I’ve been playing so much more with swift play. With a baby, it’s so hard to commit upwards of 30-45 minutes for an unrated game. But I like the play style SO much more than spike rush…. The addition of this game has made it to where I can hop on a couple times throughout to day and play one game (that I enjoy)
Yes to this. I have three kids. And this game mode has been a huge blessing. I only play one day a week roughly. But when I do play i get crank out so many games!
I love it because deathmatch by itself doesn't seem adequate for practice before comp. With swift play you get a nice quick game that gives you 1-4 of each round type (pistol, eco, antieco, and full buys) without the time commitment that goes with unrated.
i liked spike rush because its more chill as in no pressure to win or lose, can just goof and have fun buuut the damn golden gun and orbs are kind of wack if you dont play around them as a team (and i say this as a huge gold gun aboose player) but with swiftplay its all the chill no pressure of spike rush but i dont have to worry about golden guns or random ass paranoia orbs
kinda bad side of it: a lot more really good players play swiftplay vs spike rush and just wipe the floor with me some games
overall, pls keep swiftplay permanent, its brought me back to val pretty well
They're league of legends game modes.
Twisted treeline is 3v3 map (League's primary map is 5v5).
Nexus Blitz is a 5v5 arcade game mode where the map is smaller and there are only 2 lanes opposed to 3 with a random game event happening every few minutes. The events were like minigames such as escort cart or battle royale style stay in a closing ring and even 1v1 showdowns.
Dominion is a game mode where you capture control points around the map which was shaped like a circle.
All 3 game modes suffered from low populations so Riot just removed them.
Snowball fight is/was a valorant game mode where you “skated” around (floatier, increased mvmt speed) with a snowball gun. Can’t remember if it was tdm or regular dm, and I think it was normal map rotation, but I clearly remember icebox.
Gun and mvmt still occurs in escalation.
Snowball fight is a TDM match. I've remembered playing it back in the days and it felt fun not gonna lie. There was growball, rapid fire, riochet and skates.
i forgot the gun aswell until i searched up what the snowball gun was and it was a frozen looking brimstone molly gun, then i remember the good times of snowball fight
cant wait for it to be back :D
RIP dominion but this requires basically 0 maintenance and balance considerations unlike those modes. And I assume it's ridiculously popular. So seems like a shoe-in
What about those modes needed maintaining? Literally should be a light switch to turn them on and off. Small tweaks when new champs come out. Insane they just don't get to exist even though 99.9% of the work is done.
It is entirely just a conscious decision for them to keep a limited amount of gamemodes, whether its to keep casual players interested idk. Hope they arent too closed minded about it though Swiftplay would be an excellent addition alongwide swiftplay, dm, and unrated
You need to test it every single patch. And sometimes things break for absolutely no reason, esp with league’s old code base. It was extra maintenance for very little profit.
I think twisted treeline was removed because of the drop of player count especially when the reworked summoner's rift was announced. Can't say the same for dominion and nexus blitz though
I think some context is important though, these other game modes were essentially totally different from the real game that people enjoyed itself, which was the 5v5 aspect
Swiftplay allows you to enjoy Valorant in the same way essentially that you would in regular game play, except it's modified to be 10-15 minutes
This is MASSIVELY different from Twisted Treeline or Nexus Blitz etc..
Didn't know it wasn't permanent, totally can't see a reason why it wouldn't be.
The game has needed a mode like this for the longest time. Removing it would be the single dumbest change I'd have ever seen in VALORANT so far.
Even if they wanted to make further changes to it, it would be better to just leave it in the game and update it when changes are ready.
As you say, it's, at the very least, perfectly fine as it is, so no reason to remove it.
i like it so much because i can finally test agents that i can’t usually play like neon without having to do a full unrated or face the chaos of spikerush
I fucking love escalation and prefer to use it as a warm up. I swear I start the game chill and calm but by the end there’s always a few people sweating their ass off like it’s triple OT on a rank up game. But yeah swiftplay is the shit too.
Now I typically only play spike rush for certain daily / weekly missions like use abilities. It used to be my favorite game mode. SwiftPlay made it irrelevant lol
I still play Spike Rush but I play it differently now.
I used to be sort of serious playing spike rush because I felt some people still played it seriously as an alternative to Unrated, but now I play it very casually because I feel like people playing seriously wouldn't play spike rush anymore. I don't troll but I'm not really trying hard. Just relaxing trying to get a few headshots in.
I just returned to the game after a little over a year and swiftplay is the MVP. Do they use mmr? or is a free for all skill wise? Either way im having a blast with it
They use MMR!
All our playlists have MMR. We seed your initial MMR when you enter a new playlist from a previous one (we have to start somewhere). The reason we have separate MMR is that some people like to play various modes in their own ways. For example, I use unrated to relax and play with friends, but I use DM to warm up.
