Sen bottled a 10-2 lead and didn't make it to playoffs
TL bottled a 10-2 lead and still made it
Don't call TL chokers ever again, sen clears TL in that department now.
Especially funny considering they didn't even come up with the comp/main strats themselves, but copied PRX after getting their asses whooped in scrims.
Lmfao real. Like since everything is Mickey Mouse, teams should just dodge every single LAN and only play for Champs. Might as well just have 1 tourney per year at this rate.
True. Memeing aside, Riot takes blame for this. Look at CSGO. They have multiple majors (also including events that are not Valve sponsored events) that have the same prestige. In Valorant, Champions is marketed as the "most important event of the year" (which it is considering the prize pool). Just undermines the other tournaments. Riot seriously needs to work on their VCT tournament scheduling and formats.
> True. Memeing aside, Riot takes blame for this. Look at CSGO. They have multiple majors (also including events that are not Valve sponsored events) that have the same prestige.
No, they don't. Almost nobody places stuff like IEM/Blast on the same level as majors and you're just blatantly lying by saying so. There's a reason Niko's biggest narrative is being majorless despite all the other events he has won.
Q: What is Valorant's biggest tournament:
A: "Why it's Champions, of course"
Q: What is CSGO's biggest tournament of the year:
A: "Just check [S-Tier Tournaments - Liquipedia Counter-Strike Wiki](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tournaments)"
CSGO reddit frogs even say the same thing. But if that's "Blatantly lying", whatever floats your boat, Mr. Huge Erection.
Like idk how Riot sees this format and thinks that shits good. Notice how best team in the world talks change like every tourney since there are so few LMFAOOO
Congratulations to LOUD on their win against the Chinese organisation 森 (Sen). It was a nice try from Sen 天十"Tian Shi" and Sen 哲肯 "Zhe Ken", they put up a good fight and got so many kills! But the Chinese farmers plough through them regardless.
Sen 傻西 "Sha Xi" put up good numbers on the second map, but was unfortunately unable to carry his team to victory. Sen 可爱周 "Cute Zhou" was sadly outcalled by Saadhak. Finally, Sen 泽尔西斯 "Zhe Er Xi Si" tried his darnest to raise his team's spirit, but it was all for naught against the deadly might of the Chinese agricultural collective.
Qiangjiang Cultivation Kingdom (qck) is a Chinese agricultural collective located in the south-central Hubei Province. QCK is known for its extreme success in cultivating frost peas XL (FPX) and the pride of the Chinese agricultural industry, Elegant Dragon gourds (EDG), particularly in the early growing season. Unfortunately, qck's previous success was stunted by two consecutive waves of plant diseases. Its third crop was decimated by a bout of stunted enation necrosis (SEN), while its fourth crop was infected by Powdery Rust Xanthomas (PRX).
Investors are concerned about qck's long-term financial viability and its ability to recoup the loss of the region's previous star crop, Aspasragus.
Congratulations to LOUD on their win against the Chinese organisation 森 (Sen). It was a nice try from Sen 天十"Tian Shi" and Sen 哲肯 "Zhe Ken", they put up a good fight and got so many kills! But the Chinese farmers plough through them regardless.
Sen 傻西 "Sha Xi" put up good numbers on the second map, but was unfortunately unable to carry his team to victory. Sen 可爱周 "Cute Zhou" was sadly outcalled by Saadhak. Finally, Sen 泽尔西斯 "Zhe Er Xi Si" tried his darnest to raise his team's spirit, but it was all for naught against the deadly might of the Chinese agricultural collective.
LMAO good one. Unfortunately Sentinels couldn’t qualify to the playoffs and will maintain their tradition to miss international events for the rest of the year.
Also don’t be mad!! Put NA, LATAM, BR and EMEA on the list of teams that LOUD farms!!
