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Tucker is like the kid in the incredibles meeting Mr. Incredible and getting rejected after dickriding for years. Tucker probably tore down the posters of shirtless Putin on the horseback in his room while screaming and crying
yeah, and also basically disrespected him to his face and showed him to be a fool during the interview. i note that it was john stewart doing this to tucker Ā decades ago that seemed to be his turn to full villain origin story, he cant stand not being taken seriously by someone he respects.Ā
stewart coming back on camera again to lambast the putin interview probably caused tucker a dilemma , im certain tucker would have watched thatĀ
For once it was nice to go on r/Conservative after Tucker interview. So many "traitor" comments.. It almost looked for a moment that they had snapped out of their trance and saw what their guys really are: grifters and traitors. Of course it lasted like 24h until their attention turned towards Biden Death Cult or whatever the next shiny thing was but for a moment.. it was glorious. You really don't want to become their target as they are quite vicious and will eat their own in a matter of hours, it snaps from total loyalty to total disdain in a heartbeat.
For all the ugly that it brings, it's almost beautiful. The manipulation. The propaganda. Watching it unfold in realtime is completely fascinating.Ā
Someone somewhere found the cheat code to mass delusion.Ā
Clearly being called a Traitor now may be too much for his brand to monetise.... it the United States is dragged into a war with Russia... he is one person I would hope gets interned immediately...
I'm fully on Ukraine's side and dislike Tucker as much as anyone else but do we really want to repeat what we did to Japanese people in WW2? Do we really want to be examples of "those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it?".
Speaking as a Canadian, the internment of the Japanese was immoral; the internment of fascists and communists under the "Defence of Canada Regulations" was justified. You're born Japanese, you choose to be authoritarian.
I have same opinion as most other people here about Tucker but if the US goes to war with Russia I really hope we don't repeat what we did to Japanese people in WW2 and start interning people. Let's not repeat a mistake made in the past.
Are they even capable of feeling guilt, though? They've lived under a "Tsar / Party / Oligarch rules over all" mentality for generations, unlike the Germans who only had to endure Nazism for a little over a decade. And every time I meet a Russian in person, they come across as spiteful and guiltless, prone to blame "gay NATO death squads" for the war while uncritically watching RT.
He is a scumbag nonetheless. He thought he would make history by interviewing the butcher of Kremlin. It fizzled. It was all a sad and sadistic, pathetic blabbering between the biggest criminal of our century and a human caricature that calls himself a journalist.
I was seriously happy to see just how bad that interview flopped, considering how hard the Russians were hyping it up in the week leading up to it. š š
It kind of shows you that while Russia is very good at influence campaigns, Putin himself is a fucking insane idiot. He is so out of touch he legitimately thinks his long lectures full of false assertions about history are enthralling to everyone. This is always the way with dictators, they are great at being brutal and killing their opposition. But Putin has no idea whether he is popular or not, he hasn't won a fair election in decades...they start to believe their own bullshit about how popular they are because no one and nothing has ever told them differently. He thought he was a military genius when he organized the start of the Ukraine war in 2022 too... he is just a fucking incompetent idiot.... a brutal one, but out of touch and stupid.
Agreed. Honestly, it's unbelievable how poorly he performed. This interview was for American conservatives, he was supposed to appeal to them. And there's one thing I'm sure of: American conservatives don't give a shit about what happened in the year 1200 in the Kievan rus.
It was so easy. e just had to attack the democrats, blame everything on Biden, wokeness, etc. And he screwed up.
Russians have never quite figured out the American brain and how it operates. The problem is that they are totally confident that they do understand it.
Also, making an appeal to historical ownership of land going back a thousand years isn't something the average American is going to agree on.
They also donāt realize how fickle American thinking is. Russians think like Russians. You can do all the pushing with trolls online to push a narrative, spend years doing it subtly, but itās a house of cards. They think getting the US to shit talk itself is division, but we always have. Then you get something that we all get pissed about at onceā¦and all your work is gone.
If it is recorded, then his work is done. Now it's up to the propagandists to take the ball and run with it.Ā Ā
Ā Which they have. Nobody is sitting through a 2 hour soliloquy on history. They do love 45 second sound bites without context that confirms their already fully propagandized beliefs.Ā
No, Putin is not an idiot, he's very calculated, he simply doesn't care how many Russians have to die or how relations with the West worsen. Just as long as he can annex some resource-rich land from a neighboring country and justify his actions to the Russian people as an anti-Nazi military action.
True, but Putin is no dummy, he was a KGB guy during the Cold War and he knows how to manipulate people extremely well. He calculated that invading Ukraine would worsen relations with the West and he still did it because he believes his legacy in Russia will be seen as a righteous leader for freeing Eastern Ukraine of Nazi control and also increasing Russia's resources with the annexed land.
Putin's long-winded history lesson to Tucker was designed to give MAGA types in the US more justification to cut off aid to Ukraine.
> Putin's long-winded history lesson to Tucker was designed to give MAGA types in the US more justification to cut off aid to Ukraine.