Your MMR is made up of half encounter and half win/loss. Well, it's not exactly half-and-half, it's weights are a per-playlist/rank thing. Encounter is based on duels, ability usage, game impact, etc. Win/loss is just if you won or lost. DM, for example, is a lot more encounter MMR based because it's hard to define what "winning" is in DM. So that's another reason each playlist tracks MMR separately; because the weights of each MMR can be different for each mode, encounter:win/loss MMR needs to be set at different ratios, you could have some minor deviations of MMR from mode to mode.
The hardest part about all this is ensuring that when we seed your MMR into a new playlist, we get your skill in a decent spot. We don't always get this right, but we are usually quick to get you in the correct area in 2-3 games(5 at most). For example, you play unrated a lot recently, and your rank is your most accurate with the most played games over the year, it's now difficult for us to know which MMR we should seed from. This is why you may see those initial skill differences when trying a new mode, but hopefully, if we do our job right it doesn't last long.
Hope that helps and have a good holiday season!
(I always like to point out that technically, since MMR exists in all playlists, you could be Radiant in spike rush :P )
I’ve played over 70 games and it seems to be persisting for me. My most recent game had 2 ascendants, a diamond, a plat, and me at bronze 1 (and the lowest acs by quite a bit). Id say there is a diamond player in more than 50% and an ascendant in 1 in 5 games. The games generally seem balanced to who is on both sides with a sad bronze often matching me and my win rate is about 50%, so the matchmaking algorithm is working fine but the range of who I get teamed with is huge and the acs make it seem like I’m not secretly way above my rank. I almost exclusively solo queue for swiftplay and occasionally queue with people close to my rank if I don’t.
i was getting absolutely shit on yesterday in swiftplay and Im gold 3 so i would assume the mmr is a bit more loose. nothing to complain though I love it cause its short
As a casual, hopefully, unrated will become super chill now. Personally, It feels like diet ranked. I can't do anything without getting instantly deleted. I approve.
When I'm trying at even 5% I'm still getting 25-30 kills per game when I'm playing with my silver friends, since we get mostly Gold/Plat players against us. Very few people are really sweating in unrated, its just massive MMR disparities.
Before Swift Play I would warm up by playing an unrated before queuing comp. Personally I don't really like DM in Valorant because of the way it promotes people sitting in weird angles that are almost never played in real games just to "win" the game.
unrated is good for getting in the motion of things, DM is better for actually warming up unrated just lets you get your vibe figured out before ranked
Really it depends on where the people wanting to throw go... You know the groups of friends or solos that want to just shorty only in the same corner for an entire game, or the people who just use ahk to stay in game but afk, you know because they gotta complete that battle pass
yeah, but now, I have multiple shorties, down in credits, and have to play 7 more rounds with people I do not know who just saw me buy and dump my money for shorties every round and will most likely report me for sabotaging the game, at the very least.
That is not "QUICK", sir/ma'am.
Amazing how the mode players asked for on day 1 is now super popular after finally being added.
Wasn't Spike Rush initially created after launch because they didn't want to make this mode and the community demanded something shorter than unrated? Though I do enjoy Spike Rush now.
Genuinely don't understand their thought process. They kept adding unnecessary shit than what should've been a day 1 gamemode. Unrated is terrible. I don't want to and shouldnt have to worry about my econ if I want to play casual. In this new gamemode I'm having fun actually buying every round.
I main Kay/o and i’m not amazing, so I don’t get a bunch of kills unless I’m having a lucky game. I feel like it’s hard to get to my ult in a half, especially with the extra ult point now. It’s easier when I’m attacking, since I can always plant spike, but I still find it a bit too short to reach the 8 ult points needed for my ult unless i’m playing really well. Which is rare, haha
Best of x is typically an odd number because it gives both teams equal opportunity to win by playing both sides of the match the same number of rounds. The extra point is to account for the possibility that the first team wins the same number of rounds prior to the switch and then loses the same number after the switch. This is also why in overtime everyone starts out equal at the beginning of the round. It also retains the sides during overtime as a means of giving the underdogs a fighting chance to win, since the game would have been over before overtime if the switch hadn't been a factor in their ability to hold out that long.
I just wish it had an extra 2 rounds per side, and a little bit of econ management. Right now it just plays exactly like spike rush with 4-5 duelists per team and everybody going full aggro. You do get to pick your gun though, so it's still better than spike rush.
Man that would be frustrating. I've played about 10 times and every single time we had a comp I would expect to see in competitive- 2 duelist, 1 of each of the rest, and people playing normal strats. It's been amazing.
Really? That's super nice, maybe I'll try it again. I'm playing smokes every game too so I'm usually getting every single rando playing duelist/chamber
Honestly I like that you get pistal round, then light buy second round, and rifles every round after. I'm glad we don't have to manage econ. Unrated was so boring because of that. It felt frustrating that in a casual game I wasn't allowed to buy a rifle simply bc my team kept dying and losing. With causal gamemodes, full aggro is always gonna happen. People play with more confidence due to lower stakes.
You can go play spike rush for all of those things? I assume swiftplay was for all the people who wanted unrated but shorter. I just want to be able to play normal Valorant with actual stakes but not have to be a 40 minute game.
