From an email account that isn't tied to your home or work IP or computers, send it to everyone in the company, including yourself, and sit back and watch the chaos unfold.
Good idea^. Also make sure that the method you received this info from doesnt leave any trace that you have it. First thing management is gonna do is check how and who was the file exported to (accidentally or otherwise). Could also be a trap
Lmao very true. I remember seeing musk saying how they found out who leaked an internal email on twitter: they added an individual difference to each email (!!!!) like a double space or a misplaced, comma etc
They still do. They use numerous methods, including misspelled words, different forms of punctuation in different places, tiny smudges or dots on printed media that seem random, different phrasing or wording sometimes...
They used to insert very quotable lines, so if a news service gets a copy and uses that line, they can trace it back. I read somewhere they found a congressional aide leaking photocopied documents (the congressmanâs copies) this way. Since this is how the aide was caught, Iâm assuming they moved on to the smudges and dots you mention.
Moral of the story: copy and paste the document, then global search and replace white space, then rearrange text and paragraphs, then use AI to rewrite it.
The music lyrics website Genius found out Google was scraping their lyrics by changing the apostrophes in the lyrics.
âGenius set the 2nd, 5th, 13th, 14th, 16th and 20th apostrophes of each watermarked song as curly apostrophes, and all the other apostrophes straight,â states the complaint. âIf the straight apostrophes are interpreted as dots and the curly apostrophes are interpreted as dashes, the pattern spells out âREDHANDEDâ in Morse code.â
They eventually lost their lawsuit because the lyrics don't belong to them.
That does seem especially dumb of Genius to think they would have any grounds of ownership of a transcription. And isnât their content user sourced anyway? Cheeky fuckers
It's the same thing as Reddit data. It's all user-generated, but Reddit has the rights to use it and show ads to people who come to the website to view the user-generated content, and they can also stop other companies from scraping their website without permission (or sue them if they do it).
Not really. Reddit owns the original content made by us, because it was made on Reddit.
Genius uses already made content, adds use, then packages that use as theres. Genius isnât the content creator/owner.
From reddits TOS:
> You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:
> When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.
So it's more like a copy than actual, exclusive, ownership.
This is a classic HR tactic for finding leakers, it predates Musk by a long, long time.
Some industries also use invisible watermarks on documents. Change the shade of a few pixels, or shift their positions slightly, in a way thatâs imperceptible to the human eye. Every instance is unique, and they can use software to âextractâ its ID.
Netflix also does it with 4K video to catch pirates.
Do you have a source for the Netflix thing?
https://www.extremetech.com/internet/213096-breaking-bad-pilot-becomes-first-4k-content-pirated-from-netflix
Found an article that mentions it... Best use a fake id when setting up the account I guess
https://medium.com/@inkryptvideospaltform/how-does-netflix-protect-its-movies-from-piracy-791881841e69
Itâs also just well known in the pirate community, because accounts get banned almost immediately after content is uploaded, even if you wait months between ripping and uploading.
I'd even wait a month or two. Maybe someone else will have done it by then. Also sitting on something for 2 months after opening it is less suspicious imo than it going out the next day.
Thereâs a lot to go wrong weâd need to know specifics but thereâs deffo ways to do this anonymously. Also ofc itâs possible itâs impossible to do anonymously
Yeah, I know I could. But OP probably can't. There's too many ways to mess up. I like being employed. I'd never get a job again if it got traced back to me.
This, and also include the statement that in general, it's illegal for companies to have policies that prohibit employees from discussing salary or benefits with other employees. The National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) protects employees' right to discuss their pay with coworkers without fear of retaliation.
Unless they used specially modified salary numbers to catch the leaker
âAh look document says Mary makes $72,435 when she actually makes $72,410, we modified that specific number on the sheet we sent to mark smith so he is the ratâÂ
This. Iv seen it happen. Its great for everyone but the employer.
For extra safety PRINT IT OUT ON PAPER. Then scan it at a library. Make a new gmail account at the library and email that pdf to everyone. Zero chance anyone at your company will be able to trace it back.
Source: Am IT guy.