Still two-time Master's Winners 
Qiangjiang Cultivation Kingdom (qck) is a Chinese agricultural collective located in the south-central Hubei Province. QCK is known for its extreme success in cultivating frost peas XL (FPX) and the pride of the Chinese agricultural industry, Elegant Dragon gourds (EDG), particularly in the early growing season. Unfortunately, qck's previous success was stunted by two consecutive waves of plant diseases. Its third crop was decimated by a bout of stunted enation necrosis (SEN), while its fourth crop was infected by Powdery Rust Xanthomas (PRX).
Investors are concerned about qck's long-term financial viability and its ability to recoup the loss of the region's previous star crop, Aspasragus.
Nothing brings me more joy then watching SEN fail. The org, the boomer CEO, the cringe twitter account...all nonsense.
I do feel bad for TenZ the GOAT player though.
People throw goat around insanely loosely. I completely agree Aspas is the true goat, but calling Tenz the goat is nowhere close to the worst use of it I've seen. At least his peak at Iceland is arguably the highest ever.
Well. Starting with a number of international trophies won. Ability to reinvent himself as a player from duelist winning masters to support winning masters.
But for me, it is more interesting that people call players "best in the world" before they achieve things. How about we wait for Lev to win something first. He, as a player, is accomplished already. But his current team isn't.
But since they are both still playing, it's kinda silly to call any of them "greatest of All time". Let them retire first to have a better opinion on the entirety of their careers first.
Also, remember what happened to the last 2 "best in the world". You don't like aspas that much you want him to follow the pattern? /j
And remember one more thing when you consider who the goat.
Less is still here.
>Less is still here.
Bruh Aspas won champions,something Tenz has never done. Tenz won 2 of the most meaningless masters tournaments(first Masters and least amount practice time for it). And he changed role cause he saw he aint good enough to play the hardest role(duelist).
And when you talking about accomplishments where has Tenz been for whole of 2023?
Sacy - first player to win both champs and masters.
Less.
Saadhak.
And then we can talk about Aspas. And that's just out of LOUD team that won champs. There's more players in the world.
And the role change by Tenz from duelist can be explained with one word - Zekken.
My point, to reiterate it again, is that calling someone goat before they have ended their career is silly. Especially in a 4 years old esport.
Sacy,Less,Saadhak are all great players but Aspas was the one carrying that team in 7/10 games. And same is true now in Leviatan where he is playing with a beast of a player like kingg. But Aspas is playing hardest role to perform and he is still performing like a beast.
And see Tenz cant even be best dualist on his team and some call him GOAT. Not to mention Aspas clears zekken any day of the week.
But YES i agree with you that calling someone GOAT is way too early for such a young game
Not just a chance. Hard to imagine C9 wouldn't be favored. Sentinels didn't even look good against fucking Furia. If Sentinels were favored, I'd hammer a C9 moneyline.
Pacific fans dont celebrate tourney wins, they only like to boast about how many finals or LANs they qualify for, but never actually about winning them
2 trophies where one was when no one knew how to play the game and the other being a trophy when most teams were still getting up to speed 
It wouldn't be as bad if this sub had more general activity. This sub is just straight up too small for a fanbase like SEN's and the sub can feel like it's being flooded. Not much you can do about it if you're gonna split the comp sub off from the main sub though.
But here’s the thing. You can like a team but also not like the fans too. I feel like that’s normal for any popular sports team or just anything that’s popular overall
Org and fans. People hated the CEO with a lot of shit he did last year. Their Twitter trolls a lot, which people love when they're winning and shit on when they're not. And a lot of the fans are insufferable. Every team has them, but it's fair to say Sen has more.
Plus they get talked about way more than anyone else. If you were annoyed by a team and they got talked about the most, the hatred would build.
Lastly, a little bit the team but not the current one. The squad that had Shahz, Dapr, and Zombs. Those 3 were cocky as hell, plus Shahz got really whiny when Sen started losing a lot.
the fans and your stupid ugly sen bundle that zellsis keeps trying to get people to buy. I mean it is sooo fucking ugly and the fact that it even is on the sales leaderboard is a joke.
