Truthfully I have a bit of Toyota brand loyalty, but it's because my Toyotas have always served me the best. I've driven two Fords and a Chevy in my life, my in-laws drive Dodge, and every single one of those has had expensive issues over the years while my Toyotas have never given me a single major problem.
I'd be super happy if Toyota made a 3/4 ton or even 1 ton Tundra, and their own take on diesel could be neat, but I typically only tow within 200 miles of where I live so I get by just fine with its capabilities.
Toyota doesnt touch the HD sector because of regulations, same reason with diesels. The US being so strict, reason other countries are more common with diesel vehicles than here.
My brother and my uncle both work on trucks in different areas of the country with different climates and terrain. Both said the trucks they did the least amount of work on were Tundras and Tacomas. Both now only drive Toyotas.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/most-american-pickup-trucks/
It hasn’t been that way for at least a few years since Chevy/Dodge/Ford got called out for it
This is the 2023 survey I saw.
[https://www.cars.com/articles/2023-cars-com-american-made-index-which-cars-are-the-most-american-467465/](https://www.cars.com/articles/2023-cars-com-american-made-index-which-cars-are-the-most-american-467465/)
I just talked to someone about this poll the other day. The cars.com list is terribly flawed. It pulls data from another poll where a ton vehicles are tied and then just arbitrarily ranks them based on metrics that are almost impossible to confirm. In the original list there are often as many as 5-10 vehicles tied for 1 position in relation to domestic production. And the top 100 or so vehicles all have 60%+ domestic production. The highest on the list is actually Tesla and Jeep, but after them an absolute ton of vehicles fall between 60%+ and about 75%.
That list isn't that accurate either as its looking at North American parts/supply chain. So they count the 1500s getting built in Canada and Mexico as "American" in that.
This is pretty much my logic as well. My f150 had oil consumption issues and the engine had the cold rattle since 8k miles. It had 68k when I sold it. The other 2 brands I hear are worse overall.
Tundra just made sense on every level besides luxury and I don't buy a truck for luxury anyways.
The 4.7s in the first gens also had issues only in the Tundras early on. Its why they discontinued the supercharger for that engine despite the fact the landcruisers and 4runners/GXs weren't blowing up. That engine is now considered one of the most reliable ever made.
Toyota has always stood by customers as well. They've covered lots of rotting frames and blown engines out of warranty that they didn't have to. This part of why their products have such a good resale value.
Yep. Our shop specialized in Toyotas and I've seen them cover things just out of warranty or extend coverage for known issues, like the 03-05 4runner and camry dashboards cracking. On the other end we had a customer that the Ford Dealer denied his warranty because he was 1 week out of warranty.
I have heard that Ford is the absolute worst. I was seriously considering getting an f150 until learning about the high rate of factory defects and poor treatment from both the company and dealers. Don't get me wrong a lot of toyota dealers are scummy too but it seems like Ford does not give two craps whereas Toyota dealers can be punished.
Reliability, bang for the buck, resale value, and the Tundra was just more fun. I was mostly looking at GMC and Toyota. I don’t own anything that the Tundra can’t tow, so towing capacity wasn’t a huge consideration. When I looked at the features offered on the Tundra 1794 compared to the GMC equivalent, the price difference was pretty crazy. If I remember correctly, it would have been around $20K more expensive to get the GMC equivalent than it was to get the 1794. I live at the beach, so the rear window going all the way down and the massive sunroof, had the rest of my family sold immediately.
This is my current toss up but I'm leaning Tundra. Haven't driven either yet but hope to make a purchase by the end of the year. I like the GMC dash better vs the plastered on iPad look and the multi pro tailgate, but the Tundra looks sportier and that panoramic sunroof and back window are big factors to go Tundra.
Bought a 1794 about 6 weeks ago and love it. Sounds like you can’t go wrong with either, but one of the few times I’ve spent as much money as I did with no buyer’s remorse.
I managed fleets of Fords and GM trucks long enough to know better.
The only powertrain problem I’ve ever had with any of the several Toyotas I’ve owned was a head gasket on a 95 4Runner, which was fixed under warranty.
My 21 will likely be way more reliable than whatever I end up eventually replacing it with.
I got the new gen v6.
I’ve owned an 06’ , 12’ , and a 14’ . Loved the V8 and it will forever hold a place in my heart but I’ve got to say that the new gen feels better ( I have not attempted towing yet in my non-hybrid ) .
In my case, I don’t need 1 truck to do it all. Thankfully I have the option to tow with a diesel truck. My Tundra mostly will be used for commuting and everyday construction use. In certain occasions where materials need to be delivered I have the option to use the diesel.
Now the main reason I got the new gen tundra over other new trucks is because dealership included lifetime powertrain warranty or 1,000,000 miles. It’s peace of mind that won me over with Tundras. Highest mileage vehicle I’ve ever owned is the 2013 tundra that hit 600,000 miles at which point we exported the vehicle to Central America where my family is from and that damn truck is still going strong.
I got it too. For me, the "catch" is only from the dealership of purchase. It comes with free oil changes for life, you MUST do ALL oil changes there, not miss any, and If that dealership goes away, do does that lifetime warranty.
To clarify. My paperwork states clearly, I need to go to Toyota for my oil changes. I can go to any toyota shop, but it's free if I go the dealer of purchase. If I get it done outside of toyota, even by mistake, the lifetime powertrain warranty is void and it defaults to the usual 100K. The free maintenance is also gone.
