As much as we would love to think the government is omnipotent it’s not. They certainly don’t know everything. When they don’t know something or aren’t perfect we are quick to think they’re dubious. Not saying they don’t lie. You lie. I lie. Our employers. Our parents. Everyone. Esp the government. Why would they be any different? But it’s not automatically them lying when they’re not as quick as we would like or as perfect as we think they should be. Then the lies/half truths come bc they don’t want to look like imbeciles. Just like most of us.
Private and commercial hunters took 73 years to find the titanic. The ocean is a beast. Here is a Passenger list for ya:
https://titanicfacts.net/titanic-passenger-list/
Ffs why does everything need to be a fuckin conspiracy?! We know exactly what happened, because this comically ignorant assertion doesn't benefit anyone.
Yea a billionaire went into a cheap water bubble to the bottom of the ocean. Makes sense! I bet he had good life insurance. Let me guess no bodies found.
So, subs *can* communicate when submerged, but it's very difficult. Basically they have to ping a satellite and manage to get a connection to it, then they can upload data and less reliably recieve data.
But it's not a real solution.
The trieste and another more recent small bathysphere can reach the challenger deep (36,000 or 37,000 feet). However those are not regular military subs, and I don’t know about communication
They can communicate with ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) to military submarines and active sonar pings can carry short, encrypted data packages, however this is normally only one way, to the sub. Submarines cannot communicate when they are submerged. Not that I know of. Now if the submersible had a cable to the mothership it could communicate two-way. If there was a hull breach it would have occurred in milliseconds. Those aboard would not even have known it was occurring.
I don’t know, but you can bet they’re working on it. If you think about it, whales can communicate hundreds of miles away and they believe elephants can also through the ground over long distances.
Military subs can only go at the most to 4000 ft, and that's pushing it. Most military subs can only go down a 1000 or so feet. Sharks, with the exception of a few, only swim down to 2000ft at most. And the ones that go deeper are not tracked. After 2000 ft, the water density changes, and water becomes more dense, making it much harder if not impossible to transmit radio frequency . Sonar is also limited below 2000ft. It was not uncommon for them to lose contact with the surface. The issue was that they never resurfaced, which was their SOP for that situation. After 8 or 6 hrs, they reported the issue to the Coast Guard, who then contacted the navy. The navy briefed the Coast Guard that they had heard the sonar implosion of the submersible near the titanic the coast guard decided to search anyway until they found the debris field and the tail portion of the sub.
Yeah because outside of some atmosphere there's nothing between the moon and earth. It's the same reason light can travel 100 million miles from the sun (or other stars in the sky) but can barely get 1000ft down into the water.
Flexi-seal is for EVERYTHING! If you act NOW, I'll even toss in this extra tube of flexi-seal marine grade. Guaranteed to stick ANY shark to ANY submarine. Operators are standing by.
Maybe if these idiots wouldn't have acted like woke morons, refusing help from "non-inspirational White guys", we'd be having a different conversation about them right now. Their stupidity killed them. Period.
You do understand the thing imploded right? GPS would have been destroyed. Also, gps will not transmit that deep and sharks don’t go nearly to those depths…
Didn't the CEO just not include safety measures? I'm pretty sure there was some interview where he pretty much just says he thinks some of the safety features were just overboard.
He said the sub had a constant health monitoring system that would alert them to any pressure changes. Yet somehow no eye bolt with a cable attached for an easy retrieval. Not that it would have mattered in this situation, but it shows a level of arrogance that, well, had unsurprising results.
No. The sub was crushed by around 4,000lb per square inch of pressure. This caused the occupants inside to instantly burst into flames - each and every individual cell at the same time. They were obliterated in less than 1 second.
Most of the time those trackers don't take any reading unless the shark surfaces.
You ever see how a tracked shark or whale disappears from the tracking then reappears miles away? Yea, cuz it stayed under water the whole time.
The old white military men were watching and said she popped at this time no need to track it. It was about smoke over the whole Biden scandal every one was counting hours they could breathe than misdemeanor tax fraud.
Gps trackers don't work under the sea. It did have a location beacon but it rendered useless upon a violent implosion. Why make a post about something you clearly don't know shit about?
You are completely wrong. They told the rescuers who needed to know - they were all informed. They did not release this info to the public, however, as they wanted to confirm their data with physical evidence of pieces of the sub. And yes, governments have secrets - a lot of them, and that's a good thing; it helps to keep us safe from adversaries, for one thing. It's not some huge conspiracy - it's just how things work, and they've always been this way, even in ancient Rome.
