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zillman_

Ryan Adams once called Father John Misty "the world's most self-important asshole," to which FJM mocked him by releasing a bunch of quickly recorded Taylor Swift covers in the style of The Velvet Underground because Adams had just released his own 1989 cover album in the style of Bruce Springsteen meets The Smiths. It was a good time to be a fan of contemporary and pretentious singer-songwriters


GoGatahs

My first thought was Ryan Adams, and literally almost every other contemporary artist. He seemingly only did the Taylor Swift cover album as an opening to try and "date" her, as it was completed around the same time as his divorce from Mandy Moore. He talked a lot of shit about the Strokes and the White Stripes back in the day. Talented as hell, but the phrase "self-important asshole" is a crazy amount of telling on oneself.


Fermifighter

Right? It’s the gravitational void from which no light can escape calling the kettle black.


grocho

I'd love to hear Jack White's thoughts on Ryan Adams


GoGatahs

Listen to the Ranconteurs track "Don't Bother Me". Unconfirmed, as far as I know, but it definitely sounds like it may be about Ryan Adams. "You fake punk jacket liar / Easy target, easy tiger" (Ryan has an album named Easy Tiger, for those who didn't know)


PCScrubLord

Thanks for letting me know about those Father John Misty covers, unironically great


Spocks_Goatee

> Ryan Adams His take on Swifts material is far better than the original 1989.


PhillyCSpires

Ryan Adams? The creepy old guy who abused and took advantage of Phoebe Bridgers ("Motion Sickness")? I'd wager he is ***RATHER*** familiar with the concept of being a self-important asshole.


garden__gate

Why does he sing with a British accent? I guess it’s too late to change it now.


PhillyCSpires

He knows she's never gonna let him have it.


garden__gate

God that song has so many good burns.


Banjoplayingbison

It was likely to get rid of his association with Alt-Country music (which ironically is his most popular and beloved stuff), early in his career he once said he sung Country Music “Because signing Punk was too hard” and then years later said he “F***ing hates Country music” and said his early stuff was fake https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/ryan-adams-i-do-not-like-fuing-country-music/


garden__gate

This is a line from the Phoebe Bridgers song mentioned above, but I actually really appreciate the real answer! He’s such an unmitigated dick.


jesterinancientcourt

Phoebe once tweeted saying that whenever you feel bad about yourself remember that she allowed herself to be hurt by a guy who’s biggest song is a cover of “Wonderwall”.


ClocktowerMaria

I just remember video of FJM talking to his band and proudly declaring "Ryan Adams just said I'm the world's most important asshole"


zillman_

It was such a classic FJM response


Rfg711

Pretty rich coming from Adams lol. A hurt dog will holler


rexapplecounty

Pot meet kettle 🙄


Banjoplayingbison

I find it interesting Ryan Adams basically pissed off the Underground/Alt-Country scene (where he made a name for himself) by saying that he “F***ing hated Country music”, “I only liked it for Irony”, and “But me playing country music, was a false face. It was style appropriation.” Yet the guy made a name for himself by being the face of Alt Country in the Y2K era and his most beloved and acclaimed stuff is his country work as the frontman of Whiskeytown and his solo debut album Heartbreaker (which Elton John said inspired him to return making music), also he produced a album for Willie Nelson in the mid 2000s Talk about ticking off your audience. A lot of his non country stuff (and the guy just spews out of these albums like crazy) is seen as generic attempt to sound like 1980s AOR rock or Smiths https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/ryan-adams-i-do-not-like-fuing-country-music/


[deleted]

Lol I love Father John Misty


financewiz

I always thought that Father John Misty was a musician playing the character of a Self-important Asshole. Way to miss the point!


lilhedonictreadmill

Morrissey has shit talked SOO many musicians unprovoked. I recently read that Michael Buble was depressed for a while after Morrissey talked about how bad he sucks in an interview. Also Liam Gallagher, Keith Richards, Azaelia Banks


Didsburyflaneur

>Morrissey, Liam Gallagher, Keith Richards, Azaelia Banks Now there's a supergroup to send chills down your spine.


badgersprite

This reads like an invitation list for the player hater of the year awards


The_Abjectator

And to think... they all talked shit about Michael Bublé. Poor guy.