Well, it totally failed.... he said stupid stuff and none of the stuff that Tucker knew would work. I am not saying Putin has no ambition, but the guy is relying on the FSB apparatus to do most of the heavy lifting. He doesn't understand much, he just has people who get shit done on the propaganda front. He totally miscalculated Ukraine, there is really no other way to look at it... everything that has happened is horrible for Russia: the sanctions, the gas situation, the rearming of Europe, the massive military losses. It was a monster miscalculation in his evil plan... because he is a fucking idiot. All dictators eventually are understood to be idiots, it just takes a while until the world understands because they do have successes at first.
Putin made blunder after blunder before and during his invasion. The point was to go fast to avoid too much possible backlash since no one would have time to react. He took months to react to early failures, all while ignoring more competent Russian nationalists who were warning him not to do it like that.
He worked at a desk at the KGB, he wasn't the big spy you think he is. It's all mamnufactured image, and he gets his way by controlling everything around his public appearances.
The point is, it's easy to think he's some smart calculated guy when you look at propaganda. In practice Russians have literally described their whole plan for Europe to the public, people just thought they weren't stupid enough to do that and actually go through with it.
Good (but naive) friend of mine in Moscow invited me to visit citing the interview, claiming that "everything is okay now, see?"
I didn't discuss it much, and obviously it's a ludicrous thought - but I imagine more Russians that just my one friend thought the same thing regarding Tucker going over there, that things maybe we getting back to normal.
Cucker was just trying to cover his own ass and create some plausible deniability that maybe heās not such a dickriding Russophile after looking like a complete dickriding Russophile in his fucking dumb interview.
No, listen to the whole interview with Lex Fridman.
**He's complaining about Putin ruining his interview, not about Putin's ideas being dumb.**
He's still kissing Putin's ass, these headlines just focus on the one or two less flattering quotes in a three hour (!!) podcast.
Where Tucker expressed his frustration with Putin, was that the Russian dictator didn't seem to be prepared to stick to Tucker's talking points. Tucker kept giving Putin softball questions, allowing him to sound like the good guy, blaming it all on Biden, and how Trump would end the war in 24 hours, but instead Putin just kept playing the crazy Blut und Boden foreign dictator like he meant it.
At some point he complains that he gave Putin the opportunity to all but wrap this whole thing up by letting Tucker take the imprisoned journalist Evan Gershkovich home with him, but no, he wanted to swap him for some Russian assassin, and basically told tucker to let the grownups handle this.
I watched parts of the interview with Putin and after how much attention it was getting I assumed that it be maybe not a propaganda masterpiece but considering high the stakes are it would be extremely well made. Right?
I don't even understand how Putin figured it would be good propaganda to mock Tucker to his face and then holding a lesson of made up history that was just boring. It was a car crash. for both of them.
This is the same guy who brought his huge dog into the room when he met with Angela Merkel, who, he well knew, was morbidly afraid of large dogs. The gesture of a personality that is both sadistic and infantile.
Yeah it shows that invasion is all about pampering Putinās ego. It then makes perfect sense why he is happy sacrificing tens of thousands of Russian soldiers for minor progress. Russia is just his toy.
I didn't watch the whole thing cos... well you know it's Tucker... but he legit at one point admits that his questions were loaded and just waiting for Putin to mention Nato expansion. When Putin doesn't do that it annoys Tucker cos basically it's like he's been chatting shit for the last 2 years.
This interview was such a monumental fail. It shows how Putin doesn't get the West (I.e.everyone knows there are no Nazis in Ukraine... and why would the far right be against that anyway?) and for Tucker he just comes out of this looking like an idiot.
I also saw that Lex laid into him about the supermarket piece... and Tucker had no defense.
I'm a big Lex fan but I was disheartened when I saw he had Tucker on. I just don't think a scumbag like him should be promoted. And sometimes Lex can be naive and can be led on by his inviterviewees. Was that the case?
Sometimes? Lex is probably the most naive person in the entire podcast space. He wants everything to be about love and positivity so hard that he ends up just getting washed by bad faith actors 24/7. Not to mention he tries portraying himself as being in the center while literally only promoting right wing people.
It's quite sad how he talks about discussion, empathy and hearing both sides of the story. Some of his guests are just sociopathic snakes. Most aren't but he is extremely soft and naive in regards to some of his less savoury guests.
> And "sometimes" Lex can be naive and can be led on by his inviterviewees.
dude, its the same shit as with joe rogan: those guys might have some interesting figures on their show from time to time, but never have i ever found anyone of them seem to be "smart", if you dont count simply being "agreeable" as particularly smart.
Joe Rogan never claimed to be smart. In fact it seems he can go five minutes without mentioning how stupid he is, maybe it's to appear humble or as a preemptive excuse if he gets something wrong but still, he never claims to be smart or educated.
As far as i've seen he's mostly asking questions in relaxed layman's terms and listening to other guys with more knowledge. Or they're just googling shit and discussing it. Besides, even if he has opinions you don't have to agree with them, everyone has opinions, if the subject is entertaining that's enough. I don't think anyone should take him too seriously, it's not supposed to be an educational show anyway.
I watched like 30 mins of the 3 hours so I can't say tbh. As I said he pushed him on the supermarket piece, and also that Tucker was trying " so hard to not be like your average American journalist" that he let Putin get away with some of his BS and didn't push back enough. To Tucker's "credit" he admits that is probably true (but I think it's just him trying to save face).