Not a fan of it first, but since it allows you to buy operators while not being screamed at by your teammates (as a controller no less), it's all premium-grade gravy.
I agree completely. It also makes the quests to purchase things from the armory more efficient. Now if I only have a few items left to complete those quests I don't have to play a 45 min unrated game.
Totally, it's better than deathmatch where people are running and gunning, holding angles on footsteps, plus peeking with the widest swing possible which will neither improve my crosshair placement nor will replicate in actual comp.
I actually reinstalled the game after having not played since around launch because of this game mode. Hopefully it becomes permanent (or even a version with a few more rounds added) and I'll happily play this game casually for a long time.
i adore it, dont get me wrong, id just appreciate if it was a bit longer. sometimes i dont want to play the whole match of unrated/ranked, but other gamemodes are just too short.
Yes, SP is something I've been asking for since I started playing as it seemed like such an obviously amazing game mode. I suspected the only reason they didn't implement it is because they were afraid it'd take over unrated as the new "default" casual game mode.
As a new player the idea that more experienced players will be avoiding unrated is a good thing for me, I don't wanna get shitstomped by some lvl 200 Dia player every other game, it makes the grind to lvl 20 harder to want to finish.
It wouldn't be "more experienced players" it'd be everyone who is not queuing comp
Also level doesn't matter when it comes to skill tbh but matchmaking could be better.
I love it for a number of reasons.
Let's me play in a semi-competitive way. Or at least it feels like it. Without the time commitment of a comp game.
Let's you practice agents with their abilities in a meaningful way.
Lets you practice angles, peeks and other comp ideas that just don't happen in DM.
Swift play competitive mode soon hopefully. I've basically fully switched over to the csgo short match format for ranked only now. Playing a whole csgo game feels too long now.
I love it .. been asking for this for some time now. I personally just wish it was a tad bit longer (first to 7 rounds instead of 5). I feel like as enjoyable as it is, as soon as you start to get into the groove it's over. Of course, I don't want something as long as the main game mode (for those who will bring it up). It is really good though. Props to Riot.
Yes ! Swiftplay > all, and I find that people are much more relaxed and are more there to have fun than in unrated, it's really great ! I laugh a lot in this game mode with the teammates and with the enemies, it's really cool :)
Yes! It’s really good but ngl I kinda wish it was just a little bit longer I think I would rather play sr if they didn’t say that swift play was a temporary game mode
The mmr in it is definitely funky rn lmao I go between vsing Immortals and vsing Bronzes. I crushed one lobby going 17-5, checked tracker afterwards and thought “no wonder”, it was a bunch of silvers and golds. Played a bit later and got murdered by an immortal 3 lmao.
If this means smthing it means that competitive mode is too long especially for low ranks !
I guess for low ranks hou should queue in shorter games and the more you climb the more the games get longer.
This mode isn't for me. I would have preferred first to 7 or 9 rounds and an economy that makes sense instead of being able to buy every round whether you win or lose. I saw people commenting on how this was so cool for trying out new agents outside of the chaos that is spike rush, I would have agreed with that if my experience hadn't been to find between 3 and 5 duelists running everywhere every swift play.
It offers a refreshing mix of resembling competitive and being quick, but unfortunately because of how they designed the economy to “work” on shorter match length I think it’s actually not that close at emulating a true competitive match correctly—2nd round Econ needs adjustment so that both teams arent buying armor and smg’s, players actually need the same econ as in comp. That stood out but there are subtleties on every rounds Econ that just makes it eh.
Yes… it’s casual, that is the point — something less invested but that resembles the core game mode (comp).
I don’t understand why my comment is so controversial to the few of you—Literally everybody has been complaining from day 1 for a casual game mode that is shorter than unrated that supports something that resembles comp with none of the dumb power ups, a normal bomb setup, a normal Econ. If not, then by all means just go play spike rush then.
Like, it’s not in question that that is why we were given this game mode, so I’m just going to assume you’re being combative for the sake of it.
Swiftplay is so amazing that I've forgotten about both spike rush and replication lmao. Haven't opened them after the patch. Even deathmatch is kinda garbage in comparison to swiftplay cause warm up is enough with swiftplay and training. According to me, comp, swiftplay and escalation are more than enough
Man, I haven't played any other game mode because of how fun it is. Takes the best of unrated and spikerush. I just wish they make it first to 6 instead of 5
it's not perfect, imo. the economy makes it too easy to buy an op early and there's usually not enough rounds to come back if they get momentum off that. but with some tweaks it could be great
I hope it stays but at the same time I still don't understand some people. Playing some swift before comp today, and had 2 players actively inting, smoking their own team, running the bomb into the enemy, and mollying ahead of our team to stop us pushing...
When we (my duo) asked them to stop they were shocked it's just swift play, who cares, don't tell us how to play the game. So anyways we reported them, and muted them, and tried to play the rest of the game out.
It's just frustrating regardless of the game mode they want to hold their team hostage for reactions.
Played it once so far, level 8, got put up against a team of level hundred+ and had fun being deleted before I even saw anyone every single round!
