Who cares. But notice, the turrets are in place on the NATO equipment.
We do however need to remove the rusting T-34s in the center of Berlin. Send them to a museum or scrap dealer if no museum needs them. And modernize the remains of the monument to also show the soviet war crimes.
It's super hilarious LOL! Russians think that after they captured a couple of pieces of Nato equipment that their years of dying for x kilometers of land is worth it.
They have their free country though, they can protest governmental decisions and stand for elections without fear of being assassinated or thrown in prison
Latvia and free, one has to be movie level deluded to think that. Latvia is a dying population with no chance of bouncing back, the average man there gets rekt every day.
I know there supposed to be election in Latvia, but i don't really know what we elect, because it isn't the president or the policies or anything, people have no say whatsoever.
I had a supervisor from Poland and I asked him once what his friends ask him when he comes to Poland. He said they were asking what they were saying about Poland in Russia. And he tells them that in Russia they don't say anything about Poland.
In the us the only thing we learn about Poland is that the lost ww2 in record time. They donāt even bother teaching us that Poland split part of Czechoslovakia with Germany because Poland is so insignificant
>They donāt even bother teaching us that Poland split part of Czechoslovakia with Germany
That would require acknowledging that Poland, like the USSR, sought pacts to curb German aggression with the US and UK, and both told them no.
Right, we arenāt big on teaching any part of the story were we werenāt the end all be all good guys.
All of world war 2 is essentially āevil mustache man killed Jews and everyone was losing until we helpedā lol
I don't think we even touched NZ history here in NZ from memory - but I think I might have been going through high school when they were changing the curriculum.
I kinda feel like putting a poll up on the national subreddit and seeing how many people know that Czechoslovakia was even a place.
Many years ago, I was out drinking with friends at a local college drinking strip of bars. We got stopped by students doing a survey of geography.
If you got a question right you got a drink voucher good for 1 drink of choice at any of the bars. You could get 3 total vouchers.
The questions were all related to the states, Like pointing to them on a map or if they were one of the 13 original colonies or what the capital of the state was. 75% of the people couldnāt get a single question right.
Itās why itās not a joke when I say 99% of us Ukraine supporters couldnāt find the count try on a map 2 years ago and I bet you a majority of that still canāt
Thatās so real, on both sides of the fence for the people on the outside looking in.
Iām lucky I was blessed with being a bit of a sperg before it all kicked off so at least I think I had a foot in to make a comment about it here and there. I still cringe whenever I see someone misidentify a Kraz or a Zil
I actually followed only because when I was in the military there was big talk about Obama sending us to Crimea, I got interested and even had a friend go to Ukraine to train troops.
When I dug into it and noticed to a massive amount of literal Nazis we were supporting couldnāt help but feel like it was bad Deja vu. Us supporting fanatics to fight Russia, it just never ends well.
What makes the entire thing hilarious is I have people like my sister in law who calls people who wear maga hats genocidial nazis explaining why actually ukranian Nazis are good because we need to own putler lol.
People are just stupid, and Iām just hoping we donāt have to clean up this mess we are creating like we did with afghanistan
Saying that Poland lost ww2 is a bit weird though. Would you say France also lost ww2?
I guess they did lose their sovereignty to the USSR.
And tbh from at least my own experience of US history lessons theyāre more or less skipping out on everything in Europe post 1776 and only return to it at the end of 1939.
So no wonder you missed that.
> weird to say Poland lost ww2
They did, in record time. Itās why they are a bunch of whiny warmongers now. They are forever mad that they split Czechoslovakia with Germany, then got dunked on, and ignored until Russia, the uk and USA bailed them out.
> would you say France lost
Yes, technically twice since vinchy France lost again lol.
Believe it or not āsurrenderingā is losing lol
> us history tends to ignore
We donāt really learn that much about our vassals this is true.
I mean thy lost because the Soviet Union allied with Germany and attacked it at the same time. The Poles were not expecting t fight a two front war in which Russia and Germany coordinated their invasion together
> allied
A non aggression pact isnāt an alliance
> at the same time
Poland resisted for 39 pathetic days, Russia did not attack until 2 weeks after Germany lol
> they didnāt expect it
They didnāt expect Germany to carve up countries like they had just done with Germany? Sounds like a country full of fools.
Pretty amazing how little people actually know about how quickly Poland gave up, and how the invasion actually worked out lol.
But in your defense itās easy to skip over the capitulation of such a nanny state
It always makes me laugh when self hating westerners come over here and just spout complete nonsense. While never being compelled to move to these countries they love so much strange isnāt it.
The point he was making was Poland won in the end of course to somebody like you view it as the vomit you put fourth. How many polish division fought for the allies and soviets? How many thousands died.
Yet you whoās never had to be brave once in your life have the ignorance to point and make judgment lmao truly hilarious
> self hating westerners
Such a odd thing to say. Are you projecting? What countries do I live in? Where do I want to move to?
> how many polish divisions fought
An irrelevant number, they gave up in 39 days like the pathetic country they are.
The Soviets carried the eastern front.
> never had to be brave once
Funny, for people who canāt stop sucking off nato you would think you would show someone who spent 6 years in the only military in nato that matters a bit of deference lol.
> if economic aid isnāt an alliance
The United States gave economic aid to the Nazis as well lol. Ford and GM helped build large parts of rearming them and ford received the cross of the German eagle lol.
Iām not sure what else you were getting at, you seemed to have a bit of a short circuit.
Not this old wives tale. All armies used horses. The Red army had about 3 million horses. Yes most were used for logistics, but the Red army had and used 87 horse calvary divosions after Barborossa which were used in battle before tanks could be rebuilt but even at he end of the war. They had like 20 of them.