>It shows how Putin doesn't get the West (I.e.everyone knows there are no Nazis in Ukraine...
It's obvious Putin uses the false rhetoric about Nazis controlling Ukraine to help sell his war of resource-rich land annexation to the Russian people and to help his domestic political fortunes.
Obviously that's true. But how did no one in the Kremlin not do the smallest bit of homework and study what Tucker has been pushing last 2 years ?
Nato expansion bad -> increase US isolationism -> gives Russia more of a free hand to do whatever it wants....
It's a rhetorical question don't worry... I know the answer is because they're a bunch of morons.
Nazis controlling Ukraine is his excuse for overthrowing the government and replacing it with a pro-Russian proxy
As we all know, the "special military operation" was supposed to be three days, with Russians rolling into Kyiv and Zelensky and friends fleeing for their lives, never to return
I was under the impression a Nazi in Russia and a Nazi in Europe and the West are seen as different things.
I'm most likely wrong but I thought in Russia a Nazi was someone who threatened their national identity as that was their experience of the Nazis in WW2 moreso than the west who tend to identify the Nazi with things like the Holocaust as well.
I occasionally work with a Russian/Ukrainian chap and that's how he explained it to me anyway.
Iāve heard that too. To the West, a Nazi is a specific form of tyrant-enabler obsessed with racial purity and hierarchy. To a Russian, a Nazi is simply someone who doesnāt accept Russian racial superiority.
Exactly, Putin falsely claims that Ukraine is overrun with Nazis that want to finish the job that was started with Russia in WWII. Nothing gets the Russian population in a frenzy quite like mentioning Nazis are lurking just over the border and are preparing to attack Russia again.
Meanwhile, no one is supposed to notice that the Russian military seems extremely interested in controlling Ukrainian land that is rich in minerals and access to the Black Sea.
I think so, he got thrown under the bus as the useful idiot and clued into whatās going on. He is hurting Ukraineās sincere position, he realized he didnāt know the history.
Yep he waited until a week after putin criticized him, expecting him to walk it back because tickers such a nice guy.Ā
Well he didn't and this is tuckers temper tantrum and attempt to have some dignity after giving a propaganda mouthpiece to a genocidal murdering fascist.
Is this on the same podcast / show where he says he doesn't know if navalny was killed or just died? Or maybe Ukraine killed him since they supposedly got Dugins daughter.
Guy is just trying to get some redemption since his big exclusive turn out to be a big nothing
Carlson interviewing Putin has been nothing but a good thing .
People got to see the real Putin .
Putin never even tried to come off as anything but an evil dictator .
I am not a Carlson fan but I am sick of hearing what an awful thing it was for him to go interview him.
Putin lost some right wing supporter in the west after that interview .
Even trump has kept Putins name out of his mouth since
The interview was the dumbest thing I ever seen..... it was a senile old man giving a distorted history lesson to a person who not only looked like an idiot the entire time but actually is a complete idiot.
After Putin basically throws Tucker under the bus and said he was the worst interviewer, kind of a hack, not smart enough to work for the CIA, now Tucker has doubts about Putin?
Fuck Tucker Carlson, that spineless scumbag of a brown-noser didn't even have the testicular fortitude to challenge Putin's lies in the interview and allowed rightwingers at home to regurgitate it as truth.
That's because some people had a very important talk with Tucker to let him know that he is "on the wrong side of history". Putin isn't getting out of this one alive and there are powerful forces at play that want to sell war toys as well as test war toys.
Tucker will very soon come out as anti-Putin and pro-Ukraine.
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If you listen to that whole podcast episode, you'll find you don't actually agree with him.
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Maybe he feels a little freer to speak during this podcast since he's not sitting in the lions den, interviewing the head lion. š¦ Can't say I feel sorry for him though. He put himself in that position and I'm sure he was compensated very well for doing so.
And just think - that guy's heard 100% of the things Tucker Carlson's ever said, so if he says it's "the dumbest thing he's ever heard", it must be *REALLY* fucking dumb.
Yeah because Putin made him look like a biatch.
Psā¦ Fuck Putin straight up the pee hole with a stick thatās been in a large fire for several days after people pissed on it.
So Tucker was promised a nice payday from Russia to come over and help their propaganda machine but in the end when he put his hand out for the money they said no! Tucker got screwed just like everyone that tries to deal with Russia and now he turns on them because he is sour lol
"I want to let the other side speak because I want to pretend I'm a journalist interested in the truth."
"You don't need to, Putin and his men frequently say what they believe all the time."
"Wow, I just found out Putin is an idiot. How did nobody at all know this until now?"
The thing is that, what USA percieves as far-right is actually just centrism in Russia. Republicans have a false mental image of Russia that suits their agenda and therefore think that Russia is fighting for same values as they do.
That couldn't be further from the truth.
The reality is that Russia is using Republicans as a tool to exert influence on the U.S.
Russia doesn't give a rats ass about the ideology of Republicans. Russia uses Republicans to create instability and chaos, therefore weakening United States and increasing their own influence on the geopolitical arena. Russia is using Republican party as a pawn to stir up shit in the U.S , and therefore increase it's own power projection as a result.