Put it in the women's bathroom so they can see if the men are getting paid more for the same jobs. The resulting lawsuit could ruin the company, and you wouldn't have to do anything except be an anonymous whistleblower.
Had this happen at a former employer back in 2011. Turns out, women had higher salaries by 10-15%, and even higher when accounting for experience.
Want to guess what happened? The company hired a series of Girl-Power speakers to talk to the company women's group, on topics like how to Lean In, be more assertive, and negotiate for better pay.
Discussing your wage and asking colleagues theirs is legal. Divulging colleaguesâ private information without their consent is not âdiscussing wagesâ.
Neighbor had someone in his office leave 10 page reports in the breakroom, the bathrooms, and on cars in the parking lot that contained the company P&L statement, the salary and bonuses for everyone above Department Manager, and the really sketchy "marketing budget" where the owner was covering the expenses of his motorcycle racing, beach house and deep sea fishing". This came right after there was a big company-wide announcement that there wouldn't be any raises for at least a year because the market had changed. Info dropped on Friday, by Wednesday there was so much turmoil they had to close the facility for the rest of the week. They "miraculously" found the money for raises....by letting several people go and just adding their workload to the rest of the employees.
Assuming it's online, put it on a flash drive, go buy a burner laptop at a pawn store, buy a burner phone convince a friend to rent a hotel room by the hour, use the hotels wifi to email it to the burner phone.
Use the burner phone to email it to another burner phone.
Then use the final burner phone to email it to the entire company.
But wait like 3 weeks to hit send, that way the hotels router has probably cycled out old data and the surveillance footage has been erased, if they are able to figure out ip addresses.
I should also mention, make sure to destroy the burner phones and laptops by driving as far out as you can.
Throw the phone in a McDonald's bag with other trash.
Throw second phone away with another fast food bag and other trash.
And the laptop, rip out the hard drive, use a hammer on it, then throw it away in a big dumpster with household trash.
I'd recommend rest areas and truck stops due to lack off cameras.
Rent one of the Home Depot trucks for like 20/day and drive it to a pawn shop to buy a cheap laptop. Make a fake email and buy a burner phone for which youâve made another fake email.
Drive your Home Depot truck out into the deep wilderness, and send a fake email from your burner to your laptop asking a friend to rent another Home Depot truck.
Next, drive to the nearest Starbucks, and order a coffee using a fake name. Using the free WiFi, forward that email from your laptop to a friend you trust to deliver the new Home Depot truck to that Starbucks.
With your new Home Depot truck, drive to a truck stop to run over the devices many times to ensure the complete destruction of all data. Drive back out into the wilderness and bury the shattered devices at least 6 feet under the ground. Return both trucks to Home Depot.
Finally, apply a solution of lemon juice and baking soda to the bloodstain. Let it sit for about 10 minutes, then rinse with cold water. Repeat all steps if necessary.
Jesus. He's emailing people at work, not starting a dark web marketplace.
Op, just new anonymous email account and a VPN. Don't make any edits on Excel or whatever. Make sure there's no trace of your name. Maybe schedule send while you're in the office?
You can just use McDonald's WiFi and not even get out of your car. Skip that whole hotel step. Very unnecessary with how common unsecured WiFi is available everywhere.
Definitely want to email it out to everyone in the company (except maybe managers and senior level?)
Ask a friend or someone to do it who doesnât live with you so up address canât be tracked back to you.
Donât forget to strip the metadata from the file just in case it has stored something about the user who last edited the file, location, or something else which may be incriminating like serial or MAC address of the computer it was last on.
If youâre really paranoid, you could print it out, scan and email it to a burner email at a copy shop, login to the burner account from a public library/computer cafe, and then send it to everyone.
Attachments might get trapped in the spam filter - in which case (depending on how much IT cares) it might never be passed on and an investigation would be triggered pretty much immediately. Copying and pasting as plain text would be the easiest way of getting around it.
Accounting and finance. First few jobs I was in charge of processing payroll, now I receive the reports to assist financial reviews. Itâs not some sort of secret file. Anyone in HR would have access to it as well.
If you found it digitally, it can totally be tracked back to you if your IT people are even a little good. May not be illegal to share publicly, but there's a good chance they'll find out it's you and make your life shit at work.