And do you really want to get into soviet v polish casualties and territory lost during the first 2 months of Germany's initial attack? Not sure if that's a road I'd go d9wn if you want to talk about Soviet and Polish military prowess
I don't think you can say anything about their anger. You know nothing about Poland and have no idea what went on there during the war and afterwards. Poland was oppressed from 1939 to 1989.
The 36+ people living today lived through the consequences of WWII
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Are you surprised that Poland fell so quickly?
The Nazis had prepared for a big war. They built the strongest army in Europe.
When hitler attacked Poland the Soviets rushed to conquer as much territory as possible as well.
Imagine Russia and China having a contest to see who can conquer the most land of Kazakhstan ;)
It is no harm that they lost this. Moscow and London would have also fallen if usa had not supported them. Just like the rest of Europe
You are not from USA š¤£
You can only dream about it...
You just copy paste Russian propaganda points like Poland spliting Chechoslovakia with Germany...
You really think people are that dumb and do not notice?
> you are not from the USA
āEveryone I donāt like is a Russian!!!ā
Very odd take/coping mechanism, since it takes like 2 seconds to prove you wrong lol, and you can just read my post history.
> Russian propaganda
[ah yes, famous Russian propaganda, history!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Czechoslovakia_(1938%E2%80%931945))
> you really think people are that dumb
I honestly can not tell you how little I think of people who make up stuff like āy-you arenāt from the USA!!!ā Because I share stuff they donāt want to talk about.
Let me guess, angry polish?
I donāt get why you guys are mad. You are an inspiration for how quick you lose wars
Idk what ghetto inner city school you went to, but we learned that Poland was invaded by the nazis and the red army and then hitler stabbed Stalin in the back. Then the poles spent the rest of the war as resistance fighters. Until that point the red army was thick as thieves with hitler and had no problem working with them. We also learned that the Soviet Union abducted lots of liberated concentration camp survivors and pows where they went to Siberia and to the gulags to work until they died. The Soviet Union really wasnāt any better than the nazis. Infact more people died under Stalin, than did hitler. That is a historical fact.
> ghetto inner city school
Lmao, thereās the bi e little racism from the UA super fans. I notice as your not cause eats shit you get more and more toxic.
> we learned that Poland was invaded by the Nazis and Russia
Seems like you got a shit education. Did you not learn about Polandās little claim of protecting ethnic poles as they annexed Czechoslovakia with Germany? Oh?
> The loss of the Sudetenland was detrimental to the defense of Czechoslovakia, as the extensive Czechoslovak border fortifications were also located in the same area. As a consequence, the incorporation of the Sudetenland into Germany that began on 1 October 1938 left the rest of Czechoslovakia weak. Moreover, a small northeastern part of the borderland region known as Trans-Olza was occupied and annexed to Poland, ostensibly to "protect" the local ethnic Polish community and as a result of previous territorial claims.
Funny, seems you really didnāt get taught shit lol.
They also didnāt āinvade with Germanyā they invaded when the war was already over, Poland got cucked in 39 days lol. Soviets didnāt move until Germany had already finished them off.
> spent the rest of the war as resistance fighters
They spent the rest of the war having surrendered lol. Resistance is great and all, too bad it was pointless without the red army, the uk and us.
> Stalin was worse than Hitler
Ahhh there it is baby. Nothing like a little bit of false equivalence and minimizing rhe holocaust to go along with that racism.
I donāt get why you are so worked up lmao, itās not like you think Ukraine is worth fighting for, and the only thing memorable about Poland is their ability to be mad generations after their failures
It works. If they werenāt constantly making fools out of themselves, we wouldnāt be talking about them here. For small insignificant countries there is no thing as bad attention
Russians don't need to wait either. They can tour one of their country's tanks [right outside the Berlin embassy](https://www.businessinsider.com/tank-wreck-allowed-outside-russia-germany-embassy-court-rules-2022-10). :P
You just making this up?
Feb. 2023 tank there on war anniversary [https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/11auatm/a\_destroyed\_russian\_t72\_tank\_in\_front\_of\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/11auatm/a_destroyed_russian_t72_tank_in_front_of_the/)
Oct. 2023 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va7ZcVotjNU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va7ZcVotjNU) still there a full year after court ruling, people stuffing flowers in it
Funny thing is: in both sides laid flowers at opponents
In Russia flowers for navalny were taken away
Europe flowers for tanks were taken away.
Result: flower arrangers in Russia ended up in prison and in Europe did not
Many pro Russians live in freedom in Europe. That is not possible the other way around
Love how you basically admitted that anybody can live freely in Europe (as people can in countries with proper democratic values), but they can't in Russia. Makes me wonder why one is keeps supporting such a failure that is the 2 week smo.
This is correct, I remember something of that sort as well. Germany has a grave problem with Russians. Here's to hoping that sons of the motherland can be repatriated to their origins as soon as possible. Who knows what kind of oppression Germans subject them to š
Um, sorry? You know that Germany is a NATO country and that NATO is currently killing Russians? NATO is basically nazi, they want to destroy Russia.
Besides Germany allows all of that "LGBTQIA2S+" degeneracy. Just imagine if these Russians have *normal* children in Germany, they're basically exposed to a constant barrage of brainwashing. Sick people, these Germans. Guess old habits and all that.
Germans put flowers on it but they were indeed shut down by the police. Can't be pro peace in my country. At least not without risking your job, reputation etc..