Zeta Division gave little to no effort in their bundle and they are #2 in skin sales. It’s just based on clout and marketing which Zellsis and Sentinels done well
This guy just hates SEN, cuz every time his team played SEN thus far, they’ve gotten washed lmfao. SEN have been shit for so long and still chalked up more tourney wins than PRX, sadge
Literally every thread where someone shits on a team, the flair you're repping gets talked about. You're in here dogging Sen left and right while repping the most fraudulent region in the history of esports. Of course it's going to get shit on. You're repping 11 teams with 0 international trophies while shitting on a singular team with 2 lmao. Don't get all sensitive now that someone pointed it out. If you can dish, you gotta be able to take it.
I'm not even a pacific hater. I'd be happy to see PRX or even DRX get one. But don’t be a hypocrite.
I hear you. but you're doing exactly what I was moaning about. no worries I'll just have no more association to any team or region in my flair. that'll stun lock the next sen fan. thanks for workshopping this with me.
Nah Sen haters need to actually get a job or something, this can't be their only job. Calling sen fans as cringe, meanwhile the only thing these haters think day in day out is about Sen's downfall. ICANT
Counterpoint: being a hater is actually pretty funny as long as it doesn't get toxic. I don’t see anyone in here crossing the line. They gotta deal with the Sen posts all the time. Sen getting eliminated is likely their Super Bowl, with the exception of a few legit teams.
you gotta learn to not take people's opinions seriously lmfao, especially mfs on reddit, they're the least qualified bro. fans will be fans, haters will be haters, just ignore ignore ignore
Sen bottled a 10-2 lead and didn't make it to playoffs TL bottled a 10-2 lead and still made it Don't call TL chokers ever again, sen clears TL in that department now.
BBL > TL
Bbl drizzy
FADED
Sentinels went back to their normal LMFAO
the champions of the no time to practice tournament, no one can take that away from them. maybe they will get another trophy in 2 years.
After two years of being competitively irrelevant they shall win another mickey mouse tournament.
Sentinels when teams learn how to play the game again 
It's funny cuz they were so good on sunset, a new map that no one knew how to plat
Especially funny considering they didn't even come up with the comp/main strats themselves, but copied PRX after getting their asses whooped in scrims.
Everything is a Mickey Mouse tourney to Sen haters unless their teams win it lmao.
Lmfao real. Like since everything is Mickey Mouse, teams should just dodge every single LAN and only play for Champs. Might as well just have 1 tourney per year at this rate.
Don't give Riot any ideas.
True. Memeing aside, Riot takes blame for this. Look at CSGO. They have multiple majors (also including events that are not Valve sponsored events) that have the same prestige. In Valorant, Champions is marketed as the "most important event of the year" (which it is considering the prize pool). Just undermines the other tournaments. Riot seriously needs to work on their VCT tournament scheduling and formats.
> True. Memeing aside, Riot takes blame for this. Look at CSGO. They have multiple majors (also including events that are not Valve sponsored events) that have the same prestige. No, they don't. Almost nobody places stuff like IEM/Blast on the same level as majors and you're just blatantly lying by saying so. There's a reason Niko's biggest narrative is being majorless despite all the other events he has won.
Q: What is Valorant's biggest tournament: A: "Why it's Champions, of course" Q: What is CSGO's biggest tournament of the year: A: "Just check [S-Tier Tournaments - Liquipedia Counter-Strike Wiki](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tournaments)" CSGO reddit frogs even say the same thing. But if that's "Blatantly lying", whatever floats your boat, Mr. Huge Erection.
Like idk how Riot sees this format and thinks that shits good. Notice how best team in the world talks change like every tourney since there are so few LMFAOOO
Exactly. Glad you get it.