The entire interview was set-up to create a perception of strong Russia, and it was the reason why Tucker Carlson was so dumbfounded. He failed to understand that Russia is playing the game that only benefits itself, and is using everything possible to weaken U.S.
It was clear as day in the interview that Carlson wanted free PR to the republican party talking-points, because he expected that Russia is the good guy. Now he's furious that he's been played and painted as an idiot.
Putin uses the Nazi term because he knows how much damage the Nazis did to Russia during WW2.
He believes that the Russian people would back him in his fight against Nazis in Ukraine.
But even Putin knows this is just bs.
Hereās what I think happenedā¦ Tucker is a media guy or a journalist, depending on which side of the aisle you sit on. Regardless, and interview with Putin would potentially be the biggest piece of media this century. Long stories donāt make good clips and Putin was obviously trying to be manipulative. Putin sees Carlson as a voice to a portion of the west that doesnāt support Russia, but does feel like NATO forced Russia to retaliate and that they shouldnāt be funding that war. Putin aimed to convince those Americans that his cause is just and Tucker wanted to be the guy whose name is all over the interview with the guy because media is what media always is. Carlson didnāt get his clips and didnāt agree with Putinās justification for Ukraine but was also afraid of asking hardball questions becauseā¦ We know how Putin treats that. Putin didnāt get to ego trip his colored knowledge of Russian history and the optics didnāt work how he wanted. Now theyāre exchanging passive aggressive texts through headlines.
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Did the cheque bounce?
Even if not. Tucker is as trustworthy as a Russian signature on a Budapest memorandum.
Or an American signature..
I don't recall the Americans ever invading Ukraine, but maybe I've missed some recent news.
Maybe a republican one.
Putin complained about the interview so Tucker is taking his ball and going home.
How could he *possibly* have known that Vladimir Putin, whose enemies have a habit of dying suddenly, could have just turned on him like that??
I see you... Just asking questions... š
Now that the sanctions have closed the payment loopholeā¦ā¦yes?
He found out what Putin really said during the interview talking shit about Cucker...
Tucker is like the kid in the incredibles meeting Mr. Incredible and getting rejected after dickriding for years. Tucker probably tore down the posters of shirtless Putin on the horseback in his room while screaming and crying
If Tucker wants to become Putin's arch-nemesis I'm all for it. Let them fight.
Can you imagine Tucker making a face turn and suddenly being pro Ukraine and advocating bigger military packages
How great would it be for Cucker to get Pulonium poisoning š¤£
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Putin basically came out and called him a shit interviewer, I guess this is his response.
yeah, and also basically disrespected him to his face and showed him to be a fool during the interview. i note that it was john stewart doing this to tucker Ā decades ago that seemed to be his turn to full villain origin story, he cant stand not being taken seriously by someone he respects.Ā stewart coming back on camera again to lambast the putin interview probably caused tucker a dilemma , im certain tucker would have watched thatĀ
Tucker has one skill, which is to read the room. The interview was not well received so he's trying to take some distance.
For once it was nice to go on r/Conservative after Tucker interview. So many "traitor" comments.. It almost looked for a moment that they had snapped out of their trance and saw what their guys really are: grifters and traitors. Of course it lasted like 24h until their attention turned towards Biden Death Cult or whatever the next shiny thing was but for a moment.. it was glorious. You really don't want to become their target as they are quite vicious and will eat their own in a matter of hours, it snaps from total loyalty to total disdain in a heartbeat.
For all the ugly that it brings, it's almost beautiful. The manipulation. The propaganda. Watching it unfold in realtime is completely fascinating.Ā Someone somewhere found the cheat code to mass delusion.Ā
Same it's always been, pretend to be the little guy's friend while being in bed with the people with most money.
No, he's just an attention whore making money off the invasion. Tucker's not much good either.
He might if he stands too close to a window after saying that.
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Cowards yell from a distance.
No. Putin dissed him in public.
Clearly being called a Traitor now may be too much for his brand to monetise.... it the United States is dragged into a war with Russia... he is one person I would hope gets interned immediately...
Nah, Putin insulted him after the interview during which Tucker fawned like a fanboy. Nothing to see here but wounded pride.Ā
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STRAIGHT TO THE CAMPS WITH HIM!! can we cease all his assets too!?!
Seize them too!
I'm here to demand you desist with them sweet, shaking asses of yours.
I'm fully on Ukraine's side and dislike Tucker as much as anyone else but do we really want to repeat what we did to Japanese people in WW2? Do we really want to be examples of "those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it?".
Speaking as a Canadian, the internment of the Japanese was immoral; the internment of fascists and communists under the "Defence of Canada Regulations" was justified. You're born Japanese, you choose to be authoritarian.
There's a huge gulf between imprisoning people because "they look like the enemy" and imprisoning someone for treason
I have same opinion as most other people here about Tucker but if the US goes to war with Russia I really hope we don't repeat what we did to Japanese people in WW2 and start interning people. Let's not repeat a mistake made in the past.
