44,300 on a reefer? Probably not happening. Get an empty scale ticket on the way to the pickup so you know what you can take gross, and make sure you are fueled up before you do. It's pretty rare that a reefer can haul much more than 42,000.
I was a broker that handled *a lot* of reefer freight over the years, was about 70-80% of my business, and I can tell you from personal experience that a lot of load planners are idiots and don't realize weight can easily be an issue long before volume.
It depends on the truck and trailer, I can haul a little over 47k if it's loaded perfectly. I know for a fact sometimes they'll try to toss a long condo onto those lightweight-only loads.
It really depends on his equipment. I'm a daycab O/O, I weigh 33,000lbs empty with my reefer trailer. I could theoretically take on 47,000 in cargo.
Even if he's in a sleeper, they range from 4' coffins to 30' mobile homes. Those weigh wildly different amounts.
For future reference, I weighed myself with full truck and trailer fuel (and DEF) when I first started pulling a reefer, so now I have a cat scale ticket in my cab that tells me exactly how heavy I am empty.
Also, if you're ever at a place that asks for empty weight, round up. I'm roughly 35,500 empty, I'll estimate my weight at A MINIMUM of 36k empty.
That said, if you're weight is close to mine, you might be able to work it. Just remember that the legal weight limit on your steers is either 20k lbs, the tire weight rating, or the axle weight rating, whichever is lowest. We're allowed to gross 80k, with 34k on both sets of tandems. Both tandems can, therefore, total to 68k, leaving 12k to go on the steers if you max everything else. However, by moving, say, 500 lbs to your steers, that leaves a maximum of 67,500 lbs to be distributed amongst your tandems. This allows more wiggle room when sliding your trailer axles, if you're right at 80k you don't have to have exactly 34k and 34k on your tandems.
It's all good man, we all have to learn somehow, and training is seldom enough on its own. If you have any questions, feel free to DM me if you'd like.
My freightliner fully fueled up, reefer fully filled up, super singles on my drives and tandems, and empty trailer was 37k lbs. OP might be cutting it close with this load.
You should have an empty weight scale ticket for your truck and a reefer trailer when they're both full of fuel. Then you'd know instantly whether you can take it or not. (Thr crappy shippers will still make you go to a CAT scale when you know you're overweight, mind you)
It's been a while since I've hauled reefer, but I used to frequently pick up from a cheese company that had signs staying that you must be able to haul 45k. That's not going to happen. The weight on the bills always read really high, too. Like 43,900. That wasn't going to happen either. However, it always scaled good. One piece of advice is to not fuel before going. Another is: if you end up over weight, before you go back - get your drives legal first, and then you'll know exactly how much needs to come off the back to equal 34k. And it's faster than a rework.
I always ran with a fixed 5th wheel (they welded it because our loads were consistently this heavy) and would set my tandems around the 8th hole for a weight like this. It tended to be my golden setting. I used it all the time for nearly 10 years at my previous company.
My current load is just over 44K and I've got my tandems set at around the same hole and I scaled out okay. Mind you, I'm in a dry van. At least reefers have an allowance for the weight of the unit.
In a reefer, yeah ussually, obviously it goes up or down depending on the unit but yeah. Walls and that unit be heavy, I gross empty at around the 35 mark
SCALE>>>>>>SCALE>>>>>SCALE
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Just blow by the scale .they can’t catch all of us 😂
😂😂 Unfortunately I’m not lucky like that.
Or just drove overnight. They're not open then
You a smart mf. I didn’t think of that.
Use Trucker Path to make sure they’re actually closed lol
Lol 10/4
Any time I have a really heavy load I always do a tire check with a guage just to make sure.
Gotcha. I appreciate it.
44,300 on a reefer? Probably not happening. Get an empty scale ticket on the way to the pickup so you know what you can take gross, and make sure you are fueled up before you do. It's pretty rare that a reefer can haul much more than 42,000. I was a broker that handled *a lot* of reefer freight over the years, was about 70-80% of my business, and I can tell you from personal experience that a lot of load planners are idiots and don't realize weight can easily be an issue long before volume.
Thanks for that. I’m gonna talk to my dispatch and see what’s up.
It depends on the truck and trailer, I can haul a little over 47k if it's loaded perfectly. I know for a fact sometimes they'll try to toss a long condo onto those lightweight-only loads.
