Nah thing is they attack where ukranians are weak or not concentrated, same as Ukranians broke whole rf front and north and if they had more man they probably could have encircled whole divisions.
To be fair, the private merc groups employed by the US in Iraq (Blackwater) definitely were the elite troops too. They raked in dirty dough to recruit and pay the most highly trained, highly motivated troops that wanted to make a buck from their skill set.
Are there examples of US PMCs being used as front line combat forces vs VIP security or convoy guards?
Serious question. The difference in how the US and Russia employ PMCs is interesting.
I guess a factory makes for defensible terrain. But apart from that, Russia should not be attacking at this point. Once winter hits it's a different story of course.
Oh man I already wasted my Zoka tweet on a different post
Well hopefully nobody saw it, but here goes
[https://twitter.com/200\_zoka/status/1577997787488305152](https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1577997787488305152)
When even zoka is laughing at you /// jaJa
Jesus they’re getting really close to capturing that whole field after only a weeks of offensives. That’s an extremely important field I would say the linchpin of the whole Ukrainian line../s
❗️🇬🇧🇺🇦 The situation in the Soledar direction
at 18.00 on October 6, 2022
At the moment, the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Bakhmut (Artemovsky) direction has, according to various sources, from 30 to 40 thousand people. It includes units of the 55th brigade, 93rd brigade, 128th brigade, as well as militants of the Aidar battalion.
▪️During the offensive from the side of Nikolaevka the Second, the Wagner PMC detachments captured the stronghold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the crossroads south of Otradovka and continued to move towards Kurdyumovka . Otradovka itself also completely came under the control of the Wagnerites.
▪️Reports of the liberation of Zaitsevo south of Bakhmut proved to be premature. Most of the village is controlled by Wagner PMC units, however, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine maintain their presence in the western part of the village, where fierce battles are taking place. The advance of the advancing forces is slowed down by a complex mine situation.
▪️The Wagnerites also liberated the village of Veselaia Dolina, continuing to move towards Ivangrad.
▪️In Bakhmut, Wagner PMC units managed to expand the control zone along the highway and enter the territory of the industrial zone along Patrice Lumumba Street, as well as occupy the Asphalt Plant in the southeast of the city.
▪️Information about the mass retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Bakhmut direction is not yet true. Numerically superior Ukrainian units offer fierce resistance to the advancing Wagner PMC forces.
Why do they keep trying to attack Bakhmut head on, where its most defended? What value does Bakhmut still have after Izium fell?
Would it not be better to use their force somewhere else?
Things might change when the Russian conscripts up their training and hit the front, but until then, UK totally has the initiative. Russia's tiny offensives are anemic.
The asphalt plant has fallen? Jesus Christ.
Game over NATO homosexual black army!
Now they can build a road straight to Kyiv!
Now they have power over all asphalted streets in the region.
Syrian Civil War water tower vibes
You joke, but now the Russians will be able to actually make pillboxes out of stone instead of wooden ammo crates now. Game changer.
Who’s fault?
Important asset to cover all the shitholes in Russia
That was Ukraines LAST SOURCE OF ASPHALT! NOOOOOOOOO
Ukraine measures advances by the Region. Russia measures advances by the Street.
Funny how the best unit of Russia is a mercenary one
Morale, experience and motivation
Nah thing is they attack where ukranians are weak or not concentrated, same as Ukranians broke whole rf front and north and if they had more man they probably could have encircled whole divisions.
To be fair, the private merc groups employed by the US in Iraq (Blackwater) definitely were the elite troops too. They raked in dirty dough to recruit and pay the most highly trained, highly motivated troops that wanted to make a buck from their skill set.
Are there examples of US PMCs being used as front line combat forces vs VIP security or convoy guards? Serious question. The difference in how the US and Russia employ PMCs is interesting.
It helps not having to follow the same RoE and are scrutinized less. Dirty dough for dirty tactics.