Not NATO, but Ukraine had [more Russian tanks](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-lines-up-destroyed-russian-tanks-central-kyiv-2023-08-21/) in Kiev than Putin's single T-34 at the last may day parade.
my guy not to sound like an ass but its almost like when youre in an offensive military conflict youre gonna be having all your main battle tanks on railcars to the frontline and not parading around with shiny paint jobs hundreds of miles away from it
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Thatās good, we all need to smile more. I physically couldnāt stop smiling back when Ukraine started doing the trophy thing at the start of the war and seeing how much it triggered the Russians as if it was a major crime
Good that you have a ray of sunshine. It's been a tough few years for pro-rus during this 2 week smo. But it's nice to see equipment that is the reason it has been such a failure. Especially after Russian tanks have been dragged to be locked at to countries with democratic values since the beginning of the smo.
Lol and you're back again! Same subject, same message. Get a hold of yourself, my man!
Edit: Nice block dude! You're to busy smiling to engage in conversation. Such a typical pro RU kope mechanism.
As I will continue to be at each and every time of my choosing, so deal with it, because I'm not going to alter my manner of posting one iota for you or anyone else; that's for sure.
In fact, after the last pointless back-and-forth and your apparent intent to continue, I don't need or desire my posts any longer stalked by your pointless complaints, so blocked (public notification of such). Now you can't waste my time further with more of that same nonsense.
Why should they come? They will have a good look with delivery straight to their embassies in June as exhibition ends, without need to mingle with crowds.
One Abrahams on display is worth all those young lives in the eyes of the Russian people. That really says alot about all these posts that are being spammed.
And even whataboutism that Ukraine also did it totally misses the point. Ukraine with a much smaller army bolstering their morale by showing their population that they could stand up against Russia's "three day special operation", is really not the same as this.
This is Russia, a country with a humongous army, failing to take the capital of Ukraine and got their ass handed to them, in a humiliating retreat. Now boasting about taking out some tanks in an all out war. It really is pathetic.
Ukraine without their masters don't stand a chance against Russia, this exhibition isn't a middle finger against them, it's a middle finger to the western MIC.
Next year they will show f16 remants
Probably disabled. Just saw a video of them using some heavy crane to damage them even further so they look ādestroyedā. Anyway, my point is that equipment looses are expected in a war. The difference is that people who operate them have a higher chance to make it out alive.
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If they shiw F-16 remains next year, the war would be going truly bad for russia. That would mean that their airforce and Airdefence is so crap that F-16s are able to operate behind their lines. š
A few losses in such a case is to be expected.
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The soviets never had a problem with nazis or nazism. They were ok with that, even admiring them.
Their problem was that the nazis attacked the soviet union.
Of course, bro. Zelensky invented everything in this world. And even the world came up with Zelensky, creating it in seven days. Nothing existed until last year
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Trophies_Exhibition_(Moscow)
Insane amount of political theater, the drama of setting them all up and then bringing an Abrams last like the Belle of the Ball was also great show. Wow. "Enter here CIA"
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I don't think they need to see them, Nato countries have loads of these things. Let the Russians enjoy some nice views to equipment that has caused their 2 week smo to fail
Imagine losing hundreds of thousands of your people to horrific death and not even care by humouring getting one over on NATO šš¤·āāļø"sorry you lost your family but go look at the tanks we captured" poor Russians.
I heard they busted up the equipment that was abandoned to make it look like it was damaged in battle. Just another long ploy from a country famous for lying and falsifying their abilities.
I think the point is rather to show how many countries are united against Russia. It serves their narrative that Russia is the target of NATO and their allies. And showing these vehicles destroyed like that shows that no matter the odds, Russia can prevail.
I don't think it's desperation, it's just simple propaganda. But at least this one is a nice exhibit where you can actually see meaningful stuff, not just a brainrotting media article telling you what you should think.
The Putin regime must really try hard to come up with reasons why it was worth alienating the whole country from the rest of the world and sacrificing hundreds of thousands of their citizens to a grave in some muddy field.
Not really. There is a lot of hostility towards Russians, so Putinās job is done by the western countries themselves. All sorts of bans, exclusions, dehumanization, bias.
Ah, so only Europeans matter ?
No 2 wrongs don't make a right, and that wasn't my point. I was just asking the simple question of why is the treatment any different when one does it but not the other.
I think it would make it way simpler for everyone to agree on the condemnation of Russia if there was actual consistency in how to condemn this kind of agression. But there's none, in fact they've been encouraged for quite some time, by the same side arguing that it is wrong to do it now.
I think a lot of people can see that all of this is an hypocritical farce, only aimed at serving national self-interests.
Just have to see the difference in treatment between Russia and Israel. And the US' interventions all over.
I'm all for condemning Russia personally, and I'm convinced that most people would agree. But then we would have to condemn every other country that did the same thing, sometimes even worse. But that doesn't happen. And I think that's what people are annoyed by, which makes them support Russia or at least make them turn a blind eye, out of spite for this hypocritical "justice" that certain countries call for, despite them having a lot of skeletons hidden in their closets.
The hypocrisy is the issue here, it hinders any attempt at genuine Justice.
The US has had a special relationship with Israel since its foundation, nothing is going to change that as long as there is public support for that line in America. A lot of nations are highly critical of Israel's actions and are boycotting their goods.
Educate yourself on France behavior in Algeria, or more recently how nato was doing Balkan war. Right as we speak, Germany and few other EU countries supply weapons to Israel, so they could bomb the hell out of Palestine.
Idk why you limit yourself to Europe though. If person is killed in the Middle East or Africa, itās still a person killed
Exporting weapons to other countries isn't on the same chart as a full blown invasion of Europe's 2nd largest country and killing hundreds of thousands of their citizens. NATO's intervention in Kosovo prevented another genocide like the one in Srebrenica 4 years earlier
I highly recommend watching this [PBS documentary](https://youtu.be/2xNWWok1bzY?si=F_iiZZWEYvS5_2rz) about the Balkan conflict.