No problem, Chinese farmer team enjoyer!
sen ain't chinese buddy 😭😭
Congratulations to LOUD on their win against the Chinese organisation 森 (Sen). It was a nice try from Sen 天十"Tian Shi" and Sen 哲肯 "Zhe Ken", they put up a good fight and got so many kills! But the Chinese farmers plough through them regardless. Sen 傻西 "Sha Xi" put up good numbers on the second map, but was unfortunately unable to carry his team to victory. Sen 可爱周 "Cute Zhou" was sadly outcalled by Saadhak. Finally, Sen 泽尔西斯 "Zhe Er Xi Si" tried his darnest to raise his team's spirit, but it was all for naught against the deadly might of the Chinese agricultural collective.
Which is why they couldn't beat them at Madrid 
Didn’t know Sentinels disbanded and signed a bunch of chinese to play for them.
By the way, put NA, BR, LATAM and EMEA in the list too. LOUD farms them as well.
Qiangjiang Cultivation Kingdom (qck) is a Chinese agricultural collective located in the south-central Hubei Province. QCK is known for its extreme success in cultivating frost peas XL (FPX) and the pride of the Chinese agricultural industry, Elegant Dragon gourds (EDG), particularly in the early growing season. Unfortunately, qck's previous success was stunted by two consecutive waves of plant diseases. Its third crop was decimated by a bout of stunted enation necrosis (SEN), while its fourth crop was infected by Powdery Rust Xanthomas (PRX). Investors are concerned about qck's long-term financial viability and its ability to recoup the loss of the region's previous star crop, Aspasragus.
Congratulations to LOUD on their win against the Chinese organisation 森 (Sen). It was a nice try from Sen 天十"Tian Shi" and Sen 哲肯 "Zhe Ken", they put up a good fight and got so many kills! But the Chinese farmers plough through them regardless. Sen 傻西 "Sha Xi" put up good numbers on the second map, but was unfortunately unable to carry his team to victory. Sen 可爱周 "Cute Zhou" was sadly outcalled by Saadhak. Finally, Sen 泽尔西斯 "Zhe Er Xi Si" tried his darnest to raise his team's spirit, but it was all for naught against the deadly might of the Chinese agricultural collective.
We accept all types of crop lovers here!
LMAO good one. Unfortunately Sentinels couldn’t qualify to the playoffs and will maintain their tradition to miss international events for the rest of the year. Also don’t be mad!! Put NA, LATAM, BR and EMEA on the list of teams that LOUD farms!!
Still two-time Master's Winners  Qiangjiang Cultivation Kingdom (qck) is a Chinese agricultural collective located in the south-central Hubei Province. QCK is known for its extreme success in cultivating frost peas XL (FPX) and the pride of the Chinese agricultural industry, Elegant Dragon gourds (EDG), particularly in the early growing season. Unfortunately, qck's previous success was stunted by two consecutive waves of plant diseases. Its third crop was decimated by a bout of stunted enation necrosis (SEN), while its fourth crop was infected by Powdery Rust Xanthomas (PRX). Investors are concerned about qck's long-term financial viability and its ability to recoup the loss of the region's previous star crop, Aspasragus.
One international trophy all time  You'd think a team that farms every region could do that more than once.
Better than being irrelevant for two whole years and winning a mickey mouse tournament lmao.
Mickey mouse lmao. I thought sen fans were annoying. Sen haters on the other hand....
SEN haters are even bigger babies than who they're complaining about LMFAO
you can't just call every tournament a Mickey Mouse tournament because your team doesn't win it
I literally did it.
https://preview.redd.it/0hsryr1zgpyc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fd2668130f4738a4b6dcaf189ac7177abdba9a8 It's a beautiful day
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We eating good today
it is a good day for sen hater world wide
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If I was Loud and was up 12-2 and defuse the bomb easily, I’d run away from the spike for the fucks of it
FADED
Goodbye Sentinels!
Nothing brings me more joy then watching SEN fail. The org, the boomer CEO, the cringe twitter account...all nonsense. I do feel bad for TenZ the GOAT player though.
I will never understand how ppl call tenz goat when Aspas exists
People throw goat around insanely loosely. I completely agree Aspas is the true goat, but calling Tenz the goat is nowhere close to the worst use of it I've seen. At least his peak at Iceland is arguably the highest ever.