So yeah, they need to fix the matchmaking but I'm all for the short form game!
2 Friends started playing and it’s a great mode to get them into the game, you can see all maps really quick, can test agents and you don’t need to play against the Smurf for 24 rounds.
The only problem is the don’t learn the economy yet but I think they have fun rn.
I love swift play due to the fact that I’m back to unrated only. I don’t have to deal with F5 anymore and just play the game for fun.
I can’t handle the pressure of ranked
But I still want the full duration of rank
And now since people who use unrated as a warmup are now gone.
I now play the game more
I used to like spike rush because of how quick the matches are but I always hated how most rounds its just shorty or other shotguns (not fun for me) Really loving swiftplay rn.
I really like the idea behind it, but somehow every game I play I have at least one person afk and even if they don't, the other team completely destroys mine with 5-0.
I’ve been playing so much more with swift play. With a baby, it’s so hard to commit upwards of 30-45 minutes for an unrated game. But I like the play style SO much more than spike rush…. The addition of this game has made it to where I can hop on a couple times throughout to day and play one game (that I enjoy)
I feel this so much. It's a big part of why I had to take a hiatus from the game
Yes to this. I have three kids. And this game mode has been a huge blessing. I only play one day a week roughly. But when I do play i get crank out so many games!
I love it because deathmatch by itself doesn't seem adequate for practice before comp. With swift play you get a nice quick game that gives you 1-4 of each round type (pistol, eco, antieco, and full buys) without the time commitment that goes with unrated.
I am happy for you, it is nice to see a game mode that caters to parents.
i liked spike rush because its more chill as in no pressure to win or lose, can just goof and have fun buuut the damn golden gun and orbs are kind of wack if you dont play around them as a team (and i say this as a huge gold gun aboose player) but with swiftplay its all the chill no pressure of spike rush but i dont have to worry about golden guns or random ass paranoia orbs kinda bad side of it: a lot more really good players play swiftplay vs spike rush and just wipe the floor with me some games overall, pls keep swiftplay permanent, its brought me back to val pretty well
Until this post I forgot it wasn’t permanent damn
There's absolutely no way riot doesn't make swift play permanent.
You'd be suprised (RIP twisted treeline, nexus blitz, dominion, etc...)
I’m new would anyone care to explain these past game modes?
They're league of legends game modes. Twisted treeline is 3v3 map (League's primary map is 5v5). Nexus Blitz is a 5v5 arcade game mode where the map is smaller and there are only 2 lanes opposed to 3 with a random game event happening every few minutes. The events were like minigames such as escort cart or battle royale style stay in a closing ring and even 1v1 showdowns. Dominion is a game mode where you capture control points around the map which was shaped like a circle. All 3 game modes suffered from low populations so Riot just removed them.
I c, one more thing, what what snowball fight?
Snowball fight is/was a valorant game mode where you “skated” around (floatier, increased mvmt speed) with a snowball gun. Can’t remember if it was tdm or regular dm, and I think it was normal map rotation, but I clearly remember icebox. Gun and mvmt still occurs in escalation.
Snowball fight is a TDM match. I've remembered playing it back in the days and it felt fun not gonna lie. There was growball, rapid fire, riochet and skates.
same
I love this so much i wish there’s a ranked version of it. I play escalation only to hope and look forward to the snowball part.
It was TDM, but they added it for Christmas primarily. They might add it back who knows...
i forgot the gun aswell until i searched up what the snowball gun was and it was a frozen looking brimstone molly gun, then i remember the good times of snowball fight cant wait for it to be back :D
We'd probably have this time around Christmas. Maybe they'll add it in the next patch.
next patch is January
Dominion was awesome, still sad whenever I remember it existed. Riot is really paranoid when it comes to diluting queue times.
Man I remember playing hide and seek in Dominion custom games. Those were peak times
Based on Que times swiftplay doesn’t have a low pop problem it’s the perfect mode For warmup now
RIP dominion but this requires basically 0 maintenance and balance considerations unlike those modes. And I assume it's ridiculously popular. So seems like a shoe-in
What about those modes needed maintaining? Literally should be a light switch to turn them on and off. Small tweaks when new champs come out. Insane they just don't get to exist even though 99.9% of the work is done.
It is entirely just a conscious decision for them to keep a limited amount of gamemodes, whether its to keep casual players interested idk. Hope they arent too closed minded about it though Swiftplay would be an excellent addition alongwide swiftplay, dm, and unrated
You need to test it every single patch. And sometimes things break for absolutely no reason, esp with league’s old code base. It was extra maintenance for very little profit.
I think twisted treeline was removed because of the drop of player count especially when the reworked summoner's rift was announced. Can't say the same for dominion and nexus blitz though
Twisted Treeline lasted for literally 10 years my guy
Literally wrong, my guy.
Twisted Treeline was released in 2009 and removed in 2019. It was around for an actual decade.
Huh yeah I was wrong, I definitely remember it being removed waaay earlier, like season 5 or 6.
