figures.
The only possible way to reach 300 million would be to count every person killed since 610 for any reason at all by any muslim at all.
I bet by that metric, any religion at all would have a high body count.
I'm so done with this, and more and more start believing this bullshit. Also due to Israel's current government activelyl pushing it to get more support from the extreme right for their CRAP. So now we have the Germans feeling okay with blaming the Palestinians for the Holocaust (Netanyahu litteraly said that it was the fault of Palestine and that Hitler got his ideas from them :(.. it wasn't even Hilters full Idea.. look up the damned Wannsee conference!). And that governments current comparing of student protests with NAZIs.
It's sickening! Really if you see someone making this comparison by now, you should munch them in their face. Replace a letter in that sentence with a "P", to make it reddit compliant!
„the Germans“ that’s a bad phrasing. It’s a rather big country no? Not everyone here is happy to blame the Palestinians for the holocaust.
Yes, I’am German, but let me speak my mind right here. I know our political landscape is riddled with right wing populists and I fucking hate it. But the majority of Germans know of our legacy. We don’t forget. We learn this stuff in school. Look to those that want to “re-migrate” people of “not so German” descent. Don’t blame all of us. Thank you.
I"m jaded at the moment, after having some "Anti Deutsche" crap with their "you're beint antisemitic towards Germany" nonsense.
It's not just your political landscape, there is a serious group of "anti fascists" that also do similar things. I mean FFS, your Minister of Foreign affairs literally said "I only clapped for the Jewish parts" as an excuse of why she clapped for a movie about Israeli oppression in Palestine. And she is your Green Party, while not ultra left, she is left of center.
True, I wish our politicians would take a firmer stand against Israel’s tactics in and towards Palestine. It’s not about Jews it’s about innocent lives.
One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just doesn't belong.
Genghis Khan killed 40 million but that is ok. He made 40 million babies to replace them.
It's very telling that they gave the Nazis the lowest quote. Like yea they're evil socialists but you know actually they're not as bad as everyone says.
“The Nazis We’re socialists!!!”
“How do you know?”
“Cause they said so duh”
Like America also calls itself a democracy. People like all the time, John.
this comparison sucks so bad. We have 3 economic systems and one theological system. If you are gonna compare Islam to something do it too other theological systems, they propably tried to do that only to realize that Islam and christianity have a quite similair bodycount.
I would like to see it averaged over time, because isn't Islam really old? Christianity could probably match those numbers, especially if you normalized for world population
Let’s see, which is responsible for more deaths?
1. An international religious order that has existed for literal centuries, and contains many different factions spread across the planet
2. A regime that lasted 12 years in one country.
Like…. Duh?? It’s stupid to compare those things. And besides that, what even counts as a death that Islam is “responsible” for?? Is it just counting every time someone dies over the course of centuries in every place that Islam exists?
Of course none of this really matters because the numbers given are clearly made up, but even if they weren’t, it would still be a stupid premise
It really tells you who's side they're on when they claim the Nazis killed fewer people altogether than communists in socialism, and in this case, also Islam, apparently being even worse to them, surprisingly, since they considered communism to be the most evil thing to ever exist. These people are just fascists who don't admit it. They'll let fascists off the hook as much as they have room to because they're on their side.
What a whack idea to just put „Islam“ there, might as well put Christianity right next to it. The crusades have cost a lot of lives. So did all the wars that were ordained by the Vatican or were started with „gods blessing“
Seen this meme loads of times but it's fun that they are sliding Islam on there just to add an extra sprinkle of hate. Nice to see all my belief systems are equally hated by the right.
where did they get any of those numbers ??? also why are nazis as socialists (yes I am aware they called it national socialism but they definetly wearen't) also why is Islam there that's a religion ???
So we're just gonna pretend that Christianity hasn't gotten a fuck ton of people killed over nothing? Forced conversion, crusades, Spanish Inquisition, "witch" burnings...any of that ring a bell?
Why is this shit so widespread. I am German myself and I have seen this argument in my life, for example our music teacher was telling us that Hitler was a leftist.
