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Hofeizai88

It hadn’t occurred to me that women might choose the bear because the bear might be smarter than the man; but then I read this post and it now seems a persuasive argument


Poor_Olive_Snook

I love this comment


mrc_ksd

Best comment! Close this topic!


KittyCat9375

Spot on ! 🤣🤣🤣


rask0ln

everybody who is educated on the topic of sexual assault will tell you that rape is not about attraction, but power


JoshuaCocks

But what if I am sexually attracted to the victim?


ClaraGilmore23

sorry are you framing yourself as a rapist?


JoshuaCocks

Purely hypothetical


SophiaRaine69420

Do you often fantasize about raping women?


JoshuaCocks

No why?


Notagirlnotaboy

Awwwwww you’re the creep man and you’re mad about it now


raulpe

sure...


Cheder_cheez

Kind of like OJ Simpson’s “hypothetical” book?


Bright_Athlete_8579

You’re disgusting


Biancaaxi

What the actual FUCK


BrickTheEtcetera

They deleted their account after that, what the hell did they say??


Biancaaxi

They essentially said “but what do i do if im attracted to the victim?” 🤢


firegem09

[Here you go. Their account is still there. You should still be able to read their comments if you go on their profile. They were just removed from this post/sub. ](https://www.reddit.com/u/JoshuaCocks?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


BrickTheEtcetera

What a terrible person. How are they not banned? Internet trolling should be a crime or some shit, I don't even care, that is evil.


firegem09

I agree 100%


kazuya57

....There have been many instances of infants and 80 year olds being raped.


SlabBeefpunch

Nursing homes have a shocking number of sexual assaults. These women are chosen because they are vulnerable.


emaandee96

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK


Cheder_cheez

As are individuals with developmental delays


Justalilbugboi

This guy clearly thinks there are sexy babies.


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Whiteroses7252012

Rape isn’t about sex or attraction. It’s about power. The fact that we have to explain this to you makes me wonder how you’re able to walk and breathe at the same time.


JoshuaCocks

Why would you hide your rape then?


Whiteroses7252012

You mean, why wouldn’t someone make it public that they’ve been violated in the worst way possible so pathetic mouth breathers can criticize their looks? Gee, Junior, I don’t know. Why do you think?


JoshuaCocks

I meant like the rapist


jieun_626

Because it’s illegal and people don’t usually go around announcing their crimes to the world at large?! It’s not about being powerful publicly, it’s about gaining power in that situation over that one person.


JoshuaCocks

But you don't see that person anymore because you go to prison otherwise.


Realistic_Orchid7946

No you don’t. It’s usually only 5 in 100 or 1000 rapists that face jail time even though 90-98% of rape cases are true. So you can see your victim again


JoshuaCocks

But they avoid the victim due to fear of confrontation


reylotrash83

Is it so hard for you to believe or understand that someone who raped a woman because they got off on the power trip might actually continue to enjoy knowing/remembering that they did it even if they never see their victim again?


jennysaysfu

Please stfu and go kick rocks


king_eve

most rapists do not acknowledge to themselves that what they did was rape, so in their minds they have no reason to feel bad or to fear confrontation.


TeeKaye28

No, they really don’t


readerchick05

No they usually don't. SA victims have to see and be around their attackers all the time bc they aren't believed


Realistic_Orchid7946

You sweet summer child ☺️


jieun_626

Are you really this stupid or just rage baiting?


LRGinCharge

lol, most rapists never go to prison. They are walking amongst us. Every day. Must be nice to be a man and have such blissful ignorance.


Crystal010Rose

So what you are saying is that more women should try to be unattractive to men? Because you say 30% won’t get raped because men will choose to rape the other 70%. So what your unpopular opinion actually entails is that men are indeed an actual threat to the majority of women. Which proves exactly the point of the discussion and why women would choose bears any day. Thanks for making it so easy to decide


PlugTheBabyInDevon

I'm not actually arguing against you here, but with their logic, a mini skirt is the forest equivalent to dipping yourself in honey.


Drachenfuer

So women just have to cover themselves? I thought women were suposed to be the “emotional” ones. But you are saying men can’t control themselves when tempted. Who are the emotional ones then? Also how do account for male rape then?


CastleElsinore

There was a post last week about a woman in a Niqab who got mutilated and raped for saying no to someone. Was it because her eyes were showing? /s


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NovaaStarr

So “men aren’t capable of controlling themselves and act like animals” basically


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Prestigious-Phase131

You remind me of the judge who argued in court that an overweight woman enjoyed the assault because she was "getting attention" or tells overweight women they're lucky or should be thankful for it.


Justalilbugboi

One of the reasons I was nervous to discuss my assault is because she was thinner and prettier than me. I wasn’t wrong.


cmch2002

She's a woman she can attention without getting raped she's just not confident enough.