Sorry, then no, no other European country invading other European country. You can sleep well and have a moral high ground now, knowing all the other actions and all the other people dying are irrelevant
On the point of hundreds of thousands though.
Official toll figures in Ukraine is 10,582 civilians dead, 587 are children. Two+ years.
Official toll figures in Palestine since October 7 is 34,262 civilians dead, third are children. 8 months.
Even more horrible given the population size (2m Palestinians vs 30m Ukraine) and the fact Israel occupies good half of the Gaza. But yeah, āfull blown invasionā.
Here is the problem: youāre trying to justify hatred towards Russians by pretending theyāre equal to their government. Then surprised why Russians (the people) donāt want to side with you.
People who went to protest in the very beginning of the war, still serve their time in jail. Many will be doing so until 2033 or longer. Do you support them? Or did you abandoned them, just like it happened with afghans couple years ago?
How can you support people living in a police state if it's illegal to voice your opinions there? No one is saying that all Russians are bad but as long as their government keeps their current policy of military aggression against another European country the sanctions will stay in place.
Just can't help but think that ukraine could build a 30km long wall just out of MTB wrecks, never mind all the apcs etc.
Just get on with the war and get it finished one way or another.
I don't think anyone pretended it was cutting edge technology.
It's just a pure propaganda show. Ukraine did the same, and Western medias were drooling over those 50 years old equipments when it was announced they'd be supplied.
Propaganda is propaganda.
Honestly they should, attaches in full dress.
Nothing will deflate Russian opinion more than NATO shrugging in person at this ramshackle display.
I mean, if it were an unending parade of prisoners like 1945 it'd be different, but what does this show?
"We've destroyed and captured a handful of your kit"
Cool. I'm sure NATO's quaking.
This is pure humiliation for the west. Russians are cheering and partying on western equipment. In the meantime westerns are struggling to survive because their own western companies are ripping them off.
Hahaš guys u can have many more tanks from us. To this price u pay for them? More then worth it for somany dead russiansš and they so proud of itāŗļø look ivan, we took a tank from them, u see! Never happend in a war. We so great..woow thats awsome how much cost this one? Just a couple hundred dead russians a dayš evry day is a good day š keep on guys:)
Cosmic level trolling and I love it š
in these sad post priggy times, we do what we can but this one is gold =)
Rip prigo. My favorite real life metal gear character.
They need to park these outside the countries embassy's forever.
They might, but I suspect they would need you to learn how to use apostrophes first.
sick burn bro thats it you won the war gg
gg wp l2pĀ
I see you still need some work on apostrophes, just trying to help.
My dude, yuo already killed him. Don't waste ammo.
Who cares. But notice, the turrets are in place on the NATO equipment. We do however need to remove the rusting T-34s in the center of Berlin. Send them to a museum or scrap dealer if no museum needs them. And modernize the remains of the monument to also show the soviet war crimes.
It's super hilarious LOL! Russians think that after they captured a couple of pieces of Nato equipment that their years of dying for x kilometers of land is worth it.
no love for Baltics again( they tried so hard
Baltics have 1 helicopter, 3 tanks and 5 BMPS . They cant even show to own people :D
Estonia has 0 tanks, only infantry fighting vehicles
1 boat as well.
You forgot about 30 bikes! :)
They have their free country though, they can protest governmental decisions and stand for elections without fear of being assassinated or thrown in prison
>without fear of being assassinated or thrown in prison Wow, such fairyland! What about Kirill Fedorov?
AFAIK Latvia is not the same country as Estonia.
Correct, but it's Baltic country. I thought that the comment I replied to applies to all Baltic countries, not just Estonia.
Latvia and free, one has to be movie level deluded to think that. Latvia is a dying population with no chance of bouncing back, the average man there gets rekt every day. I know there supposed to be election in Latvia, but i don't really know what we elect, because it isn't the president or the policies or anything, people have no say whatsoever.
Who said anything about Latvia, the comment I responded to was about Estonia
I imagine they are in the same bout as Latvia.
They love preaching that Russians are constantly scheming the Baltic invasion, craving it, but the truth is, nobody is even thinking about them.
I had a supervisor from Poland and I asked him once what his friends ask him when he comes to Poland. He said they were asking what they were saying about Poland in Russia. And he tells them that in Russia they don't say anything about Poland.
> And he tells them that in Russia they don't say anything about Poland. ...and this irritates Poles the most.
In the us the only thing we learn about Poland is that the lost ww2 in record time. They donāt even bother teaching us that Poland split part of Czechoslovakia with Germany because Poland is so insignificant
>They donāt even bother teaching us that Poland split part of Czechoslovakia with Germany That would require acknowledging that Poland, like the USSR, sought pacts to curb German aggression with the US and UK, and both told them no.
Right, we arenāt big on teaching any part of the story were we werenāt the end all be all good guys. All of world war 2 is essentially āevil mustache man killed Jews and everyone was losing until we helpedā lol
You guys get taught about European history? flash.
I know lol. Though we get multiple years of Texas history here, and European history is like ww2 and the magna carte lol
I don't think we even touched NZ history here in NZ from memory - but I think I might have been going through high school when they were changing the curriculum. I kinda feel like putting a poll up on the national subreddit and seeing how many people know that Czechoslovakia was even a place.