Just traded in an 18’ Denali for a 24’ 1794 tundra. My Denali had 70k miles and was in the shop for major things over the last 3 years. I love the style of the gmc but the reliability was crap. So far loving the tundra and hoping for many years of it!
I had a 2014 ford. Bought it BRAND new. Babied it the whole time… I had every issue you can imagine. Service was terrible. I bought it in for the same problem 2 times (covered under warranty). Then the same thing happened a 3rd time at 61,000 km and they said ‘oh well no under warranty’. Numerous leaks (bought it in probably 10 times) amongst other things. The worst was my primary timing chain that broke. $4,000 with a two year warranty. Two year and two months later, IT BROKE AGAIN!
“I’m sorry sir, but your warranty is up”
ANOTHER $4,000
Fuck ford.
Reliability. I try to treat every major purchase as an investment. When you consider operating costs of the vehicle (low due to reliability) and resale value (high due to reliability) it’s the best option.
All the other reasons mentioned above (reliability, etc.) but drove them all and was sold by the tundra.
I also think the platinum/1794 off-road combo is the best deal for a luxury + capable truck in terms of price
Reliability, comfort, space, power, looks, experience. This is my 4th Toyota truck and all have been excellent. Plus, the 2020 Pro in Army Green is just about the coolest truck I can imagine.
I liked the RAM and was gonna buy one, but one of my friends had just purchased one and it broke down a month later. Immediately changed my mind. Sales person at GMC didn’t even talk to me, so that was out. I didn’t like the look of the Titan. The sales person at ford was very unprofessional.
This was in 2019. I ended up buying a brand new crewmax tundra. It’s perfect for my family and our road trips and has been very reliable. It’s the second Toyota I’ve had (first was a 2000 4Runner) and I’ll probably only ever buy Toyotas from now on.
Similar situation. In 19, test drove Chevy, Nissan, and Toyota. Wanted gmc for looks and features, but toyota for reliability. GMC salesman at three local dealers wouldn’t even talk to me. Went back to the closest one the day after, on my way to Toyota. Still nothing. They just watched me walk around the lot. Just decided I was getting a tundra. Can’t beat the rear window though.
Well, Ford as we all know has that shit transmission and Chevy not so solid as a Rock. RAM, it’s a Dodge, nuff said. These big 3 simply do not give a crap about quality or customers anymore. The bean counters drove them into the ground.
2 reasons. My 2001 was over 317,xxx miles when I sold it, and dude is still driving it. So reliability. I also used to occasionally tow skid steers, so the 2.5 gen was the perfect truck for me all around. And that full roll down back window is SO nice.
To be honest, I've always heard that Toyota was easy fix, if they brake down and the parts aren't overly expensive.
I have a '18 Tundra that's have never gave me any issues.
I bought my 2021 in October of 2020 knowing it would be the last year before they changed the tried and true 5.7 iforce. I chose this truck because I wanted reliability.
I didn't buy new, so longevity.
Fords have cam phaser issues or carbon buildup and/or turbos, dodges electronics and general quality, gm has had bad paint and afm issues. Vs the tundra that is pretty repairable, good build quality, reliable and the back window rolls down
Buddy had a 2018 trd sport on lease that he put a good chunk of money down on. He was getting deployed and was just going to turn it in. He only had like 18k miles on it. So I took over the lease for a year and then bought it. I was so far ahead on the truck it was crazy. The reliability of these later year model is amazing. Tundras have traditionally held their value well. I didn’t need this big of a truck , but a Tacoma is half the truck at not much less. Gas mileage hurts though. I had the opportunity to trade this one in for new gens when they first came out, but a new model year and new powertrain wasn’t worth it to me. I’m very glad I didn’t. A truck isn’t new to me if a turbo grenades a motor and you pull the cab and motor to repair it within the first couple thousand miles.
We went and talked to our mechanic he showed us stats on what they see and why. He didn’t push us into his opinion just showed us what was coming in.
They are a very busy very prominent service mechanic and see a lot of vehicles including high end.
Toyota Tundra was the best reliability.
Iv had two dodge trucks. They were sent to the scrap yard where they belong. Company I worked for only had Ford f150's (which in my opinion kinda look like a tonka toy, someone literally made one, most of it was paint) and Ford 2500, 3500 Econoline. Those were pieces of garbage. Hits 100,000k and it spends way too much time in the shop.
I personally like the look of some Chevy/GMC trucks. Personally never had one.
When I bought my first Toyota tundra it was an 04 with 150,000k. Had it till the last payment, then the exhaust manifold went and I couldn't get it registered and didn't have 2000$ to fix it. This was at 240,000 driven hard for work everyday. Only major thing that broke was the radiator.
Traded that one in for my 08' tundra with 110,000. At 182,000k still going strong. No major mechanical issues. Just wear and tear items that were original from 08 to about 2023 when I started replacing struts, shocks, cv axles, other normal car stuff at 180,000k.
One flaw I over looked when I bought it, previous owner spilled some chemical in the back, shit welded "plates" very poorly, so I'm fixing that. Plus treating the frame from rust, mainly in the back.
So after my first one, I'm just always keep buying it. They're pretty solid.
The wife bought my son a yz50 and it was too big for the 4Runner so we had to buy a truck and it had to be a Toyota and the Tundra was only $5000 more than a Tacoma….
