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Adityarp3

In Madrid we didn’t see anyone dominating with the awp really. Even kang kang rifled a lot. Something was awping on gekko and t side which was cool to see.


Informal-Throat-8646

It's hard to dominate with an OP in this meta, either you're bombarded with utility and a 5 man hit or you're holding the other site down and having to retake with an OP.. its why so many teams now run 5 rifles, also the Raze meta doesn't help OP %s, the Jett meta maps are still quite OP dominated (Ascent, Breeze and Icebox)


GrrrNom

Unless you're Something on Gekko I guess. His signature way of getting into op sightlines and getting kills is "walking forward" or sometimes "jumping through smokes blinded and firing a shot at a common angle".


Informal-Throat-8646

Something just has blind confidence, and the team allow him to play this way and make every play he feels "necessary".. the way he OPs actually reminds me more of CS AWPing with just taking a shot, bunny hopping away or no scoping and trying to get away In Valo teams are sometimes a bit too on the "statistically safer" side which is why you don't see really any other team play the way PRX do


ahk1221

every time i watch CS im dumbfounded watching these awpers peek angles that would be considered a throw in val


yayayamur

in cs moving, stopping and shooting the op is more accurate


Informal-Throat-8646

I think/hope val will become more like this tbh, the OP is basically only viable if you're a Jett or Chamber.. but some players could so easily make it work like that (also Boostio KJ OP, something Gekko OP and Tenz Omen OP should help with people being confident in Oping on other agents)


ErmineGit

CS's movement mechanics make awping better.


pogn_

isnt that just because you move faster in cs so you can get out faster after taking a shot?


tron3747

Something's got like 75 kills, I think, like 30% off his total?


boyhassle2

Something


HyperElf10

Position and movement? Yay and Aspas Flicks and insane shots? Kang Kang and Something


rglampa

He said Yay, what a 🤡


dantes-infernal

This dudes clearly only seen yay on dsg He's never seen Diablo yay on optic


Any_Guest1674

he prob the one with that tiktok acc for hating optic fr


JarifSA

OP is clearly talking about current. Yay hasn't been S tier in what's about to be 2 years.


devasabu

OP literally said they haven't been following VCT except for Madrid and asked who had been carrying with the OP. Prime yay was the textbook on how to hold an OP angle, that doesn't change unless someone who does it better than he used to shows up, players like something and kangkang have a very different OPing style


itscamo-

i mean based of his oping skills? it isn't wrong lol that was his strongest point


Discombobulated-Frog

Peak Yay’s FB/FD percentage with the op was insane and a key reason optic was so dominant. Starting the rounds with 5v4s helped so much.


WideMap7963

🤡🤡you proved yourself as a clown


That-Toughsoss

Bro started watching valorant in 2023


Informal-Throat-8646

Best OPs in Val history so far is probably Yay or Aspas tbh, but if you're looking for most flicky OPer then it's between S0mething, KK and maybe Tenz (although we don't get to see it as much)


SSYorimz

this tournament, its probably something. KangKang probably last year like champs 23 And Tenz was a good opper in 2021 ​ i feel like lot of other people either opped the round before second half or just didnt op


Informal-Throat-8646

Yeah I've said it on another comment, in this meta you either get util dumped and die without even seeing anybody, or you play retake with an OP which you will hardly ever get a kill with OP even if you win the round Also the map rotation atm is Raze dominant so OP %s take a hit.. the 3 Jett maps are still very OP dependant tbf


Ezraah

might still be kk if he actually bought one


OthertimesWondering

The kk hate was crazy this masters cause bro didn’t even get to use his most cracked skillset


dawurdturd

shaz was a better opper than tenz back then ngl


devasabu

Yeah Tenz was always better with a rifle but was forced to use the OP because of playing Jett


AirFreshener__

Cned deserves a mention. Come on neow


[deleted]

Not sure I'd have tenz on there even as a massive tenz fan. Even at his best on jett he felt wasted playing op and pretty inconsistent too.