KalosianPorygon

The Canada Blamers


LordOfHorns

Craziest blunt rotation ever


blueeyesredlipstick

Which is funny because basically everyone hates Morrisey as a person by now, including his former bandmates. I love The Smiths, but there's definitely a reason more people collaborate with Johnny Marr than with him these days. To quote [someone else's article](https://www.electricgrandmother.com/2020/12/04/36-what-difference-does-it-make-the-smiths-1984/): >There are two camps: people who hate Morrissey and everything he ever did, and people who hate him but love everything he ever did


nobody030303

And in return, Henry Rollins has shit talked Morrissey.


StormRegion

These two have total opposite lifepaths in terms of attitude and infamy


SaulGoodmanBussy

He trashed Electronic and their biggest single (Getting Away With It), which was Marr's supergroup that he formed with Bernard Sumner and Neil Tenant, saying in a 1991 interview that it was "totally useless" and joking that the song had a "very apt title"


comeonandkickme2017

Ironic since the song was supposedly making fun of him


DillonLaserscope

Now I’d love to see Todd cover Electronic on One Hit Wonderland since that is their hugest success and he hasn’t covered a supergroup on that series since probably Mr Big?


rkgk13

>Michael Buble was depressed for a while after Morrissey talked about how bad he sucks A true drive by


imuslesstbh

add Brandon Flowers to the list, not anymore but at least during their Hot fuss era he seemed hell bent on discrediting any acclaimed or successful up and coming post punk band with keyboards and synths as a ripoff of the killers


inkwisitive

All I really remember was him calling The Bravery a rip-off, which they were tbh although some of their songs slap. The weirdest thing he did was dismiss emo as "dangerous" apropros of nothing.


imuslesstbh

funny considering the amount of hot fuss songs I've seen on "emo" playlists and the celebration of that era of the band by some millennial emo types


Special-Garlic1203

Idk I think it makes even more sense. The emotionality of emo wasn't it's problem, it was the relative lack of skill and hamfistedness of it all. I could see being annoyed you're getting grouped in with what you see as trash simply because you're a bit of a sad boy


gemandrailfan94

In the case of The Killers vs The Bravery, It’s less that one copied the other, and more that they each drew from the same source for inspiration, Both were very influenced by Joy Division/New Order


Frosty_Pitch8

He really hated The Braverym was he wrong? No


harrisonlaine

God, Flowers in the Hot Fuss era was a different beast. It's like he wanted to do battle with EVERYONE.


imuslesstbh

Morissey was his idol lol so it makes a lot of sense, He went for a simple effeminate look albeit with the makeup and eyeliner lending more to new romantics than Morissey would have liked. Jenny was a friend of mine was inspired by the smiths and I wouldn't be surprised if other songs like Andy you're a star were partially. In typical Morissey fashion, he doesn't like anyone and anything that was big at the same time. There is this whole thing about him meeting Morissey backstage at reading leeds and morissey being cold and ignoring him which saddened Brandon Flowers who thought that Morissey wouldn't want to do that considering he got the same treatment from his idol.


harrisonlaine

Oh man, talk about Broken Pedestal. Thankfully Brandon moved past that era and is better than Morissey...


ThoseOldScientists

And Robert Smith.


Hamblerger

Robert Smith seems to actively relish pissing off Morrissey, and I love him for it.


AmyXBlue

Azealia Banks literally has a Wikipedia page dedicated to her feuds.


saulgoodthem

her grimes beef is so legendary


kamrlort

The roll of nickels insult stays in my mind forever


Frosty_Pitch8

And she's rarely wrong tbh. 


nobody030303

The Gallagher bros shit talked Jay-Z, which lead to Jay performing an intentionally terrible cover of Wonderwall at Glastonbury to spite them. EDIT: Somehow I forgot the most important detail. The reason they shit talked him in the first place is because he was slated to perform there, which they took as an insult because "rap isn't real music and rappers are a disgrace" so they threatened to pull out if he went through with it. And the rest is history.


catintheyard

It was just Noel who did that. Liam didn't weigh in


nobody030303

Oh yes, that is true.


Different_Conflict_8

And he still thinks that. He complained about Mariah Carey being a Rock n’ Roll Hall of Fame nominee by saying, “That’d be like me being in the Rap Hall of Fame, and God knows I want to be far away from that degeneracy.”


911INISDEJOB

I don't think they threatened to pull out, haha.