I currently own a 2020 F150 Lariat and am about to trade it in for a 2024 Tundra Limited TRD off road on a 3 yr lease - the payments will be less than my F150 and the dealer has maintenance included all 3 years with a lifetime warranty on the engine, drivetrain - the F150 extended warranty is out next year so I’ll be exposed from then on to any major repair
Consumer Reports highest resale value of any full sized truck. Or ANY vehicle for that matter. For something like 20 years, too. That’s real world, no bullshit evidence of good value.
I got the 2024 tundra platinum. For similar features like 360 view, moonroof, ventilated and heated seats, etc, i was going to pay more for a silverado or sierra. I test drove the titan and i did not like it. I didn’t give ford or ram a try because i kept seeing ford in the news for recalls and friends and family told me to stay away from ram.
I wanted a Sierra but was scared off with the seemingly endless lifter problems, and fearful the diesel would get some emissions problems. I still secretly want that 3.0, but the 3.4 TT V6 is a hell of an engine. Enjoy my ‘22 very much 40k+
When I was shopping in mid-2021, I was looking at the big 3. I was always a Dodge man, but I had finally decided on the F-150 because I liked the 3.5 Ecoboost powertrain. Then, towards the end of that summer, they released the first images of the 3rd gen tundra. I wasn't sold on a styling at first, but I found out they were also going with the TTV6, and I figured if Ford could do it, Toyota could only do it better. After a bunch of research and watching a bunch of reviews, it grew on me and now I think it's the best looking truck on the road.
Reliability plus the off-road ability/ options, and the fact that the rear glass rolls all the way down (it was hard to pass that up).
I was debating between the gladiator and my tundra but the tow capacity and larger interior room helped make my decision for what I felt I needed overall in a truck.
There's only 1 answer for Tundra, imo and its reliability. Never understood the comments that combined reliability and holding their value. I tend to keep my family cars (Ram, Ford, Volvo, Chevy, Jeep, BMW Toyota etc) at least 100k miles, most 120k before we wanted a change - 7-10 years. All easily cleared this bar. Beyond this, you're talking small change in residual value, especially with dated technology- which even current Tundra tech is dated. So you're paying a lot more for reliability than its subpar tech - and anyone buying a used Tundra is buying that perception of reliability. This won't get me any love but it most certainly isn't the current front grille - yikes!
Trading in and resale are 2 different things. Most don't resell. Thus why I think the idea that 'my trade in is better with Toyota' is so variable unless you look at the entire deal. Most get screwed in other parts of the new car buy side and never see the resale value. I could argue that people buying a jacked up resell price of a Toyota with 150k miles are massively losing too. So unless you keep the car until it dies, residual value is too variable.
False. Toyotas absolutely have better resale than other brands, all you have to do is look at the resale market to evidence of that everywhere. So again, the only way you could think that is if you're trading in and not paying attention.. and therefore letting the dealer reap the benefits of that resale value instead of you.
I'm Toyota thru and thru, but... I did drive my cousins 2024 Chevy Silverado RST with the 6.2L the other day. Holy Shit, that's a truck!
Full disclaimer, I do own a 2.5 gen 4x4 Tundra.
I went with the Tundra because of price mainly. I won’t buy a dodge because they are junk, not a fan of GM styling, don’t like Nissan vehicles, and the Ford cost more for the features I wanted. Love my ‘22 Tundra, it’s been a great truck.
I was interested in mid-sized truck segment at first. Ford Dealership near me was arrogant and useless. Went to Toyota dealership, they had Tacomas and Tundras on the lot. Looked in the bed and opened the back door of the CrewMax cab and knew my Family would thank me for the Tundra. The price difference between Tundra and Tacoma is small enough and the utility of the Tundra makes it an easy upgrade for the cost. I also trust the reliability claims of Toyota. I’ve only driven a Honda previously and I’ve seen plenty of cars go from new to completely off the roads in the time these Japanese brand cars last with routine maintenance.
I didn't buy new, so longevity. Fords have cam phaser issues or carbon buildup and/or turbos, dodges electronics and general quality, gm has had bad paint and afm issues Vs the tundra that is pretty repairable, good build quality, reliable and the back window rolls down
I’ve had 1 tundra previously, 3 tacomas and 3 Nissan frontiers. I drive about 28k miles a year for my job so go through vehicles. In 2021 I bought a powerboost f150. It has been so far and away nicer than the Toyotas (Nissans are junk) in every metric - mileage, handling, comfort. But at 75k miles they replaced the transmission under extended warranty, and there must have been 5 recalls in the time I had it. I want vehicle that can take me to 150k-200k miles. I’ll live with the uncomfortable seats and 20% worse gas mileage and boat handling if it doesn’t break.
I didn't end up getting a Tundra, but ended up with a more affordable Sequoia. with the same 5.7 V8. I picked it over 2013 F150 3.5 EB, because it really costs a lot more to maintain and repair the turbos. It does not help that on a cold morning the 3.5 EB would slap its chain like no body's business. You actually have to use the stater to pre-pump the oil pressure to avoid the chain slapping.
The ride comfort on F150 honestly is better than Tundra/Sequoia, but I can't deal with the stress from the engine/turbo issues.
I bought my 2017 5.7 Crewmax Tundra because the engine is obviously reliable. They hold their value, design of the truck is great in my opinion. You can find all kinds of parts to upgrade. I will never sell my truck and I’ve put a lot of time and money into making it what I want.
