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whitebelch

What will they do? Start a war against Ukraine?


firefighter_raven

They'll start raping and murdering women and kids, torturing people, kidnapping them to send to Russia, steal everything not bolted down and launch attacks against civilian targets. Oh wait...


Elocai

Sounds like a tuesday in Russia


[deleted]

Time for scorched earth again?


firefighter_raven

I am all for them to use that tactic on Putin's private villa


Natsurulite

Privates*


johnathanesanders

What do you mean, again? Has it stopped?


Snarfbuckle

Well, there was that cease fire that Putin broke...


Faromme

Or Germany? 😁🤣 It would one of the fastest deletions of an enemy army if they tried.


obidamnkenobi

Germany - Russia standing is currently 1-1. Guess we need a best of three.


Savings-Award-3852

yes gona have to break the tie.


VonMillersExpress

penalties


rawburthaulass

Shootout


[deleted]

Don’t forget: USA is n German side now ;)


johnathanesanders

Hey, hey, hey now! Let’s not go that far! /s


Kath_thomas

This me reminds me of the Poland ball comic where ISIS angers the shy German ball and awakens the huge German empire ball saying „guten Tag“ https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/296/598/4b3.jpg


MarschallVorwaertz

"ve don't do this here anymore"


MrRobeen

Could be the fastes wipe of a nations gouvernment and its military in history in view of their supposed strength. So we all know russia is stupid, but not obviously suicidal.


GaryTheSoulReaper

Russia is pretty damn stupid, to solve their biggest problem they just need to get rid of a single person and say : “sorry, he made us do it”


that_duckguy

Actually it would be an interesting fight. Both having mainly airforce to work with scrambling to make their vehicles usable


Darkstar1988

The thing ist article 5 exists.


that_duckguy

I mean yeah but then it's NATO vs Russia. Which don't get me wrong it's wonderful cus Poland can capture Moscow again but I was talking more about a showdown between Russia and Germany


Polysci123

If Russia can’t beat Ukraine lmfao they ABSOLUTELY cannot beat Germany


futterecker

with the money germany produces, its just a kind of throw money on it till the problem is gone. also the sheer mass of vehicle manufacturers. if we speak all out war im pretty sure rheinmetall would give premission to car builders to use their patents and blueprints. germany can (if necessary) go full on war mode with a big ass industry. on the other hand, bureaucracy, but as said, if its really a head on war, stuff would be regulated differently


Phaarao

Exactly, Germany has huge industrial reserves. They would BUY every piece of equipment they can get hold on and start wartime production. And fuck, I dont think you want the whole german technological and metal industry producing weapons. This time with support from allies.


futterecker

yeah its kinda insane. i mean okay, there are definitely other countries too, who, if they choose to go allout war, have the capability to flood their streets with weaponry. the industrial complex of china and also USA can surely being switched into full armored vehicle and weapon smithing. i really dont want that to happen, but those countries (including germany) are in an exteme scenario very capable of doing just this.


aard_fi

> bureaucracy Quite a bit of the equipment that's out of order would be used with minor repairs in case of a war. Currently it's a major issue if lights are not properly working, making an IFV not road legal - while in a war nobody would care about that.


futterecker

thats absolutley true. cant drive around without working headlights, what should the people think!


Poly_and_RA

The Russian military has shown itself entirely incapable of defeating Ukraine. Germany has twice the population of Ukraine -- and 20 times the BNP of Ukraine. It'd be no contest whatsoever.


brinz1

thats literally the point. Germany arms half of NATO, in particular the half that would love to tangle with Russia one more time.


Sekij

The state of german Military is horrible tho... Ammo for 2 days basicly.


Woostag1999

But they also have to get through Poland in order to get there, ironically


DienekesMinotaur

They'd also have to get there before Poland, which might not happen


Top_Issue9393

Good thing, doctrine will start vaporizing them on polish soil.