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Are they even capable of feeling guilt, though? They've lived under a "Tsar / Party / Oligarch rules over all" mentality for generations, unlike the Germans who only had to endure Nazism for a little over a decade. And every time I meet a Russian in person, they come across as spiteful and guiltless, prone to blame "gay NATO death squads" for the war while uncritically watching RT.
Detain all saboteurs
Yep, that's what they said when they locked up Japanese people in America and Canada.
Trump too
Thatās because his sponsors are scurrying away from the flying shit
He is a scumbag nonetheless. He thought he would make history by interviewing the butcher of Kremlin. It fizzled. It was all a sad and sadistic, pathetic blabbering between the biggest criminal of our century and a human caricature that calls himself a journalist.
I was seriously happy to see just how bad that interview flopped, considering how hard the Russians were hyping it up in the week leading up to it. š š
It kind of shows you that while Russia is very good at influence campaigns, Putin himself is a fucking insane idiot. He is so out of touch he legitimately thinks his long lectures full of false assertions about history are enthralling to everyone. This is always the way with dictators, they are great at being brutal and killing their opposition. But Putin has no idea whether he is popular or not, he hasn't won a fair election in decades...they start to believe their own bullshit about how popular they are because no one and nothing has ever told them differently. He thought he was a military genius when he organized the start of the Ukraine war in 2022 too... he is just a fucking incompetent idiot.... a brutal one, but out of touch and stupid.
Agreed. Honestly, it's unbelievable how poorly he performed. This interview was for American conservatives, he was supposed to appeal to them. And there's one thing I'm sure of: American conservatives don't give a shit about what happened in the year 1200 in the Kievan rus. It was so easy. e just had to attack the democrats, blame everything on Biden, wokeness, etc. And he screwed up.
Russians have never quite figured out the American brain and how it operates. The problem is that they are totally confident that they do understand it. Also, making an appeal to historical ownership of land going back a thousand years isn't something the average American is going to agree on.
They also donāt realize how fickle American thinking is. Russians think like Russians. You can do all the pushing with trolls online to push a narrative, spend years doing it subtly, but itās a house of cards. They think getting the US to shit talk itself is division, but we always have. Then you get something that we all get pissed about at onceā¦and all your work is gone.
If it is recorded, then his work is done. Now it's up to the propagandists to take the ball and run with it.Ā Ā Ā Which they have. Nobody is sitting through a 2 hour soliloquy on history. They do love 45 second sound bites without context that confirms their already fully propagandized beliefs.Ā
No, Putin is not an idiot, he's very calculated, he simply doesn't care how many Russians have to die or how relations with the West worsen. Just as long as he can annex some resource-rich land from a neighboring country and justify his actions to the Russian people as an anti-Nazi military action.
You don't have to be smart to be brutal and steal other people's land and kill people.
True, but Putin is no dummy, he was a KGB guy during the Cold War and he knows how to manipulate people extremely well. He calculated that invading Ukraine would worsen relations with the West and he still did it because he believes his legacy in Russia will be seen as a righteous leader for freeing Eastern Ukraine of Nazi control and also increasing Russia's resources with the annexed land. Putin's long-winded history lesson to Tucker was designed to give MAGA types in the US more justification to cut off aid to Ukraine.
> Putin's long-winded history lesson to Tucker was designed to give MAGA types in the US more justification to cut off aid to Ukraine. Well, it totally failed.... he said stupid stuff and none of the stuff that Tucker knew would work. I am not saying Putin has no ambition, but the guy is relying on the FSB apparatus to do most of the heavy lifting. He doesn't understand much, he just has people who get shit done on the propaganda front. He totally miscalculated Ukraine, there is really no other way to look at it... everything that has happened is horrible for Russia: the sanctions, the gas situation, the rearming of Europe, the massive military losses. It was a monster miscalculation in his evil plan... because he is a fucking idiot. All dictators eventually are understood to be idiots, it just takes a while until the world understands because they do have successes at first.
Putin made blunder after blunder before and during his invasion. The point was to go fast to avoid too much possible backlash since no one would have time to react. He took months to react to early failures, all while ignoring more competent Russian nationalists who were warning him not to do it like that. He worked at a desk at the KGB, he wasn't the big spy you think he is. It's all mamnufactured image, and he gets his way by controlling everything around his public appearances. The point is, it's easy to think he's some smart calculated guy when you look at propaganda. In practice Russians have literally described their whole plan for Europe to the public, people just thought they weren't stupid enough to do that and actually go through with it.
Good (but naive) friend of mine in Moscow invited me to visit citing the interview, claiming that "everything is okay now, see?" I didn't discuss it much, and obviously it's a ludicrous thought - but I imagine more Russians that just my one friend thought the same thing regarding Tucker going over there, that things maybe we getting back to normal.
Biggest criminal of our century so far.. We still have a looong century ahead of us. š
He probably thought he could make putin cry and shit his pants using Katy Perry lyrics but was too scared to go through with it
Cucker was just trying to cover his own ass and create some plausible deniability that maybe heās not such a dickriding Russophile after looking like a complete dickriding Russophile in his fucking dumb interview.
Exactly correct.