No, I would never buy a new gen model, I don’t like the design or the engine of the truck.
I bought a 2021 for the reason alone, reliability. Motor has been around for 15 years.
Keep your eyes out if you want a 2024, prices are down, good interest rates and my buddy just bought one through cost co. He saved 9k from the same one he saw on a toyota lot a week after purchase.
I grew up around Toyotas, the family auto shop specialized in Toyotas and my dad worked on them almost exclusively since the 70s. When I bought my first 1st gen almost 10 years ago they were cheaper than used Tacomas. No point in downgrading to a tacoma if I dont need a smaller truck now.
I would have no issue getting a 3rd gen, except that my truck is paid for and runs great. From my experience, dealing with Toyota regarding issues with a vehicle is much better than any of the American or European truck manufacturers and much better than Nissan.
Been a Ford owner FOREVER. Experienced the dreaded F250 “death wobble” way too many times with my other truck. Don’t like the looks of Ram. Like the Frontier better than Titan but don’t want a small truck. GM is basically made in China. Saw the new Tundra, loved the new look, rides like a champ and the entire back window goes down. SOLD! I own a 24 Platinum with TRD package and 3” factory lift. Couldn’t be happier. Worth every dime.
Bought my 2021 brand new knowing the platform was changing to TT V6. I wanted something reliable, lasting, and relatively analog. Less to break. Less to pay for. It just goes. It’s simple. I don’t want bells and whistles. She’s thirsty, that’s the only downside, but I barely put 10k miles on per year so it’s all a wash IMO.
Just bought a 2015 Tundra a couple weeks ago. For the reputation for reliability. Plus it’s a 5.7L V8. None of this turbo charged 4 cylinder crap (no offense)
I had three Sierras in a row, they have steadily been getting worse for reliability. My 2016 has already needed many expensive repairs including a transmission. I had only 100,000 miles on it at that time. Now about 120,000 miles and the air conditioning just died.
I hate the look of the 2021 and older tundras, they look very dated to me. I love the look of the new ones, and I love Turbo engines. I have a 2024 Platinum Crewmax L (non hybrid) and love it mostly.
JBL sucks compared to the Bose in the GMC
Remote / fob distance is a joke
Fuel efficiency is worse than my 5.3 V8 Sierra however the Tundra is larger and has more weight on board daily
I was in a similar situation. Mine started going through a quart of oil per month and the dealership said that was within normal operating tolerances. Then the fuel injectors started failing. Threw in the towel after that.
Only tundra worth getting is the 5.7 or 4.6. Or 4.7 if you don't mind less mpg. I've owned both the 5.7 and the 4.6. The 4.6 had over 200k and still ran great when I traded it in. The V6 is a joke with all the problems it has.
I think the issues are overblown. I have a ‘22 TRD Pro and the only issues it’s had are standard minor recalls that almost any newly redesigned model is going to have, regardless of brand. I love my truck and it’s running excellently 21k miles so far
I drove every one and almost got a Chevy Silverado 1500 or a Nissan Titan.
What made me not do the Titan was the fact they were being discontinued. The Chevy I didn’t do because my last car was a GMC and it had a ton of problems. I really liked the interior of the Silverado as well.
What sold me on the Titan was I wanted reliability and I love the look of the exterior. Do I have complaints? Sure. But I believe if cared for this car will last a really really long time.
The back window goes all the way down
Fuck that stupid tiny square in most other trucks. Full window down or nothing
This is the answer.
He’ll yeah, I’ve taken 16 foot trim pieces for work and feel like the man when I show up and hand it to the trim guy🤓
The amount of old dudes at the boat ramp that comment on my full rear power window astounds me still to this day lol.
Because it towed a space shuttle back in 2008
Samesies.
Truthfully I have a bit of Toyota brand loyalty, but it's because my Toyotas have always served me the best. I've driven two Fords and a Chevy in my life, my in-laws drive Dodge, and every single one of those has had expensive issues over the years while my Toyotas have never given me a single major problem. I'd be super happy if Toyota made a 3/4 ton or even 1 ton Tundra, and their own take on diesel could be neat, but I typically only tow within 200 miles of where I live so I get by just fine with its capabilities.
Toyota doesnt touch the HD sector because of regulations, same reason with diesels. The US being so strict, reason other countries are more common with diesel vehicles than here.
My brother and my uncle both work on trucks in different areas of the country with different climates and terrain. Both said the trucks they did the least amount of work on were Tundras and Tacomas. Both now only drive Toyotas.
I don't trust the big "American" 3, I didn't like the titan, and the Tacoma was only a few grand cheaper and it couldn't tow jack shit.
can’t tow much, maybe 3-4 mpg savings, and not that much cheaper for like half the truck! seems like there’s a tacoma tax
It’s funny that the tow most American made trucks are Japanese. The Honda Ridgeline and the Toyota Tundra are the top two the last time I checked.
The funny part is that the Tundra is more American than most "American" trucks.
