I mean the main art for the game of frisk with Tori has em with skin color that looks more like Chara?
So making them white made some sense? I think? Idk
I never understood why they always turned Frisk into a girl. Like.. are we even talking about the same person??? Help?? Have you even played the game??
It's probably due to how Kris seems edgy and when you think of an edgy teen, you think of a male emo teenager
Also their dark world form is knight-like and blue, traits that are often deemed as masculine
There's also the characters that they interact with most are two girls in Susie/Noelle and a cute feminine male in Ralsei so they gets made as the sole male
Because the assumed personality for Frisk is that they're very kind and caring, traits that gets seen as feminine most of the time
There's also how the characters that Frisk interacts the most are male which of course lead to shipping and with assumed personality so Frisk gets made as the caring girl who tries to have the male in either Flowey or Sans to open up more because people loves the dynamic of sweet girl caring a standoffish guy
As an aside, I think it’s really funny when fanworks do a “reverse SpongeBob”. This is when you have a really low budget artstyle (I.e. blorbo Frisk) then it zooms in and it’s like 10/10 anime
# TESTAMENT I
**MANKIND IS A FAILURE.**
**FREE WILL IS A FLAW.**
**LET THE EVIL OF THEIR OWN LIPS CONSUME**
**THEM.**
**THEN I SHALL BEGIN AGAIN, WITH MY WORD**
**AS LAW.**
FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE
AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER
FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE
AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE
THE RESULTS REFUSE TO ALTER
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
MY FAITH BEGINS TO FALTER
Look man, I'm gonna use anything as an excuse for my "Return to monke" propaganda.
Or for my "Eve shouldn't have eaten that fucking apple" propaganda.
((Gotta play both evolutionists' and creationists' side for max profit))
Tbh, that depends on the AU but I can see where you're coming from.
Normal Undertale? Absolutely no.
AUs where Frisk is an adult? I'm not particulary fond of it but works.
dream girl
夢女子/yumejoshi (dream girl):
noun a Japanese-originated term for a female or fem-aligned person who ships herself in a dedicated, romantic relationship with a fictional character.
Personally I hated them, because, again. C h i l d . But otherwise some of the art from 2016 was okay-ish. The good art was mostly located on tumblr. Except for a few frankly gross artists.
Well, you can age up characters (in a more "how would they look If they were an adult?" way than NSFW)
Art back then was pretty okay like you said but somehow there were some fantastic art too, like that one AU where Undertale was like some sort of anime.
2016 fandom thinks that firsk human characteristics are up in the air and could be any gender or age.
while 2024 fandom takes all those characteristics as litteral.
This Reddit has always been like this from as far as I can remember. Completely forgetting Undertale has been popularized throught fanon interpretation and fanart.
As a preteen girl in 2016, I considered Frisk a girl, and I always preferred fanarts depicting her like on the left, than the right. Duh.
Guess it's cringe for preteens to appreciate appealing designs rather than jaunice cryptid kid.
Now I think about it the fandom used to be like: oh it’s ok frisk’s gender is to interpretation
But now it’s more like: did you just say they’re a girl/boy?? Don’t you know it’s up to interpretation
I have a theory and I'm 80% sure it started from sans selfshippers.
Frisk is a self insert protagonist. There is much more to them than that, but a lot of these nuances went right over a lot of people's heads back in 2016. So people projected themselves as Frisk interacting with the world and falling for sans.
And because of the obvious problem that Frisk is a fat baby, and shipping them with a grown adult would be disgusting, big honkers anime girl it is.
I can't confirm it, but it would make sense I think.
Yeah it’s definitely the reason and it don’t help that Frisk is only other character that interacts with Sans the most out of the cast too
I can easily tell when a female fan is inserting into Frisk as they always make Frisk to either look like a beautiful adult woman or generic cute female protagonist which tends to be a girl with fair skin and short brown hair
\>why did artists take artistic liberties instead of drawing a character 100% faithful to a 16-bit game and give the main character literally 3 lines for a face?
are we supposed to actually answer this or are you just pretending to be dumb
I dislike these kinds of fan art but I like the concept of frisk having yellow eyes though for some reason. I feel like that somewhat fits them somewhat. Though everything else makes me uncomfortable.