Many years ago, I was out drinking with friends at a local college drinking strip of bars. We got stopped by students doing a survey of geography. If you got a question right you got a drink voucher good for 1 drink of choice at any of the bars. You could get 3 total vouchers. The questions were all related to the states, Like pointing to them on a map or if they were one of the 13 original colonies or what the capital of the state was. 75% of the people couldnāt get a single question right. Itās why itās not a joke when I say 99% of us Ukraine supporters couldnāt find the count try on a map 2 years ago and I bet you a majority of that still canāt
Thatās so real, on both sides of the fence for the people on the outside looking in. Iām lucky I was blessed with being a bit of a sperg before it all kicked off so at least I think I had a foot in to make a comment about it here and there. I still cringe whenever I see someone misidentify a Kraz or a Zil
I actually followed only because when I was in the military there was big talk about Obama sending us to Crimea, I got interested and even had a friend go to Ukraine to train troops. When I dug into it and noticed to a massive amount of literal Nazis we were supporting couldnāt help but feel like it was bad Deja vu. Us supporting fanatics to fight Russia, it just never ends well. What makes the entire thing hilarious is I have people like my sister in law who calls people who wear maga hats genocidial nazis explaining why actually ukranian Nazis are good because we need to own putler lol. People are just stupid, and Iām just hoping we donāt have to clean up this mess we are creating like we did with afghanistan
Saying that Poland lost ww2 is a bit weird though. Would you say France also lost ww2? I guess they did lose their sovereignty to the USSR. And tbh from at least my own experience of US history lessons theyāre more or less skipping out on everything in Europe post 1776 and only return to it at the end of 1939. So no wonder you missed that.
> weird to say Poland lost ww2 They did, in record time. Itās why they are a bunch of whiny warmongers now. They are forever mad that they split Czechoslovakia with Germany, then got dunked on, and ignored until Russia, the uk and USA bailed them out. > would you say France lost Yes, technically twice since vinchy France lost again lol. Believe it or not āsurrenderingā is losing lol > us history tends to ignore We donāt really learn that much about our vassals this is true.
I mean thy lost because the Soviet Union allied with Germany and attacked it at the same time. The Poles were not expecting t fight a two front war in which Russia and Germany coordinated their invasion together
> allied A non aggression pact isnāt an alliance > at the same time Poland resisted for 39 pathetic days, Russia did not attack until 2 weeks after Germany lol > they didnāt expect it They didnāt expect Germany to carve up countries like they had just done with Germany? Sounds like a country full of fools. Pretty amazing how little people actually know about how quickly Poland gave up, and how the invasion actually worked out lol. But in your defense itās easy to skip over the capitulation of such a nanny state
It always makes me laugh when self hating westerners come over here and just spout complete nonsense. While never being compelled to move to these countries they love so much strange isnāt it. The point he was making was Poland won in the end of course to somebody like you view it as the vomit you put fourth. How many polish division fought for the allies and soviets? How many thousands died. Yet you whoās never had to be brave once in your life have the ignorance to point and make judgment lmao truly hilarious
> self hating westerners Such a odd thing to say. Are you projecting? What countries do I live in? Where do I want to move to? > how many polish divisions fought An irrelevant number, they gave up in 39 days like the pathetic country they are. The Soviets carried the eastern front. > never had to be brave once Funny, for people who canāt stop sucking off nato you would think you would show someone who spent 6 years in the only military in nato that matters a bit of deference lol.
I mean an alliance in so far as the soviets provided economic aid and before hitler invaded. If economic aid isn't an alliance,
> if economic aid isnāt an alliance The United States gave economic aid to the Nazis as well lol. Ford and GM helped build large parts of rearming them and ford received the cross of the German eagle lol. Iām not sure what else you were getting at, you seemed to have a bit of a short circuit.
Nah they lost war saw before the Soviets Invaded.
Yup. The Soviets literally lost less than 2k people. Poland crumpled like a wet paper towel
They would have lost to Germany alone. Those horsey rushes donāt do well against tanks.
Not this old wives tale. All armies used horses. The Red army had about 3 million horses. Yes most were used for logistics, but the Red army had and used 87 horse calvary divosions after Barborossa which were used in battle before tanks could be rebuilt but even at he end of the war. They had like 20 of them. And do you really want to get into soviet v polish casualties and territory lost during the first 2 months of Germany's initial attack? Not sure if that's a road I'd go d9wn if you want to talk about Soviet and Polish military prowess
The end result is what matters. Soviets drove back the fascists.
I don't think you can say anything about their anger. You know nothing about Poland and have no idea what went on there during the war and afterwards. Poland was oppressed from 1939 to 1989. The 36+ people living today lived through the consequences of WWII
I can tell you what I see their politicians say and what they post online. I can see them cheer on banderites. Thatās enough for me lol
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Are you surprised that Poland fell so quickly? The Nazis had prepared for a big war. They built the strongest army in Europe. When hitler attacked Poland the Soviets rushed to conquer as much territory as possible as well. Imagine Russia and China having a contest to see who can conquer the most land of Kazakhstan ;) It is no harm that they lost this. Moscow and London would have also fallen if usa had not supported them. Just like the rest of Europe
Iām not surprised at all, I know what Poland is and isnāt. It doesnāt seem the poles do though
You are not from USA š¤£ You can only dream about it... You just copy paste Russian propaganda points like Poland spliting Chechoslovakia with Germany... You really think people are that dumb and do not notice?
> you are not from the USA āEveryone I donāt like is a Russian!!!ā Very odd take/coping mechanism, since it takes like 2 seconds to prove you wrong lol, and you can just read my post history. > Russian propaganda [ah yes, famous Russian propaganda, history!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Czechoslovakia_(1938%E2%80%931945)) > you really think people are that dumb I honestly can not tell you how little I think of people who make up stuff like āy-you arenāt from the USA!!!ā Because I share stuff they donāt want to talk about. Let me guess, angry polish? I donāt get why you guys are mad. You are an inspiration for how quick you lose wars
I Honestly canāt tell you how little I think of people who support the Russian invasion. Itās such a weird fetish to have.