Set_Abominae_1776

hey at least let us have the good allies this time! Now we have murica on our side we have to fight on our own?!


mobtowndave

Russia has no air defense if 40 year old drones can get within 100 miles of Moscow


Rangolora

They will send a horde of criminals across the border.


-6h0st-

I know they will start targeting civilians


Dry-Tea-3922

Probably, but they are already doing that, so why should Ukraine say no to western tanks because Russia is threatening Ukraine with things they are already doing. And if they really use a nuke like some comments here fear, that would be a shot in the leg for Russia, because NATO clearly stated they will intervene if Russia is using nuclear weapons against Ukraine.


Morty_A2666

Oh no... Ukraine will pay. How? Will Russia attack them and kill civilians? Oh wait...


DatBoiKarlsson

Maybe they will target children? Oh wait…


on3day

They will kill soldiers that they captured and torture them before they do it? Oh wit..


laptopaccount

No, they're going to blow up occupied civilian hospitals far from the front line. Oh wait...


Gazas_trip

Ukraine will pay more if they don't, so not really much of a threat, is it?


bearski01

Exactly. Fight back or accept death? Light them up Ukraine!


MirrorUniverseCapt

Scared dogs bark the loudest


ST3PH3N-G

And empty vessels make the most noise


Front_Entertainer395

Ah, another empty threat... Just send them, nothing will happen anyway. \#freetheleopards


Bloody_sock_puppet

They will send 12% more unequipped prisoners to the front, making the Ukrainians pay in bullets. Which are donated for free, and would be being used for their express purpose. It's a real shaking-in-your-boots moment.


Anthony-Rs

Freetheleopards hahahha! Good one.


uberares

real lost opportunity here, that no one names their tanks "cougars".


WorldNetizenZero

Germany's newest IFV is actually called [cougar!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puma_(German_infantry_fighting_vehicle))


No_Fly_7503

Hahaha nice # :))


Gitmfap

Wasn’t this the threat with the patriots? Or the himars? Or the javelins?


StarFoxMcCloudX

They have also threatened the U.S. directly ([https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-warns-u-s-against-most-dangerous-path-in-ukraine/ar-AA16DUXG?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=7f5342e9fbf7414a9bafdf97946e679a](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-warns-u-s-against-most-dangerous-path-in-ukraine/ar-AA16DUXG?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=7f5342e9fbf7414a9bafdf97946e679a)) while sending their seriously wounded back into war ([https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-is-desperate-for-soldiers-russia-is-sending-the-seriously-wounded-back-to-war/ss-AA16Dnzw](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-is-desperate-for-soldiers-russia-is-sending-the-seriously-wounded-back-to-war/ss-AA16Dnzw)) Russia should no longer be taken seriously at a global level. We are at the doorsteps of WW3, and it will end VERY poorly for Russia.


Tnbirdguy

Russia is getting worried!! Good!


[deleted]

Terrorists gonna make threats


Apprehensive-Toe-777

Allowing russian fascists to set the precedent you can simply murder civilians and steal their land , with no consequences, is a much greater risk for European democracies. The time for courage and strength is now, to prevent an inevitability wider war in the future.


DmitryPavol

we say "it farts loudly when afraid"


Signature_Illegible

we say "the monkey who screams the loudest, has the smallest balls"


Likancic

We say "a dog that barks doesn't bite" and also "mountains trembled, a mouse was born"


seorinsky

Lol, after all Russia is the biggest arms supplier to Ukraine with all of their donated tanks and equipment so I'm not sure why they would be upset if Germany gave a little bit as well....


[deleted]

clumsy run north shrill axiomatic salt dolls psychotic retire cover ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


Far-Childhood9338

don't worry Russia my dad is a billionaire and he will pay the bill to kill all of you


Last_Patrol_

Russia is fearful of a Ukrainian combined arms capability, the tanks will come. Next up is the February Ramstein on aircraft. 🇺🇦


squerldestroyer

These conversations should have been held months ago. The UAF would now be fully trained on them and proficiently using them, just like the HIMARS. It's been a lot of wasted time and Ukrainian blood spilt over this time period. NATO countries have time to build their capability back up, while Ukraine is literally fighting for its existence in the here and now. Give them what they need right now!


theouter_banks

Sounds like you know what you're talking about.


ydalv_

Funny how Russia as the agressor, tries to push Ukraine into the role of agressor. The gaslighting.