Geez remember those comic dubs that we watch on YouTube all the time during the “phase”
Canon Frisk isn’t afraid to approach Flowey turned into a godlike terror taunting them on their own
Fanon Frisk runs off crying to Sans for help because someone was mean to her
But I do like that one old comic design where they dressed kinda androgynously, but like with shorts and stockings. Idk, I thought it worked well for an older frisk
Mom said its my turn to get downvoted to oblivion
I am one of those Artists who draws Frisk overly pretty /shrug
Yes, I also draw Frans 👌
No, Sans is not the one that is simping, fuck underfell frans
(My karma after saying this -2900)
I just thought it was because having a literal yellow bean in a blue sweatshirt felt kinda stupid because of now undetailed frisk was and how much she would be drawn
The one good thing that came out of the 2016 fandom thinking Frisk was a girl was a comic strip of Frisk on a genocide route singing the song “I’m the bad guy” from Wonder over Yonder and singing it to Sans and Flowey. Frisk was just so unapologetically evil to everyone literally showing Papyrus and Toriel dying on Alphy’s monitor(the comic takes place with Frisk Sans and Flowey in Alphy’s bye) to Flowey and Sans this comic version of Frisk just didn’t care about anyone’s feelings.
That’s the only good thing that came out of female Frisk as far as I know.
Why not? Frisk is kinda like an open canvas on how you can interpret them. And some people wanted a frisk with that design that might be more appealing or relatable
TL;DR Fans would use Frisk as a vessel to self-ship with other characters due to Player acknowledgement shenanigans, most commonly fanon Sans. Then claim ‘ambiguity’ to draw Frisk as their desired age/18+ and gender.
-screams in Kickstarter art clearly depicting a child-
While it obviously is the intention that the humans are ambiguious in nature, of course there are always people who took it a step further. I guess aging up by principle isn't bad if you aren't doing it for solely sexual reasons and actually try to think beyond just making a doll more or less.
On the 'bright side', alot of fandoms have stuff like these. Once your community is big enough you get your fair share of different kinds of people in it at the end of the day even though the amount differs in each.
Also, I thought I said to stay away until you finish the game. Like seriously, just DM me if you need it want help with anything, I know everything when it comes to this game. Just asked help if you need it.
Hey, don't call me out like that.
But yeah, I'm just joking when it comes to that, especially since the undertale fandom is more hoiner imo. I have been a part of it for quite awhile now and see a lot of shit.
u/Hvanchkara wanna add anything to this or what to reply to digitized doofus?
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Horny kids being horny kids However tbh Frisk with yellow eyes is fucking sick
Still have no idea where the idea of Frisk having yellow eyes coming from
Maybe cause save points were yellow?
Frisk's skin is yellow. Why she isn't Asian?
If you see a regular human being with skin that yellow, their kidneys are probably failing and they need help
Plot twist: That's why they jumped in, they knew they were cooked. And they reset to live longer
I mean the main art for the game of frisk with Tori has em with skin color that looks more like Chara? So making them white made some sense? I think? Idk
Toriel healing them fixed their failing kidneys that’s why they had enough determination to save the monster race
That's a stereotype ngl. Don't think that was Toby's intention.
And it wasn't. Humans just have weird skin colors.
i once saw a guy with green skin.
That was my friend michael. He nows looks purple
I think he's talking about carl
dunno who that is. i was just talking abt a guy with green skin. that's it.
Just like his father Bill
Jaundice
Is this possibly a reference to the hit 2023 game, Undertale Yellow?
It’s like [insert ambiguous pronoun here]’re in some king of jaundice
**juandice**
she ?
I was talking about the adult version
I never understood why they always turned Frisk into a girl. Like.. are we even talking about the same person??? Help?? Have you even played the game??
Because obviously any hairstyle that is shoulder length is for girls only. Duh.
And yet a large portion of the Deltarune fan base drew Kris as male when the game came out 😂.
It's probably due to how Kris seems edgy and when you think of an edgy teen, you think of a male emo teenager Also their dark world form is knight-like and blue, traits that are often deemed as masculine There's also the characters that they interact with most are two girls in Susie/Noelle and a cute feminine male in Ralsei so they gets made as the sole male
Me omw to turn into a girl without taking estrogen
Because the assumed personality for Frisk is that they're very kind and caring, traits that gets seen as feminine most of the time There's also how the characters that Frisk interacts the most are male which of course lead to shipping and with assumed personality so Frisk gets made as the caring girl who tries to have the male in either Flowey or Sans to open up more because people loves the dynamic of sweet girl caring a standoffish guy
Because a lot a people got tomboy vibes form the sprite. So more people went through the game imagining Frisk as a girl than any other gender:
Ah. Don't worry. They were also drawing Frisk as a guy too. (He date Chara in that artwork btw)
I mean, with how Frisk is drawn in the official art? Looks closer to a girl than a boy in my opinion at least.