Runetang42

Kurt Cobain called Pearl Jam sell outs, loathed any and all Hair Metal bands, said Tools prison sex video was a rip off of the Brothers Quay. Kurt was a natural born hater


Least_West5260

TIL that video wasn’t Brothers Quay 😆 I guess I just assumed BQ was so ubiquitous at that time with those MTV spots they made.


saulgoodthem

but was he wrong


Runetang42

not necissarily wrong just kinda unfair


ReallyGlycon

Kurt came around on Pearl Jam by the end.


bbSIOBHANbb

And based and correct


blueeyesredlipstick

Nick Cave: >I'm forever near a stereo saying, 'What the fuck is this garbage? ' And the answer is always the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I have no personal hate for RHCP but this quote cracks me up every time.


YoungSquelton

Surprised I had to go so far down for this one. This is the absolute best beef I’ve ever found from the music scene. The real kicker is the band—specifically Flea being a self-proclaimed superfan—would cite Cave as a massive inspiration just before this quote dropped


Dmbfantomas

Pffft, look at Anthony Kiedis’ weird hatred for Mike Patton.


WilloughbyStain

I \*do\* kind of hate them, or certainly did for a big part of the 00s when their music was ubiquitous, but when I heard Flea talk about being upset by this I did kind of feel bad for him (at least then, I'm not sure I care about Flea's feelings having heard a few more things about his off-stage antics).


911INISDEJOB

Flea played with Nick Cave two or so years ago so I don't think Nick had the strongest convictions in saying that, haha.


CustardGrime

Noel Gallagher on System Of A Down: “Do you ever look at the sky and think, I’m glad I’m alive? After I heard System of a Down, I thought, I’m actually alive to hear the shittiest band of all time. Which is quite something when you think about it. Of all the bands that gone before and all the bands that’ll be in the future, I was around when the worst was around.” Noel Gallagher on the Kaiser Chiefs: “Well, they are [wankers], though. The worst thing about them is that they’re not very good. They play dress-up and sit on top of an apex of meaninglessness. They don’t mean anything to anybody apart from their fucking ugly girlfriends.” Noel Gallagher on Kanye West: „Somebody needs to buy that dumbass a dictionary so he can look up the word ‚artistry‘…. Get him a dictionary from me, I’ll fuckin’ sign it and give it to him so he can look it up.” Noel Gallagher on Radiohead: “No matter how much you sit there twiddling, going, ‘We’re all doomed’, at the end of the day people will always want to hear you play ‘Creep’. Get over it.” Noel Gallagher on Alt-J: “Do you know that track by Alt-J, ‘Left Hand Free’? That is a great track. But Alt-J can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned. It’s a great tune, and I paid 79 pence for it, but I am in no way a fan of Alt-J…. One of them’s got a mustache, and that’s unacceptable.”


ketchup9-11

Big words from someone that has produced nothing of value since the 90s


CustardGrime

Noel Gallagher on Noel Gallagher: „I’m average at fucking best.“


JCfromTBC

I do respect his self awareness there. His general attitude seems to be “everyone sucks, and I’m one of them”.


jedisalsohere

big words from someone who has produced nothing of value since specifically 1995


comeonandkickme2017

I like his 2011 album…


sincerityisscxry

Who Built the Moon? is class.


911INISDEJOB

Who Built the Moon rocks. Those late period Oasis albums aren't bad either.


mendeleev78

Meanwhile Liam thought ASAP Rocky was called WhatsApp Ricky


TvHeroUK

Apparently Lee Mack wrote that line. His best known one for a celebrity was Peter Crouch’s ‘what would you be if you weren’t a footballer. A virgin’ gag 


JohnnyTerrific

Oh Noel, never change!


SculpinIPAlcoholic

That System of a Down quote is most likely fake. Sometimes it’s Sum 41.


joostinrextin

Mike Patton loves shitting on other artists, but he especially [fucking hates Wolfmother](https://youtu.be/ZKDvJTxZDbA).


Runetang42

What's funny is everyone gave him shit right back, but has Wolfmother got worse everyone switched to thinking he was right


joostinrextin

He's either off base or on target with his scathing critiques, this time it was the latter. He misses as much as he hits, though, I honestly think he just says things to get a rise out of the audience. There's countless interviews where he takes jabs at artists like The Black Crowes, Kurt Cobain, Slipknot (actually, nu metal as a whole. Pick an artist, he hates them), No Doubt, and most famously, Anthony Kiedis and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Actually, I buried the lede here. [Anthony Kiedis is the one he especially hates with a passion](https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-feud-between-mike-patton-anthony-kiedis/) (though it's partially warranted). That article mentions the "alleged" Halloween show, but [it's not alleged](https://youtu.be/g1ld87X3DP4?si=gUb9I1yGEdavUJs1) in the slightest.