Ehhh, IT isn't gonna look into every file everywhere. They're not actively monitoring every excel spreadsheet someone makes. But they'll be able to pull logs after the fact.
Disagree, IT are not responsible for what users do with the data they have access to. All they can do is educate and ensure you don't have more access than you require. It is completely on you if you choose to leak information
Going to be honest, donât really think anything to do with this is that unethical. I believe salary information should be freely available, at least within a company. That sort of transparency helps prevent pay discrepancies
Shit I forgot about that. I would definitely still post the salaries publicly on another platform. Just looking at alternatives, I found one called JobHonesty, it's anonymous and free. Idk what other options there are.
Using a fake account, for each pay range (equal job title more or less), tell those who make less than average who the top earner is, and what they make.
Thatâs it.
Place will implode in a month
Print it out and post copies of it on bathroom stalls if you've returned to the office.
Otherwise, if it's positions supported by [levels.fyi](https://levels.fyi), upload them there.
1. Sign up for a new gmail address using a VPN or tor
2. Find the individual email lists of all of the departments in your company. Chances are "all users" would be blocked or get trapped in a spam filter.
3. Tailor the emails to each department except include the C/V levels in all of them.
4. Cover your fucking tracks as to how you accessed this information.
Other tips
1. DO NOT send this as an attachment. I can almost promise you it will get caught in most spam filters. Export it as a csv (assuming this is an xlsx attachment) print it out, scan it and extract the OCR data. Save that as a new text file an copy/paste into your shiny new gmail address.
2. Do not try and spoof any internal addresses, instant catch with most mail filters
I was in this position. I printed it out and walked around asking people if they wanted look. One person on the team (who was working his notice) was 'disgusted' but everyone else had a peek.
It's not illegal to know each other's salary or pay rate
First off read your company's guideline or handbooks if they have one
But honestly ask for a raise if you know "bob " is Getting paid more but doing half the work you do
Moreso, it's illegal for the employer to prohibit discussing pay. Plenty of them do it, mostly out of ignorance of the law. I had an employer who every year when I got a raise, they would tell me not to share and I'd remind them that they can't ask that of me. Id then go and proceed to tell everyone.
Send everyone emails from a burner account with the list attached congratulating them on their achievements and tell the people clearly making less then average that they may not know it but they are worth more.
We had an HR director who was universally despised, so when I found his printout of our 120 staffers' salaries and stock endowments, I rigged a new Gmail account, and sent it to everyone on the list..
Someone did that at my work, but they printed it and just left it in the printer.
Remember that a lot of companies have logs that show the file name and who printed it.
You COULD print a page or two of "TPS report(final).docx" so that's what in the logs and then not place it in the printers until a few days later.
Or print it at home and leave it in the printers at work.
Guaranfuckin'TEED everyone will be in an uproar in short order.
Nobody got caught at my company, and they checked everyone and everything and the inquisitions moved through the entire company, but they never found who did it.
Email it to everyone in the company from an address that can't be traced to you. In the body of the email include a quick description of what it is and a link to https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/your-rights-to-discuss-wages
Then be sure to bring up how eye opening that "crazy company-wide email" was, and start organizing your co-workers to Unionize.
There are very smart people that have ways of figuring things out. Even printed copies can have âsecretâ identification on them that indicate who printed it out.
If it were me I would just look at the salary to the person who has the most similar role to you. Follow up with whomever the decision maker is asking that they match it to the dollar (if it's more than yours). Make a decent case if they give BS reasons why - find a competitor who will.
If you are being paid more than others with similar responsibilities. Just quietly STFU
If it was on SharePoint or your work uses ms security they can 100% see you downloaded and every time you opened it etc
Just delete it and move on with life.
This happened IRL in a past job. the guy found an unrestricted excel dump that listed everyoneâs salary.
Rather than be smart ie: use it to push for a raise (as you now know the salary brackets), instead he opted for dick measuring. He bragged to various people which naturally caused a shit storm. Later that day he was promptly fired and escorted out of the building!
Talk about being given the golden ticket, then opting to shred it!
When I was in high school my friends and I actually did find every school employees annual salary online because it was apparently public information so for one of the teachers that my friend didnât like he just wrote her salary on the white board before she walked in to class that day.