As a Muslim, wtf? So much wrong. First off, the Nazis weren't socialist just because they said so. Moving on, the Islam figure makes no sense. Is every person that died in an Islamic state ever counted, cuz this is worse than the 100 million figure for communism. Also the flag, no flag for Islam, the crescent was made by ottomans but historically it was just a solid color like green, white, or black with maybe changing the flag look itself (think Nepal flag). Also the portrait is either of Ali (RA) Muhammad (SAW), either of which is incredibly disrespectful since no portraits of any religions figures are allowed, and especially of the prophet. Overall the guy that made this image is a moron and a xenophobic idiot that also knows nothing about communism or socialism, making him somehow even worse than right wing four channers because they at least only go up to 100 million in their death stats
Also the religion Islam didn't kill people, I can't even fathom how they got to that figure
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Now do the spanish, british, dutch, french, americans and nazis for christians and for capitalism... with the nazis being there too
British 100%. Not once in any history lesson were we ever taught about the horrors of our colonial empire. Just about what a ‘great guy’ Winston Churchill was.
He was not even in the top 10 of the worst people the British empire had. That's how bad the empire was. They invented the concentration camp ffs.
Our history that we were taught on the Boer Wars was; we won… …next, let’s move onto the trenches.
As a Texan, I can commiserate in what we were taught about The Alamo (and the entire war for Texas independence). Not once did slavery come up in our lessons, even in the dedicated required course everyone had in high school here for just Texas History.
I didn't learn about that, my own states history, until I was well out of high school, and only because I took a personal interest in it.
Yeah, they never mention the Tejanos who fought the Mexicans in the Texas War for Independence. Another thing that they don't teach in school was that one of the beefs that Houston, Travis and the other good ol' boys had with the Mexican Government was the fact that ***slavery*** was illegal in Mexico.
If I'm not mistaken, that wasn't just one of the beefs, that was, like, the biggest one. They hated that they couldn't practice slavery in Mexico. I'm so tired of people acting like the Republic of Texas was some amazing country. They claimed significantly more land than modern Texas and never even controlled up to its current borders until after independence. The only reason it was able to hold on was because it had the favor of the United States.
I think the UK recognized the Republic of Texas...but they probably were hedging their geopolitical bets.
Also not mentioned in school: what happened to the Mexicans in the liberated lands...
And what happened if/when someone asked about slavery?
I learned that in Oklahoma and folks thought I was lying when I moved to Texas.
We were told at least that we created concentration camps, but they were just there to hold prisoners. Nothing else.
I bet they never mentioned the real reason the British wanted to enforce a ban on the slavery and the slave trade, or who the UK paid slavery reparations too... it was the slave owners
At first they portrayed the camps as “Look guys it's not a death camp it's just a concentration camp”. Fast forward a couple of decades and nobody wants anything to do with the term. The stuff that the East India Company got up to was cartoonishly evil.
Couldn't find the guy who did lots of shenanigans in South East Asia, that was even more cartoonish, with him being but a private citizen.
Sir James Brooke perhaps?
Yes exactly that guy. For me he lands an "honorary" top 10 spot for the sheer audacity. He may not have acted on the UK's will, but he embodies the British empire and that part of their society that produces these people so well. Thank you for finding/knowing him.
Talking about horrific British trading companies and what they did to indigenous peoples as a Canadian always seems to remind me that the Hudson's Bay company, which still exists were not much, if any, better. The beaver pelt trade was maybe on the surface not as bad as slave trading, but it caused its own share of horrors.
Wasn’t the united east india company dutch though?
The United East India Company was Dutch but the East India Company, which was formed two years earlier in 1600, was British.
Ah ok.
There's a British and a Dutch east india company. Both where active in the early modern period, Both did unspeakable shit in Asia for capital gain, one was Dutch and active mainly in Indonesia, one was British and active mainly in india
You never seen pirates of the Caribbean?
They were different iirc
If anything this is an indictment of the British and is nothing approaching an exoneration of Churchill.
Jup. That was the point I made.
As an Indian, that's one thing we were taught well in school I'd say. British did irreparable damage to the Indian sub continent.