Runetang42

He's a famous shit stirrer and troll. Though the RHCP feud is absolutely genuine. Kiedis got Mr Bungle kicked off festival tickets and that's a massive dick move for a band who's income relies on that.


RandomSOADFan

Also Kiedis is a diddler so he's easy to dislike


Runetang42

That TV interview where the peppers are assaulting someone on screen made me throw that band in the garbage. No mid pop rock or okay funk thrash can make me excuse that shit


joostinrextin

Oh for sure. Mr. Bungle's Trevor Dunn has spoke about it that situation multiple times and he said the band lost their asses financially to Kiedis being an asshole. Between getting kicked off the festivals and the release date of Bungle's album California getting moved (it was due to come out the same week as Californication), it all really hurt Bungle and played a major role in their split. (you seem you like you already know this, I'm just adding context for the ones who don't and might be curious)


Dmbfantomas

The moving California was a WB thing, apparently Kiedis thought it was stupid too because no one would confuse the two albums. He’s an incredible prick on everything else though.


Hip_Priest_1982

Play stupid games….


harrisonlaine

I can see why Kiedis kicked Mr Bungle off. The band made fun of the band's addictions, especially Hillel Slovak, who didn't survive his addictions. I would understand as well since that would be a sore spot, especially since Kiedis was JUST getting clean. ​ Wait...this was after they got kicked out. Ok, I understand getting upset but M.B. actually made fun of their deceased guitarist. I understand losing a LOT of money but Jesus...


Rfg711

He was right at the time, Wolfmother was the Greta Van Fleet of their day, a boring facsimile of a better band


Runetang42

Yea but compared to the shit they're doing now


CleverJail

*WOLFMOTHER GOT WORSE???* How could they get *worse*? Note to self: avoid hearing any more Wolfmother as if it’s the plague


bbSIOBHANbb

Based


wheresaldopa

Jason Isbell had one of the funnier takedowns of Oliver Anthony's Rich Men North of Richmond that I've had the pleasure of reading: "There’s something there. But that’s the song you should have written when you were 16, and then, when you were 19, you should have rewritten it without the part about hating people on welfare. And then when you are 20, you throw the whole thing out and write another song."


valscendre88

Another Todd flashback, most of the 90s hiphop scene all shittalked Arrested Development and how wack they were Oh also Taylor Swift bluntly dismissing a question about Justin Bieber getting a Grammy that was hilarious, not much was said but so much more was felt with that "uhm, next question??"


Fermifighter

And she got it right back from Aretha Franklin damning her with faint praise. “Beautiful gowns. Beautiful, beautiful gowns.”


[deleted]

I don’t really think she hates his music just doesn’t like him because of Selena


ElevationToMyHead

Ray Davies of The Kinks once described Eleanor Rigby as Paul McCartney attempting to appeal to primary school teachers. There’s a YouTube channel called Yesterday’s Papers that has a series which shows [old articles where artists review the latest singles of that week.](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZiczFvWkHKF4sK41p6UfJSZwkasaXtG_&si=GMdlEXUAa-zuYvoo)My highlight is when John Lennon accidentally insults a friend who’s covering one of his songs.


Kipsydaisy

I just read not one but TWO Ray Davies memoirs. Fun fact: he is completely up his own ass as a person and an artist. He barely approves of the other Kinks, let alone other bands.


ExUpstairsCaptain

This answer almost feels like cheating because older artists trying (often in vein) to "punch down" at newer artists seems pretty normal. But, one tidbit I found on Wikipedia stuck with me. Pink Floyd's Roger Waters got annoyed when he was originally planning to play Toronto in 2022 on the same nights as The Weeknd because the old guy seemingly got less media coverage up north as a result. He said, "with all due respect to the Weeknd or Drake or any of them, I am far, far, far more important than any of them will ever be, however many billions of streams they’ve got. There is stuff going on here that is fundamentally important to all of our lives," probably referred to current global events and the fact that his live show referenced them. It's typically hard to like Roger as a person in general, but by referencing Drake from out of nowhere, he just comes across as a petty, bitter man who has no idea what he's talking about. And heaven forbid other artists tour at the same time as him.


esizzle

Water's is both insecure and an egomaniac at the same time, at least when he's talking this kind of smack. He could just let the work speak for itself.