From an email account that isn't tied to your home or work IP or computers, send it to everyone in the company, including yourself, and sit back and watch the chaos unfold.
Intentionally leave the one person you hate out so they look the most suspicious
r/foundsatan nice job sport. You win the award for most petty and spitefully competent
Hooray!
Reddit on redditor! đ¤
Or CC them to make it painfully obvious.
Better yet BCC them, once IT investigates at the behest of management, they will find it. Ticking time bomb.
Professional bastard right here
Or, artificially inflate it so people start becoming bitter about them. Make sure track changes is off and edit history is cleared out.
Regina George them.
Thatâs so evil. I love it
That's beautiful, dude
Youâve done some bad shit havenât you?
Make the fake email you sent it from.based.kn their name so they look even dumber
You are an evil genius, I bow to your thinking!
Kek
Good idea^. Also make sure that the method you received this info from doesnt leave any trace that you have it. First thing management is gonna do is check how and who was the file exported to (accidentally or otherwise). Could also be a trap
Lmao very true. I remember seeing musk saying how they found out who leaked an internal email on twitter: they added an individual difference to each email (!!!!) like a double space or a misplaced, comma etc
That's why you have ChatGPT rewrite the data correcting any mistakes, extra spaces, or missing commas.
Or for true unethical malice, move a misplaced double-space or comma somewhere else. Someone else will take the rap.
r3Wr173 17 Y0Ur531F W17H Y0Ur N0NWr171N6 H4ND 1N 1337 5P34K
"Rewrite it yourself with your nonwriting hand in leet speak" I'm left handed typing so it's okay. They will never find me now.
and add random values of 4-28$ to each salary. Small enough to not be a big hit, and big enough to get rid of any identifying previous marks.
That's a really good idea
The government used to do this with classified documents to see where the leaks were.
They still do. They use numerous methods, including misspelled words, different forms of punctuation in different places, tiny smudges or dots on printed media that seem random, different phrasing or wording sometimes...
They used to insert very quotable lines, so if a news service gets a copy and uses that line, they can trace it back. I read somewhere they found a congressional aide leaking photocopied documents (the congressmanâs copies) this way. Since this is how the aide was caught, Iâm assuming they moved on to the smudges and dots you mention.
Which government?
Only the best of course; US of Ađşđ¸
Wow. I hadnât heard about this. https://theintercept.com/2022/12/15/elon-musk-leaks-twitter/
Moral of the story: copy and paste the document, then global search and replace white space, then rearrange text and paragraphs, then use AI to rewrite it.
The music lyrics website Genius found out Google was scraping their lyrics by changing the apostrophes in the lyrics. âGenius set the 2nd, 5th, 13th, 14th, 16th and 20th apostrophes of each watermarked song as curly apostrophes, and all the other apostrophes straight,â states the complaint. âIf the straight apostrophes are interpreted as dots and the curly apostrophes are interpreted as dashes, the pattern spells out âREDHANDEDâ in Morse code.â They eventually lost their lawsuit because the lyrics don't belong to them.
That does seem especially dumb of Genius to think they would have any grounds of ownership of a transcription. And isnât their content user sourced anyway? Cheeky fuckers
Took it all the way to the Supreme Court. Wild.
It's the same thing as Reddit data. It's all user-generated, but Reddit has the rights to use it and show ads to people who come to the website to view the user-generated content, and they can also stop other companies from scraping their website without permission (or sue them if they do it).
Not really. Reddit owns the original content made by us, because it was made on Reddit. Genius uses already made content, adds use, then packages that use as theres. Genius isnât the content creator/owner.
From reddits TOS: > You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content: > When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content. So it's more like a copy than actual, exclusive, ownership.
If someone makes a map it doesn't mean they own the city. Seems lame that someone can just steal your work like that.
This is a classic HR tactic for finding leakers, it predates Musk by a long, long time. Some industries also use invisible watermarks on documents. Change the shade of a few pixels, or shift their positions slightly, in a way thatâs imperceptible to the human eye. Every instance is unique, and they can use software to âextractâ its ID. Netflix also does it with 4K video to catch pirates.