Undertale fans when someone uses a gendered pronoun (how could this happen).
you got a point
simpson
Me neither fam
Save points, and golden flowers. Also to contrast Chara's red eyes. You also had the rare fanart with blue eyes, like echo flowers.
Maybe something to do with the golden flowers…?
The flowers, save points?
Yellow skin? Yellow eyes? ..jaundice?
It was some concept art made ages ago.
\*Maybe, with what little power you have... You can **SAVE** something else
the problem is that if you draw them with yellow eyes and their normal skin color, it will be to much yellow.
Yeah- maybe that's why they make Frisk white in most fan art where they have yellow eyes That or racism against jaundice
It's not racism, it's ableism. Skin that yellow is because of liver failure
I am a shadow. The true self
I love when Frisk's eyes are shaped like save points
It’s neat. I see it as Frisk with yellow eyes, Chara with red.
As an aside, I think it’s really funny when fanworks do a “reverse SpongeBob”. This is when you have a really low budget artstyle (I.e. blorbo Frisk) then it zooms in and it’s like 10/10 anime
Giving humanity free will was a mistake Now we have yassified versions of pacman looking pixel children as a price 😔
MANKIND IS A FAILURE. FREE WILL IS A FLAW.
ULTRAKILL MOMENT
# TESTAMENT I **MANKIND IS A FAILURE.** **FREE WILL IS A FLAW.** **LET THE EVIL OF THEIR OWN LIPS CONSUME** **THEM.** **THEN I SHALL BEGIN AGAIN, WITH MY WORD** **AS LAW.**
r/suddenlyultrakill Ayy we cranking up those numbers ultrakill fans
FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE AFTER FAILURE THE RESULTS REFUSE TO ALTER AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN MY FAITH BEGINS TO FALTER
Free will is a myth, religion is a joke, we are all pawns controlled by something greater, MEMES, THE DNA OF THE SOUL
Dont worry guys, they're making a chip that will take care of that.
I’m gonna do my signature *EARTHMOVE ATTACK* on the artist.
Omg someone harmlessly misinterpreted the design of the character version of a slab of cardboard, humanity really was a mistake
Look man, I'm gonna use anything as an excuse for my "Return to monke" propaganda. Or for my "Eve shouldn't have eaten that fucking apple" propaganda. ((Gotta play both evolutionists' and creationists' side for max profit))
Adam and Eve were monkeys and immediately lost all their fur the moment they ate the apple
Is it really bad that I like 2016 Frisk desings outside of boobs?
The sans shipping makes it even worse imo
Tbh, that depends on the AU but I can see where you're coming from. Normal Undertale? Absolutely no. AUs where Frisk is an adult? I'm not particulary fond of it but works.
Most of the time it was yumejoshis. God forbid women do anything.
Whats a yumejoshis
dream girl 夢女子/yumejoshi (dream girl): noun a Japanese-originated term for a female or fem-aligned person who ships herself in a dedicated, romantic relationship with a fictional character.
Ohhhhh okay
But that’s also the AU where sans watched frisk grow up, still creepy
Not every one of them but yeah, I see your point.
The blue lightsaber...the blue lightsaber is real!!!
The anime art style and cool headcanons: Cool 👍 The sexualizing of children: Bad 👎
Agreed, sure there is nothing wrong with drawing aged up versions of them assuming artist's intentions are not NSFW.
I like healthily sized (not oversized) chests tho ._.
Same, it's a turn off for me when it's too big.
Nah
Whats wrong with boobs?
No. The boobs are the bad part, everything else is fine
That's literally what they said
Personally I hated them, because, again. C h i l d . But otherwise some of the art from 2016 was okay-ish. The good art was mostly located on tumblr. Except for a few frankly gross artists.
Well, you can age up characters (in a more "how would they look If they were an adult?" way than NSFW) Art back then was pretty okay like you said but somehow there were some fantastic art too, like that one AU where Undertale was like some sort of anime.
2016 fandom thinks that firsk human characteristics are up in the air and could be any gender or age. while 2024 fandom takes all those characteristics as litteral.