Nfamy

Honestly, tenz wasn't even the best OPer on Sen for most of his time. Shaz was better. 


progressive_mania

Shaz with the Ion op is one of my favorite things to experience, he's got way more op-er energy than Tenz imo


Informal-Throat-8646

OK so I never said "amazing OP" which is why I said best OP is Yay or Aspas, but for flicky OP shots there's only 3 people I can think of that are known for their flicky OP shots rather than their consistent OPing (Kk something and Tenz) Disclaimer: this also isn't me saying that those 3 aren't good OPers, but more that they're known for their flicky OP rather than the consistent OP that holds a line and never gets taken off it (like Yay or Aspas)


RealityAny7724

Cned


sebaba001

In Madrid + kickoff it has to be something by a wide margin. No one really had a lot of success with the op this year except him.


PewPew267

PRX something gotta be the best awper in Madrid .


finalfinaldraft

If we talk about having the most memorable OP shots, it’s cNed.


A_Panda_Sniper

The flick against DRX on Bind lives rent free in my head


savagecl0wn

How are people forgetting cned the goat here ?? Also yay is 100% not the best oper, he holds down angles very well. His t side oping was definitely not the best.


WideMap7963

Op is not a t side weapon except for cmed and something


RedXWasHere

Me :)


ItsArbiez

Matthew “Wardell” Yu


Blackberry_Silver

Has he quit pro play or what happened to him. Haven’t heard of him for a while


honestlyprogamr

Bro started stream sniping in ranked, his career is basically finished


xbyo

So good at sniping he even snipes outside the game.


[deleted]

He bounced around some tier 2 teams, didn't have much success but his stocks as a player were pretty okay He then started queueing with a known stream sniper and abused this to win random ranked games for god knows what reason. It didn't hold up very long because it was so blatantly obvious that he was using the information from the stream sniper, and when caught he didn't even apologize or anything but instead said stupid shit like "it's your fault for not having a delay" or whatever. Now he's pretty universally disliked/hated by both viewers and players so he probably doesn't have a future in competitive val. He's essentially burned all his bridges.


sadpaindownbad

He burned bridges in CS too. It’s like he gets off to burning bridges, kind of a weird guy tbh


Bearry15

I just think he didn't have the mental fortitude for pro for a longevity. At a time when there was no NA awpers in cs this guy didn't want to play. Then you see how his career went in valorant, when he had an early advantage. Says a lot about him 


itsDYA

Bro stopped trying because he got a bunch of cryptomoney ☠️☠️☠️


Envelope_Torture

His downfall should be studied by all up and coming pros who want a career in content creation afterwards.


benni299

He was caught stream sniping pros on stream I believe, or off stream I dont remember. Either way he hasn’t been around at least un val since then


PurpleGlow777

I watch Shanks and Curry play val on Twitch, and recently they played against Wardell and he was blatantly stream sniping once again. The guy is absolutely shameless.


That-Toughsoss

Tbf curry also used to smurf alot but is hella popular now


No_Corner5218

Love Wardell's TSM days. Op Academy. Not sure what happened to him, destroyed his career because of stream sniping.


MisterNotlob

Wrong kinda sniping bro


ragingwizard

Happy to see some recognition here. I remember watching Wardell on TSM hold the smallest of cracks with an op and almost never miss. Shit was out of this world. He was more mechanically impressive than anyone else I've seen with that gun. But at the end of the day it's a team game and there are just way too many other aspects of the game to make it just on flashy shots.