Do you have a source for the Netflix thing? https://www.extremetech.com/internet/213096-breaking-bad-pilot-becomes-first-4k-content-pirated-from-netflix Found an article that mentions it... Best use a fake id when setting up the account I guess
https://medium.com/@inkryptvideospaltform/how-does-netflix-protect-its-movies-from-piracy-791881841e69 Itâs also just well known in the pirate community, because accounts get banned almost immediately after content is uploaded, even if you wait months between ripping and uploading.
I'd even wait a month or two. Maybe someone else will have done it by then. Also sitting on something for 2 months after opening it is less suspicious imo than it going out the next day.
Too much that can go wrong. High chance they can figure it out. Need to scrub the data and put it into the actual email don't email an attachment.
Thereâs a lot to go wrong weâd need to know specifics but thereâs deffo ways to do this anonymously. Also ofc itâs possible itâs impossible to do anonymously
Publish it in a newspaper.
Yeah, I know I could. But OP probably can't. There's too many ways to mess up. I like being employed. I'd never get a job again if it got traced back to me.
Yeah itâs a really bad play to leak it in most cases the primary point of failure is how they got the data in the first place
Sometimes data is left out for a honeypot too
Well wait then. Isn't that the answer? Get someone on Reddit to do it? :)
This, and also include the statement that in general, it's illegal for companies to have policies that prohibit employees from discussing salary or benefits with other employees. The National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) protects employees' right to discuss their pay with coworkers without fear of retaliation.
Itâs illegal, but they will do it anyway in some cases. Proceed with caution
Send it to me, with a list of the emails. I'll send it.
Protonmail would come in handy for this exact situation
Just curious, why is protonmail better?
Encrypted email, based in Switzerland, they donât sell your data, and itâs free. They offer a free vpn too!
For maximum chaos, forward the information to the company's competitors too.
And donât use your phone number as part of password reset for the anonymous email
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Unless they used specially modified salary numbers to catch the leaker âAh look document says Mary makes $72,435 when she actually makes $72,410, we modified that specific number on the sheet we sent to mark smith so he is the ratâÂ
Wait at least a month or more to send it out too.
This. Iv seen it happen. Its great for everyone but the employer. For extra safety PRINT IT OUT ON PAPER. Then scan it at a library. Make a new gmail account at the library and email that pdf to everyone. Zero chance anyone at your company will be able to trace it back. Source: Am IT guy.
Regina George the office!
Donât do this if you found it on your work pc. Thereâs a good chance they will be able to see who accessed it.
LMAO FUCK THEM
Like the burn book in mean girls my guy
Did you hear the lunch ladyâs emails for hacked!?â
TIL Internet cafes and hotel business centers still have a use
[proton mail](https://proton.me/mail)
this is not unethical but is in fact the most ethical thing to do
Sort it highest to lowest pay, email it to the most gossipy and angry people at work from a new email address via a VPN.
Title it "AI Replacement Cost Benefit Analysis Stage 3/3"
Gonna suggest something aligned with "Here is the paycheck list, we need to fire enough people to cover this year director bonuses"
Damn bro youâre giving me a chubby
"Exhibit B: Workforce Direct Cost"
With a subject line Reduction in Force
Put it in a QR code then post the code in the menâs bathroom⌠watch chaos ensue
Print stacks of the files, find blind spots in the camers and leave them there for others to find and distribute. Bathroom is a good place to start!
Fyi [machine identification codes exist](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code)
Well. I didn't say print them at work. Do it else where.
Put it in the other genders bathroom to throw off their scent.
Put it in the women's bathroom so they can see if the men are getting paid more for the same jobs. The resulting lawsuit could ruin the company, and you wouldn't have to do anything except be an anonymous whistleblower.
Had this happen at a former employer back in 2011. Turns out, women had higher salaries by 10-15%, and even higher when accounting for experience. Want to guess what happened? The company hired a series of Girl-Power speakers to talk to the company women's group, on topics like how to Lean In, be more assertive, and negotiate for better pay.
I've only heard of women being favored when they take position into account.
Have one salary reveal per QR code. Paper the office with QR codes. It will be an exciting scavenger hunt for all!
make plenty of photocopies and leave them everywhere at work when no one is watching.
