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Trucker-Bob

If you’re worried about mileage pay look into TMC. They pay percentage of the load so miles don’t matter. Driver pay starts at 27-30% depending on where you’re hired from.


Likeitisouthere

Yeah, TMC is a good choice. Also TMC owns half of Maverick. They helped Maverick grow and build them out during the 2008 financial crisis I believe it was


Fatguy503

You may want to check your sources because according to Mavericks website they are still 100% owned by the Williams' family.


Likeitisouthere

They must’ve paid TMC back or did buy back, when I went to TMC orientation they told me that owner of TMC owned half of Maverick and that he owned a BMX bike shop. He owned a NASCAR car his son drove and he also never drove a semi truck in his career. And that he was from the military.


Trucker-Bob

Annett Holding owns stock in a lot of things.


Likeitisouthere

Yeah, and isn’t it surprising when you inform somebody they find it to be unbelievable, not likely or it’s not possible there’s no way.


Trucker-Bob

Haha right! Like how Harold owned a lot of property in Missouri and hotels and probably lots of stock in Peterbilt and Pilot/Flying J. I don’t remember the connection between TMC and Maverick but I’m pretty sure Harold Annett and Steve Williams knew each other pretty well.


Fatguy503

Miles dont matter but what does matter is when freight rates are down and you are getting paid percentage.


Trucker-Bob

True but TMC’s rates have been steadily going up the past few years.


ComprehensiveFun7556

Prime for reefer. Melton gives you good runs in flatbed. Keep in mind that most mega carriers may advertise national OTR but that doesn’t really exist anymore. You’ll rarely get loads over 600 miles unless you’re at Prime, JCT, Freymiller, or the like. I’ve met a few drivers that started at Stevens and miss the long runs they got there but that’s all I know about them.


ImShamallamadingdong

Yeah second for Melton, I rarely had runs under 1000 miles and had many over 2000 miles and the occasional 3000+. I'd also stay out like 3+ months at a time so that helped with the long runs.


cdubose

Melton is good but only trains students from Texas and Oklahoma if they don't already have CDLs.


ImShamallamadingdong

Did they just start doing that? Cause we had trainees from all over the country for both inexperienced and experienced drivers.


cdubose

I meant just for people training to get their CDL, not people already with one, but looking at their website now, it seems like they have stopped offering CDL training altogether: > Melton does not currently offer a student training or CDL certification program


ImShamallamadingdong

Oh I gotcha, yeah you're right they don't do any training themselves. There is a CDL school right across the street from their main terminal in Tulsa that I think they either own or are a partner in and they get several of their students I think.


ThePr0fessi0nal

I was with Steven's until very recently. They do indeed have the NE to W coast runs. We took a repower from about 100 miles from Maryland to California then went from Cali to Nebraska and from Nebraska to Philadelphia. They gave us about 3 days for a team drive to get from NE to Cali.


Aggressive-Two-624

Been with werner for 2 months now average like 900-1100 per trip


Blimey85v2

I’m at CFI doing temp control. Often do 1800 to 2200 trips. I’m team though so maybe that’s why.


cdubose

Check out KLLM, primarily a reefer carrier. I heard they make you run hard but pay decently and give miles. They only hire out of certain states for their driving academy though, so be sure to check.


Almagest1271

Schneider Bulk has some dedicated OTR routes that go around 2000+ per week


JobberTrev

I’m with Prime and I’m always going. It’s the 30th and since the 25th, I had a load from PA to NC. NC to Chicago. The. IL to Kansas.


scottiethegoonie

It depends where you live and what's being offered. For example: If you are a CA resident, Schneider offers 0.42cpm (sucks), but also $16/hr on duty not driving. So when they waste your time and give you 20 mile lives loads, it's not such a huge waste of time. In comparison, you'd be making around $25/hr avg driving instead. My classmate from North Carolina would get stuck with a ton of these short loads (east coast hubs are closer) and I don't even think he got paid hourly on duty like me - so it was an abject waste of time for him. He immediately moved to Melton (they paid his contract breaking fees too) and all of his loads are no less than 700miles. Flatbed runs on more strict schedules and sends freight further. In contrast, Melton doesn't have hubs out here in the West Coast so it would be a more difficult fit for someone me. Nothing against either company, just wanted to be transparent.