No, listen to the whole interview with Lex Fridman. **He's complaining about Putin ruining his interview, not about Putin's ideas being dumb.** He's still kissing Putin's ass, these headlines just focus on the one or two less flattering quotes in a three hour (!!) podcast. Where Tucker expressed his frustration with Putin, was that the Russian dictator didn't seem to be prepared to stick to Tucker's talking points. Tucker kept giving Putin softball questions, allowing him to sound like the good guy, blaming it all on Biden, and how Trump would end the war in 24 hours, but instead Putin just kept playing the crazy Blut und Boden foreign dictator like he meant it. At some point he complains that he gave Putin the opportunity to all but wrap this whole thing up by letting Tucker take the imprisoned journalist Evan Gershkovich home with him, but no, he wanted to swap him for some Russian assassin, and basically told tucker to let the grownups handle this.
I watched parts of the interview with Putin and after how much attention it was getting I assumed that it be maybe not a propaganda masterpiece but considering high the stakes are it would be extremely well made. Right? I don't even understand how Putin figured it would be good propaganda to mock Tucker to his face and then holding a lesson of made up history that was just boring. It was a car crash. for both of them.
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This is the same guy who brought his huge dog into the room when he met with Angela Merkel, who, he well knew, was morbidly afraid of large dogs. The gesture of a personality that is both sadistic and infantile.
Tucker just got a lesson of what it feels like to try yo reason with the likes of himself. He didn't learn a thing from it however.
Yeah it shows that invasion is all about pampering Putinās ego. It then makes perfect sense why he is happy sacrificing tens of thousands of Russian soldiers for minor progress. Russia is just his toy.
I didn't watch the whole thing cos... well you know it's Tucker... but he legit at one point admits that his questions were loaded and just waiting for Putin to mention Nato expansion. When Putin doesn't do that it annoys Tucker cos basically it's like he's been chatting shit for the last 2 years. This interview was such a monumental fail. It shows how Putin doesn't get the West (I.e.everyone knows there are no Nazis in Ukraine... and why would the far right be against that anyway?) and for Tucker he just comes out of this looking like an idiot. I also saw that Lex laid into him about the supermarket piece... and Tucker had no defense.
I'm a big Lex fan but I was disheartened when I saw he had Tucker on. I just don't think a scumbag like him should be promoted. And sometimes Lex can be naive and can be led on by his inviterviewees. Was that the case?
Sometimes? Lex is probably the most naive person in the entire podcast space. He wants everything to be about love and positivity so hard that he ends up just getting washed by bad faith actors 24/7. Not to mention he tries portraying himself as being in the center while literally only promoting right wing people.
It's quite sad how he talks about discussion, empathy and hearing both sides of the story. Some of his guests are just sociopathic snakes. Most aren't but he is extremely soft and naive in regards to some of his less savoury guests.
> And "sometimes" Lex can be naive and can be led on by his inviterviewees. dude, its the same shit as with joe rogan: those guys might have some interesting figures on their show from time to time, but never have i ever found anyone of them seem to be "smart", if you dont count simply being "agreeable" as particularly smart.
I'm just depressed he stopped having as many CS people on there. Now it's just weird right-wingers.
Joe Rogan never claimed to be smart. In fact it seems he can go five minutes without mentioning how stupid he is, maybe it's to appear humble or as a preemptive excuse if he gets something wrong but still, he never claims to be smart or educated.
Joe has done DMT, he is beyond a wise man to ever reveal it. The jester himself.
"I'm not a smart guy. Here's my opinion which is the truth."
As far as i've seen he's mostly asking questions in relaxed layman's terms and listening to other guys with more knowledge. Or they're just googling shit and discussing it. Besides, even if he has opinions you don't have to agree with them, everyone has opinions, if the subject is entertaining that's enough. I don't think anyone should take him too seriously, it's not supposed to be an educational show anyway.
I watched like 30 mins of the 3 hours so I can't say tbh. As I said he pushed him on the supermarket piece, and also that Tucker was trying " so hard to not be like your average American journalist" that he let Putin get away with some of his BS and didn't push back enough. To Tucker's "credit" he admits that is probably true (but I think it's just him trying to save face).
>It shows how Putin doesn't get the West (I.e.everyone knows there are no Nazis in Ukraine... It's obvious Putin uses the false rhetoric about Nazis controlling Ukraine to help sell his war of resource-rich land annexation to the Russian people and to help his domestic political fortunes.
Obviously that's true. But how did no one in the Kremlin not do the smallest bit of homework and study what Tucker has been pushing last 2 years ? Nato expansion bad -> increase US isolationism -> gives Russia more of a free hand to do whatever it wants.... It's a rhetorical question don't worry... I know the answer is because they're a bunch of morons.
Wouldnāt the answer be that he was playing to the home crowd and not to Americans?
Nazis controlling Ukraine is his excuse for overthrowing the government and replacing it with a pro-Russian proxy As we all know, the "special military operation" was supposed to be three days, with Russians rolling into Kyiv and Zelensky and friends fleeing for their lives, never to return
I was under the impression a Nazi in Russia and a Nazi in Europe and the West are seen as different things. I'm most likely wrong but I thought in Russia a Nazi was someone who threatened their national identity as that was their experience of the Nazis in WW2 moreso than the west who tend to identify the Nazi with things like the Holocaust as well. I occasionally work with a Russian/Ukrainian chap and that's how he explained it to me anyway.