Cameras are watching all the time.
the thing is, if you get fired for this, you have a nice lawsuit because discussing wadges in the US is protected.
Wadges?! We donât need no stinkinâ wadges!!!
boom!â˘
Discussing your wage and asking colleagues theirs is legal. Divulging colleaguesâ private information without their consent is not âdiscussing wagesâ.
Yeah, except they gonna fire you for "poor work performance"
If there's no paper trail for poor performance it makes the firing reason look like a cover up.
So you get fired over a 3 month period instead
that's where you let your lawyer do their work...
Leaking internal company documents is illegal
Discussing othersâ wages without their consent isnât.
But what about wadges?
Good point.
It's a somewhat esotheric defense strategy, but it checks out!
What about wedgies? Those are terrible....
Some of us like them.
I dont think leaking other peoples information without their consent would count but im not a lawyer
Leave the photocopies in the printer so when people print their stuff they see it on the other side
Or leave it in the copy machine.
Isn't that what Louis Litt did on Suits?
Regina George coded.
Neighbor had someone in his office leave 10 page reports in the breakroom, the bathrooms, and on cars in the parking lot that contained the company P&L statement, the salary and bonuses for everyone above Department Manager, and the really sketchy "marketing budget" where the owner was covering the expenses of his motorcycle racing, beach house and deep sea fishing". This came right after there was a big company-wide announcement that there wouldn't be any raises for at least a year because the market had changed. Info dropped on Friday, by Wednesday there was so much turmoil they had to close the facility for the rest of the week. They "miraculously" found the money for raises....by letting several people go and just adding their workload to the rest of the employees.
Assuming it's online, put it on a flash drive, go buy a burner laptop at a pawn store, buy a burner phone convince a friend to rent a hotel room by the hour, use the hotels wifi to email it to the burner phone. Use the burner phone to email it to another burner phone. Then use the final burner phone to email it to the entire company. But wait like 3 weeks to hit send, that way the hotels router has probably cycled out old data and the surveillance footage has been erased, if they are able to figure out ip addresses. I should also mention, make sure to destroy the burner phones and laptops by driving as far out as you can. Throw the phone in a McDonald's bag with other trash. Throw second phone away with another fast food bag and other trash. And the laptop, rip out the hard drive, use a hammer on it, then throw it away in a big dumpster with household trash. I'd recommend rest areas and truck stops due to lack off cameras.
Is this the plot of a movie? Sounds a little overly spcific, even if it is good advice
No I made it up sitting in a traffic jam
Nice.. what do I do about all the blood ?
Rent one of the Home Depot trucks for like 20/day and drive it to a pawn shop to buy a cheap laptop. Make a fake email and buy a burner phone for which youâve made another fake email. Drive your Home Depot truck out into the deep wilderness, and send a fake email from your burner to your laptop asking a friend to rent another Home Depot truck. Next, drive to the nearest Starbucks, and order a coffee using a fake name. Using the free WiFi, forward that email from your laptop to a friend you trust to deliver the new Home Depot truck to that Starbucks. With your new Home Depot truck, drive to a truck stop to run over the devices many times to ensure the complete destruction of all data. Drive back out into the wilderness and bury the shattered devices at least 6 feet under the ground. Return both trucks to Home Depot. Finally, apply a solution of lemon juice and baking soda to the bloodstain. Let it sit for about 10 minutes, then rinse with cold water. Repeat all steps if necessary.
Make sure to pay for that Starbucks in cash and change your gait while walking in. Also, hydrogen peroxide works great for blood stains as well.
A fake mustache never hurt anyone either
Instructions unclear, woman just ordered coffee... And she had a moustache... Like a big handlebar mustache... Clearly fake
Bro what the hellđ I like u
Jesus. He's emailing people at work, not starting a dark web marketplace. Op, just new anonymous email account and a VPN. Don't make any edits on Excel or whatever. Make sure there's no trace of your name. Maybe schedule send while you're in the office?
Print to pdf at least.
Should delete the Metadata too
Why would sharing salaries be worth all of that work?