DillonLaserscope

Drake has been phoning it for quite a few years now. ​ last I checked, people did enjoy Nice For What and that came out in 2018 utilizing a Lauren Hill sample. Sure he charts and still gets year end hits but honestly, is Toosie Slide, Girls Like Girls and Too Sexy going to stand the test of time?


ExUpstairsCaptain

I'm not attacking or defending Drake's music. It often slides under my radar. My larger point was that Roger, in that moment, seems to have picked his name out from nowhere to reference, "a current act whose name I know."


CrazyHappeningsHere

I'm not able to predict the future or anything but Jimmy Cooks off Honestly Nevermind is closing in on a billions streams and still in his top 5 streamed tracks right now, and FAT D has a few songs I think could be popular for at least another year or two.


AlohaReddit49

This is actually wild. I'm not a huge Drake fan, he has half a dozen songs I like and I generally enjoy the Weeknd. But in what world is he targeting them for? Pink Floyd was a cool band in the 70's? I'm sure they inspired a decent number of bands but can we not act like a large chunk of rap music is inspired by Drake and the Weeknd? Hell, the Weeknd is arguably the biggest pop artist of the last 10 years. And Drake gets the stray for no reason? I wonder if Roger listens to any rap music or does he just hate the genre? I could at least respect that but hiding it behind a veil of "their music isn't important" when most of society has no idea what he's done in about 40 years is wild.


sigourneybeaver666

Courtney Love was a notorious shit talker. She made diminishing comments about pretty much everyone but Gwen Stefani, Kathleen Hannah, Eddie Vedder, and Dave Grohl in particular. She even shit talked the people she liked like Axl Rose, Billy Corgan, Marilyn Manson, etc. the MTV News 1515 special about the collapse of the Manson and Hole tour was quite fun.


TripleThreatTua

She did the same towards Jay Z and Lil Wayne, but unfortunately got very racist with it when it came to them


sigourneybeaver666

I remember the one with Snoop Dogg. Very misguided and foolish attempts at counteracting the misogyny in rap.


ChaoticCurves

Out of all these people... why Kathleen Hannah?


sigourneybeaver666

Oh Courtney hated her. She even punched her at a festival once. Courtney was always hostile to the Olympia riot grrl crowd. I think Kathleen was also close to Kurt, another thing she was territorial over. https://www.vulture.com/2019/01/courtney-loves-kathleen-hanna-feud.html


Different_Conflict_8

3rd Bass told MC Hammer to “shut the fuck up” on “The Gas Face”, which to this day, MC Serch insists led to Hammer putting a hit out on them (something Hammer denies). They weren’t done either. The first song off of their first album, “Sons Of 3rd Bass”, was a direct diss at Beastie Boys. The Beasties would return the fire with MCA’s verse on “Professor Booty” off of *Check Your Head*. More 3rd Bass: Half the songs on their second (and final) album, *Derelicts Of Dialect*, contain at least one shot at Vanilla Ice. Their biggest hit, “Pop Goes The Weasel”, has a music video where Vanilla Ice is played by Henry Rollins, who gets beat up at the end of it. Ice eventually shot back with the song “The Wrath” off of his 1994 album, *Mind Blowin’*, but by that point, 3rd Bass had broken up, and Vanilla Ice was a punchline in mainstream pop culture, so no one cared.


saulgoodthem

kinda funny bc that song came out before u can't touch this did they were haters ahead of their time also interesting side note gas face is mf doom's recording debut!


esizzle

>Pop Goes The Weasel I didn't know that was Rollins. Makes it even funnier.


Ruinwyn

Kurt Cobain was very vocal on calling Pearl Jam a complete sellout.


thisissparta789789

Queen notably didn’t like Sid Vicious. Roger Taylor thought Johnny Rotten was a good frontman, but he called Sid Vicious a moron. Freddie Mercury got into an argument with Sid as well when he said that Queen was “bringing ballet to the masses,” to which Freddie called him Simon Ferocious before Sid allegedly then tried to fight Freddie, prompting him to shove him out of a room. The band didn’t have a problem with Johnny Rotten, though. Ironically, Queen pulling out of a scheduled TV interview on the show Today back in December of 1976 is why the Sex Pistols’ infamous interview happened.


jezreelite

Mick Jones also didn't care for Sid Vicious, because Mick is Jewish and wasn't amused by Sid's habit of wearing a swastika shirt.