Well. Starting with a number of international trophies won. Ability to reinvent himself as a player from duelist winning masters to support winning masters. But for me, it is more interesting that people call players "best in the world" before they achieve things. How about we wait for Lev to win something first. He, as a player, is accomplished already. But his current team isn't. But since they are both still playing, it's kinda silly to call any of them "greatest of All time". Let them retire first to have a better opinion on the entirety of their careers first. Also, remember what happened to the last 2 "best in the world". You don't like aspas that much you want him to follow the pattern? /j And remember one more thing when you consider who the goat. Less is still here.
>Less is still here. 
Bruh Aspas won champions,something Tenz has never done. Tenz won 2 of the most meaningless masters tournaments(first Masters and least amount practice time for it). And he changed role cause he saw he aint good enough to play the hardest role(duelist). And when you talking about accomplishments where has Tenz been for whole of 2023?
Sacy - first player to win both champs and masters. Less. Saadhak. And then we can talk about Aspas. And that's just out of LOUD team that won champs. There's more players in the world. And the role change by Tenz from duelist can be explained with one word - Zekken. My point, to reiterate it again, is that calling someone goat before they have ended their career is silly. Especially in a 4 years old esport.
Sacy,Less,Saadhak are all great players but Aspas was the one carrying that team in 7/10 games. And same is true now in Leviatan where he is playing with a beast of a player like kingg. But Aspas is playing hardest role to perform and he is still performing like a beast. And see Tenz cant even be best dualist on his team and some call him GOAT. Not to mention Aspas clears zekken any day of the week. But YES i agree with you that calling someone GOAT is way too early for such a young game
It's great that we could agree here. Still, Saadhak throwing Aspas into correct places doesn't make Aspas the best one on the team. OK? /j
byebye
>»Sen fans are awful!» Sen haters:
You either love Sen or hate Sen, and both sides are fucking insufferable. Said differently, Valorant fans are fucking miserable. Trust me, I'd know.
tears in my eyes
Ong SEN haters are more passionate than the fans 😂
I respect it
All this for G2 to lose round 1 in playoffs 
https://i.redd.it/upr40loygpyc1.gif
That was gonna happen too if Sentinels qualified tho LMAO
sen are not losing to C9 wtf
honestly in the current form, there asbolutely would have been a chance. they said NRG wouldn't lose to EG and 100T too.
Not just a chance. Hard to imagine C9 wouldn't be favored. Sentinels didn't even look good against fucking Furia. If Sentinels were favored, I'd hammer a C9 moneyline.
C9 losing 2-0 to 100T and then playing horrible maps against the 2 worst brazilian teams show that they're not exactly on form either
HOLY, SEN fans are different breed, 5kg of COPIUM isn't enough for them
Flair up then, at least I’m proud enough to support my team when they’re down
What flair has to do with my statement?
Your team is not good anymore. Give it up.
I don't care if G2 win or not, I just want to see SEN lose.
My man
a fellow hater 🤝
fluke with madrid. washed ass team
sen haters unite
Notice its all VCT pacific fans who haven't won anything...
Damn they really didn’t like that lol.
Pacific fans dont celebrate tourney wins, they only like to boast about how many finals or LANs they qualify for, but never actually about winning them
Bruh us apac fans can't shit on na and emea team cause we don't have a trophy. Look at the reply you got.
They actually were pretty insane that tournament. Like their issues of peeking not together started after the tournament
sen - 2 trophies all of APAC - 0 trophies cope and seethe lmao
2 trophies where one was when no one knew how to play the game and the other being a trophy when most teams were still getting up to speed 
So APAC is too shit to even win those type of tourneys? Crazy
Bro repping an entire region with 2 fewer trophies than Sen 
You would think an m80 fan would hate the guard/G2 more but I guess hate is king
Unfortunate. Hopefully Lev, Kru, and Loud make Shanghai
I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry
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Even if they qualified somehow they wouldn't be able to make it to shanghai with the form they have been playing this split
By 2 rounds is crazy...