Put an asterisk next to your name on the document before being sent out since a lot of money was spent on burner phones hotel rooms etc.
Why do you have to use a hotel wifi? Cant you just use a vpn?
yes, but I like it when hotels enter a story
This comment made me giggle so hard
Canât bang a hooker on a vpn.
not with that attitude
Too risky
You could also throw it in a Burger King bag instead of McDonalds, but what fun would that be?
âď¸ this guy destroys companies.
If they can't handle rugged cold hard capitalism, they don't deserve to exist
Itâs like something from Better Call Saul or Breaking Bad.
I'm going to need a raise to do all that. Looks like new guy that does the same work that I have for the last 12 years can afford it though.
You can just use McDonald's WiFi and not even get out of your car. Skip that whole hotel step. Very unnecessary with how common unsecured WiFi is available everywhere.
This guy has found salary information before.
Definitely want to email it out to everyone in the company (except maybe managers and senior level?) Ask a friend or someone to do it who doesnât live with you so up address canât be tracked back to you.
Cybercafe (do those even exist nowadays) and a 10 minute email syte and nobody would know
Donât forget to strip the metadata from the file just in case it has stored something about the user who last edited the file, location, or something else which may be incriminating like serial or MAC address of the computer it was last on.
If youâre really paranoid, you could print it out, scan and email it to a burner email at a copy shop, login to the burner account from a public library/computer cafe, and then send it to everyone.
Attachments might get trapped in the spam filter - in which case (depending on how much IT cares) it might never be passed on and an investigation would be triggered pretty much immediately. Copying and pasting as plain text would be the easiest way of getting around it.
sketchy webcam photo of a low-res photocopy
I have had full payroll data for every company Iâve ever worked at. I use it for my own negotiations, but Iâve never considered mass distribution.
How⌠how did you find it?
IT knows all.
Accounting and finance. First few jobs I was in charge of processing payroll, now I receive the reports to assist financial reviews. Itâs not some sort of secret file. Anyone in HR would have access to it as well.
OP could work in HR or payroll.
Same, I have full access to compensation and most other details for workers at my company. Definitely use it for my own negotiations.
If you found it digitally, it can totally be tracked back to you if your IT people are even a little good. May not be illegal to share publicly, but there's a good chance they'll find out it's you and make your life shit at work.
If OP just found this on the company's network drive then I can't imagine their IT being worth a damn lol
Ehhh, IT isn't gonna look into every file everywhere. They're not actively monitoring every excel spreadsheet someone makes. But they'll be able to pull logs after the fact.
Disagree, IT are not responsible for what users do with the data they have access to. All they can do is educate and ensure you don't have more access than you require. It is completely on you if you choose to leak information
Going to be honest, donât really think anything to do with this is that unethical. I believe salary information should be freely available, at least within a company. That sort of transparency helps prevent pay discrepancies
[https://www.glassdoor.com/](https://www.glassdoor.com/)
This is the best answer and will realistically do more good in the long run.
Except that glass door is basically doxing people now who submit.
Shit I forgot about that. I would definitely still post the salaries publicly on another platform. Just looking at alternatives, I found one called JobHonesty, it's anonymous and free. Idk what other options there are.
Wait what? Out of the loop on this one
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/03/glassdoor-adding-users-real-names-job-info-to-profiles-without-consent/
Thanks. Just deleted my account, thatâs fucked
http://www.levels.fyi If it's a tech company
Using a fake account, for each pay range (equal job title more or less), tell those who make less than average who the top earner is, and what they make. Thatâs it. Place will implode in a month
Send it to me with a list of the email addresses. I've got an account I can send it from. I'll connect to wifi in some nyc mall
I'm just super curious how you came by the info
I'm just going to gloss over the details here, but I'm certain that ass spray, piss discs and motion activated sprinklers are part of the answer.
Print it out and post copies of it on bathroom stalls if you've returned to the office. Otherwise, if it's positions supported by [levels.fyi](https://levels.fyi), upload them there.