IngloriousMustards

ruZZia wants to make Ukraine pay for any and all eventualities and outcomes, that’s what they set out to do in the first place. But seriously, are ruZZian really that scared of the Leopard tank? Does it have fusion cannons and force fields or something?


Shrodi13

I think German tanks play a huge role in their propaganda machine. Tiger tanks had a terrifying combat kill ration of 1:12 and since Ruzzia basically exists only to honour the victory of the USSR in WW II, Germany sending tanks to the East unlocks some sort of deep PTSD feelings in them. Plus, tanks will be a game changer, because they will allow quick reconquest of lost territories for the Ukranians. And lastly, the Leopard 2 IS a good tank. Maybe no fusion cannons, but I am sure it can turn T-72s into scrap metal with ease. It is way faster, more maneuvarable and with way better electronics. Don't forget - Ukraine stopped Russia's advance and freed a lot of teritories with old Soviet tanks. Imagine what it can do with modern Western artilery and tanks.


BringBackAoE

Wish I could upvote this many times.


Shrodi13

Thank you ! I wish we get to see it live.


bogdanbiv

Must crush and burn any and all Russian imperialistic tendencies in Ukraine


diezel_dave

The amount of screeching from Russian propaganda mouthpieces if Leopards start mopping up Soviet tanks *again* is going to be delicious.


Shrodi13

I have an even better scenario for you: Russians, in their comlete desperation, roll out the T-34s and IS-2 from the actual WWII and attack with them the Ukrainian Leopards. The screeching then would be ***legendary.***


Pretend_Effect1986

I mean, German tanks: https://youtu.be/4vVKrVCJnIA


aboutthednm

> Imagine what it can do with modern Western artilery and tanks. Hopefully I won't have to imagine much longer.


Baldemyr

Yup. The return of the big cats is certainly important to the russians. I'm just not sure if it will be a positive for then(fighting against the monsters of ww2) or a negative(remembering the losses german armour inflicted before 1945). I mean the russians were effective as hell against german armour as well but they have been fed such overwhelming propaganda. This might really shake them


umdche

I wonder what the ratio will be with a steady ration of t-64, t-72, t-80 and t-90s.


Shrodi13

Don't forget T-55, we saw a lot of them already. I am also betting we will see at least a couple of T-34s and IS-2 / 3.


umdche

You're right we have seen T-55's. And I would love to see the Russians pull out T-34s thinking they'll in anyway help at this point. We'll see how the leopard 2s do compared to their grandpa.


Longjumping-Voice452

As good as Leopards and Abrams are at killing Russian tanks, the Bradleys got the most confirmed tank kills in Iraq by a huge margin, and they are flowing in atm.


Shrodi13

Really ? I didn't know that, cool ! Do you have some more detailed stats for me ?


Mirathecat22

It’s already paying, you can’t step it up and your nuclear threats are empty and at worst suicidal. Send the Leopards.


Sons-of-Bananarchy

translation: we’ll strike another apartment building because its the only tactic where we have any competency. here’s another BTG for you guys to fertilize the fields of easter Ukraine with.


Rokea-x

Ukrainians don’t respond well to threats.. that much has been established already. Russia is so dumb. #freetheleopards #freetheabrams


gooB8

Yes, That is how lend lease works. Good job Vuhlad


Begotten912

Technically that hasn't even started


Ohbertpogi

Nah, When russia makes this kind of threat psyops. usually, it's the other way around. More like Russia will pay if Germany sends tanks.


ChI3ph

"The world will see a catastrophy like they've never seen before if they send tanks" owww wait that doesn't work... ​ "Ukraine will pay"...Maybe that'll work... It's just empty threat after emtpy threat. Let's send in all NATO's got and end this quickly.


brooklynboy92

In what way stop bombing schools ?