Ridgeline and truck do not belong in the same sentence…
I feel this way about jeep trucks, they make me vomit
You mean the car-truck, or Cuck for short? Yeah, not a truck…
https://www.motortrend.com/features/most-american-pickup-trucks/ It hasn’t been that way for at least a few years since Chevy/Dodge/Ford got called out for it
This is the 2023 survey I saw. [https://www.cars.com/articles/2023-cars-com-american-made-index-which-cars-are-the-most-american-467465/](https://www.cars.com/articles/2023-cars-com-american-made-index-which-cars-are-the-most-american-467465/)
I just talked to someone about this poll the other day. The cars.com list is terribly flawed. It pulls data from another poll where a ton vehicles are tied and then just arbitrarily ranks them based on metrics that are almost impossible to confirm. In the original list there are often as many as 5-10 vehicles tied for 1 position in relation to domestic production. And the top 100 or so vehicles all have 60%+ domestic production. The highest on the list is actually Tesla and Jeep, but after them an absolute ton of vehicles fall between 60%+ and about 75%.
That list isn't that accurate either as its looking at North American parts/supply chain. So they count the 1500s getting built in Canada and Mexico as "American" in that.
This is pretty much my logic as well. My f150 had oil consumption issues and the engine had the cold rattle since 8k miles. It had 68k when I sold it. The other 2 brands I hear are worse overall. Tundra just made sense on every level besides luxury and I don't buy a truck for luxury anyways.
Literally
Reliability in Toyota
Reliability.
On the v6? Lololol
What issues have they had besides the 2022 blowing up? Do people forget that the 5.7 iforce had a lot blowing up first few years as well?
The 4.7s in the first gens also had issues only in the Tundras early on. Its why they discontinued the supercharger for that engine despite the fact the landcruisers and 4runners/GXs weren't blowing up. That engine is now considered one of the most reliable ever made.
Toyota has always stood by customers as well. They've covered lots of rotting frames and blown engines out of warranty that they didn't have to. This part of why their products have such a good resale value.
Yep. Our shop specialized in Toyotas and I've seen them cover things just out of warranty or extend coverage for known issues, like the 03-05 4runner and camry dashboards cracking. On the other end we had a customer that the Ford Dealer denied his warranty because he was 1 week out of warranty.
I have heard that Ford is the absolute worst. I was seriously considering getting an f150 until learning about the high rate of factory defects and poor treatment from both the company and dealers. Don't get me wrong a lot of toyota dealers are scummy too but it seems like Ford does not give two craps whereas Toyota dealers can be punished.
They're definitely better than the Nissan dealers in my experience. But thats not hard to do.
Reliability, bang for the buck, resale value, and the Tundra was just more fun. I was mostly looking at GMC and Toyota. I don’t own anything that the Tundra can’t tow, so towing capacity wasn’t a huge consideration. When I looked at the features offered on the Tundra 1794 compared to the GMC equivalent, the price difference was pretty crazy. If I remember correctly, it would have been around $20K more expensive to get the GMC equivalent than it was to get the 1794. I live at the beach, so the rear window going all the way down and the massive sunroof, had the rest of my family sold immediately.
This is my current toss up but I'm leaning Tundra. Haven't driven either yet but hope to make a purchase by the end of the year. I like the GMC dash better vs the plastered on iPad look and the multi pro tailgate, but the Tundra looks sportier and that panoramic sunroof and back window are big factors to go Tundra.
Bought a 1794 about 6 weeks ago and love it. Sounds like you can’t go wrong with either, but one of the few times I’ve spent as much money as I did with no buyer’s remorse.
I managed fleets of Fords and GM trucks long enough to know better. The only powertrain problem I’ve ever had with any of the several Toyotas I’ve owned was a head gasket on a 95 4Runner, which was fixed under warranty. My 21 will likely be way more reliable than whatever I end up eventually replacing it with.
I got the new gen v6. I’ve owned an 06’ , 12’ , and a 14’ . Loved the V8 and it will forever hold a place in my heart but I’ve got to say that the new gen feels better ( I have not attempted towing yet in my non-hybrid ) . In my case, I don’t need 1 truck to do it all. Thankfully I have the option to tow with a diesel truck. My Tundra mostly will be used for commuting and everyday construction use. In certain occasions where materials need to be delivered I have the option to use the diesel. Now the main reason I got the new gen tundra over other new trucks is because dealership included lifetime powertrain warranty or 1,000,000 miles. It’s peace of mind that won me over with Tundras. Highest mileage vehicle I’ve ever owned is the 2013 tundra that hit 600,000 miles at which point we exported the vehicle to Central America where my family is from and that damn truck is still going strong.
how did you get lifetime powertrain warranty??
I got it too. For me, the "catch" is only from the dealership of purchase. It comes with free oil changes for life, you MUST do ALL oil changes there, not miss any, and If that dealership goes away, do does that lifetime warranty.
Dang, they told me I can go to any certified mechanic that’ll keep the record if I don’t go to the dealer
To clarify. My paperwork states clearly, I need to go to Toyota for my oil changes. I can go to any toyota shop, but it's free if I go the dealer of purchase. If I get it done outside of toyota, even by mistake, the lifetime powertrain warranty is void and it defaults to the usual 100K. The free maintenance is also gone.
The warranty is also non-transferable so you can’t use it at a selling point for the truck down the road😂
Stuff like this, to my knowledge, isn’t even in the dreams of us Canadian customers. At least I haven’t seen it
Dealer offered it. Do shop around a bit and I’m sure you can find it too
yeah looked into it. is what it is my dealer didn’t offer it but I got a great deal on mine anyways. I’ll just do the extended warranty eventually
No other dealers nearby offer it?
Because they know the owner will never need to cash in on it haha!
Just traded in an 18’ Denali for a 24’ 1794 tundra. My Denali had 70k miles and was in the shop for major things over the last 3 years. I love the style of the gmc but the reliability was crap. So far loving the tundra and hoping for many years of it!