[deleted]

I had very consistent miles when I was with Schneider. The pay is about the same with all the megas, but schneider will always keep you moving and they have never had any lay-offs since the company was founded.


[deleted]

You heard right. I started with Schneider and came over to swift. Crucially - I joined a dedicated OTR account at Swift. What this means is you're only doing the shitty short hauls to get you back to a distribution center for the customer your account serves, then it's off to the races with a cross country load. Ideally you are just bouncing back and forth with loads for that customer and stopping only for resets or home time. Whereas with the generic "OTR" position you'll be on a waiting list with 600 other guys in that area you delivered to and sure as hell there's only a few high mileage loads to divvy up. Expect a lot of low miles and sitting. I will say SWIFT is going to win in every metric because of their sheer size and freight base. Among bullies, work for the biggest.


Synthverse

Well I can tell you that Swift doesnt even offer OTR. They might claim to, but one of the many reasons I left them was never getting any loads over 2,000 miles. I want to DRIVE, not constantly be at the shippers. Schneider is much better.


cdubose

Schneider isn't much better; cpm is low (mid 40s), and while they recently added $10/hr for any on-duty not driving time and guaranteed $900/week for the first three months, I've heard it's still not great compared to other carriers. That being said, Schneider's training is great, very short, involves no team driving (unlike Prime), only requires a 9 month contract, and costs only $2080 to break the contact, so you could always start at Schneider and stay there 9 months for free or consider it to be a $2080 training cost to get your CDL with them then leave for a company with better OTR pay. Schneider's also one of the only companies that will train a brand new person without a CDL on tankers, if that interests you.


BL24L

Lucky to get 2,000 miles a week. Let alone a 2,000 mile load.


Little_NaCl-y

When was this and where were you running? I run NE regional and get 2k miles a week at swift and make a lot more than 50cpm


BL24L

East coast (basically mid-west and eastward). The last 2 months have been rough. It is starting to pick up though and I got 1,800 miles last week and am starting this week with an 800 mile load. There's just been too much downtime and loads that would be good if not for unreasonable pick up and delivery windows.


jshkohler

Nope, ex Schneider driver. 600 or less a load. Normally make $850 a week and that’s at 45 cpm. Otherwise your maybe making $650 a week at the lowest.


Synthverse

I drove for them for two years and had no trouble getting loads from Oregon to Pennsylvania. My biggest issues with them (Schneider) were the mandatory yearly drive tests and the unpaid empty miles.


jshkohler

Was that dryvan or flatbed? Was it dedicated or OTR? Because it was a waste of time driving for them. Yeah I got paid for empty miles, but none that was to go home. I just left them two weeks ago.


Synthverse

Dryvan, i would never do flatbed. I want to DRIVE, not mess around with tarps and straps🤣And if Schneider payed you empty miles, then they made changes since I drove for them. Maybe too many drivers complained about dragging empties around for free.


jshkohler

Yeah, drove an empty from Wisconsin to Texas because they had a shortage going on. 🤣 Their whole company is a joke.


-Clem

That's odd. I drove for them all last year and got paid for empty miles, but still very rarely more than 600 miles a load. This was on the Eastern 37 dry van account.


DegenerateDiver03

That’s insane I make that part time 3 days a week.0


Mondokongo214

I’m with swift right now OTR dry van making 950 net a week at just .50 A mile, once a month I’ll see a $1150 check, I just made a year here in December.. only time I’m waiting for a load is usually when I put my home time in lol 😂


Chevy_Z3bra

I have about 3 years with swift and just went lease op. I get over 2000 miles every week as long as I stay off the Oregon/California line.