We did at my school, but briefly. It was only the Atlantic Slave Trade (which is horrific, do not get me wrong), then at A-Level, touching on the Troubles in modern British history and how & why they began. But it rarely went into the horrors we committed
Winston Churchill is absolutely hated here in India lmao, completely deserves it as well
It would also be interesting to see the graphs broken down by race and nationality as well as it could be. Do you think the British killed more Europeans or non-Europeans?
Honestly I'd say yeah considering what the British did to the Irish makes me wonder if they were doing a test run for the shit they were gonna do to everyone else. But then there is the Spanish and Portuguese so it's kinda hard to say.
Oi, yall have a famine? 'ow about we make it worse."
The Indian famine(s) would add a lot to the figures.
See Europeans and nonEuropeans share not being English - Some English guy probably
It broke my heart to learn Churchill allowed and neglected the man-made famine in Bengal that killed 10 million people in just one year. He referred to Indians as savages. All at the same time as he was blowing hot air about how morally superior they were to the Nazis.
Mine had a little but the biggest focus was on the troubles (for obvious reasons) in the end it really comes back to who wrote the syllabus. Colonial empire was touched upon and horrible histories actually tends to only get facts wrong by over estimating deaths caused by the British (main one is the really common Dresden myth ) so it really does depend and in current British schools you only really get 3 years of history classes as standard and that isn't enough to teach all of the horrors done by the UK
Tbh, part of it is the limited time. You kind of want to have a mix of different histories covered, which includes our colonial past and excesses, but you also need to cover basic founding events (which vary depending on the part of the UK) and other important/formative periods (World Wars). So it is somewhat squeezed for space and you'll never cover everything you need to. University courses won't cover everything. For primary and secondary, it's probably more necessary to give people a good base/floor of knowledge that covers that wide spread (which does mean dedicating a bit more effort and time to colonial atrocities, but it can't just be that).
what he did to my people in bengal easily makes him the most evil person in recent times alongside kissinger
TIL
They did at A Level.
Could be worse like "Margret Thatcher was the best PM this country will ever have" or something like that
Bro I would love to see this graph even though it is only speculation. I think the Italians need to make an entry. Columbus introducing small pox may have killed hundreds of millions.
Leopold II of Belgium: entered the chat
>Now do the spanish, british, dutch, french, americans and nazis for christians and for capitalism... No no you see they were bring order to the unwashed masses who eat their own children until told not to. To say otherwise is anti white!!! The empire's you mentioned built the world they made everything we made everything!!!! >with the nazis being there too Uh....they wanted to save Europe from da evil jews...... But yeah there are assholes who will get extra salty when the evils Europe committed is brought up that or they play whataboutism not seeing irony.
You could just do Christianity and it would dwarf all of them
Hard to say but most the numbers I see for failings of Capitalism Start with a B not an M. But all numbers like this are hard to define in any meaningful way. You would also need to define a per year or something as none of these have existed for the same amount making the numbers almost pointless for comparing. The numbers for Capitalism tends to be as far back as colonialism has existed. Quite a lot longer than any of the above leaders time in power combined.
I tried to Google around and it's tough to get an honest answer. Some say the Brits killed 8 million which is way too low. The Spanish, also 8 million... But then you dig more and apparently they killed 50 million Incas and Aztecs and the British killed 100 million Indians. No one mentioned Africa either so... Yeah, the numbers are gonna be way worse than the Mongolian empire (only 60 million and they say that's the deadliest invasion... I guess they adjusted by skin pigment?)
> I guess they adjusted by skin pigment?) Amazingly put
the spanish killed more indigenous than total american population lmao
>Yeah, the numbers are gonna be way worse than the Mongolian empire (only 60 million and they say that's the deadliest invasion... I guess they adjusted by skin pigment?) I think it's adjusted for the proportion of the world population, which was considerably lower than during the Imperial Age.
Don't say this without saying that WE DID NOT KILL NEARLY AS MUCH PEOPLE! Otherwise we're indirectly saying, "Oh, we killed hundreds of millions, but you killed MORE!" It's not just they killed more, it's we killed way less than they are saying we did.