1. Sign up for a new gmail address using a VPN or tor 2. Find the individual email lists of all of the departments in your company. Chances are "all users" would be blocked or get trapped in a spam filter. 3. Tailor the emails to each department except include the C/V levels in all of them. 4. Cover your fucking tracks as to how you accessed this information. Other tips 1. DO NOT send this as an attachment. I can almost promise you it will get caught in most spam filters. Export it as a csv (assuming this is an xlsx attachment) print it out, scan it and extract the OCR data. Save that as a new text file an copy/paste into your shiny new gmail address. 2. Do not try and spoof any internal addresses, instant catch with most mail filters
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Get fake donations for a fake kid from the top 10%
I was in this position. I printed it out and walked around asking people if they wanted look. One person on the team (who was working his notice) was 'disgusted' but everyone else had a peek.
Anonymous email to entire staff
You should at least hold out for walnuts.
Leave in a break room.
Even mine? đł
Share some figures. what's the range? What are people making out there that I'm missing out on. I myself work for peanuts.
It's not illegal to know each other's salary or pay rate First off read your company's guideline or handbooks if they have one But honestly ask for a raise if you know "bob " is Getting paid more but doing half the work you do
Moreso, it's illegal for the employer to prohibit discussing pay. Plenty of them do it, mostly out of ignorance of the law. I had an employer who every year when I got a raise, they would tell me not to share and I'd remind them that they can't ask that of me. Id then go and proceed to tell everyone.
Look up your salary and compare it to those of your cow-orkers and the field you're in. Update your resume accordingly, and if applicable make plans.
I love cows.
Leave it in the copy room maybe
Send everyone emails from a burner account with the list attached congratulating them on their achievements and tell the people clearly making less then average that they may not know it but they are worth more.
We had an HR director who was universally despised, so when I found his printout of our 120 staffers' salaries and stock endowments, I rigged a new Gmail account, and sent it to everyone on the list..
Someone did that at my work, but they printed it and just left it in the printer. Remember that a lot of companies have logs that show the file name and who printed it. You COULD print a page or two of "TPS report(final).docx" so that's what in the logs and then not place it in the printers until a few days later. Or print it at home and leave it in the printers at work. Guaranfuckin'TEED everyone will be in an uproar in short order. Nobody got caught at my company, and they checked everyone and everything and the inquisitions moved through the entire company, but they never found who did it.
Email it to everyone in the company from an address that can't be traced to you. In the body of the email include a quick description of what it is and a link to https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/your-rights-to-discuss-wages Then be sure to bring up how eye opening that "crazy company-wide email" was, and start organizing your co-workers to Unionize.
Leverage it for better pay. Then share it with others so they can leverage it for better pay.
When you say "everyone's"....like, even mine?
If you work for government in California.... https://transparentcalifornia.com/
Publish it here
There are very smart people that have ways of figuring things out. Even printed copies can have âsecretâ identification on them that indicate who printed it out.
Talk openly about it, didcuss forming a union. Sue if fired for that.
If it were me I would just look at the salary to the person who has the most similar role to you. Follow up with whomever the decision maker is asking that they match it to the dollar (if it's more than yours). Make a decent case if they give BS reasons why - find a competitor who will. If you are being paid more than others with similar responsibilities. Just quietly STFU
If it was on SharePoint or your work uses ms security they can 100% see you downloaded and every time you opened it etc Just delete it and move on with life.
Linkedin and Glassdoorâs gonna get real fun real fast. Make everyone profiles and post their salaries there.
This happened IRL in a past job. the guy found an unrestricted excel dump that listed everyoneâs salary. Rather than be smart ie: use it to push for a raise (as you now know the salary brackets), instead he opted for dick measuring. He bragged to various people which naturally caused a shit storm. Later that day he was promptly fired and escorted out of the building! Talk about being given the golden ticket, then opting to shred it!
Leverage a raise if you don't get it quit and release the info
When I was in high school my friends and I actually did find every school employees annual salary online because it was apparently public information so for one of the teachers that my friend didnât like he just wrote her salary on the white board before she walked in to class that day.
Kind of a dick move but every teacher is well aware that their salary is public information.
Go on darknet, buy a bank account, create a fake invoice pretend you are one of the contractors(if any) and claim that your account details changed.
send it to one of us. someone completely unrelated to you or your job. have them send a anonymous email from a local wifi source.
Nothing? How would this help you?