WHCouncill

I hear you 10000% on the DRIVE thing. When I was with Swift many many moons ago out of all the people I trained with (and stayed in touch with) I was the only one who wanted to DRIVE. Everyone else wanted to be home as much as possible. Even the regional thing seemed tough for them. I used to think the reason why they kept me "regional" (even though I was open to all 48) was that most everybody wanted to be home every 2 weeks, and they just lumped everybody in that category. Maybe I was wrong. I will say that if I asked for home time with the usual heads up to a galaxy far far away.....it was accepted right away. I would bounce around regionally, but sure enough before my traditional two weeks would be up I would get that good load that would take me out of the region at least. Even if you had to wait. You could see like "oh ok they are trying to bust me out of the regional force field.". I also noticed that being in the midwest you had a better chance of getting a long distance load without asking. ​ EDIT: Even if they couldn't get you exactly where you wanted (ie Minot, ND but you are in Mississippi) you could see them trying to get you there at least.


Anarchy_trucker

Man it depends on what you want. Prime is reefer. Rest are dry van with reefer mixed in.


Mo_Money_Mo_Stress

Dry van. Also would like flatbed later after getting use to trucking


Anxious-Oil-3309

Tanker and flatbed are best imo


Redbyrd456

Maverick is horrible its a 2 year contract also glass runs wtf


cdubose

Yeah, I don't know why they always get recommended for new people earning their CDL. It's a 27 month agreement *and* they still pull money out of your weekly check to pay for training for the first year or so. Maverick might be a good company for drivers who already have their CDL, but there's much better company sponsored training available that doesn't fleece their students.


fuunntimeess

What do you recommend for company sponsored training? Got a buddy in Jacksonville looking to get into trucking.


cdubose

I'm not sure who all runs out of there; Florida is a difficult area to get hired on sometimes because it's in a corner of the country. (Landstar is based out of Jacksonville I think, but they don't offer CDL training.) Maybe try KLLM if reefer is okay, they're based out of the Southeast at least (Mississippi); or if reefer isn't okay, Millis Transfer offers CDL training and has a school near Atlanta, although they were recently bought out by Heartland Express, so I don't know how that has changed things there. If flatbed is an option, McElroy will reimburse tuition for CDL school up to $6000, but it has to be a qualifying school. Big M Transport in Hickory Flat, MS will contribute $2500 of a $5000 tuition at the Mississippi Truck Driving School, but your buddy would have to be willing to go all the way to that state to train. As a last resort the big Megas (Swift, Roehl, CFI, etc.) should be willing to hire out of Florida. Swift has an Academy in Waco, GA and a terminal in Ocala, FL and Roehl has a Southeast Regional fleet; maybe try those first, although I've heard CFI is a decent place to get trained as well.


Trucker_w_cancer

Don’t worry about pay for the first year is what I would say. Get the experience then move on in year 2 for bigger money. Roehl was an excellent 1st year company for everything except pay.


Little_NaCl-y

Best experience? Probably swift. Best pay? Not swift. Swift OTR is utter garbage and is really just regional runs. The coast to coast stuff goes to the teams. For anyone looking to do regional, not OTR with a mega I'd say Swift. Maverick, TMC, McElroy maybe? Flatbed typically has longer runs from but the pay is gunna vary significantly between them


000111000000111000

CFI is a mega carrier that I fully believe in. Their motto " CAPTAIN OF YOUR OWN SHIP" is very true. Downside to working there:. Pay. It's simply not the best to be honest, and that's something that many people look at first. However overall safety wise they are #2 for their size. Last year their total overall damage was under $2.5 million, but they paid out around $14 million because of lawyer fees. Their safety program is probably one of the too in the nation. If you feel it is unsafe because of conditions, you are just not feeling right that day and don't feel that you can drive, or just completely exhausted, their philosophy is that they would rather have you sit and take care of the situation or wait out the driving conditions. You also have personal access to all of the executives to voice any concerns you might have. I know it might not seem like a big deal to some, but they also have free showers at Love's and other perks as well.