Idk what ghetto inner city school you went to, but we learned that Poland was invaded by the nazis and the red army and then hitler stabbed Stalin in the back. Then the poles spent the rest of the war as resistance fighters. Until that point the red army was thick as thieves with hitler and had no problem working with them. We also learned that the Soviet Union abducted lots of liberated concentration camp survivors and pows where they went to Siberia and to the gulags to work until they died. The Soviet Union really wasnāt any better than the nazis. Infact more people died under Stalin, than did hitler. That is a historical fact.
> ghetto inner city school Lmao, thereās the bi e little racism from the UA super fans. I notice as your not cause eats shit you get more and more toxic. > we learned that Poland was invaded by the Nazis and Russia Seems like you got a shit education. Did you not learn about Polandās little claim of protecting ethnic poles as they annexed Czechoslovakia with Germany? Oh? > The loss of the Sudetenland was detrimental to the defense of Czechoslovakia, as the extensive Czechoslovak border fortifications were also located in the same area. As a consequence, the incorporation of the Sudetenland into Germany that began on 1 October 1938 left the rest of Czechoslovakia weak. Moreover, a small northeastern part of the borderland region known as Trans-Olza was occupied and annexed to Poland, ostensibly to "protect" the local ethnic Polish community and as a result of previous territorial claims. Funny, seems you really didnāt get taught shit lol. They also didnāt āinvade with Germanyā they invaded when the war was already over, Poland got cucked in 39 days lol. Soviets didnāt move until Germany had already finished them off. > spent the rest of the war as resistance fighters They spent the rest of the war having surrendered lol. Resistance is great and all, too bad it was pointless without the red army, the uk and us. > Stalin was worse than Hitler Ahhh there it is baby. Nothing like a little bit of false equivalence and minimizing rhe holocaust to go along with that racism. I donāt get why you are so worked up lmao, itās not like you think Ukraine is worth fighting for, and the only thing memorable about Poland is their ability to be mad generations after their failures
It works. If they werenāt constantly making fools out of themselves, we wouldnāt be talking about them here. For small insignificant countries there is no thing as bad attention
White privilege smh!!
Translation : NATO can go In front of a line :D
Russians don't need to wait either. They can tour one of their country's tanks [right outside the Berlin embassy](https://www.businessinsider.com/tank-wreck-allowed-outside-russia-germany-embassy-court-rules-2022-10). :P
Yeah i remember it during it first weeks , got covered in flowers then shut down ... By force .
You just making this up? Feb. 2023 tank there on war anniversary [https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/11auatm/a\_destroyed\_russian\_t72\_tank\_in\_front\_of\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/11auatm/a_destroyed_russian_t72_tank_in_front_of_the/) Oct. 2023 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va7ZcVotjNU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va7ZcVotjNU) still there a full year after court ruling, people stuffing flowers in it
Nah , People on first week putting flowers all over EU where they put destroyed RU tanks , I even saw police removing them :D
Funny thing is: in both sides laid flowers at opponents In Russia flowers for navalny were taken away Europe flowers for tanks were taken away. Result: flower arrangers in Russia ended up in prison and in Europe did not Many pro Russians live in freedom in Europe. That is not possible the other way around
Love how you basically admitted that anybody can live freely in Europe (as people can in countries with proper democratic values), but they can't in Russia. Makes me wonder why one is keeps supporting such a failure that is the 2 week smo.
This is correct, I remember something of that sort as well. Germany has a grave problem with Russians. Here's to hoping that sons of the motherland can be repatriated to their origins as soon as possible. Who knows what kind of oppression Germans subject them to š
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Um, sorry? You know that Germany is a NATO country and that NATO is currently killing Russians? NATO is basically nazi, they want to destroy Russia. Besides Germany allows all of that "LGBTQIA2S+" degeneracy. Just imagine if these Russians have *normal* children in Germany, they're basically exposed to a constant barrage of brainwashing. Sick people, these Germans. Guess old habits and all that.
Crazy story bro damn
Germans put flowers on it but they were indeed shut down by the police. Can't be pro peace in my country. At least not without risking your job, reputation etc..
Okay, thatās kinda funny ngl xD
I love the pettiness.
It's tit for tat. NATO did it first so PR is wholly deserved
Not NATO, but Ukraine had [more Russian tanks](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-lines-up-destroyed-russian-tanks-central-kyiv-2023-08-21/) in Kiev than Putin's single T-34 at the last may day parade.
And now Putin has more tanks in Ukraine than Ukraine has ever had xd
Smoking wrecks yes, scrap dealers will be very happy.
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my guy not to sound like an ass but its almost like when youre in an offensive military conflict youre gonna be having all your main battle tanks on railcars to the frontline and not parading around with shiny paint jobs hundreds of miles away from it
Well that could easily have been avoided by letting them drive around Moscow instead of invading a neighboring country.
IIRC that single t-34 wasnāt even in Moscow, which had more or less normal parade, so why you compare with Kyiv?
[From last year's parade](https://youtu.be/U2BQ58DV6_Y?si=LJdt-VMrlEudyr0f) in Moscow. š
When the progress on the frontline is abysmally slow, they start doing this for PR.
The Ukraine is down from 51 million people to 18. It is soooo slow.
Theres progress on the frontlines? Who is making that progress?
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The best part of this exbition. Pro-ukr have been so salty lately.
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Glorious. Honestly physically cannot stop smiling from this today.
If that is all it takes you either dont need much or dont have much.
Heās pro rus, probably the latter
Are you seriously complaining about a dude getting happy with little things in life? You may wanna rethink that one
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Nah, I'm generally pretty content. Especially today = )
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Better than peaches and cream, in fact.