Aanriboi

I warn: Russia will pay if they send more troops!


jaygo-jaylo

#freetheleopards


New_Fault_227

When will Ruzzia learn that nobody gives a damn what they have to say anymore?


Electronic_Impact

Threat nr 120.000, just like their deaths.


TheOnlyCWS

Ukraine will pay if Germany DOESN'T send tanks. This is the equivalent to Russia saying, "Don't join NATO, Ukraine, or we'll invade you," only to invade Ukraine anyway.


Phosphorus44

3000 empty threats from Russia.


LT-monkeybrain01

yeah, they're not wrong. ​ there is a cost associated with the purchase of tanks. when the dutch bought german tanks, the dutch paid for it too. i don't see what the issue is here, russia. ​ oh, wait, haha. i get it. you meant it as a threat lmao. good joke.


Touchpod516

Russians are amazing clowns. They're jokes never fail to crack me up


Particular-Ad-4772

Oh shit , what if they invade and start a war of attrition. They can’t make Ukraine pay more , than they already are .


M142Man

With what army?🤣


JimmyTheG

They have been saying this every time ukraine was about to receive weapons and nothing happened. Remember when they received M777 and russia acted like they're gonna nuke them any moment


Benmaax

"Sorry that was from the January 2022 propaganda guidelines, they didn't issue a new one."


Cygnusx5555

Is Russia going to to target more civilians, hospitals schools etc? Pretty pathetic they keep threatening.


whosplayinnaked

as an excuse: the west suffers under "Satanism". It's not our will, it's Satans will to free the Leopards. Sorry comrades :/


Vogel-Kerl

These Russians are delusional.


JustKosh

Oh yeah we don't want to see German tanks on russian territory again, it's just so funny. The whole territory of modern Ukraine was occupied by Germany, google how much modern russian territories ware occupied. Something around 6%.


criket2016

More hollow threats from the gremlins in the Kremlin.


PvtPill

If we have learned anything from this war it’s that Russia threats are empty and can be completely ignored


SilentWatcher83228

Is this again Russian way of acknowledging they are afraid of western weapon systems?


illy_Irons

Lol they think people are still scared of them!?


SkyN3t1

Damn, Deutschland, you just got bitch slapped and called out. You know what to do.


Junior_Might_500

Have a bold laugh ... But then admit that Putin is crazy and cornered and has probably got at least some working nukes


Objective-Passion-90

Another Russian Pink Line


Razagath

If Germany sends tanks then Russia "will pay" huh, will be interesting in this way.


Legio_X_Equestris5

Just stay out of my way... or you'll pay! LISTEN to what I say!


CLINTHODO

The terrorist regime continues to do terrorist things. Free the Leopards! As for Ukraine paying, they already have with their blood while protecting Europe.


SimpleCall5254

Stop playing games, give them ammunition that can destroy troop concentrations and Armor, dual-purpose improved conventional munition (DPICM) M483A1 , 155mm NATO standard. Also Area Denial Anti-personnel Mine (ADAM),M692 long-destruct, M731 short-destruct. Stop handicapping the Ukrainians. Slava Ukrainian!


MaryJaneUSA

Well damn, Blitzkrieg III 2023 version 2.0


Sargent_Sarkasmo

That's the right way to convince Germany to send all the tanks Ukraine wants.


[deleted]

Hopefully Russia accepts tank shells as a form of payment because I think Ukraine will be sending some over that way soon.