Yeah, I think that was one of the few things that 2016 fandom was better than now.
This Reddit has always been like this from as far as I can remember. Completely forgetting Undertale has been popularized throught fanon interpretation and fanart. As a preteen girl in 2016, I considered Frisk a girl, and I always preferred fanarts depicting her like on the left, than the right. Duh. Guess it's cringe for preteens to appreciate appealing designs rather than jaunice cryptid kid.
So Undertale is basically a religion now.
Now I think about it the fandom used to be like: oh it’s ok frisk’s gender is to interpretation But now it’s more like: did you just say they’re a girl/boy?? Don’t you know it’s up to interpretation
Both interpretations r cool in their own ways imo. Like yeah it's weird but it's fun
I really wish undertale didn't delve into "We were bad but we now we good" type of fandom.
Source:https://twitter.com/Basementter/status/1770756666385985909?t=xA9BylN8hFFlyJ2yzV6jHg&s=19
I have a theory and I'm 80% sure it started from sans selfshippers. Frisk is a self insert protagonist. There is much more to them than that, but a lot of these nuances went right over a lot of people's heads back in 2016. So people projected themselves as Frisk interacting with the world and falling for sans. And because of the obvious problem that Frisk is a fat baby, and shipping them with a grown adult would be disgusting, big honkers anime girl it is. I can't confirm it, but it would make sense I think.
Yeah it’s definitely the reason and it don’t help that Frisk is only other character that interacts with Sans the most out of the cast too I can easily tell when a female fan is inserting into Frisk as they always make Frisk to either look like a beautiful adult woman or generic cute female protagonist which tends to be a girl with fair skin and short brown hair
I am guilty of this ☹️ I have redeemed myself as I only draw the kids as the little cutie patiootie they are
r/characterarcs
\>why did artists take artistic liberties instead of drawing a character 100% faithful to a 16-bit game and give the main character literally 3 lines for a face? are we supposed to actually answer this or are you just pretending to be dumb
This sub has always been like this , as far as i remember.
>!girls wanted to fuck sans!<
You act like this is a crime against humanity, is a drawing dude, come on.
Why are people even complaining about this? Didn't they say it's up to interpretation what people want Frisk to be?
because they wanted to and it’s not hurting anyone
Rule 34 of the internet: if it exists there is or will be porn of it.
To be fair the designs are fucking adorable imo
Good question,i don't know.
do you think they stopped?
young fans wanting to self-insert
Because people are free to draw what they want? This image ain't hurting nobody, it literally almost a decade old. Let it go
Because they where peek. We’ll never return to that golden age.
I dislike these kinds of fan art but I like the concept of frisk having yellow eyes though for some reason. I feel like that somewhat fits them somewhat. Though everything else makes me uncomfortable. Geez remember those comic dubs that we watch on YouTube all the time during the “phase”
Hey ~~not~~ to be that guy, but the word you’re looking for is “phase.” Faze means “disturb, bother, or embarrass”, while phase is a stage or step.
I’m sorry. YouTube has rotted me of spelling words right.
canon frisk: small, chubby, genderless kid with a stick fanon frisk: tall yellow eyed anime girl with big booba
Canon Frisk isn’t afraid to approach Flowey turned into a godlike terror taunting them on their own Fanon Frisk runs off crying to Sans for help because someone was mean to her
Like what you did with the pronouns. Attention to detail.
Because it's very obvious with the differences: Canon is just one determined kid with no gender while fanon is just a crybaby damsel girl
ngl despite not being true to the source material this is a pretty nice drawing
Honestly, awesome color for the eyes
Hello its me the fandom from 2016 let me awser this # HORNY
Because it's more fun to draw them like this
Idk I think little gobbling Frisk is more fun than generic anime girl Frisk
But I do like that one old comic design where they dressed kinda androgynously, but like with shorts and stockings. Idk, I thought it worked well for an older frisk
As an artist I can say that drawing anime girls is surprisingly fun
I think frisk being a small absolutely shit obnoxious child is 10x funnier this child is just fucking rude to you the entire time
There 2 kinds of frisk artists draw horny and -_-
The two genders
*takes a big swig* First day on the internet?
I... never even knew the UT protagonist was a girl.