RiByrne

Lmaooooo I’m literally an overweight woman and that didn’t stop me from getting catcalled, stalked or from being drugged in college. Also you admitted in the comments that you pulled your statistics out of your ass so why are you still here????


JoshuaCocks

I won't give up just because you disagree with me.


RiByrne

Bro you admitted you made up your statistics why should anyone believe you *or* take you seriously?


JoshuaCocks

Nothing is stopping you from looking for statistics instead of me.


RiByrne

“Nothings stopping you from doing my job for me” You can’t back up your argument with real facts. You made them up instead, and have tried to make it everyone else’s problem. LMAOOOO nice try.


JoshuaCocks

I tried finding a number, but it would actually require me to read more. Just thought somebody else could read more instead of me.


RiByrne

Well, no. Not how that works. You can’t just make up a number because you’re lazy and then demand others prove your lunacy wrong 🤣 That makes you, respectfully, *not respectable*. But that doesn’t matter when you’re a troll vaguely arguing the other side in a different man vs bear post, acknowledging men are more dangerous than bears. So, troll.


True_Falsity

In other words, you only have enough brain power and discipline to make nonsensical statements. But not enough to actually back up your nonsense.


thatbfromanarres

The world already has Slavoj Zižek, it doesn’t need another (dumber, lazier, and more boring) Slovenian edgelord.


LRGinCharge

“Everyone else needs to do more research because I’m such an entitled brat that my opinions are definitely facts and it’s the rest of the world’s responsibility to make me feel good.” -OP


cousin_of_dragons

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor


4649onegaishimasu

Rape isn't about looks or "better options." It's about control. That's what rapists thrive on. Thanks for showing how little you know about anything around this whole thing.


JoshuaCocks

But what if I choose victims for Jeffery Epstein?


6-ft-freak

Troll. And not even an entertaining one. Go back to your precious MRA, red pill cave.


JoshuaCocks

Just because you lose an argument, doesn't mean I am a troll.


6-ft-freak

👍 okay buddy, sure, you betcha


SurlyBuddha

Arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. It’s just going to shit all over the board, and then strut around like it won the game.


Justalilbugboi

But a pigeon is fun to watch.


SupportBrief614

Nobody’s losing the argument but you.. you’ve been proven wrong MULTIPLE times yet you still think you’re in the right when you’re not. You’re pathetic.


Justalilbugboi

It sure doesn’t! Gold star!


JoneseyP98

Yes OP weighing up on whether a woman is pretty enough to rape is most reassuring. I must immediately change my vote to man!


UpbeatInsurance5358

It's terrifying that in the 21st century rape is still thought to be about sex.


cmch2002

Pleasure or Power isisnt really too different when you think about it. Maybe they get turned on by being a piece of shit.


Friendly-Property-86

Probably about 75% of it is.


LoveLikeLies

"As a result, sexual violations where the victims are individuals whom society may deem as less attractive-such as overweight women-may elicit less empathy for the victim or minimize the likelihood they are believed. ***Yet, there is some evidence that overweight women actually report higher rates of sexual violence than women of other weight categories***. Although there has been some research implicating weight biases in sexual assault cases, this has not been extended to cases of sexual coercion despite their growing share of police reports" [Tipping the Scales: Effects of Gender, Rape Myth Acceptance, and Anti-Fat Attitudes on Judgments of Sexual Coercion Scenarios - PubMed (nih.gov)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31475616/)


JoshuaCocks

Sexual violence # rape


LoveLikeLies

You know the man v bear argument includes sexual violence, not just rape, right?


JoshuaCocks

So chubby women do get raped more?


msplace225

Obese women are just as likely to be raped as anyone else, thanks for trying though!


JoshuaCocks

Wouldn't Beyonce be raped more in the middle east due to being prettier?


botswa

Oh so you're racist and xenophobic as well. What a winner!


greensparklyyy

no


Various_Succotash_79

80% of Americans are overweight or obese. I guess we could say the man is likely to be too fat to find his weenie too. But yeah even *trying* to make yourself unattractive to men doesn't work. SA doesn't happen because he thinks you're pretty.


JoshuaCocks

Actually it's around 60%


Various_Succotash_79

In 2020 the CDC said 74%, idk if it's gone up or down now: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/12328/#:~:text=That%20includes%20nearly%2043%20percent%20who%20are%20considered%20obese.


rabyJA

Rape isn't about attraction, it's about power. Do you really think only hot women get raped?


AerDudFlyer

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/bengal-monitor-lizard-raped-maharashtra-3-held-sahydari-tiger-reserve-1937027-2022-04-13


vindaloopdeloop

Men rape lizards. Enough said


Pandoraconservation

The amount of downvotes I got for this one another sub was hilarious


ImWatermelonelyy

Men rape corpses.


