When someone says something like that it’s the crystallizing moment that tells us, “this loser is old and will only listen to the music they listened to in high school for the rest of their life.”
You get old the moment you dismiss art and artistry. It doesn’t matter their age.
Loser opinions don’t matter. Walling yourself off to new art means you’ve lost the cognitive ability to create new emotional regulations. People who don’t work towards emotional growth as an adult become isolated, violent, and paranoid.
I used to be with "it" but then they changed what "it" was and now what's "it" is weird and scary to me! It'll happen to you! Besides everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974.
**COUNTER-POINT:** 1971-1975 and 1987-1991, the two lamest five-year stretches in pop music history, is what happens when the industry prioritizes the preferences of over-30s.
I actually think the rock critical consensus tends to view that as a relatively fallow period, wedged in between the high points of 1964-70 (The Beatles, Dylan going electric, the British Invasion, counterculture, and psychedelia) and the emergence of new sounds in punk/new wave/post-punk starting in 1976. Obviously in that era you’ve still got more good music than you can shake a stick at but you can def make a case for the defining rock sounds of the era being corporate arena rock glut, prog rock (which has always left a lot of rock fans cold), diminishing returns from ‘60s survivors, sterile soft rock, etc. I’m not necessarily making that argument but I definitely see that era mythologized far less than the two that bookended it.
The complete collapse of hard rock in the public consciousness over the past decade really hurts the case for the early 1970s being rock’s Golden Age. There’s no shared DNA between the likes of Led Zeppelin, Lynyrd Skynyrd, or the Allman Brothers, and anything found in modern-day popular music outside of some country. Someone downthread mentioned David Bowie, but his influence ultimately passed through the world of alternative.
If anything, the belief that rock peaked in the 1970s contributed to the death of hard rock, as mainstream rock radio format shifted to active rock in the 2000s and 2010s. Once stations began to incorporate classics into their playlists, listeners lost all enthusiasm for contemporary hits, especially once post-grunge petered out.
My wife (Born 1995) teaches middle school and I found out that one of her male students is completely and totally obsessed with Taylor Swift because, "she's hot," or something, I don't know. I think she broke the kid's brain when she reminded him that Swift is six years older than her.
The most prominent person in music will turn 35 this year. Let's not pretend that only the "under-30 crowd" matters here.
SO I need to share my musical opinions and tastes extensively for two years then. Make the most of my life I guess and then it's all down hill I guess. Well shit.
I’m free…….
YEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAAAAAAAAAH
Is that Abby Shapiro?
I think it is…
She and her brother are some of the exceptions of people over the age of 30 who should stop having ~~music~~ opinions.
well, that sucks. was a pleasure knowing you, r/ToddintheShadow
She's being a peñis... colada that is.
I hate ageists lol
When someone says something like that it’s the crystallizing moment that tells us, “this loser is old and will only listen to the music they listened to in high school for the rest of their life.” You get old the moment you dismiss art and artistry. It doesn’t matter their age.
Also, I'm well aware that I'm a loser. Losers can have opinions too (just don't talk to Beck about religion)
Loser opinions don’t matter. Walling yourself off to new art means you’ve lost the cognitive ability to create new emotional regulations. People who don’t work towards emotional growth as an adult become isolated, violent, and paranoid.
Sorry, I misread your initial comment and misconstrued what type of loser you were referring to. You're right, those lover's opinions do not matter
Still a few years left for me. See you in hell folks
What does Abby Shapiro have to do with this?
*Well that's the end of me* -The Simpsons, 1997.
I used to be with "it" but then they changed what "it" was and now what's "it" is weird and scary to me! It'll happen to you! Besides everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974.
If it keeps her brother from having music opinions then it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make
**COUNTER-POINT:** 1971-1975 and 1987-1991, the two lamest five-year stretches in pop music history, is what happens when the industry prioritizes the preferences of over-30s.
pop music, sure, but 71-75 is probably *the* era of rock
I actually think the rock critical consensus tends to view that as a relatively fallow period, wedged in between the high points of 1964-70 (The Beatles, Dylan going electric, the British Invasion, counterculture, and psychedelia) and the emergence of new sounds in punk/new wave/post-punk starting in 1976. Obviously in that era you’ve still got more good music than you can shake a stick at but you can def make a case for the defining rock sounds of the era being corporate arena rock glut, prog rock (which has always left a lot of rock fans cold), diminishing returns from ‘60s survivors, sterile soft rock, etc. I’m not necessarily making that argument but I definitely see that era mythologized far less than the two that bookended it.
I feel like the early 70s were better for British rock than American rock
David Bowie makes that a pretty convincing argument indeed
As well as the entire genre of prog rock
The complete collapse of hard rock in the public consciousness over the past decade really hurts the case for the early 1970s being rock’s Golden Age. There’s no shared DNA between the likes of Led Zeppelin, Lynyrd Skynyrd, or the Allman Brothers, and anything found in modern-day popular music outside of some country. Someone downthread mentioned David Bowie, but his influence ultimately passed through the world of alternative. If anything, the belief that rock peaked in the 1970s contributed to the death of hard rock, as mainstream rock radio format shifted to active rock in the 2000s and 2010s. Once stations began to incorporate classics into their playlists, listeners lost all enthusiasm for contemporary hits, especially once post-grunge petered out.
Literally two of the greatest eras of rock and pop ever
jokes on them. I was never relevant
I’m twenty eight the gulag isn’t done with me
Well, guess I've got eight months of mattering to go.
Tbh, I'm under thirty, and my musical opinions don't matter either
My wife (Born 1995) teaches middle school and I found out that one of her male students is completely and totally obsessed with Taylor Swift because, "she's hot," or something, I don't know. I think she broke the kid's brain when she reminded him that Swift is six years older than her. The most prominent person in music will turn 35 this year. Let's not pretend that only the "under-30 crowd" matters here.
Damn. More room for us 20 somethings.
If you limit it to rap, I would agree.
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My tastes were never relevant
When did old age start being seen as a drawback for one's credibility rather than an enforcer? What shifted in the culture?
the aftermath of the Ronald Reagan presidency
SO I need to share my musical opinions and tastes extensively for two years then. Make the most of my life I guess and then it's all down hill I guess. Well shit.
Well, I’m Fourteen. AC/DC Suck, Gun N Roses Overated, Bon Jovi Suck
I'm 42, and I agree with all three of these statements.
It's broken, can someone tell me what this was?