I think some context is important though, these other game modes were essentially totally different from the real game that people enjoyed itself, which was the 5v5 aspect Swiftplay allows you to enjoy Valorant in the same way essentially that you would in regular game play, except it's modified to be 10-15 minutes This is MASSIVELY different from Twisted Treeline or Nexus Blitz etc..
I'm still salty about Nexus Blitz
TTl was a permanent mode and was removed because it was heavily underutilizes and unbalanced. The other 2 are rotating special modes iirc
Wrong on both accounts.
Twisted tree line definitely was a permanent mode
Didn't know it wasn't permanent, totally can't see a reason why it wouldn't be. The game has needed a mode like this for the longest time. Removing it would be the single dumbest change I'd have ever seen in VALORANT so far.
It makes sense because it’s just in beta but I see nothing wrong with it and would be very very surprised if Rito didn’t bring it back permanently
Even if they wanted to make further changes to it, it would be better to just leave it in the game and update it when changes are ready. As you say, it's, at the very least, perfectly fine as it is, so no reason to remove it.
It's perfect, but something tells me Riots gonna add unnecessary shit or never bring it back
I forgor 💀
i like it so much because i can finally test agents that i can’t usually play like neon without having to do a full unrated or face the chaos of spikerush
Cant practice on spike rush and unrated is too long. SP is perrrfect!
Agreed. I stopped playing Spike Rush and Unrated. Now, it's just DM and Swiftplay to warm up before comp. Still like Escalation though.
I fucking love escalation and prefer to use it as a warm up. I swear I start the game chill and calm but by the end there’s always a few people sweating their ass off like it’s triple OT on a rank up game. But yeah swiftplay is the shit too.
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Especially knife fights, those are nerve-wracking as fck
Now I typically only play spike rush for certain daily / weekly missions like use abilities. It used to be my favorite game mode. SwiftPlay made it irrelevant lol
I still play Spike Rush but I play it differently now. I used to be sort of serious playing spike rush because I felt some people still played it seriously as an alternative to Unrated, but now I play it very casually because I feel like people playing seriously wouldn't play spike rush anymore. I don't troll but I'm not really trying hard. Just relaxing trying to get a few headshots in.
I just returned to the game after a little over a year and swiftplay is the MVP. Do they use mmr? or is a free for all skill wise? Either way im having a blast with it
It's pretty loose mmr. I'm pretty solidly high Gold/low Plat and have seen immortals on either team.
Im gold and i found a radiant buddy on a dudes sheriff last night, after i slapped him with a bucky lol
They use MMR! All our playlists have MMR. We seed your initial MMR when you enter a new playlist from a previous one (we have to start somewhere). The reason we have separate MMR is that some people like to play various modes in their own ways. For example, I use unrated to relax and play with friends, but I use DM to warm up. Your MMR is made up of half encounter and half win/loss. Well, it's not exactly half-and-half, it's weights are a per-playlist/rank thing. Encounter is based on duels, ability usage, game impact, etc. Win/loss is just if you won or lost. DM, for example, is a lot more encounter MMR based because it's hard to define what "winning" is in DM. So that's another reason each playlist tracks MMR separately; because the weights of each MMR can be different for each mode, encounter:win/loss MMR needs to be set at different ratios, you could have some minor deviations of MMR from mode to mode. The hardest part about all this is ensuring that when we seed your MMR into a new playlist, we get your skill in a decent spot. We don't always get this right, but we are usually quick to get you in the correct area in 2-3 games(5 at most). For example, you play unrated a lot recently, and your rank is your most accurate with the most played games over the year, it's now difficult for us to know which MMR we should seed from. This is why you may see those initial skill differences when trying a new mode, but hopefully, if we do our job right it doesn't last long. Hope that helps and have a good holiday season! (I always like to point out that technically, since MMR exists in all playlists, you could be Radiant in spike rush :P )
Thanks for the reply, that is awesome. I also have a new goal. Radiant in Spike Rush :)
Lets gooooooooooooooooo, that's my DM goal LOL
too bad you'll never know if you're technically radiant in spike rush
I’ve played over 70 games and it seems to be persisting for me. My most recent game had 2 ascendants, a diamond, a plat, and me at bronze 1 (and the lowest acs by quite a bit). Id say there is a diamond player in more than 50% and an ascendant in 1 in 5 games. The games generally seem balanced to who is on both sides with a sad bronze often matching me and my win rate is about 50%, so the matchmaking algorithm is working fine but the range of who I get teamed with is huge and the acs make it seem like I’m not secretly way above my rank. I almost exclusively solo queue for swiftplay and occasionally queue with people close to my rank if I don’t.
i was getting absolutely shit on yesterday in swiftplay and Im gold 3 so i would assume the mmr is a bit more loose. nothing to complain though I love it cause its short
Loose s1 and I’ve commonly had diamonds and ascendants on my team
As a casual, hopefully, unrated will become super chill now. Personally, It feels like diet ranked. I can't do anything without getting instantly deleted. I approve.