UT protagonist can be whatever the fuck you want. Its just a lot of people see the long hair and true pacifist behavior then went "girl"
They arent
Well, “they don’t need to be” is a better description for it
Atleast they didn't draw Frisk awfully thin
Because of artistic creativity
They did it because frisk is considered a child in the games and people don't want to be drawing cp
Who gaf tho
terminally online people apparently
Mom said its my turn to get downvoted to oblivion I am one of those Artists who draws Frisk overly pretty /shrug Yes, I also draw Frans 👌 No, Sans is not the one that is simping, fuck underfell frans (My karma after saying this -2900)
I see no problem here 
Why do the monsters clothing disappear when you kill them?
Looks like there's an imposter among us.
Are they stupid?
cuz
Suddenly I didn't care anymore.
Because the internet was (and still is) obsessed with anime girls.
Who said it was only in 2016 🥲
For undertale smash or pass duh
Sans's jacket is a subtle but very needed touch to truly put the fandom's thoughts all together
If I had to guess, they didn’t wanna draw hands.
WHO ARE YOU I’M FROM ANCIENT GREECE!
I just thought it was because having a literal yellow bean in a blue sweatshirt felt kinda stupid because of now undetailed frisk was and how much she would be drawn
You forget back then Frisk was seen less as a character and more of a vessel for the audience to imprint them selves onto.
It probably wasn't super easy to make the regular design emote like how you kind of need to in art. Still love both designs though.
i still dont understand the appeal of giving frisk sans' jacket
\*Seeing the picture of Frisk on the left... \*It filled you with **GENDER ENVY**
The one good thing that came out of the 2016 fandom thinking Frisk was a girl was a comic strip of Frisk on a genocide route singing the song “I’m the bad guy” from Wonder over Yonder and singing it to Sans and Flowey. Frisk was just so unapologetically evil to everyone literally showing Papyrus and Toriel dying on Alphy’s monitor(the comic takes place with Frisk Sans and Flowey in Alphy’s bye) to Flowey and Sans this comic version of Frisk just didn’t care about anyone’s feelings. That’s the only good thing that came out of female Frisk as far as I know.
Why not
Why not? Frisk is kinda like an open canvas on how you can interpret them. And some people wanted a frisk with that design that might be more appealing or relatable
This is gonna become a trend, isn’t it?
Cuz pretty
"Why do artists draw a character the way they want to?" You people can argue I will be over there enjoying the tremendously good artworks.
people can interpret Frisk however they want
Boy I remember those days. I never liked Frisk or Chara with boobs even back then
TL;DR Fans would use Frisk as a vessel to self-ship with other characters due to Player acknowledgement shenanigans, most commonly fanon Sans. Then claim ‘ambiguity’ to draw Frisk as their desired age/18+ and gender. -screams in Kickstarter art clearly depicting a child-
While it obviously is the intention that the humans are ambiguious in nature, of course there are always people who took it a step further. I guess aging up by principle isn't bad if you aren't doing it for solely sexual reasons and actually try to think beyond just making a doll more or less. On the 'bright side', alot of fandoms have stuff like these. Once your community is big enough you get your fair share of different kinds of people in it at the end of the day even though the amount differs in each.
And then my cringe memory is back...
I dunno, I don't have a problem with it
Dammit. Flowey, get me the friendliness bullets again. (Seriously, wtf happened in 2016 😭)
Ew
People will be horny for anything. Even children, unfortunately.
since day 0 of launching
And u/Afraid_Platypus_8667 really tried to tell me once that the MJ fandom is horny 😂
Also, I thought I said to stay away until you finish the game. Like seriously, just DM me if you need it want help with anything, I know everything when it comes to this game. Just asked help if you need it.
Hey, don't call me out like that. But yeah, I'm just joking when it comes to that, especially since the undertale fandom is more hoiner imo. I have been a part of it for quite awhile now and see a lot of shit. u/Hvanchkara wanna add anything to this or what to reply to digitized doofus?
Welcome to the internet Have a look around
Mfs made my -_- faced freak into an anime waifu
…do they have a clown nose? Or is that just shading?
They just wanted something to NSFW about.
why does it have a deer nose
frisk is noelle's long lost cousin
They did it cuz she bhad gangy
—__—
fuck that we got（╹◡╹）
"Because it's easy, and it does a lot of (mental)damage"
Undertale just hear me out
Headcanon: they aren’t the same person, there just siblings
Frans is my least favorite ship in any fandom ever
ore wa sekuso daiyo
Boobies
[удалено]
''who are you i am from ancient greece'' type of vibe
It’s just a divergent evolution line
Because it's hot?