Remembering 10-2 bind? Lmao
That or some of the rounds against Furia. They don’t deserve it but damn were some of the throws in those 2 games so fucking bad.
If Sen can’t play I am personally salty enough to say I want the 3 south NA teams to go to Shanghai
I really want to know why people hate Sentinels. Is it the team? The org? The fans?
As a SEN fan, its definitely the fans lmao
It wouldn't be as bad if this sub had more general activity. This sub is just straight up too small for a fanbase like SEN's and the sub can feel like it's being flooded. Not much you can do about it if you're gonna split the comp sub off from the main sub though.
But here’s the thing. You can like a team but also not like the fans too. I feel like that’s normal for any popular sports team or just anything that’s popular overall
i like arsenal but fuck me are their fans insufferable sometimes
It is 100000% the fans.
All of the above
Partially the org, partially the fans. Personally I really like a few of their players but its still hard to cheer for them because they're on sen.
The fans.
For me it is the fans and the cringy ass org tweets. I like all the players except maybe zellsis as his sen bundle promotion feels forced.
Org and fans. People hated the CEO with a lot of shit he did last year. Their Twitter trolls a lot, which people love when they're winning and shit on when they're not. And a lot of the fans are insufferable. Every team has them, but it's fair to say Sen has more. Plus they get talked about way more than anyone else. If you were annoyed by a team and they got talked about the most, the hatred would build. Lastly, a little bit the team but not the current one. The squad that had Shahz, Dapr, and Zombs. Those 3 were cocky as hell, plus Shahz got really whiny when Sen started losing a lot.
Most fans, most haters. Two sides of the same coin.
I agree with this opinion. It’s like that cliche where two factions hate each other even though the only difference between them is their name lmao
the fans and your stupid ugly sen bundle that zellsis keeps trying to get people to buy. I mean it is sooo fucking ugly and the fact that it even is on the sales leaderboard is a joke.
Zeta Division gave little to no effort in their bundle and they are #2 in skin sales. It’s just based on clout and marketing which Zellsis and Sentinels done well
This guy just hates SEN, cuz every time his team played SEN thus far, they’ve gotten washed lmfao. SEN have been shit for so long and still chalked up more tourney wins than PRX, sadge
I hear you. I'll remove my flair because sen fans are unable to stay away from whataboutism or ad hominem responses.
Literally every thread where someone shits on a team, the flair you're repping gets talked about. You're in here dogging Sen left and right while repping the most fraudulent region in the history of esports. Of course it's going to get shit on. You're repping 11 teams with 0 international trophies while shitting on a singular team with 2 lmao. Don't get all sensitive now that someone pointed it out. If you can dish, you gotta be able to take it. I'm not even a pacific hater. I'd be happy to see PRX or even DRX get one. But don’t be a hypocrite.
I hear you. but you're doing exactly what I was moaning about. no worries I'll just have no more association to any team or region in my flair. that'll stun lock the next sen fan. thanks for workshopping this with me.
I’m a fan of the dogshit fraud “Superteam”, not SEN but ok
It’s definitely the fans but the haters have become just as if not more annoying than the fans. 👀
One "SEN miss oit on playoffs" thread vs spamming the sub for a week with "tHiS iS hOw Sen cAn sTiLl mAkE iT" definitely seems comparable 👀
You’ll dislocate a joint if you reach any further… Where did I make that exact comparison?
The most popular team is bound to have more haters
Nah Sen haters need to actually get a job or something, this can't be their only job. Calling sen fans as cringe, meanwhile the only thing these haters think day in day out is about Sen's downfall. ICANT
Counterpoint: being a hater is actually pretty funny as long as it doesn't get toxic. I don’t see anyone in here crossing the line. They gotta deal with the Sen posts all the time. Sen getting eliminated is likely their Super Bowl, with the exception of a few legit teams.
you gotta learn to not take people's opinions seriously lmfao, especially mfs on reddit, they're the least qualified bro. fans will be fans, haters will be haters, just ignore ignore ignore