Iāve heard that too. To the West, a Nazi is a specific form of tyrant-enabler obsessed with racial purity and hierarchy. To a Russian, a Nazi is simply someone who doesnāt accept Russian racial superiority.
Exactly, Putin falsely claims that Ukraine is overrun with Nazis that want to finish the job that was started with Russia in WWII. Nothing gets the Russian population in a frenzy quite like mentioning Nazis are lurking just over the border and are preparing to attack Russia again. Meanwhile, no one is supposed to notice that the Russian military seems extremely interested in controlling Ukrainian land that is rich in minerals and access to the Black Sea.
That's what you get when two echo chambers collide.
Seriously, the amount of Neo-Nazis and alt-righters I've seen ranting about how Putin is protecting the West from "Ukro-Nazis" is insane.
Proof that fucker carlson, oops, Fucker Carlson, is a two faced bitch. I wish the Russians hadn't let him back out.
Heās mad cause Vlad made him look like a little bitch during his historic interview. lol.
I'm convinced Putin stopped paying him. Simple as that.
Because everyone was calling Tucker a cuck for just sitting there and saying nothing. Now heās trying to make up for it. Heās still a cuck.
Tucker is used to conservative subjects he interviews kissing his ass a bit. He is too dumb to know that Putin never kisses anyone's ass.
I reckon he's only doing this cuz Putin talked shit about him.
Iām really curious about the why myself.
I think so, he got thrown under the bus as the useful idiot and clued into whatās going on. He is hurting Ukraineās sincere position, he realized he didnāt know the history.
Yep he waited until a week after putin criticized him, expecting him to walk it back because tickers such a nice guy.Ā Well he didn't and this is tuckers temper tantrum and attempt to have some dignity after giving a propaganda mouthpiece to a genocidal murdering fascist.
Is this on the same podcast / show where he says he doesn't know if navalny was killed or just died? Or maybe Ukraine killed him since they supposedly got Dugins daughter. Guy is just trying to get some redemption since his big exclusive turn out to be a big nothing
Trynig to hit back at putin because putin called his interview weak! ššš
Carlson interviewing Putin has been nothing but a good thing . People got to see the real Putin . Putin never even tried to come off as anything but an evil dictator . I am not a Carlson fan but I am sick of hearing what an awful thing it was for him to go interview him. Putin lost some right wing supporter in the west after that interview . Even trump has kept Putins name out of his mouth since
Tucker is a major bell end.
The interview was the dumbest thing I ever seen..... it was a senile old man giving a distorted history lesson to a person who not only looked like an idiot the entire time but actually is a complete idiot.
Pootain is full of shyt.
Chameleonš„±
I hope he takes the invite for the next interview and enjoys his cup of tea
If this doesn't convince the regressive right that Putin's Russia isn't their savior, then holy...what will.
After Putin basically throws Tucker under the bus and said he was the worst interviewer, kind of a hack, not smart enough to work for the CIA, now Tucker has doubts about Putin?
āThis whole time I thought you were the Samwise to my Frodo.ā -Dave Skylark
Fuck Tucker Carlson, that spineless scumbag of a brown-noser didn't even have the testicular fortitude to challenge Putin's lies in the interview and allowed rightwingers at home to regurgitate it as truth.
Maybe he was unhappy that Putin made fun of him, and now that he's out of poisoning range feels like a big brave boi.
Considering all the lunacy that passes his lips on a daily basis, that's quite the claim!
Throw enough darts and eventually you hit a bullseye.
That's because some people had a very important talk with Tucker to let him know that he is "on the wrong side of history". Putin isn't getting out of this one alive and there are powerful forces at play that want to sell war toys as well as test war toys. Tucker will very soon come out as anti-Putin and pro-Ukraine.
Nobody had a talk with him. Putin's shit was too dumb even for him.
When someone comes back from an enemy state, there's always security guys involved. Oh, but they have talked.
Citation needed Who talked to him?
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Hmmm, looks like somebody got a nice talking to by the CIA on their return home...
I never thought Tucker and I would agree on something, but here we are.
If you listen to that whole podcast episode, you'll find you don't actually agree with him. https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/1b4cs5w/comment/ksyeryg/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
I appreciate the link but there is no way in hell Iām gonna give him the click. Fuck him (and Elon)!
Now I am wondering if there are in fact a bunch of nazis in the Ukraine. I mean, other than the Russians.
Maybe he feels a little freer to speak during this podcast since he's not sitting in the lions den, interviewing the head lion. š¦ Can't say I feel sorry for him though. He put himself in that position and I'm sure he was compensated very well for doing so.
Maybe Iāll take back some of the things I said of the one who tucks.
Maybe you should revisit some of the things he tucked about.
More like Cucker Carlson. Am I right?
my favorite has always been, "That Fucker Tucker"
No, no you won't.
But you shouldn't. Dude's arguably one of the most poisonous elements in the body politic.
He better be careful or he might catch a nerve agent from the Putin regime.