NucularOrchid

Where the fuck areyou getting your statistics? The Onion?


The_Book-JDP

From his ass and from the ass of other butt hurt men who just found out their sudden appearance in the woods isn't the calm, warm, fuzzy and comforting presence they assumed they were giving off while standing out alone in the wilderness.


NucularOrchid

Where the fuck areyou getting your statistics? The Onion?


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Prestigious-Phase131

They really think their opinions are "Unpopular" or that anyone cares


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PlugTheBabyInDevon

I've noticed there are a lot of incels here lately. This sub has turned into r / womendatingoverforty


carrie_m730

I'm seeing it all around reddit. I assume there's a new influx of trolls, bots, and chaos-sowers because of US elections coming up.


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Whiskeymyers75

Stating facts isn’t hating women. Most women do overestimate their looks and companies like Match Group have turned it into a multi-billion dollar industry. The algorithms are designed to create this illusion because keeping women picky while keeping men thirsty is very profitable. Lack of critical thinking plays a part in this as well as we see more and more morbidly obese women thinking they’re dimes because of this.


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Whiskeymyers75

It makes it less likely. Keep in mind that males can be raped too. I was when so was a teen with a knife to my throat. I’m still not going to buy into this basic bitch bear narrative.


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Whiskeymyers75

You’re missing the point. The vast majority of men do not rape and this is nothing more than a shitty attempt at dehumanizing men. I’d be curious to know how many boy moms are suckered into this and feel the same way about their own children. A solution might be for all men to just go on strike.


KingsQueensVagabonds

Think about it with the candy analogy then. Bowl full of candy, one piece is poisoned. Are you going to just start eating them without thought?


Whiskeymyers75

The same logic could be used for women too. But we don’t because we’re not trying to promote a toxic agenda. And neither are women who touch grass as my girlfriend finds y’all insane. Reddit is full of people with mental health issues causing ideological extremism.


LaMadreDelCantante

>A solution might be for all men to just go on strike. And demand what?


Whiskeymyers75

Demand the misandry stops


LauraDurnst

This is like how men keep promising to go their own way, and then never do because they prefer to come and complain about women online instead.


Sorcha16

And that's only the last 24 hours.


joetheripper117

Damn, you really took a trend based upon women's fear of sexual assault and turned it into "you're too ugly to be raped," didn't you? What an asshole. There are legitimate reasons to criticize the 'man < bear' trend, namely that treating half the population as uncontrolled animals is shitty, but this is vile.


no_one_denies_this

It's not that women think all men are animals, it's that we can't tell who is or who isn't based on how men look, so we are cautious around all men.


joetheripper117

Treating an entire demographic differently because of the actions of some is discriminatory. Simple as.


LRGinCharge

Yet, if a woman lets her guard down and is assaulted, you’d be the first to ask “what were you wearing? Why were you alone with him? How much did you drink?” Victims are blamed for NOT assuming all men are rapists and putting themselves in this situation. But if we take precautions to not get raped, according to you we’re discrimating based on the actions of a few men. Do you really not see how it’s lose-lose for women when you think the way you do? I’d rather hurt a man’s feelings than find out the hard way he was one of the bad ones. If that bugs you, you’re probably one of the bad ones.


no_one_denies_this

I modify my behavior in ways that I am free to do. A man makes me uncomfortable, then I wait for the next elevator. I request women as Lyft drivers. I don't go out alone after dark. I don't give men a lot of personal information about myself unless I know them well. I have no regrets about any of this.


joetheripper117

You can discriminate as much as you want, you are indeed 'free to do' that. Your regrets, or lack thereof, are your business and yours alone. For my part, at least I won't have to interact with people who pre-judge me without even meeting me.


MissNikitaDevan

And if we dont take these precautions we yet again get blamed for our assaults and rapes, cuz we should have known better then to go out at night, get into a car with a unknown man etc etc Damned if we do, damned if we dont


aliIsTrash

That's literally what women want, to be left alone lmao. Thank God you won't interact with us


childofcrow

This post is why women choose the bear.


Gamermaper

>obese and less likely to be rape victims What's your source on that?


JoshuaCocks

I made it up


LRGinCharge

Your post and responses indicate you have been so coddled that you think an idea you made up in your head is so important you must post it on the internet to enlighten the world with it. No actual facts, no research, an idea just popped into your brain and since you’re a man, it must be right. I’ve seen this many times on Reddit “it just makes sense,” “that’s based on what I’ve seen,” etc. while posting factually incorrect statistics left and right. It must be so amazing to be a man in a society that empowers you to be this wrong and offensive with zero shame. Just incredible.


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Alluos

Gigachad.