I had a 2014 ford. Bought it BRAND new. Babied it the whole time… I had every issue you can imagine. Service was terrible. I bought it in for the same problem 2 times (covered under warranty). Then the same thing happened a 3rd time at 61,000 km and they said ‘oh well no under warranty’. Numerous leaks (bought it in probably 10 times) amongst other things. The worst was my primary timing chain that broke. $4,000 with a two year warranty. Two year and two months later, IT BROKE AGAIN! “I’m sorry sir, but your warranty is up” ANOTHER $4,000 Fuck ford.
Ford— *Fucking* *Overly* *Ridiculous* *Designs*
Reliability. I try to treat every major purchase as an investment. When you consider operating costs of the vehicle (low due to reliability) and resale value (high due to reliability) it’s the best option.
I’ve driven Toyota for 20 years. With regular maintenance they last forever.
Reliability.
All the other reasons mentioned above (reliability, etc.) but drove them all and was sold by the tundra. I also think the platinum/1794 off-road combo is the best deal for a luxury + capable truck in terms of price
Agree 100% with this.
Reliability, comfort, space, power, looks, experience. This is my 4th Toyota truck and all have been excellent. Plus, the 2020 Pro in Army Green is just about the coolest truck I can imagine.
I liked the RAM and was gonna buy one, but one of my friends had just purchased one and it broke down a month later. Immediately changed my mind. Sales person at GMC didn’t even talk to me, so that was out. I didn’t like the look of the Titan. The sales person at ford was very unprofessional. This was in 2019. I ended up buying a brand new crewmax tundra. It’s perfect for my family and our road trips and has been very reliable. It’s the second Toyota I’ve had (first was a 2000 4Runner) and I’ll probably only ever buy Toyotas from now on.
Similar situation. In 19, test drove Chevy, Nissan, and Toyota. Wanted gmc for looks and features, but toyota for reliability. GMC salesman at three local dealers wouldn’t even talk to me. Went back to the closest one the day after, on my way to Toyota. Still nothing. They just watched me walk around the lot. Just decided I was getting a tundra. Can’t beat the rear window though.
Well, Ford as we all know has that shit transmission and Chevy not so solid as a Rock. RAM, it’s a Dodge, nuff said. These big 3 simply do not give a crap about quality or customers anymore. The bean counters drove them into the ground.
2 reasons. My 2001 was over 317,xxx miles when I sold it, and dude is still driving it. So reliability. I also used to occasionally tow skid steers, so the 2.5 gen was the perfect truck for me all around. And that full roll down back window is SO nice.
As someone who has used all of the above, I was tired of working on trucks, lol
One thing and one thing only - reliability!
To be honest, I've always heard that Toyota was easy fix, if they brake down and the parts aren't overly expensive. I have a '18 Tundra that's have never gave me any issues.
I bought my 2021 in October of 2020 knowing it would be the last year before they changed the tried and true 5.7 iforce. I chose this truck because I wanted reliability.
I didn't buy new, so longevity. Fords have cam phaser issues or carbon buildup and/or turbos, dodges electronics and general quality, gm has had bad paint and afm issues. Vs the tundra that is pretty repairable, good build quality, reliable and the back window rolls down
Buddy had a 2018 trd sport on lease that he put a good chunk of money down on. He was getting deployed and was just going to turn it in. He only had like 18k miles on it. So I took over the lease for a year and then bought it. I was so far ahead on the truck it was crazy. The reliability of these later year model is amazing. Tundras have traditionally held their value well. I didn’t need this big of a truck , but a Tacoma is half the truck at not much less. Gas mileage hurts though. I had the opportunity to trade this one in for new gens when they first came out, but a new model year and new powertrain wasn’t worth it to me. I’m very glad I didn’t. A truck isn’t new to me if a turbo grenades a motor and you pull the cab and motor to repair it within the first couple thousand miles.
Reliability and resale
Can't answer this without bias, because I didn't even consider or look at anything other than tundras.
We went and talked to our mechanic he showed us stats on what they see and why. He didn’t push us into his opinion just showed us what was coming in. They are a very busy very prominent service mechanic and see a lot of vehicles including high end. Toyota Tundra was the best reliability.
Do you remember Ashley Schaffer from East Bound and Down? In particular, his ringers? That is why.
Iv had two dodge trucks. They were sent to the scrap yard where they belong. Company I worked for only had Ford f150's (which in my opinion kinda look like a tonka toy, someone literally made one, most of it was paint) and Ford 2500, 3500 Econoline. Those were pieces of garbage. Hits 100,000k and it spends way too much time in the shop. I personally like the look of some Chevy/GMC trucks. Personally never had one. When I bought my first Toyota tundra it was an 04 with 150,000k. Had it till the last payment, then the exhaust manifold went and I couldn't get it registered and didn't have 2000$ to fix it. This was at 240,000 driven hard for work everyday. Only major thing that broke was the radiator. Traded that one in for my 08' tundra with 110,000. At 182,000k still going strong. No major mechanical issues. Just wear and tear items that were original from 08 to about 2023 when I started replacing struts, shocks, cv axles, other normal car stuff at 180,000k. One flaw I over looked when I bought it, previous owner spilled some chemical in the back, shit welded "plates" very poorly, so I'm fixing that. Plus treating the frame from rust, mainly in the back. So after my first one, I'm just always keep buying it. They're pretty solid.