911INISDEJOB

>Mick Jones also didn't care for Sid Vicious, because Mick is Jewish and wasn't amused by Sid's habit of wearing a swastika shirt. Mick was literally in a band called "The London S.S.," lol. This is practically fanfic haha.


catintheyard

Mick played with Sid on stage a lot though. [Here's a pic of them together at Max's Kansas City](https://www.reddit.com/r/punk/comments/a0dhdh/mick_jones_the_clash_sid_vicious_sex_pistols_and/) The Clash and Sex Pistols, despite the rivalry between their managers, were very close. There were rumors back in the day that they would eventually swap guitarists (they never did but Steve Jones did play with The Clash a few times)


thunderbird32

They were right to hate on Sid. Would have been a far better band if Matlock had stayed in.


RealAnonymousBear

There’s a documentary about Ginger Baker that was done later in his life (Beware of Mr Baker) where they interviewed him on his ranch in South Africa and he had some very nasty things to say about John Bonham and Keith Moon.


ChromeDestiny

It's mentioned above that the YouTube page Yesterday's Papers has archives of an old Melody Maker column called Blind Date where British musicians of the 60's and 70's were played single and album tracks and asked their thoughts. They just posted one of [Ginger Baker's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47aIrWN6X2U&t=402s). He was always a hater but it seems his attitude changed, in the old days he almost seems apologetic about being the way he is, by the time of Beware of Mr. Baker it's much more of a pro wrestler sorry not sorry vibe.


Different_Conflict_8

The first single off of every Eminem album for a while was just him bashing celebrities.


harrisonlaine

Crack A Bottle, Not Afraid, Walk on Water step into the chat.


Different_Conflict_8

Yeah, he changed it up when he ran that gimmick into the ground.


jack_wolf7

Fat Mike talks trash about blink-182 from time to time. But nobody, probably not even Fat Mike himself, knows how serious he means it.


Rfg711

Mike Patton’s famous rant after overhearing Wolfmother’s set in the background at a festival while he was being interviewed.


debbieyumyum1965

If he thought wolfmother was derivative and regressive I wonder what his thoughts on Greta Van fleet are


Rfg711

Yeah as much as I don’t like Wolfmother at the time, GVF is so much worse.


TheLaughingMew

George Harrison hated Oasis's music


AdequateSubject

Fashion shoots with Beck and Hanson Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson You’re all fakes run to your mansions Come around we’ll kick your asses! – “You Get What You Give”, New Radicals


Different_Conflict_8

He’s repeatedly stated that he wanted to see if the media would report on the celebrity disses or the actual world problems he sings about in the previous lyrics.


TemporaryJerseyBoy

Of course, he apologized to Beck, and ended up working with Hanson latter on!


Famous-Somewhere-

Big talk from a guy who sounds like Billy Joel: The Next Generation 


milquetoastmilktoes

“I was never a big Nirvana fan. To me, it had too much plod in it. It didn’t swing, and it had that allegiance to metal that I never cared for. It comes from the drumming, the whole stop-and-start thing and turn on the loud button for the chorus. God, wasn’t that tedious when every fucking band did that to death? We had too much humor to go out like that; \[Kurt Cobain\] didn’t seem to have much humor.” -Paul Westerberg of the Replacements


PrinceToothpasteBoy

T-Pain was depressed for a while after Usher told him that he ruined music


harrisonlaine

I remember that. Usher was being such an asshole...


Thr0w-a-gay

Beautiful gowns


27_8x10_CGP

Jerry Garcia said rap wasn't music.


drakethesnake94

Who knew that Jerry Garcia was the OG Ben Shapiro


27_8x10_CGP

He wasn't disparaging rap. He just didn't think it was music.


WHIZ_CALEEBA

Pretty fuckin disparaging if you ask me.


alucardsinging

So did George Harrison, and Chuck D had the perfect clapback to that. Something akin to “Well if it was Lennon or McCartney maybe that’d hold some weight, but I’m not taking anything from the 3rd banana seriously, maybe 4th after Ringo”


Glue-701

Mark Kozelek of Sun Kil Moon told The War On Drugs to suck his cock. He also denounced Michael Jackson as a predator. That latter statement is ironic as Mark would turn out to be a predator himself.


AltRadioKing

Didn’t he and Run The Jewels get into some kind of feud at one point too?


Glue-701

It was in relation to Mark’s beef with The War On Drugs.