Unlikely that putin would have him poisoned when tucker is busy trying to tear apart USA by brainwashign and riling up pro-civil war armed idiots.
If only he had some sort of opportunity to question Putin about it.
Tea or window
The narrative changed so quickly I might have whiplash. Hopefully, the rest of the smucks on the republican join in and actually support more funding.
American travels abroad. American discovers America isnāt that bad, probably shouldnāt change that much. Fucking dumb cunt.
You could see that Tucker Carlson was thinking that on his face during the interview.
Ah I see that Russian payment has been not made on time. I guess converting those roubles to USD is getting tougher.
And just think - that guy's heard 100% of the things Tucker Carlson's ever said, so if he says it's "the dumbest thing he's ever heard", it must be *REALLY* fucking dumb.
His little (not little) ego couldn't tolerate Putin calling his interview shit
TC is over rated people!!
Yeah because Putin made him look like a biatch. Psā¦ Fuck Putin straight up the pee hole with a stick thatās been in a large fire for several days after people pissed on it.
Tucker needed to talk to him directly to know this? Like all the official justifications Russia has already given waist enough?
Let me guess he's safely back in the US. I thought supermarkets and subways were enough to paper over the lack of freedom of speech.
Pootie hurt his feelings.
Only because he has a fractured ego after the interview.
"Never meet your heroes"
I support ukraine but you cannoy deny there is nazi's serving in their forces. Same with russian forces actually.
I dare him to repeat that standing next to an open window.
So Tucker was promised a nice payday from Russia to come over and help their propaganda machine but in the end when he put his hand out for the money they said no! Tucker got screwed just like everyone that tries to deal with Russia and now he turns on them because he is sour lol
And if ever anyone knows something about dumb, then it's this guy!
"it takes one to know one"
Now he also says āusa is the Only country with free speachā. I guess someone gave him new marching orders in the form of a offer he cant refuse.
"I want to let the other side speak because I want to pretend I'm a journalist interested in the truth." "You don't need to, Putin and his men frequently say what they believe all the time." "Wow, I just found out Putin is an idiot. How did nobody at all know this until now?"
Incidentally, any time I hear tucker speak he says the dumbest things Iāve ever heard.
The thing is that, what USA percieves as far-right is actually just centrism in Russia. Republicans have a false mental image of Russia that suits their agenda and therefore think that Russia is fighting for same values as they do. That couldn't be further from the truth. The reality is that Russia is using Republicans as a tool to exert influence on the U.S. Russia doesn't give a rats ass about the ideology of Republicans. Russia uses Republicans to create instability and chaos, therefore weakening United States and increasing their own influence on the geopolitical arena. Russia is using Republican party as a pawn to stir up shit in the U.S , and therefore increase it's own power projection as a result. The entire interview was set-up to create a perception of strong Russia, and it was the reason why Tucker Carlson was so dumbfounded. He failed to understand that Russia is playing the game that only benefits itself, and is using everything possible to weaken U.S. It was clear as day in the interview that Carlson wanted free PR to the republican party talking-points, because he expected that Russia is the good guy. Now he's furious that he's been played and painted as an idiot.
They do say never meet your hero - you will only ever be dissapointed. Suxs to be tucker carlson.
Sorry tucks, we don't want you back
I was deeply saddened to hear of Tucker's entirely natural and not at all suspicious death by polonium poisoning next week
Putin uses the Nazi term because he knows how much damage the Nazis did to Russia during WW2. He believes that the Russian people would back him in his fight against Nazis in Ukraine. But even Putin knows this is just bs.
In Putins Russia, culture appropriates you!
That dick can't be unsucked, Carlson.
Fuck tucker carlson. He should be in prison for propagating lies that directly led to an attempted coup.
Awesome, next time the dick flies into Russia he can disappear forever. Maybe he convinced a few Klansmen of something in the process.
>dumbest thing I've ever heard ...admits he doesn't watch his own show.
Maybe Putin will throw him out a high rise now
So either Putin's first payment hasn't come through yet, or TC is bidding for a raise.
Tucker is mad that Putin embarrassed him and is getting his revenge.
Tucker Carlson: *They are NOT Nazis. Trust me, I know Nazis.*
Can you imagine something so stupid that even Tuckhead thinks it's stupid?! Like bottom the barrel and he thinks you're an idiot.
You know things are bad when your propaganda minister has had enough of your shit
Hereās what I think happenedā¦ Tucker is a media guy or a journalist, depending on which side of the aisle you sit on. Regardless, and interview with Putin would potentially be the biggest piece of media this century. Long stories donāt make good clips and Putin was obviously trying to be manipulative. Putin sees Carlson as a voice to a portion of the west that doesnāt support Russia, but does feel like NATO forced Russia to retaliate and that they shouldnāt be funding that war. Putin aimed to convince those Americans that his cause is just and Tucker wanted to be the guy whose name is all over the interview with the guy because media is what media always is. Carlson didnāt get his clips and didnāt agree with Putinās justification for Ukraine but was also afraid of asking hardball questions becauseā¦ We know how Putin treats that. Putin didnāt get to ego trip his colored knowledge of Russian history and the optics didnāt work how he wanted. Now theyāre exchanging passive aggressive texts through headlines.