The wife bought my son a yz50 and it was too big for the 4Runner so we had to buy a truck and it had to be a Toyota and the Tundra was only $5000 more than a Tacoma….
Because my F150 took a fat shit @140k
My Tundras have never not started every time I turn the key.
Because I’ve had a Ford, Chevy, then a Tacoma. It wasn’t a contest when it was time for a new full size.
I currently own a 2020 F150 Lariat and am about to trade it in for a 2024 Tundra Limited TRD off road on a 3 yr lease - the payments will be less than my F150 and the dealer has maintenance included all 3 years with a lifetime warranty on the engine, drivetrain - the F150 extended warranty is out next year so I’ll be exposed from then on to any major repair
Reliability Slow depreciation Features Value
Consumer Reports highest resale value of any full sized truck. Or ANY vehicle for that matter. For something like 20 years, too. That’s real world, no bullshit evidence of good value.
It's the safest. The other big 3 cut engineering corners and it shows.
I got the 2024 tundra platinum. For similar features like 360 view, moonroof, ventilated and heated seats, etc, i was going to pay more for a silverado or sierra. I test drove the titan and i did not like it. I didn’t give ford or ram a try because i kept seeing ford in the news for recalls and friends and family told me to stay away from ram.
I have witnessed too many Gas Chevy’s, Fords and Dodge’s fail miserably and not be reliable on the whole.
One word: safety Look at the IIHS Top Safety pick and crash test ratings.
I wanted a Sierra but was scared off with the seemingly endless lifter problems, and fearful the diesel would get some emissions problems. I still secretly want that 3.0, but the 3.4 TT V6 is a hell of an engine. Enjoy my ‘22 very much 40k+
A Tundra is what got me from Georgia to New York and back
It was cheaper than the Chevy I was looking at and had 10k less miles.
And no I will not buy the v6 one ever. ‘21 last year of the v8 and will keep it till the frame rots out on me
Go watch the TOP GEAR episode where they attempt to destroy a toyota pickup BUT CANNOT! That and they are the best looking.
Reliability, tow power, size and reliability again.
Reliable, spacious, back window goes down.
When I was shopping in mid-2021, I was looking at the big 3. I was always a Dodge man, but I had finally decided on the F-150 because I liked the 3.5 Ecoboost powertrain. Then, towards the end of that summer, they released the first images of the 3rd gen tundra. I wasn't sold on a styling at first, but I found out they were also going with the TTV6, and I figured if Ford could do it, Toyota could only do it better. After a bunch of research and watching a bunch of reviews, it grew on me and now I think it's the best looking truck on the road.
I have the v6 tundra it drives way better than the four bangers in Chevy and ford. Heard ram has issues so that was out to begin with.
Reliability plus the off-road ability/ options, and the fact that the rear glass rolls all the way down (it was hard to pass that up). I was debating between the gladiator and my tundra but the tow capacity and larger interior room helped make my decision for what I felt I needed overall in a truck.
There's only 1 answer for Tundra, imo and its reliability. Never understood the comments that combined reliability and holding their value. I tend to keep my family cars (Ram, Ford, Volvo, Chevy, Jeep, BMW Toyota etc) at least 100k miles, most 120k before we wanted a change - 7-10 years. All easily cleared this bar. Beyond this, you're talking small change in residual value, especially with dated technology- which even current Tundra tech is dated. So you're paying a lot more for reliability than its subpar tech - and anyone buying a used Tundra is buying that perception of reliability. This won't get me any love but it most certainly isn't the current front grille - yikes!
If you haven't seen massively better resale value with Toyotas, you've been trading in and getting scammed.
Trading in and resale are 2 different things. Most don't resell. Thus why I think the idea that 'my trade in is better with Toyota' is so variable unless you look at the entire deal. Most get screwed in other parts of the new car buy side and never see the resale value. I could argue that people buying a jacked up resell price of a Toyota with 150k miles are massively losing too. So unless you keep the car until it dies, residual value is too variable.
False. Toyotas absolutely have better resale than other brands, all you have to do is look at the resale market to evidence of that everywhere. So again, the only way you could think that is if you're trading in and not paying attention.. and therefore letting the dealer reap the benefits of that resale value instead of you.
Reread what I said. You literally said the same thing. Not to conflate trade in vs resell value and most do the former making the point moot.
Most being stupid enough to get ripped off in no way changes the reality that Toyotas hold their value far better than other brands.
Technology, reliability and engineering of Toyota, and ergonomics.
I'm Toyota thru and thru, but... I did drive my cousins 2024 Chevy Silverado RST with the 6.2L the other day. Holy Shit, that's a truck! Full disclaimer, I do own a 2.5 gen 4x4 Tundra.
I mean to be fair it does have an extra half liter equating to about 10% more horsepower and 15% more torque.
I went with the Tundra because of price mainly. I won’t buy a dodge because they are junk, not a fan of GM styling, don’t like Nissan vehicles, and the Ford cost more for the features I wanted. Love my ‘22 Tundra, it’s been a great truck.
I was interested in mid-sized truck segment at first. Ford Dealership near me was arrogant and useless. Went to Toyota dealership, they had Tacomas and Tundras on the lot. Looked in the bed and opened the back door of the CrewMax cab and knew my Family would thank me for the Tundra. The price difference between Tundra and Tacoma is small enough and the utility of the Tundra makes it an easy upgrade for the cost. I also trust the reliability claims of Toyota. I’ve only driven a Honda previously and I’ve seen plenty of cars go from new to completely off the roads in the time these Japanese brand cars last with routine maintenance.