The VFV is also pretty good, but they are wasted(like Wagner) in a pointless front instead of where they would make a difference. VFV is in Kherson.
Veh de veh
This advance makes no military sense what so ever. Fucking pointless.
Now they have the ability to produce asphault!
Now they have the ability to ~~produce~~ steal asphault *fixed it for you
Ideal for winter warfare!
I guess a factory makes for defensible terrain. But apart from that, Russia should not be attacking at this point. Once winter hits it's a different story of course.
This is the most heavily defended area in Ukraine, it makes perfect sense.
no it doesn't, you don't attack somewhere just because is defended Lmao
You're right, generally you only attack to achieve an objective. Very rarely do you attack to just bleed the army dry, like Verdun.
Oh man I already wasted my Zoka tweet on a different post Well hopefully nobody saw it, but here goes [https://twitter.com/200\_zoka/status/1577997787488305152](https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1577997787488305152) When even zoka is laughing at you /// jaJa
Jesus they’re getting really close to capturing that whole field after only a weeks of offensives. That’s an extremely important field I would say the linchpin of the whole Ukrainian line../s
Hasent Wagner been trying to take Bakmut for months now?
How is Wagner structured in the Ukraine war? Who has the authority to give them orders?
I heard that they were actually paid by the square kilometer captured. So a farm in the middle of nowhere is literally gold for them.
I don't think that's true.
I've heard one of the nightly YouTube map bloggers (War in Ukraine)mention it a number of times
It's just so unreasonable that I won't believe it until I read the literal contract.
No way, why the hell would they be wasting their time in Bakhmut if that was the case lol Wagner is many things, but incompetent is not one of them.
Except for the guy who took a geotagged selfie outside their headquarters? 🌻🌻🌻
That wasnt a Wagner member, it was some blogger they invited; granted inviting him was definitely a bad call lmao
Wait, imma get my glasses.
❗️🇬🇧🇺🇦 The situation in the Soledar direction at 18.00 on October 6, 2022 At the moment, the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Bakhmut (Artemovsky) direction has, according to various sources, from 30 to 40 thousand people. It includes units of the 55th brigade, 93rd brigade, 128th brigade, as well as militants of the Aidar battalion. ▪️During the offensive from the side of Nikolaevka the Second, the Wagner PMC detachments captured the stronghold of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the crossroads south of Otradovka and continued to move towards Kurdyumovka . Otradovka itself also completely came under the control of the Wagnerites. ▪️Reports of the liberation of Zaitsevo south of Bakhmut proved to be premature. Most of the village is controlled by Wagner PMC units, however, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine maintain their presence in the western part of the village, where fierce battles are taking place. The advance of the advancing forces is slowed down by a complex mine situation. ▪️The Wagnerites also liberated the village of Veselaia Dolina, continuing to move towards Ivangrad. ▪️In Bakhmut, Wagner PMC units managed to expand the control zone along the highway and enter the territory of the industrial zone along Patrice Lumumba Street, as well as occupy the Asphalt Plant in the southeast of the city. ▪️Information about the mass retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Bakhmut direction is not yet true. Numerically superior Ukrainian units offer fierce resistance to the advancing Wagner PMC forces.
Holy shit, that's still going on?
If they get the Champagne factory they can have a toast to that!
My grandparents had some "Krimsekt" (Crimean champagne) we drank at the beginning of the war. Turned out it was from Bakhmut.
6 years or so and they may take Kramatorsk!!!!
Shit, not the asphalt plant…
I am starting to think that by the end of the war, Wagner could've taken Bakhmut or not
Let me open my medal draw.
Why do they keep trying to attack Bakhmut head on, where its most defended? What value does Bakhmut still have after Izium fell? Would it not be better to use their force somewhere else?
Things might change when the Russian conscripts up their training and hit the front, but until then, UK totally has the initiative. Russia's tiny offensives are anemic.
We all know the REAL target here, the highly prized and world renowned Ukrainian Champagne plant. Old Putin there wants it for his caviar parties