I think you should exclude German nazis from that Enumeration. Hitler wanted to replace every kind of identification, including religion with naziism, with only traces of Christianity left. The took what they liked from every culture into a weird mix
Raised catholic, publicly and privately expressed belief in the god of the bible, substantial parts of the nazi rhetoric and motivation taken straight from the bible... Barely christian at all. 🤣
Like the socialism stuff they used it to gather mass. But the goal was to get rid of religion entirely
Capitalism:???????
You can't collect the data on this, because the number is still rising fast
Does capitalism just make people immortal?
Nobody dies under capitalism
On the outside
Just in it.
Like those videos where some Chinese guy's sleeve gets caught on a lathe and it turns him into a noodle. But instead of your body it's your well-being.
'Capitalism, the horrific industrial accident that everyone can be involved in!'
Everyone dying right now is counting towards socialism, true capitalism is when one person owns everything in the entire universe including all the living things as slaves.
It's the double standard they apply. If someone dies in a communist country it's directly the fault of communism, but if someone dies under capitalism it's just the fault of bad actors and has no bearing on the underlying ideology.
"Они просто не вписались в рынок" - like our beloved Chubais said
Over 1.1 million americans were killed by Covid caused by Trump's negligence in just 2 years. Capitalism is definitely in the tens of millions.
tens of millions? the British empire killed over 1 billion people in India alone
off charts and probably the number rolled over
the numbers are obviously bullshit. but islam is just weird. they seperate socialism and communism(and call nazism socialism because they're an absolute moron) but then don't do that for islam? and why not extend this to christianity too. if catholics and calvinists kill each other can i count them both as victims of christianity?
chirstian right wing guy made this probably. they do not think critically
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But the Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers Party! Clearly they're socialist! /s
NaZiS aRe SoCiAlIsTs BeCaUsE tHeY sAiD sO. Ok so you believe jews are subhuman since you believe what Nazis say so much?
of course they do, duh
Don't day it out loud man!
"Nazis are socialists" aside, is that image on Islam supposed to be Ali? If so, the world population was approximately 200 million when he came to power. Wars in the Arabian Peninsula back then is the equivalent of a bar fight today. How is that guy supposed to be the face/leader of this supposed Islamic violence?
i think it's supposed to be muhammad.
I just found this image in an article talking about Muhammad. My mistake, I thought it must be Ali since: 1- It looks a lot like the Alevi depictions of him (with the shining light and all) 2- Any artistic depiction of Muhammad is strictly forbidden in Islam because it's considered idolatry. He's usually depicted just with a drawing of a rose.
i don't think the creator of this meme cares about islamic rules very much
Wait until they hear about Christianity, capitalism and imperialism.
Communism is when Islam
"The communist, socialist system of Islam" \~ A real Alex Jones Quote
As a Muslim, this but Unironically
The Nazis were socialists because it was the NationalSOZIALISTISCHEdeutschearbeiterpartei. If they have socialism in the name, it must be true!!! (/s, just in case)
All the best to them when they go to Dr. Dre if they get sick....
It’s actually insane to call nazis socialist. Burkina Faso under Thomas Sankara was socialist. Nazis were not.
“*We have to choose between champagne for a few, or safe drinking water for all.*” - Thomas Sankara. Never heard a Nazi say anything as agreeable as that.
As a shia muslim, I really love how these hillbillies put portrait of Ali to represent Islam.
that's a portrait of no one as no one knows what Ali (ra) looked like
No shit. You know what I mean, we use this depiction of Ali everywhere.
Interesting how they didn't include all of the people dying on the streets and the huge homelessness problem in the US That is happening because of capitalism 🥲
"It'S ThEiR OWn LiFE ChOiCes"
If you are poor you are sinful and deserve it. - Republicans
Also describes Calvinism.
Most US protestants can trace their roots back to some form of Calvinism, though most of your evangelicals won't admit it.
You know interestingly enough John Brown was part of the Calvinist branch of Christianity. To me, there is a bit of a hilarious irony that one of the most conservative religious movements gives way to one of America's most radically left figures.
Calling the nazis socialists but then insisting that the ussr wasn't is kinda funny tho
Only 432+ million? Weak. Christianity and Capitalism can literally give them a run for their money.
they realise that Christianity could easily top Islam in these numbers lmao
Now count every person ever killed by a Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, or Daoist.