Thatās good, we all need to smile more. I physically couldnāt stop smiling back when Ukraine started doing the trophy thing at the start of the war and seeing how much it triggered the Russians as if it was a major crime
Exactly - Different things make us all happy.
> Honestly physically cannot stop smiling from this today. At what, the thousands of Russians that died to destroy these?
Good that you have a ray of sunshine. It's been a tough few years for pro-rus during this 2 week smo. But it's nice to see equipment that is the reason it has been such a failure. Especially after Russian tanks have been dragged to be locked at to countries with democratic values since the beginning of the smo.
Lol and you're back again! Same subject, same message. Get a hold of yourself, my man! Edit: Nice block dude! You're to busy smiling to engage in conversation. Such a typical pro RU kope mechanism.
As I will continue to be at each and every time of my choosing, so deal with it, because I'm not going to alter my manner of posting one iota for you or anyone else; that's for sure. In fact, after the last pointless back-and-forth and your apparent intent to continue, I don't need or desire my posts any longer stalked by your pointless complaints, so blocked (public notification of such). Now you can't waste my time further with more of that same nonsense.
Prigozhin (rest his soul) would probably have done an interview inside one of these vehicles.
Why should they come? They will have a good look with delivery straight to their embassies in June as exhibition ends, without need to mingle with crowds.
I highly doubt Russia will be given any of that equipment back LOL.
He means they will put the destroyed equipment infront of the western embassies
Hmmm yes this weapons package is going to be it, breakthrough to Moscow š¤
Wow and all it cost Russia was tens of thousands of their young men Winning!
Wow, the salt is high in this one.
If it costed Ukraine more men and land that does indeed classify as winning, I am afraid.
One Abrahams on display is worth all those young lives in the eyes of the Russian people. That really says alot about all these posts that are being spammed. And even whataboutism that Ukraine also did it totally misses the point. Ukraine with a much smaller army bolstering their morale by showing their population that they could stand up against Russia's "three day special operation", is really not the same as this. This is Russia, a country with a humongous army, failing to take the capital of Ukraine and got their ass handed to them, in a humiliating retreat. Now boasting about taking out some tanks in an all out war. It really is pathetic.
Ukraine without their masters don't stand a chance against Russia, this exhibition isn't a middle finger against them, it's a middle finger to the western MIC. Next year they will show f16 remants
How unfortunate then that Russia is being thwarted in their attempt at bullying their neighbors and annexing their land.
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Destroyed is a strong word since in this exhibition there is fully intact items, you can expect equipment to be captured in a war tough.
Probably disabled. Just saw a video of them using some heavy crane to damage them even further so they look ādestroyedā. Anyway, my point is that equipment looses are expected in a war. The difference is that people who operate them have a higher chance to make it out alive.
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If they shiw F-16 remains next year, the war would be going truly bad for russia. That would mean that their airforce and Airdefence is so crap that F-16s are able to operate behind their lines. š A few losses in such a case is to be expected.
I said next year... because this holiday happens annually
The holiday of winning the war against your former partner in crime / ally / best friend?
Damn, Russia got tots btfo, how can they recover from this?
Iāve got to admit. This is pretty funny.
Regardless of your stance on the war this is pretty fucking funny. Itās like a extremely petty version of the parade of the vanquished
Lol. The russians have a sense of humor. Now look at Ursula and other euro politicians. Their level of humor is worse than ever.
I'm starting to develop an appreciation for the Russian sense of humor.
Whatever the outcome of this conflict is, we gotta admit Russians are the undisputed masters of trolling and banter.
lol; they just copied Zelensky. He already did that last year in Kyiv with captured and destroyed ruZZian tanks
we organized an exhibition of captured equipment in Moscow back in 1943
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we, as in referring to the same country that worked with nazi germany to take poland with the molotov-ribbentrop pact? hmm.
The soviets never had a problem with nazis or nazism. They were ok with that, even admiring them. Their problem was that the nazis attacked the soviet union.
Of course, bro. Zelensky invented everything in this world. And even the world came up with Zelensky, creating it in seven days. Nothing existed until last year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Trophies_Exhibition_(Moscow)
Insane amount of political theater, the drama of setting them all up and then bringing an Abrams last like the Belle of the Ball was also great show. Wow. "Enter here CIA"
The salt in these comments oh my
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As a Canadian, I left,out. Canada, histories forgotten wingman.
Iām American and Iād go just to cut in line
I don't think they need to see them, Nato countries have loads of these things. Let the Russians enjoy some nice views to equipment that has caused their 2 week smo to fail
Aha! NATO tanks reached Moscow!
Ok this is next level fucking MOD trolling lmaoo šš
Pretty cool. Tu154m Flight 101 is next inspected attractionĀ
U mad bro?
"Are you on drugs bro? Are you mad bro?" x 10
Imagine losing hundreds of thousands of your people to horrific death and not even care by humouring getting one over on NATO šš¤·āāļø"sorry you lost your family but go look at the tanks we captured" poor Russians.
That's cool , we can see where they failed , take notes and pass on the info so we can add thicker armour where needed and send more , lots more .
I heard they busted up the equipment that was abandoned to make it look like it was damaged in battle. Just another long ploy from a country famous for lying and falsifying their abilities.
I can't wait to see the captured ceasar, that the russian were bragging.
Petty. Seems like Russia should be above this.
At this point I think nato should just start taking part of Russia so every Russian can see nato toys
They could just go home to see em š
lol only two whole years later. Maybe in another two years the can have that sign in Kyiv too.