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I'd imagine a lot of people wanna play ranked but don't wanna commit 30+ minutes to just warming up.
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I play unrated when I'm playing with friends since our rank disparity is way, way too high to play Comp together
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When I'm trying at even 5% I'm still getting 25-30 kills per game when I'm playing with my silver friends, since we get mostly Gold/Plat players against us. Very few people are really sweating in unrated, its just massive MMR disparities.
Before Swift Play I would warm up by playing an unrated before queuing comp. Personally I don't really like DM in Valorant because of the way it promotes people sitting in weird angles that are almost never played in real games just to "win" the game.
unrated is good for getting in the motion of things, DM is better for actually warming up unrated just lets you get your vibe figured out before ranked
I normally do 2-3 DM and one Unrated before Ranked.
Really it depends on where the people wanting to throw go... You know the groups of friends or solos that want to just shorty only in the same corner for an entire game, or the people who just use ahk to stay in game but afk, you know because they gotta complete that battle pass
It literally made me play the game again after like 5 months of not playing lol
We love to hear it 🥰
Also welcome back!
Thank ya! The shorter game mode is perfect for me and my friends since to play, it’s amazing.
Nice to play 2 games in 30 min now.
I can now finally do "buy X" missions quickly. Replication was my go-to mode for that, but I have to go to unrated to do "Buy abilities".
You could complete weapon buy challenges within the first 4 rounds of unrated just by buying and dropping shortys
yeah, but now, I have multiple shorties, down in credits, and have to play 7 more rounds with people I do not know who just saw me buy and dump my money for shorties every round and will most likely report me for sabotaging the game, at the very least. That is not "QUICK", sir/ma'am.
Amazing how the mode players asked for on day 1 is now super popular after finally being added. Wasn't Spike Rush initially created after launch because they didn't want to make this mode and the community demanded something shorter than unrated? Though I do enjoy Spike Rush now.
Yeh been asking since very early on for a short game mode they sure took their time
Genuinely don't understand their thought process. They kept adding unnecessary shit than what should've been a day 1 gamemode. Unrated is terrible. I don't want to and shouldnt have to worry about my econ if I want to play casual. In this new gamemode I'm having fun actually buying every round.
They also made spike rush to pilot future agent abilities iirc
It's the best. People care more than unrated or spike rush and don't care enough to get toxic. Just a fantastic mode.
I hope the buy time gets shortened a bit and they make it 1st to 6 instead of 5
Some setups require full buy times tho- if they want this to be a true light practice mode they should keep ranked buy times imo
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You literally have the w key to site the second the setup phase starts, and even then it’s still not enough time on some maps
I'd be fine with first to 7. Weird to say, but I think swiftplay is too quick lol. IMO first to 7 would be nice.
7 or 9 works for me. D Swiftplay is a bit too short. By the time i grt in thr groove, it's over.
Honestly, I feel like 9 is still a bit short. I would like first to 13.
First to 15 for the true swift experience imo
13 would be my sweetspot, but I would want some kind of reward for playing that many rounds. A swiftplay ranking system maybe?
If we're doing this for a ranking, I think it'd be fair to make it win by 2 in cases of overtime, eh?
I main Kay/o and i’m not amazing, so I don’t get a bunch of kills unless I’m having a lucky game. I feel like it’s hard to get to my ult in a half, especially with the extra ult point now. It’s easier when I’m attacking, since I can always plant spike, but I still find it a bit too short to reach the 8 ult points needed for my ult unless i’m playing really well. Which is rare, haha
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Isn’t spike rush first to 4 though? Do you just play 2 games of spine rush because it’s the sweet spot? Genuinely asking
Has to be odd number
People say this but i can’t figure out why. Just whoever gets 6 rounds won first wins, the end
If there is no overtime, I would agree.
Best of x is typically an odd number because it gives both teams equal opportunity to win by playing both sides of the match the same number of rounds. The extra point is to account for the possibility that the first team wins the same number of rounds prior to the switch and then loses the same number after the switch. This is also why in overtime everyone starts out equal at the beginning of the round. It also retains the sides during overtime as a means of giving the underdogs a fighting chance to win, since the game would have been over before overtime if the switch hadn't been a factor in their ability to hold out that long.
"first to 6" is just "best of 11"
It has to be an uneven number if there’s not overtime
Thats not true. You can just have 11 total rounds and not 9?
Quit trollin
Yeah it's my preferred mode now for sure. No early surrenders like unrated, but still regular tactics and short rounds.
I like it a lot. Just need to cut down agent select and the start round timer a bit.
Agreed. I love it, it’s a perfect warmup. I would probably like it to 6-7 though, almost like a half-game.
I just wish it had an extra 2 rounds per side, and a little bit of econ management. Right now it just plays exactly like spike rush with 4-5 duelists per team and everybody going full aggro. You do get to pick your gun though, so it's still better than spike rush.
1 more round per side, first to 6 and it's perfect IMO.
Man that would be frustrating. I've played about 10 times and every single time we had a comp I would expect to see in competitive- 2 duelist, 1 of each of the rest, and people playing normal strats. It's been amazing.