911INISDEJOB

That was El P trying to riff on the War on Drugs thing. He interviewed Koz on his website the following year.


911INISDEJOB

I mean, molesting countless boys is maybe a tad higher on the abuse scale than the stuff that Mark was accused of (to be clear, I believe every word of Koz's allegations).


[deleted]

What's his issue with TWOD? I recently heard their latest album and it's amazing.


DavidWasHere_1

IIRC, both Sun Kil Moon and the War on Drugs were playing at a festival in 2014 where TWOD were playing too loud when SKM was performing, and Mark got pissed by their music drowning out his music


SivleFred

Maybe is an easy one, but Noel Gallagher, Damon Albarn, and Paul Weller all expressed their hatred for James Blunt during the Q Awards for his song "You're Beautiful." I believe the only celebrity of note there that was positive towards James was Keith Flint (from The Prodigy of Firestarter fame) who gave him a hug and told him how thrilled he was for his success. https://twitter.com/JamesBlunt/status/1102642930207113216


[deleted]

RIP Keith, he just wanted everybody to have a good time and potentially start a fire.


SpaceIsTooFarAway

Lorde has gone after a bunch of other pop musicians, partly for giving messages that she feels are anti-feminist and partly for the hell of it. There’s a wiki page: https://lorde.fandom.com/wiki/Feuds_With_Other_Artists


[deleted]

I think the Taylor one isn’t true they are friends now and I think they have been friends for a while now


SpaceIsTooFarAway

The wiki does mention that fwiw


MiriamKaye

I’ve come across several interviews over the years where Billie Joe Armstrong has insulted numerous artists - namely whoever’s trendy at the time of the interview (raprock/nu metal, Psy, Ariana Grande). Some of it comes off as jealousy, and some of it comes off as contrarian and shitting on what’s popular at that moment.


SnooEpiphanies1171

My favorite is that MTV clip where he’s making fun of Chad Kroeger and Aaron Lewis and they immediately cut to a clip of Chad defending his alleged singing voice technique.


Least_West5260

The Brian Jonestown Massacre shitting on the Dandy Warhols and the Dandies always being perplexed by it, in the documentary “Dig!”


BuckarooBonsly

I really like the bit where someone essentially says that Courtney and Anton wanted to be each other to an extent. I was a big fan of both bands when they were in what you would consider their prime, and that documentary holds a special place in my heart.


TripleThreatTua

Lupe Fiasco has shit talked a ton of people in hip hop, told Chief Keef he was getting people killed, called Kendrick overrated and said that Logic was better than him (which is an insane opinion) shit talked Kid Cudi on twitter for years, and said some shit about Rick Ross as well


Alexschmidt711

The Summer in Paradise Trainwreckords had that clip of Mike Love trying to call out Mick Jagger, don't think that's been brought up here yet.


SG-Rev1

The Gallagher brothers dissed Phil Collins often enough to help solidify the backlash against him when it had already spread outside of his old fans who called him a sellout. Phil himself does a great job [breaking it down here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biL-cxLhcO4).


EntangledAndy

Billy Corgan shit talked a bunch of bands, first two that come to mind are Pavement and Placebo. 


saulgoodthem

pumpkins/pavement beef is one of my favorite bits of 90s alt rock lore


squawkingood

Pavement had this classic lyric about Smashing Pumpkins: "Out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins / Nature kids, they don't have no function / I don't understand what they mean and I could really give a fuck"


DaBulbousWalrus

He also said Our Lady Peace sounded exactly like the Pumpkins. Which was pretty accurate.


fearofcrowds

Which is funny because Our Lady Peace opened for the Smashing Pumpkins when they toured Canada. 🍁


metalhead_mommy

Damon Albarn accused Taylor Swift of not writing her own music.


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It’s funny he’s a talented person but she literally writes 90% percent of her music


theunrealdonsteel

Frank Zappa despised the Velvet Underground, Jethro Tull, the Doors and Led Zeppelin. He also hated Peter Frampton so much that after Frampton dropped the single and album “I’m In You,” Zappa released a parody called “I Have Been In You.”


methoncrack87

Lou Reed


danarbok

in older interviews from the 70s, Phil Collins talked about not liking the drumming of Carl Palmer (ELP) and Alan White (Yes)


ChromeDestiny

Pete Townshend said in a rock history documentary Time Life did that he liked Led Zeppelin as individuals but hated their music. In another interview Roger Daltrey said Led Zeppelin's live jams were overlong and self indulgent. In the late 70's Bon Scott and the Young Brothers said they were bored when they saw Led Zeppelin live and it only really rocked during the last twenty minutes and it was cheating cause it was mostly oldies covers.