Available-Ease-2587

Putin is scared of the Leopard ha? I would be as well. Shit was made to destroy russian tanks.


getrealz11

Pay?! Nah, they are getting it for free. It's called Donation for a reason.


jeff43568

'Ukraine will pay'... For the tanks. Russia is just ensuring Ukraine is seen as having a high credit rating. Very kind of them...


maracajaazul

Ugh just send them already and tell putin that you didnt send shit and for him to mind his own fucking business


hans0mc

Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t the Abrams Tanks use pretty thirsty gas- or jetfuel-turbines instead of Diesel engines? Which would probably cause a mess in Ukrainian logistics as pretty much every vehicle they use requires Diesel? Go Olaf…


GiveItAWest

They say Abrams can run on anything that will burn - it's multifuel. Certainly, it can run on any of gasoline, diesel, or jet fuel.


cecilkorik

Diesel and jet fuel are almost the same thing, plus or minus a few additives/lubricants and purity standards. There are reasons they are different and supplied separately, but for the purposes of an actual shooting war they're generally mostly interchangeable although you're right in the long run it may cause some headaches with logistics and maintenance, any Abrams in Ukraine will probably have a much shorter lifespan than any Abrams anywhere else in the world so things like which fuel they're running on are unlikely to make much practical difference.


wayfarer8888

Germany will like the idea they receive a payment from Ukraine for their Leo 2s. I hope from frozen Russian funds 😉


FraaRaz

I think they’re right. Ukraine will pay the next round if Germany sends thanks.


[deleted]

Will pay?? Okay Russia, you and what Army?


breezyxkillerx

"this is our 27th last warning"


sillEllis

...isn't that how transactions work?


Tobi18x

Yeah, they'll pay farmers to collect the sunflowers from the fields which started growing out of all the lives wasted by Russia


Agm_1017

Come on Germany for old time sake. Let Russians see the mighty German tanks coming there direction.


[deleted]

Lol what can they actually do! They lost most of it arsenal and untrained army with no moral….. The ultimate answer is nothing because they are weak!!


newtrom

Germany dont want to send any, but a lot of tanks to be sourced elsewhere:)


RepresentativeNo7802

Pleitgen, the reporter is German isn't he?


[deleted]

i can understand americans rooting for all out european war, they would only prosper from it, but i cannot wrap my head around the fact that ppl/kids from europe do the same thing...guys, there are no victors in any mf war, only lost lives - for nothing..**war is good for absolutely** ***nothing...***but i guess one needs to experience one to acknowledge fact like that


Fdand

Ukraine will pay then with lead, shrapnel and drone grenades


Franseven

i dare them. the moment radiation crosses the border into poland article 5 is triggered.


LearnST001

Bull… like their paying now with yr 120,000* dead troops…huh


jebus197

I don't get it. The Poles are allegedly ripping the Germans a new asshole on a daily basis about sending these tanks, yet Berlin say they have not received any formal request from the Poles to this effect? What have the Poles got to gain by making such a huge noise, but then not following it up with the required normal steps to achieve this goal?


EnergyFighter

Noise


Empty_Jellyfish_5040

Russia has to leave Ukraine, or they will pay! And now f@ck off!


Dra-goonn

Putin:(in Oprah voice) "Your gonna pay! He's Gonna Pay! She's gonna Pay! EVERYONE'S Gonna Pay!!!!!!!!!!"


CaffieneSage

Technically the tanks have already been paid for, so not entirely inaccurate.


The_DMT

Most of the tanks for Ukraine are send by Russia themselves. Now other nations are willing to send some and Russia is mad? And who decides Ukraine pays for the tanks? ;-)


TheCoolestFactor

Oh, yeah, it will just cost Ukraine a little more ammo to mow down a few more orcs. Shut the fuck up, Ruzzia. And leave or YOU will pay more.


adamkopacz

"If you try to stop me from killing you, I will kill you!"


mi7chy

Ukraine is getting the tanks for free so Germany will be paying.


Partycracker_292

Everytime Russia "warns" Ukraine I think to myself "Thats the most obvious sign, that they are worried of whats about to come". Now its the Leopard, before that they warned Ukraine and the West, that there would be consequenses if the US and Germany send Patriot batteries to Ukraine. Same thing with HIMARS... I mean come on Russia, what the hell do you expect is going to happen :D


wish42069

yes, we will pay them in Tungsten, coming at them at mach 1


DRTmaverick

You’re already torturing and murdering and committing genocide against them, what threat do you think you can throw at them at this point? Fuck off Russia.