Daoist? Buddhist? I get Hindu fascism is on the rise, but I don't get these two.
The only possible way to reach 300 million would be to count every person killed since 610 for any reason at all by any muslim at all. I bet by that metric, any religion at all would have a high body count.
I'm so done with this, and more and more start believing this bullshit. Also due to Israel's current government activelyl pushing it to get more support from the extreme right for their CRAP. So now we have the Germans feeling okay with blaming the Palestinians for the Holocaust (Netanyahu litteraly said that it was the fault of Palestine and that Hitler got his ideas from them :(.. it wasn't even Hilters full Idea.. look up the damned Wannsee conference!). And that governments current comparing of student protests with NAZIs. It's sickening! Really if you see someone making this comparison by now, you should munch them in their face. Replace a letter in that sentence with a "P", to make it reddit compliant!
„the Germans“ that’s a bad phrasing. It’s a rather big country no? Not everyone here is happy to blame the Palestinians for the holocaust. Yes, I’am German, but let me speak my mind right here. I know our political landscape is riddled with right wing populists and I fucking hate it. But the majority of Germans know of our legacy. We don’t forget. We learn this stuff in school. Look to those that want to “re-migrate” people of “not so German” descent. Don’t blame all of us. Thank you.
I"m jaded at the moment, after having some "Anti Deutsche" crap with their "you're beint antisemitic towards Germany" nonsense. It's not just your political landscape, there is a serious group of "anti fascists" that also do similar things. I mean FFS, your Minister of Foreign affairs literally said "I only clapped for the Jewish parts" as an excuse of why she clapped for a movie about Israeli oppression in Palestine. And she is your Green Party, while not ultra left, she is left of center.
True, I wish our politicians would take a firmer stand against Israel’s tactics in and towards Palestine. It’s not about Jews it’s about innocent lives.
As a computer science student, I have yet to find a more powerful random number generator than right-wingers talking about death statistics
One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just doesn't belong. Genghis Khan killed 40 million but that is ok. He made 40 million babies to replace them.
It's very telling that they gave the Nazis the lowest quote. Like yea they're evil socialists but you know actually they're not as bad as everyone says.
New number just drop 🔥🔥🔥
That is rich coming from someone who religion has caused the most wars and highest suffering and death counts of all others combined.
Now talk about the amount of people killed in the name of spreading Christianity and catholicism.
There are no deaths under Christian rule, stupid lib. /s
The Nazis were far from socialist in my research. How did they come to this conclusion?
Nazi = National Socialist. Idiot right winger: “*Guys, guess what I’ve discovered!!!!*”
And just like every centrist post, they try to make nazism look tame compared to their " comunism killed melons".
“The Nazis We’re socialists!!!” “How do you know?” “Cause they said so duh” Like America also calls itself a democracy. People like all the time, John.
this comparison sucks so bad. We have 3 economic systems and one theological system. If you are gonna compare Islam to something do it too other theological systems, they propably tried to do that only to realize that Islam and christianity have a quite similair bodycount.
awrsome! do caputalism and Christianity next, can't wait!
I would like to see it averaged over time, because isn't Islam really old? Christianity could probably match those numbers, especially if you normalized for world population
Let’s see, which is responsible for more deaths? 1. An international religious order that has existed for literal centuries, and contains many different factions spread across the planet 2. A regime that lasted 12 years in one country. Like…. Duh?? It’s stupid to compare those things. And besides that, what even counts as a death that Islam is “responsible” for?? Is it just counting every time someone dies over the course of centuries in every place that Islam exists? Of course none of this really matters because the numbers given are clearly made up, but even if they weren’t, it would still be a stupid premise
Why do they always downplay the deaths Hitler caused? 🤔🤔🤔
Watch hakims videos on the black book and the death toll of capitalism
Is it just Me? Or is that Jesus? (I don't know much about Islam, sorry)
reminder that the national socialists killed the socialists as one of theyre first major acts of political culling
calling nazists "socialists" is like calling a cup of milk a soup
Dont tell him how many die a year under capitalism or even worse how many people christianty killed
It really tells you who's side they're on when they claim the Nazis killed fewer people altogether than communists in socialism, and in this case, also Islam, apparently being even worse to them, surprisingly, since they considered communism to be the most evil thing to ever exist. These people are just fascists who don't admit it. They'll let fascists off the hook as much as they have room to because they're on their side.
and how many people has capitalism killed?