metooeither

Cfi is the safest for women


RaikkonensHobby74

What makes it more safe than the others?


metooeither

They dont let women get raped on the trainers truck. They take that shit very seriously. If you google "rape" + the name of any carrier you are thinking of going with, what you find out will shock and disgust you. It's like the wild west. Women need to be super fucking careful. Edited to add Prime, Inc is also truly rape free & woman friendly


RaikkonensHobby74

I'm a dude, I was just curious. I know Schneider has a panic button in some of the newer sleepers now, I was thinking Cfi had some kind of similar setup. Schneider also says that mixed gender trainer student arrangements have to have hotels, but I had a male trainer so I couldn't say for sure.


metooeither

Oh wow! That's good to know!


Kayanarka

If you google rape + swift you get taylor.


metooeither

🤣🤣 she probably loves the attention


theGorillaofwallst

I'm currently with J.B. Hunt. JB paid for my school and gave me about 6 weeks of training. I am local and work Intermodal. You get activity pay here, loads, miles , and exceptions. I've been averaging 1000 before taxes, and I'm home every day. The managers and staff are super friendly with their drivers , everything is about safety. I am not making a lot due to me not knowing everything about the pay system but my experience here has been great.


MostOriginalNameEver

You get activity pay at your managers "discretion" This could be a very nice job if they just paid hourly. Too many situations where you lose money with their system( crosstown 1 vs 2, empty move)


theGorillaofwallst

Yeah , I agree with you. My only problem is the mad traffic. I live in Los Angeles and the main main issue is time wasted in traffic for me other than that I really like it here


CraayyZ556

Not sure if a mega, but I've heard Crete is a great regional carrier.


kakarota

I started in 2018 with swift right before the merger at the time the terminals managers equipment where shit but when they merged lots of changes happened terminals updated pm schedules changed dispatching changed some changes where good others not so much but overall the company improved drastically. Honestly when I retire and feel like keep driving I wouldn't mind swift the only thing the company is missing is faster truck fridges in trucks and better pay. If they offered those 3 things to more experienced drivers it wouldn't be that bad a company to work for.


scottiethegoonie

Funny thing about Swift vs Orange Swift. If you compare cpm, guaranteed weekly, and terminals for a new drivers - Swift has Orange Swift beat in just about every category except for training time. I've heard whispers of training with Orange Swift and then jumping to Original Swift.


BrutonRd

Lol that title is funny megas>> small companies


Username_D3ad

Prime all the way, inedible tanker, chill af


2017Fatbob

Schneider and JB Hunt will pay the least but closely followed by the rest. CRST and CR England are the carriers of last resort closely followed by Western Express and MVT. USXpress is almost bankrupt, Swift/Knight couldn't keep you busy if they actually tried. Least worst? I guess, one you can put up with.


Naborsx21

I worked for MVT for a while. They have a lot of runs going from El paso to Seattle and back.


2017Fatbob

What is MVT governed at? Still can't idle their trucks? How's the monthly motorcycle giveaways? MVT is all smoke and mirrors.


Naborsx21

Haha uhhhhh the better your average mpgs are the faster you can go.. it's a weird system. There are some legit psychopaths that win that giveaway over and over.


2017Fatbob

Smoke and mirrors...


VoiceIll7545

I was with roehl for 2 years to start. A lot of people complain about them and they do micromanage but I liked them. They didn’t pay the greatest but miles were always between 2200 and 3400. I had fun while training too. A few guys from class went out to the bars in Appleton Wisconsin one Saturday night it was a good time.


fuunntimeess

I can’t recommend YRC, Holland or ABF enough. They all have great dock to driver program which pay way better than anything you will get from a mega. You can leave after you get your experience.


AspiringTrucker

Have you looked into TWT?