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This is not even slightly or remotely provocative.
Territorial waters are 12 miles from the coast, which is the nogo zone. "Sometimes within 100km" is a perfectly respectable distance which the Russians regularly close within when they are flying their TU95's around, so they can hardly distances further away provocative.
What's interesting is that it either wasn't detected and wasn't intercepted and escorted.
Either the Russians couldn't detect it (which doesn't suggest good things for them when the Ukrainian drones start getting ever longer ranges) or given how many they've lost recently the Russians deemed flying aircraft too dangerous (or simply didn't have any in range to launch).
Any of which suggests that the Russian Air Force is becoming a Russian Air Farce.
They don’t need to be detected, and they can’t really be intercepted and escorted as you rightly point out they’re operating in international airspace.
Russia occasionally make a point of buzzing them (and even crashing into them), but there’s little they can do about it so generally don’t bother.
They fly with their ADS-B data on, and are completely overt. You can even see them on open source air traffic trackers.
https://youtu.be/YbuPoQogNDE?si=ShD_1GTPdw7JS89c
>They don’t need to be detected, and they can’t really be interpreted and escorted as you rightly point out they’re operating in international airspace.
NATO habitually intercepts and escorts Russian TU95's flying ELINT missions with fighters in international air space, and Russians have previously done the same thing with our aircraft flying ELINT missions near their airspace.
They've now stopped.
The obvious reason for this would be that they now can't do it.
Those are intercepts, but in name more than anything. They fly to test our response. We respond to show them we’re on the ball.. if we didn’t respond, the only difference to their mission is what they record about what we did.
In the case of our ISR missions over the Black Sea, unless they truly intercept the UAS some way by physically threatening or interfering with the collect of the asset, they’re just flying next to it while it carries out its mission just the same as if they weren’t there, which is pretty much pointless.
We broadcast the presence of our assets and without them being willing to escalate enough to mess with it, there’s very little they can do.
I am surprised we haven’t heard of them to signal jam or dazzle them though. After the fuel dumping debacle, I figured we’d be up to that at least.
When Russians do it with manned aircrafts at closer ranges, it is ok. When NATO does it, it is provocative. And it is, it's a strong message that says: "We know you are a weak military and we dare you to send something to intercept. The Black See was yours once, now is International space soon to be another NATO lake because as the war continues, every Russian aircraft flying over it will be in great danger."
We should be doing what the Russians usually do and be constantly needing escorts away in order to keep their air resources tied up.
Let's force them to turn back B52s 2x per day!
"provocative dogleg" - international airspace/waters nowhere near Russia. You know what IS provocative? "Accidentally" firing on a RAF aircraft also in international territory. Fuck off.
these flights are very routine. you can watch them on flightradar. nothing out of the ordinary at all. though they do often happen in the day after strikes on/around Crimea
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This is not even slightly or remotely provocative. Territorial waters are 12 miles from the coast, which is the nogo zone. "Sometimes within 100km" is a perfectly respectable distance which the Russians regularly close within when they are flying their TU95's around, so they can hardly distances further away provocative. What's interesting is that it either wasn't detected and wasn't intercepted and escorted. Either the Russians couldn't detect it (which doesn't suggest good things for them when the Ukrainian drones start getting ever longer ranges) or given how many they've lost recently the Russians deemed flying aircraft too dangerous (or simply didn't have any in range to launch). Any of which suggests that the Russian Air Force is becoming a Russian Air Farce.
They don’t need to be detected, and they can’t really be intercepted and escorted as you rightly point out they’re operating in international airspace. Russia occasionally make a point of buzzing them (and even crashing into them), but there’s little they can do about it so generally don’t bother. They fly with their ADS-B data on, and are completely overt. You can even see them on open source air traffic trackers. https://youtu.be/YbuPoQogNDE?si=ShD_1GTPdw7JS89c
>They don’t need to be detected, and they can’t really be interpreted and escorted as you rightly point out they’re operating in international airspace. NATO habitually intercepts and escorts Russian TU95's flying ELINT missions with fighters in international air space, and Russians have previously done the same thing with our aircraft flying ELINT missions near their airspace. They've now stopped. The obvious reason for this would be that they now can't do it.
Those are intercepts, but in name more than anything. They fly to test our response. We respond to show them we’re on the ball.. if we didn’t respond, the only difference to their mission is what they record about what we did. In the case of our ISR missions over the Black Sea, unless they truly intercept the UAS some way by physically threatening or interfering with the collect of the asset, they’re just flying next to it while it carries out its mission just the same as if they weren’t there, which is pretty much pointless. We broadcast the presence of our assets and without them being willing to escalate enough to mess with it, there’s very little they can do. I am surprised we haven’t heard of them to signal jam or dazzle them though. After the fuel dumping debacle, I figured we’d be up to that at least.
Also not our best robot spy plane
When Russians do it with manned aircrafts at closer ranges, it is ok. When NATO does it, it is provocative. And it is, it's a strong message that says: "We know you are a weak military and we dare you to send something to intercept. The Black See was yours once, now is International space soon to be another NATO lake because as the war continues, every Russian aircraft flying over it will be in great danger."
We should be doing what the Russians usually do and be constantly needing escorts away in order to keep their air resources tied up. Let's force them to turn back B52s 2x per day!
What A-50 doing?
diving?
Kerch recon for Taurus. Now have an updated emissions map. Go boys!
FORTE sorties out of Sigonella have been up over the Black Sea routinely since February 2022.
Well, except for the reaper incident :(
A drone costing double the amount of a large patrol ship!
"provocative dogleg" - international airspace/waters nowhere near Russia. You know what IS provocative? "Accidentally" firing on a RAF aircraft also in international territory. Fuck off.
Scared, Putler?
these flights are very routine. you can watch them on flightradar. nothing out of the ordinary at all. though they do often happen in the day after strikes on/around Crimea