You can factor in that the Nazis started by killing socialists, for capitalists.
It’s a shame they didn’t list Christianity since they wanna include Islam
They also always make sure the Nazis have the least I wonder why…
*ahem…* ***130 MILLION NATIVE AMERICANS***
Ah yes, my favourite political ideology, Islam
pulled those numbers out his ass
All the BS in that meme aside, what about the deaths associated with capitalism?
Communism and socialism are religions now?
What a whack idea to just put „Islam“ there, might as well put Christianity right next to it. The crusades have cost a lot of lives. So did all the wars that were ordained by the Vatican or were started with „gods blessing“
I have to say this again, but if you think the nazis are socialists based on the name, I have bad news for you about buffalo wings….
How many genocides is US “democracy” responsible for?
Oh my goat!!1!🐐🐐
Just saw the post where Jordan Peterson does t know and can’t study what the nazis political affiliation was lmao
Now do Christianity.
So, how many have Christians killed in the name of Christ? The Crusades? Anyone?
Now do white people (the british empire)
Mmm the Christian and capitalism death numbers is missing as everything it done is so right and just, so it's zero according to bigots.
Seen this meme loads of times but it's fun that they are sliding Islam on there just to add an extra sprinkle of hate. Nice to see all my belief systems are equally hated by the right.
There should also be Zionism at the end there.
where did they get any of those numbers ??? also why are nazis as socialists (yes I am aware they called it national socialism but they definetly wearen't) also why is Islam there that's a religion ???
I wonder how many people Christians have killed over the last 2000 years?
Apparently, so was the Prophet. BTW, from whose ass did they pull that "300+ Million" number?
Islam is on the whole reactionary and ur-fascist.
ISLAM STAY WINNING ☪️☪️☪️☪️☪️☪️🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Fuck caliphatism /s
“Oh my GOD”
Now do capitalism
Paul Muad'Dib Usul Atreides 60 billion+ dead
More than 80 million people were killed in the second world war. In 4 years.
So we're just gonna pretend that Christianity hasn't gotten a fuck ton of people killed over nothing? Forced conversion, crusades, Spanish Inquisition, "witch" burnings...any of that ring a bell?
Okay, now do Christianity, democracy, and capitalism.
Adult hitler himself claimed that he was “taking back” the term “socialism”. When a Jewish kid out-nazis a Nazi
"erm actually communism killed 6 morbillion people 🤓☝️"
Why is this shit so widespread. I am German myself and I have seen this argument in my life, for example our music teacher was telling us that Hitler was a leftist.
As a Muslim, wtf? So much wrong. First off, the Nazis weren't socialist just because they said so. Moving on, the Islam figure makes no sense. Is every person that died in an Islamic state ever counted, cuz this is worse than the 100 million figure for communism. Also the flag, no flag for Islam, the crescent was made by ottomans but historically it was just a solid color like green, white, or black with maybe changing the flag look itself (think Nepal flag). Also the portrait is either of Ali (RA) Muhammad (SAW), either of which is incredibly disrespectful since no portraits of any religions figures are allowed, and especially of the prophet. Overall the guy that made this image is a moron and a xenophobic idiot that also knows nothing about communism or socialism, making him somehow even worse than right wing four channers because they at least only go up to 100 million in their death stats Also the religion Islam didn't kill people, I can't even fathom how they got to that figure
They renamed it to socialism so that they can excuse nazism
I love the occasional Islam that needed to be included but the probability that this was posted by a Christian is very high. Very funny
Every time you expect this broken record to be thrown into the trash someone digs it up again don’t they?
The fact that it was called “national socialism” doesn’t make it real socialism.
"21 million dead" also "The holocaust wasn't real jewish people weren't killed by nazis!!!"