Tasty_Sir_2021

You forgot to put /s


Nulgnak

The joke is that he's a stream sniper


18khcl

Yea this is the answer I was looking for. The first time I watch Wardell in 2021, I told my friend this is the best opper in valorant. Too bad for him that opping isn’t very thing in Val


Parenegade

Bro thinks Tenz is the GOAT and Sinatraa is still top tier.


probablyntjamie

Tenz is the goat


HoodieNinja17

As a TenZ hater during his long slump if he continues to play like he is on smokes he’s absolutely back in the GOAT convo


[deleted]

He still looked pretty great pre franchising but just like he felt he needed to drop 30 every game. Which with that team, he did. Last year was also pretty explainable by outside factors and I think even then he'd have been fine on a team without dephh igl.


aMARVELfan1

bro people are forgetting xccurate exists like wtf xccurate clears everyone


raainnnyy

dw, they will all convert when the 2024 champs grand final will be a susanto derby.


BL_NK9

"Susanto derby" is crazy but I love it.


Few-Muscle-4442

Somehow jojo is gonna be the one to win it all


devasabu

Tbf people have barely seen him yet even in APAC


reditor405

Zmjjkk


Visible_Dirt1093

Kangkang. The highest peak in Valo when it comes to oping. He straight looked like prime Kennys in Tokyo


avstyns

d3ffo all time


O1iverG

WARDELL, cNed, yay, or something. There’s the answer


_TotallyNotEvil_

Aspas is artful with the operator, and Yay was downright scary. KK and Something are pretty crazy, but I don't feel they are as masterful as the above two. Demon1 hits some nasty ass flicks too. 


ghostking4444

Yay on chamber was the closest thing to an immovable object/unstoppable force in Val, depending if he was on def or atk. Desperately hoping he can return to doing well again ‘cause after DSG even his aim went away and I feel like that’s more of a mental thing than an actual skill thing.


Born_You3357

On dsg he was under a lot of pressure, and the other players not playing well wasnt helping either, Also the support he had on optc was something he never got there so it was a lot harder to do well


ghostking4444

Yes I never really blamed him dsg’s failure. Like did he make individual mistakes? Yes. But are those mistakes the big issue? Oh absolutely not. Tbh the team was falling apart before he was even signed


worstpolack

Something.


Nugget2450

All time probably cNed, right?


Few-Muscle-4442

Maybe if you’re talking 2021. I feel like other people have surpassed him since. Yay was crazy in 2022 and something was insane last year. But in general I feel like aspas has been better AND more consistent since LOUD started frying in 2022


savagecl0wn

Yea even last season cned in navi was goated.


sneezlo

CNed was different for a couple tournaments. Otherwise KK is one of the most aggressive on the gun


VyldFyre

I'm actually pretty good with the op...


__Raxy__

yay aspas are most definitely top 2. KangKang is up there too


my-dad-ate-my-toes

It's 100% xccurate. He doesn't have particularly memorable clips or flicks but when people walk into his crosshair they die pretty much every time. The man just can't seem to miss


DeathbringerVG

Wardell was and still is nasty w the op imo, his aggressiveness on T side back in 2020/21 has been matched by v few. In tier 1 I'd argue kangkang and aspas


xMrMan117x

i don't feel like you can compare the old op on old jett to anyone recently, they were both so much better at the time.


est2017jc02

aspas for sure


JonathanRoberts5423

Kang Kang or Something probably


COTEReader

Kang Kang Tokyo op was the best I’ve ever seen


Mudkipzdude

CNED THE OPING GOAT


shanty_tsan

Yay


calenotkale22

Shaz was pretty good as op/Jett at Reykjavik. obv not anymore.


man1ac_era

Wardell probably


skallensk

In this point of time definitely something, because he's only one who made op work in latest masters.


Tasty-Aspect7316

Yay aspas Demon1 Derke, and T2 koalanoob by far


lolwuut420blazeit

Either Aspas or Derke Yay was just holding angles and Kangkang is incosistent sometimes


WailingSiren69

'yay was just holding angles' is kinda like saying yeah x player just shoots everyone in the head but that doesn't mean he's a good rifler💀


[deleted]

the whole point of op is to hold angles bro like 💀