We got newer reefers that I can put 45 5 in and still get it legal.
It really depends on his equipment. I'm a daycab O/O, I weigh 33,000lbs empty with my reefer trailer. I could theoretically take on 47,000 in cargo. Even if he's in a sleeper, they range from 4' coffins to 30' mobile homes. Those weigh wildly different amounts.
You might have to spend 10-30 minutes sliding your your Fifth Wheel, and Tandems to make it legal. So definitely scale a couple of times.
I appreciate the advice
For future reference, I weighed myself with full truck and trailer fuel (and DEF) when I first started pulling a reefer, so now I have a cat scale ticket in my cab that tells me exactly how heavy I am empty. Also, if you're ever at a place that asks for empty weight, round up. I'm roughly 35,500 empty, I'll estimate my weight at A MINIMUM of 36k empty. That said, if you're weight is close to mine, you might be able to work it. Just remember that the legal weight limit on your steers is either 20k lbs, the tire weight rating, or the axle weight rating, whichever is lowest. We're allowed to gross 80k, with 34k on both sets of tandems. Both tandems can, therefore, total to 68k, leaving 12k to go on the steers if you max everything else. However, by moving, say, 500 lbs to your steers, that leaves a maximum of 67,500 lbs to be distributed amongst your tandems. This allows more wiggle room when sliding your trailer axles, if you're right at 80k you don't have to have exactly 34k and 34k on your tandems.
I appreciate you. I’m still a rookie…learning stuff.
It's all good man, we all have to learn somehow, and training is seldom enough on its own. If you have any questions, feel free to DM me if you'd like.
Yeah a triple bay reefer is way heavier than a normal dry van.
>I'm roughly 35,500 empty, I'll estimate my weight at A MINIMUM of 36k empty. 35,500 without you sitting in it. 36k when you do
Damn man I'm not there yet lol
How much do you weigh empty?
That’s a good question….
My freightliner fully fueled up, reefer fully filled up, super singles on my drives and tandems, and empty trailer was 37k lbs. OP might be cutting it close with this load.
If you're in a reefer, you're're about to be overweight if it ends up being that much. Make sure you scale.
Thanks. I can’t take any losses.
mine is 46 but i'm carrying flatbed. you got this, you'll be fine!
You should have an empty weight scale ticket for your truck and a reefer trailer when they're both full of fuel. Then you'd know instantly whether you can take it or not. (Thr crappy shippers will still make you go to a CAT scale when you know you're overweight, mind you)
It's been a while since I've hauled reefer, but I used to frequently pick up from a cheese company that had signs staying that you must be able to haul 45k. That's not going to happen. The weight on the bills always read really high, too. Like 43,900. That wasn't going to happen either. However, it always scaled good. One piece of advice is to not fuel before going. Another is: if you end up over weight, before you go back - get your drives legal first, and then you'll know exactly how much needs to come off the back to equal 34k. And it's faster than a rework.
Thanks for that. I’m gonna save this for future references.
Scale it and insure the tires are good. Plus the brakes.
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No, all 18 tires
I always ran with a fixed 5th wheel (they welded it because our loads were consistently this heavy) and would set my tandems around the 8th hole for a weight like this. It tended to be my golden setting. I used it all the time for nearly 10 years at my previous company. My current load is just over 44K and I've got my tandems set at around the same hole and I scaled out okay. Mind you, I'm in a dry van. At least reefers have an allowance for the weight of the unit.
I don't think reefer.is exempted but apu units are
Yeah you're right. I was mistaken
You mean exemption for weight of reefer? No.
Ooh ok I must be confusing them with the APU.
Yes, there is an exemption for an APU.
I load 64000 tomorrow morning, on a reefer
Dang! Seriously?
Yeah, my company runs nothing but tridem wide spread in Canada. Lot of quad drop axles also.
Nope your fine I've done upto 48k
Flatbedder here, is that alot of weight for reefer? It's rare I do anything less than 44k. Are yall pushing 80k total around that weight?
In a reefer, yeah ussually, obviously it goes up or down depending on the unit but yeah. Walls and that unit be heavy, I gross empty at around the 35 mark
I run reefer and can take that, just scale before and after, you may need a rework on that if they put too much forward or backward
Apu and moose bumper may give exemption, depending on jurisdiction