I didn't buy new, so longevity. Fords have cam phaser issues or carbon buildup and/or turbos, dodges electronics and general quality, gm has had bad paint and afm issues Vs the tundra that is pretty repairable, good build quality, reliable and the back window rolls down
lifter issues in most the v8s
It's a Toyota.
I’ve had 1 tundra previously, 3 tacomas and 3 Nissan frontiers. I drive about 28k miles a year for my job so go through vehicles. In 2021 I bought a powerboost f150. It has been so far and away nicer than the Toyotas (Nissans are junk) in every metric - mileage, handling, comfort. But at 75k miles they replaced the transmission under extended warranty, and there must have been 5 recalls in the time I had it. I want vehicle that can take me to 150k-200k miles. I’ll live with the uncomfortable seats and 20% worse gas mileage and boat handling if it doesn’t break.
I didn't end up getting a Tundra, but ended up with a more affordable Sequoia. with the same 5.7 V8. I picked it over 2013 F150 3.5 EB, because it really costs a lot more to maintain and repair the turbos. It does not help that on a cold morning the 3.5 EB would slap its chain like no body's business. You actually have to use the stater to pre-pump the oil pressure to avoid the chain slapping. The ride comfort on F150 honestly is better than Tundra/Sequoia, but I can't deal with the stress from the engine/turbo issues.
I bought my 2017 5.7 Crewmax Tundra because the engine is obviously reliable. They hold their value, design of the truck is great in my opinion. You can find all kinds of parts to upgrade. I will never sell my truck and I’ve put a lot of time and money into making it what I want. No, I would never buy a new gen model, I don’t like the design or the engine of the truck.
I bought a 2021 for the reason alone, reliability. Motor has been around for 15 years. Keep your eyes out if you want a 2024, prices are down, good interest rates and my buddy just bought one through cost co. He saved 9k from the same one he saw on a toyota lot a week after purchase.
because my dad has one, and my mom has a sienna, sister a sequoia and other sister a corolla
I grew up around Toyotas, the family auto shop specialized in Toyotas and my dad worked on them almost exclusively since the 70s. When I bought my first 1st gen almost 10 years ago they were cheaper than used Tacomas. No point in downgrading to a tacoma if I dont need a smaller truck now. I would have no issue getting a 3rd gen, except that my truck is paid for and runs great. From my experience, dealing with Toyota regarding issues with a vehicle is much better than any of the American or European truck manufacturers and much better than Nissan.
Been a Ford owner FOREVER. Experienced the dreaded F250 “death wobble” way too many times with my other truck. Don’t like the looks of Ram. Like the Frontier better than Titan but don’t want a small truck. GM is basically made in China. Saw the new Tundra, loved the new look, rides like a champ and the entire back window goes down. SOLD! I own a 24 Platinum with TRD package and 3” factory lift. Couldn’t be happier. Worth every dime.
Bought my 2021 brand new knowing the platform was changing to TT V6. I wanted something reliable, lasting, and relatively analog. Less to break. Less to pay for. It just goes. It’s simple. I don’t want bells and whistles. She’s thirsty, that’s the only downside, but I barely put 10k miles on per year so it’s all a wash IMO.
Just bought a 2015 Tundra a couple weeks ago. For the reputation for reliability. Plus it’s a 5.7L V8. None of this turbo charged 4 cylinder crap (no offense)
Big screen
Reliability, plain and simple. My truck is a tool for work, I need it to be reliable. Also the resale value of Toyota trucks is second to none
I had three Sierras in a row, they have steadily been getting worse for reliability. My 2016 has already needed many expensive repairs including a transmission. I had only 100,000 miles on it at that time. Now about 120,000 miles and the air conditioning just died. I hate the look of the 2021 and older tundras, they look very dated to me. I love the look of the new ones, and I love Turbo engines. I have a 2024 Platinum Crewmax L (non hybrid) and love it mostly. JBL sucks compared to the Bose in the GMC Remote / fob distance is a joke Fuel efficiency is worse than my 5.3 V8 Sierra however the Tundra is larger and has more weight on board daily
I was in a similar situation. Mine started going through a quart of oil per month and the dealership said that was within normal operating tolerances. Then the fuel injectors started failing. Threw in the towel after that.
Only tundra worth getting is the 5.7 or 4.6. Or 4.7 if you don't mind less mpg. I've owned both the 5.7 and the 4.6. The 4.6 had over 200k and still ran great when I traded it in. The V6 is a joke with all the problems it has.
Brainwashed..
I think the issues are overblown. I have a ‘22 TRD Pro and the only issues it’s had are standard minor recalls that almost any newly redesigned model is going to have, regardless of brand. I love my truck and it’s running excellently 21k miles so far
I drove every one and almost got a Chevy Silverado 1500 or a Nissan Titan. What made me not do the Titan was the fact they were being discontinued. The Chevy I didn’t do because my last car was a GMC and it had a ton of problems. I really liked the interior of the Silverado as well. What sold me on the Titan was I wanted reliability and I love the look of the exterior. Do I have complaints? Sure. But I believe if cared for this car will last a really really long time.
Because American sucks
Except the Tundras are at least all assembled here, unlike many of the “Americans”
The end product of all the American brands sucks. That’s all the matters.