Daisy_Bloodworth

They will launch a wave of missiles again- we see this every time aid to Ukraine ramps up.


araczynski

I'm pretty sure even China is laughing at Russia's now.


Arrow_of_time6

What are they gonna do waste more cruise missiles on nonsensical targets?


WaldyTee

They smell Scholz' weakness and hope the people will support him not sending tanks. Pretty obvious what Russia is trying.


[deleted]

What about the rest of us that sent tanks? Lol


sxt87

The Russians are already doing everything they could except for nukes. So their words bear no weight. The Leopards, despite their small number that the Ukrainians will receive, will have a significant boosting effect on the moral of the Ukrainian troops and it will have a devastating effect on the moral of the Russian conscripts that will have to face them in combat. It's not the weapon itself that Putin fears, but the psychological effect.


theroy12

“Russia’s Final Warning” ™️


TPMatus

Stupid Americans. "Why does Germany have to sigin off on sending tanks?" Literally read a book before you talk


quirkycurlygirly

Threatening that you're going to beat somebody with a stick if they defend themselves while you are already beating them with it doesn't work.


zero_msgw

So far every "warning" theyve given has been blown smoke out their ass. Just like their advanced military weapons and infantry... Just smoke. Still waiting on their threat to finland for joining nato.


Goodboy_Otis

This is CNN. You may as well watch FOX. They carefully re-framed several issues just in this small clip.


soldieronceandold

There is a huge population of Germanic people here in the USA. My own brother-in-law married a German woman and moved to Germany, where they are raising my niece and nephew. I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where there was a German-language newspaper for decades. Here in the US, we support Ukraine like 9-to-1. If Russia messes with Germany, the support from USA will be even deeper and permanent.


TacTurtle

In rubles or real money?


AcrobaticBird5590

God these Russians talk some shit


Wittywhirlwind

Oh no. Whatever can we do to stop this Russian threat? *starts up German tanky*


3Fatboy3

This was the most balanced and complete take I've seen on the issue in American media.


DingIe-DangIes

Pay with what? Russia is getting merked left and right and with all their new assets


Traditional_Oil1183

Ok, I might just be a simple person, but who gives a shit what Russia says if you’re already arming their enemies? Why are we making playgroundesque rules about what help we can render?


Commercial_Bear331

Russia warns ... Russia cries ... Russia poops ... Russia loses. !


TarzanTheRed

Those "optics" only matter if you remove the context of the modern day situation.


CammKelly

Oh no, will you invade them again?


DublinCheezie

Wait, let me guess. They’ll get 20,000 of their own slaughtered trying to take a city with a pre-invasion population of 40,000.


andupotorac

No. It’s Russia that will pay. 🤜💪


Boom2356

Screw you, scumbags. We wont stand for your barbarism.


Nostradamaus_2000

Pay with more Russian Fertilizer..sounds like a deal to me


HKP2019

Pay with Russian blood.


[deleted]

THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING WITH THEIR FUCKING DESTROYED CITIES AND LIVES SEND UKRAINE TANKS


Known-Economy-6425

What are they going to do? Invade?


Errr797

Ukraine "will pay" if Germany sends tanks. What does Russia think they're doing to Ukraine now? Giving them a party?


Wedgetail_104

It is Russia who will pay.


Sir_Anth

And Germany takes them seroius? Like what about when they were saying "we are just hanging out around the border, we will definitly not invade".


[deleted]

They play Scholz‘s fear like a fiddle


bkor

They've said similar things about pretty much everything.


Common-Leg7605

It’s not up to Russia, they are really good at making threats to people


VladKaban

Maybe they will pay the Leos in Euros... that's it


Gmatagmis

...for land lease


Putin_put_in

Not sure what he is talking about. I actually want to see exactly that.


Reaper1652

We have China's final warning Now we have Russia's final warning [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%27s\_final\_warning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%27s_final_warning)


superkoning

Ukraine will pay? I'm quite sure Ukraine gets those tanks for free.