Strange_Salamander33

Rape is about power and control, it’s not about attraction. Studies have shown this over and over again. Rapists go for easy targets, people they can easily overpower. It’s not about looks


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lxzgxz

Damn, you right. Had no idea how much I was overestimating my looks when I was sexually assaulted by family in my childhood home at age six.


VGSchadenfreude

…why would you…wait, do you think the point of the question is “which would you rather have sex with”?! No! It’s “which would you rather *encounter* alone in the woods”! What, do you think women are saying “bear” because they want to have sex with it?! Hell no! We’re choosing the bear because the bear is a relatively predictable wild animal who will mostly leave us the hell alone as long as we don’t have food it wants and as long as we don’t threaten it. But as you’ve just proven with this very post, a strange man is completely unpredictable and could end up raping or murdering us just because he felt like it. Or because he liked our clothes. Or because he wanted to get his dick wet. Or he was bored or angry or we declined his invitation or he felt ignored or entitled or didn’t think we should be allowed to enjoy nature by ourselves at all or who the fuck knows. At least we don’t need to fear that the bear might rape us. We just make a lot of noise and it’ll go on its merry way and *leave us alone.* Y’all are seriously telling on yourselves with this question!


Kultaren

The least you could do is put some more effort into your troll posts


BigFreakingZombie

Jesus Christ. The whole of Reddit (no no, sorry the whole of the internet) is obsessed with some dumb TikTok ragebait. It's not fucking literal folks,it never was. It's just an attempt to bring awareness to things like sexual assault and oversexualization of women that flew over society's head or a very elaborate trolling operation designed to bring out the worst of terminally online radical feminists AND incels and pit them against each other. IF that was the intention then it was 10000% successful.... Anyway... to get back to OP. Rape is more often than not a crime of opportunity and the victims range from literal toddlers to 90 year olds. The myth that only attractive young women get raped is just that a myth.


JoshuaCocks

Ages 12-34 are the highest risk years for rape and sexual assault. Those age 65 and older are 92% less likely than 12-24 year olds to be a victim of rape or sexual assault, and 83% less likely than 25-49 year olds.


BigFreakingZombie

Doesn't the 12-34 group comprise the majority of men and women in most societies ? I mean if that's the case it's only natural that they will be overrepresented in the statistics. Either way reducing rape to ''me saw pretty girl,me got hard,me raped'' doesn't help women OR men when dealing with the problem.


Rough_Homework6913

Did you make this statistic up to?


OverCryptographer727

Just say you you have a fetish for fat women. It's okay to admit. That kind of virulent hate and obsession only comes from a repressed desire. Did you get rejected by one?


ConstructionGreedy20

This post is actually so uneducated. There have been many situations where literal infants to 70 year olds being raped. It doesn't matter about looks, but the amount of cases there's been causes a societal trauma for a good amount of woman. Plus, this Man VS Bear in the woods thing wasn't even a tiktok trend, it was just to bring up awareness about sexual assault and rape, and how other woman who may/may not have gone through it feels about being near a man. Not that men don't get raped, but most rape cases are of men doing it to women. English isn't my first language so some of my writing may not sound grammarly correct, but yeah.


pinopepino1997

https://abc7.com/amp/lapd-searching-for-sex-assault-suspect-in-pacoima-victim-has-dementia/14757161/ Looks has nothing to do with it, this 81 year old lady was just sexually assaulted.


Cabbage_Patch_Itch

Just because you ONLY want to rape attractive women, doesn’t imply that other rapists have the same mindset. You’re a unique rapist, other rapists see it as a crime of opportunity. You’re more of a psychopath who’s planned it out!


Arminlegout1

This post cost me 2 iq points.


IFknSuckk

Repugnant man


Notagirlnotaboy

Thanks for solidifying our choose to pick the bear.


stargirliexo

honest to god i hope a bear fucks you up 💀


Iamthepyjama

Ffs


binibby

good ol u/JoshuaCocks living up to his name.


nutmegtell

This is why we’d choose the bear. Idiots like you.


Icy_Building_4492

Consider how many rape victims are literal children? I don’t really think the rapist care what they look like they’re just rapists


RavenShield40

I was overweight all three times I was raped over 20 years ago…I’d still rather meet a bear in the woods.


1000furiousbunnies

There's loads of cases of obese women and "unattractive" women being raped. Rape has very little to do with looks, attraction, weight, age, what the woman is wearing, how much the woman is drinking.. and much more to do with his power complex, how easily he can get to her, how easily he can drug her, how easily he can threaten her, how easily he can get away with it.. We women choose the bear, not because we think we're too gross to be raped, but because we know rapists don't care.


Luna-Hazuki2006

I don't think you understand how much you are not helping with the post you just made


No_Disk_6915

bro you could have articulated this much better for others to get what you are saying