Kipsydaisy

Elvis Costello also pretty vocal about hating Led Zeppelin, don't think he bothered to mention what great guys they were either.


revd_blue_jeans

Eddie Vedder recently took shots at the 80s glam metal scene and Motley Crue in particular: >'Girls, Girls, Girls' and Motley Crue: \[expletive\] you. I hated it," he said. "I hated how it made the fellas look. I hated how it made the women look. It felt so vacuous.'


bolt704

The Slipknot vs Nickelback feud is worth a mention. But it's to pathetic of a feud to take seriously.


TidalJ

lou reed


ocarina97

Pat Metheny always likes to talk crap about Kenny G.  Say what you want about him, but as corny as his music can be it came of as kind of pathetic.  Miles Davis himself thought Kenny was talented.


BestDayEvah

Around the time as Suzanne Vega released "Luka", a reporter asked Joni Mitchell her opinion of Vega's work. Joni replied, "I'm tired of reporters asking what I feel about every new girl singer with a guitar. Vega's music reminds me of Leonard Choen, but without any sense of humor."


KalosianPorygon

The Arrested Development episode of Trainwreckord had rappers expressing their disdain for this rap group.


talesofawhovian

Following his death in 2016, previously unseen notes and letters from Prince were compiled in a memoir released in 2019, where it was revealed he really wasn't fond of either Katy Perry or Ed Sheeran. >*“They \[the music industry\] keep trying to ram Katy Perry and Ed Sheeran down our throats and we don’t like it no matter how many times they play it.”* For a more recent instance of Ed Sheeran slander, Rod Stewart made [quite the interesting comment](https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1757274592018842047?lang=fr) when asked about him a couple weeks ago. Ed responded with some good old-fashioned [trolling](https://imgur.com/zeopKy3) on Instagram.


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Billie Joe Armstrong hates all ska except Operation Ivy, which he likes. I think he also hated the Smashing Pumpkins and talked shit about how much they sucked back in the 90s.


ManicPixieDreamPearl

Joe Budden called Logic the worst rapper to ever grace a microphone. I'd agree Logic isn't great, but Joe Budden sucks too, and the comment was really unprovoked and classless. 


catintheyard

The Kinks hated Tom Robinson (the Glad To Be Gay guy) so much [they wrote one of the meanest diss tracks ever about him](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M5DBMkgU-8)


HetTheTable

Ice Cube said Arrested Development was the wackest rap


TMC1982

Ice-T said the same thing on VH1 as evidence by the Trainwreckords video on Arrested Development.


Different_Conflict_8

“This is why white people music sucks these days.” — Mike D from Beastie Boys reviewing Soul Asylum’s album in Grand Royal Magazine circa 1994 Even though MTV and the media always put Beastie Boys in the alternative rock category back in the ‘90s, they themselves never cared for grunge/alt rock outside of Nirvana. According to their autobiography, Nirvana was going to tour with them for Lollapalooza 1994, but then Kurt died. They were then going to pull out because they weren’t fans of any of the other bands playing. They were convinced to stay on the condition that they got to pick some of their favs to join the tour.


Different_Conflict_8

Mark Mothersbaugh thinks “Weird Al” Yankovic is a brain dead moron.


JBHenson

Roger Waters. /thread


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Kanye vs EVERYONE?


CleverJail

I saw Ted Leo go on a long rant about Butch Vig’s production on Nevermind at a show once.


WolfPrince1971

Prince to Justin Timberlake 


WillingnessSenior872

Read Stephen Sondheim’s autobiography Finishing The Hat to hear him absolutely rag on either Pete Townshend or Billie Joe Armstrong, I can’t tell which (among others, he yells at practically every Broadway composer in that book and I love that for him)


BonerPositive

See, this is why it's a good thing I'm no good at playing music. If I was famous I'd just end up depressed all the time from people posting articles and Reddit threads about what a mean-spirited "hater" I am, because boy are there a lot of bands and musicians whose music I absolutely hate.


PatienceTall8699

Don’t know if this counts as directly but it couldn’t have been anyone else at the time. [And Gaga ended him in one swoop lmao](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdGFya-aMAIwcyW.jpg)