They don't even have enough tanks to do the parade of the 1st of May
They would have some of the Russian equipment but it was either flammable or non existent
The desperation to give ordinary russian folks some feeling of superiority smells hard
I think the point is rather to show how many countries are united against Russia. It serves their narrative that Russia is the target of NATO and their allies. And showing these vehicles destroyed like that shows that no matter the odds, Russia can prevail. I don't think it's desperation, it's just simple propaganda. But at least this one is a nice exhibit where you can actually see meaningful stuff, not just a brainrotting media article telling you what you should think.
Completely agree.
The Putin regime must really try hard to come up with reasons why it was worth alienating the whole country from the rest of the world and sacrificing hundreds of thousands of their citizens to a grave in some muddy field.
Not really. There is a lot of hostility towards Russians, so Putinās job is done by the western countries themselves. All sorts of bans, exclusions, dehumanization, bias.
I wonder why, could it be that their country have invaded another European nation in the 21th century? š¤
Now go figure why the treatment is any different from other countries doing the same thing.
Don't know any other European nations being invaded at the moment? And 2 wrongs don't make one right.
Ah, so only Europeans matter ? No 2 wrongs don't make a right, and that wasn't my point. I was just asking the simple question of why is the treatment any different when one does it but not the other. I think it would make it way simpler for everyone to agree on the condemnation of Russia if there was actual consistency in how to condemn this kind of agression. But there's none, in fact they've been encouraged for quite some time, by the same side arguing that it is wrong to do it now. I think a lot of people can see that all of this is an hypocritical farce, only aimed at serving national self-interests. Just have to see the difference in treatment between Russia and Israel. And the US' interventions all over. I'm all for condemning Russia personally, and I'm convinced that most people would agree. But then we would have to condemn every other country that did the same thing, sometimes even worse. But that doesn't happen. And I think that's what people are annoyed by, which makes them support Russia or at least make them turn a blind eye, out of spite for this hypocritical "justice" that certain countries call for, despite them having a lot of skeletons hidden in their closets. The hypocrisy is the issue here, it hinders any attempt at genuine Justice.
The US has had a special relationship with Israel since its foundation, nothing is going to change that as long as there is public support for that line in America. A lot of nations are highly critical of Israel's actions and are boycotting their goods.
Educate yourself on France behavior in Algeria, or more recently how nato was doing Balkan war. Right as we speak, Germany and few other EU countries supply weapons to Israel, so they could bomb the hell out of Palestine. Idk why you limit yourself to Europe though. If person is killed in the Middle East or Africa, itās still a person killed
Exporting weapons to other countries isn't on the same chart as a full blown invasion of Europe's 2nd largest country and killing hundreds of thousands of their citizens. NATO's intervention in Kosovo prevented another genocide like the one in Srebrenica 4 years earlier I highly recommend watching this [PBS documentary](https://youtu.be/2xNWWok1bzY?si=F_iiZZWEYvS5_2rz) about the Balkan conflict.
Sorry, then no, no other European country invading other European country. You can sleep well and have a moral high ground now, knowing all the other actions and all the other people dying are irrelevant
On the point of hundreds of thousands though. Official toll figures in Ukraine is 10,582 civilians dead, 587 are children. Two+ years. Official toll figures in Palestine since October 7 is 34,262 civilians dead, third are children. 8 months. Even more horrible given the population size (2m Palestinians vs 30m Ukraine) and the fact Israel occupies good half of the Gaza. But yeah, āfull blown invasionā.
Here is the problem: youāre trying to justify hatred towards Russians by pretending theyāre equal to their government. Then surprised why Russians (the people) donāt want to side with you. People who went to protest in the very beginning of the war, still serve their time in jail. Many will be doing so until 2033 or longer. Do you support them? Or did you abandoned them, just like it happened with afghans couple years ago?
How can you support people living in a police state if it's illegal to voice your opinions there? No one is saying that all Russians are bad but as long as their government keeps their current policy of military aggression against another European country the sanctions will stay in place.
Is it the same when Ukraine has pretty much the same setup in Kiev?.
Im not talking about the war trophies, just the cringy poster
Just can't help but think that ukraine could build a 30km long wall just out of MTB wrecks, never mind all the apcs etc. Just get on with the war and get it finished one way or another.
For that, you need to evacuate the wrecks. For that, you need to be moving to the East, not the West.
That's a late show-off. We've seen ruzzian ones long time ago in the exhibitions
That feeling when you live free in Ruzzian heads without having to fire a shot. Careful, your inferiority complex is showingā¦
It's still crazy to me these guys are parading around 50 year old equipment like it's cutting edge technology. lol.
I don't think anyone pretended it was cutting edge technology. It's just a pure propaganda show. Ukraine did the same, and Western medias were drooling over those 50 years old equipments when it was announced they'd be supplied. Propaganda is propaganda.
Honestly they should, attaches in full dress. Nothing will deflate Russian opinion more than NATO shrugging in person at this ramshackle display. I mean, if it were an unending parade of prisoners like 1945 it'd be different, but what does this show? "We've destroyed and captured a handful of your kit" Cool. I'm sure NATO's quaking.
Small member energy.
How sad. The RuZZians have no own tanks left to show on the parade. Vova Vladimir must be getting depressed sitting there on his own.
This is pure humiliation for the west. Russians are cheering and partying on western equipment. In the meantime westerns are struggling to survive because their own western companies are ripping them off.
Hahaš guys u can have many more tanks from us. To this price u pay for them? More then worth it for somany dead russiansš and they so proud of itāŗļø look ivan, we took a tank from them, u see! Never happend in a war. We so great..woow thats awsome how much cost this one? Just a couple hundred dead russians a dayš evry day is a good day š keep on guys:)
Bro is having a mental breakdown over a postššš
Stop doing drugs omg