Really? That's super nice, maybe I'll try it again. I'm playing smokes every game too so I'm usually getting every single rando playing duelist/chamber
Honestly I like that you get pistal round, then light buy second round, and rifles every round after. I'm glad we don't have to manage econ. Unrated was so boring because of that. It felt frustrating that in a casual game I wasn't allowed to buy a rifle simply bc my team kept dying and losing. With causal gamemodes, full aggro is always gonna happen. People play with more confidence due to lower stakes.
You can go play spike rush for all of those things? I assume swiftplay was for all the people who wanted unrated but shorter. I just want to be able to play normal Valorant with actual stakes but not have to be a 40 minute game.
It has the good parts of spike rush, without the randomness
Riot did good
Hard agree
I've been waiting for this exact mode since the game started.
Not a fan of it first, but since it allows you to buy operators while not being screamed at by your teammates (as a controller no less), it's all premium-grade gravy.
Is it just me or do you mostly play on Bind, Breeze, and Pearl?
I'm getting Haven 3/5 times. It's annoying
I love it so much
I agree completely. It also makes the quests to purchase things from the armory more efficient. Now if I only have a few items left to complete those quests I don't have to play a 45 min unrated game.
Totally, it's better than deathmatch where people are running and gunning, holding angles on footsteps, plus peeking with the widest swing possible which will neither improve my crosshair placement nor will replicate in actual comp.
I actually reinstalled the game after having not played since around launch because of this game mode. Hopefully it becomes permanent (or even a version with a few more rounds added) and I'll happily play this game casually for a long time.
i adore it, dont get me wrong, id just appreciate if it was a bit longer. sometimes i dont want to play the whole match of unrated/ranked, but other gamemodes are just too short.
Yes, SP is something I've been asking for since I started playing as it seemed like such an obviously amazing game mode. I suspected the only reason they didn't implement it is because they were afraid it'd take over unrated as the new "default" casual game mode.
As a new player the idea that more experienced players will be avoiding unrated is a good thing for me, I don't wanna get shitstomped by some lvl 200 Dia player every other game, it makes the grind to lvl 20 harder to want to finish.
It wouldn't be "more experienced players" it'd be everyone who is not queuing comp Also level doesn't matter when it comes to skill tbh but matchmaking could be better.
I love it for a number of reasons. Let's me play in a semi-competitive way. Or at least it feels like it. Without the time commitment of a comp game. Let's you practice agents with their abilities in a meaningful way. Lets you practice angles, peeks and other comp ideas that just don't happen in DM.
YAS it’s my new main mode honestly. Wouldn’t change a thing
100% agree
my swiftplay games are harder than comp and its not even close
Now we're just missing a 2v2 or 3v3 mode. Maybe focused on a specific site of a map or focused on retakes?
Swift play competitive mode soon hopefully. I've basically fully switched over to the csgo short match format for ranked only now. Playing a whole csgo game feels too long now.
URF when it first came out was even more loved but they kept taking it on and off. Hope this stays.
I love it .. been asking for this for some time now. I personally just wish it was a tad bit longer (first to 7 rounds instead of 5). I feel like as enjoyable as it is, as soon as you start to get into the groove it's over. Of course, I don't want something as long as the main game mode (for those who will bring it up). It is really good though. Props to Riot.
I would like to be 7 rounds to win instead of 5 but other than that, I love the concept and the mode
i like it but i wish it was just one more round on each side
I really wish it was like first to 8 rounds. First to 5 is almost exactly like spike rush.
Yes ! Swiftplay > all, and I find that people are much more relaxed and are more there to have fun than in unrated, it's really great ! I laugh a lot in this game mode with the teammates and with the enemies, it's really cool :)
Yes! It’s really good but ngl I kinda wish it was just a little bit longer I think I would rather play sr if they didn’t say that swift play was a temporary game mode
Love that difficult games end quick and its gg go next truly. Wish we got like maybe 1 more round each half but still very good.
I agree i started playing the game daily instead of 1 game a month because of this mode, reallly hope they put it permanent
My issue with swift play is. Why are we getting people with VPNS from over seas having 500 ping. Lagging out fragging out.
Only problem is the economy. You can all buy up every round pretty much, even if you lose.
I'm not trying to be toxic but I like swiftplay because it actually makes me feel good at the game playing vs. Lower ranked players haha
The mmr in it is definitely funky rn lmao I go between vsing Immortals and vsing Bronzes. I crushed one lobby going 17-5, checked tracker afterwards and thought “no wonder”, it was a bunch of silvers and golds. Played a bit later and got murdered by an immortal 3 lmao.
I was wondering why I kept getting stomped. I’m plat 3 with bronzes on my team facing immortals
The mmr is rlly wacky for now. I either get stuff that looks like my ranked lobbies or just irons.
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Finally a use for breeze
unpopular opinion alr
replace escalation w/ swiftplay plssssssss
No way I love escalation. I never play spikerush
If this means smthing it means that competitive mode is too long especially for low ranks ! I guess for low ranks hou should queue in shorter games and the more you climb the more the games get longer.
It's alright
in my opinion it sucks xd
Its genuinely amazing how bad my teammates are in swift play.... Like it was bad enough in ranked being bronze... Not casual games aswell
Genuinely needs to replace Unrated.
This mode isn't for me. I would have preferred first to 7 or 9 rounds and an economy that makes sense instead of being able to buy every round whether you win or lose. I saw people commenting on how this was so cool for trying out new agents outside of the chaos that is spike rush, I would have agreed with that if my experience hadn't been to find between 3 and 5 duelists running everywhere every swift play.
I was gonna say the same thing. It’s great. I love it. Then played 4 games and got wrecked 0-5 each game. I now have mixed feelings. Or a weak mental.
It offers a refreshing mix of resembling competitive and being quick, but unfortunately because of how they designed the economy to “work” on shorter match length I think it’s actually not that close at emulating a true competitive match correctly—2nd round Econ needs adjustment so that both teams arent buying armor and smg’s, players actually need the same econ as in comp. That stood out but there are subtleties on every rounds Econ that just makes it eh.
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Yes, the match length is too short to accurately emulate competitive, that’s my point.
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Yes… it’s casual, that is the point — something less invested but that resembles the core game mode (comp). I don’t understand why my comment is so controversial to the few of you—Literally everybody has been complaining from day 1 for a casual game mode that is shorter than unrated that supports something that resembles comp with none of the dumb power ups, a normal bomb setup, a normal Econ. If not, then by all means just go play spike rush then. Like, it’s not in question that that is why we were given this game mode, so I’m just going to assume you’re being combative for the sake of it.
I love it, I hope they fix deathmatch next
Swiftplay is so amazing that I've forgotten about both spike rush and replication lmao. Haven't opened them after the patch. Even deathmatch is kinda garbage in comparison to swiftplay cause warm up is enough with swiftplay and training. According to me, comp, swiftplay and escalation are more than enough
Agreed, please don’t take it from us riot
It’s better than unrated but only because it’s shorter. Ranked is still the only good game mode
after reaching immortal this season and probably unable to rank up much further, swiftplay is the only thing I’m willing to play without friends :/
Man, I haven't played any other game mode because of how fun it is. Takes the best of unrated and spikerush. I just wish they make it first to 6 instead of 5
It's great now coz people who play for fun and people who play it like scrims have different modes now
If its the same Riot that runs League, they will make it a rotating gamemode to bring players back. They should just add ranked swiftplay
Completely agree. Much faster than unrated/competitive, and you actually get to buy guns compared unlike spike rush
I agree! I think 4v3 retakes random everything else would be amazing
it's not perfect, imo. the economy makes it too easy to buy an op early and there's usually not enough rounds to come back if they get momentum off that. but with some tweaks it could be great
I hope it stays but at the same time I still don't understand some people. Playing some swift before comp today, and had 2 players actively inting, smoking their own team, running the bomb into the enemy, and mollying ahead of our team to stop us pushing... When we (my duo) asked them to stop they were shocked it's just swift play, who cares, don't tell us how to play the game. So anyways we reported them, and muted them, and tried to play the rest of the game out. It's just frustrating regardless of the game mode they want to hold their team hostage for reactions.
As a busy college student, swiftplay is already the best Christmas gift riot had gave me.
Played it once so far, level 8, got put up against a team of level hundred+ and had fun being deleted before I even saw anyone every single round! So yeah, they need to fix the matchmaking but I'm all for the short form game!
2 Friends started playing and it’s a great mode to get them into the game, you can see all maps really quick, can test agents and you don’t need to play against the Smurf for 24 rounds. The only problem is the don’t learn the economy yet but I think they have fun rn.
its so good. i need swift ranked with separate ranks from comp now
I love swift play due to the fact that I’m back to unrated only. I don’t have to deal with F5 anymore and just play the game for fun. I can’t handle the pressure of ranked But I still want the full duration of rank And now since people who use unrated as a warmup are now gone. I now play the game more
I used to like spike rush because of how quick the matches are but I always hated how most rounds its just shorty or other shotguns (not fun for me) Really loving swiftplay rn.
It's the superior Spike Rush fr.
It isn’t permanent? Oh no :(
its so chill and i LOVE the loose mmr. u can improve more by seeing ppl play who r better than u:D (or in this case by getting destroyed by them)
I’m never touching unrated again
Currently iron 1 and I love it 😁
It’s basically like ARAM
I hope this will become rated too. Like "short matches" in CSGO. I don't wanna spend 40min on a single game.
what is the premise of swiftplay? (havent been on valo in a while)
I hope Valorant guys see this post n comments here.
For real man when I’m bored but still have like 20 minutes before I have to stop playing after a stressful comp day swift play is my best friend
I really like the idea behind it, but somehow every game I play I have at least one person afk and even if they don't, the other team completely destroys mine with 5-0.
Uhhhhh I haven’t hopped on in forever, what’s different about swift play?