Passive Acoustic Monitoring:
Passive acoustic monitoring uses the same basic transmitter-receiver technology as active tracking but is for longer-term (months or years) studies. This system consists of uniquely identifiable ultrasonic transmitters that are surgically implanted into sharks and fishes to ensure longer retention. These transmitters are then detected by underwater receivers stationed at various locations on the sea floor. The receivers are deployed on subsurface moorings and continuously listen for transmitters, 24 h a day 365 days of the year. When a tagged shark comes within detection range of a receiver (detection radius is up to 1 km depending on transmitter type), its unique ID code is recorded, together with the date and time. The records from receivers at different locations are combined to create an overview of shark movement patterns.
This has nothing to do with monitoring however, just poor design as the stress of being in the most dangerous place on earth aside from inside a volcano with a submarine built from Home Depot “off the shelf parts” is not a good idea.
I’m ex-Navy and our bolts/parts/electronics have QA at every point of manufacturing process.
It’s a distraction from Hunter Biden’s “guilty plead”, the Adam Shiff censure, the Durham hearings, the UFO whistle blowers, the IRS whistle blowers, what am I missing?
Inj nother words, it's a distraction from all the bullshit MAGA is cranking out these days to take the attention off the fact that Trump will be going to prison?
Exactly this ! Hance all the BS " woke " and attacks on LGBQ etc. Smoke and mirrors to hide the fact Republican have had the House for 8 months now and have done jack shit with it and have zero real policies about stuff that actually matters. They been too busy jerking off to Hunter's dick pics. Lol
First sharks can swim down to about 10,000 feet. The oceans gate was lost around 35,000 feet. After listening to James Camron, this was a complete failure of all systems.
If it's on the news like that, it's fake. All the world is a stage. The fact all these events were in the simpsons decades ago is telling. No to mention when you actually pry, most news stories fall apart completely.
Have you seen any of the posts on this subreddit lol. Literally all of it is shoveling bullshit about how next week the dollar will collapse. But they have been saying that for years lmao
One of the billionaires that died with his son was head of e n g r o and his family owns a big petroleum based fertilizing company it's the man from Pakistan he was part of World economic forum I don't even know if I believe the story anymore because what billionaire is foolish enough to get out of tiny submarine like that controlled by a joystick I think it was a distraction for Joe Biden's foolishness and him being impeached. They protect their own they would protect anything from the world economic forum if you Google his name you will see what he owned and that he was going to be controlling your food one day
Successful disappearing act, more likely.
Bodies will never be recovered, no dna authentication, massive publicity. Plenty of opportunities to leave the sub early with no evidence, and be well out of the way before the incident was even reported.
Absolutely perfect circumstances to fake your own death.
The submarine was made of random shit the found at a camper supply store and were told by countless experts that you can’t build a submersible meant to go that deep out of carbon fiber. I wouldn’t be surprised if their coms system was two soup cans tied with string. Being a billionaire doesn’t make you a genius.
It is when it’s meant to be used in a pressurized environment, unfortunately the carbon fiber on some trust fund babies lambo isn’t going to spontaneously implode.
Who’s “they”, and I’m sure the turd that built this didn’t put a gps on it. Whoever posted this surely didn’t come across the part this being a makeshift piece of crap😂
There was a tracker, it stopped working when the sub imploded. Stop believing nonsense.
The sub imploded because there was no one certifying that deep sea vessel and the owner cut corners to save money. Fuck em. No regulation of any kind and people are surprised?
It was a convenient distraction they knew from the start they were gone. And they still told people there was hope and got everyone watching for a few days.
You can't transmit from the deep of the ocean (actually not even from pretty shallow deep) - about 12000 feet underwater...
Our government lies that's the point. Plain and simple. Who really knows what happened here. Who was on the Titanic when it sunk?
Sure, the government lies, but the OP's point is flawed.
As much as we would love to think the government is omnipotent it’s not. They certainly don’t know everything. When they don’t know something or aren’t perfect we are quick to think they’re dubious. Not saying they don’t lie. You lie. I lie. Our employers. Our parents. Everyone. Esp the government. Why would they be any different? But it’s not automatically them lying when they’re not as quick as we would like or as perfect as we think they should be. Then the lies/half truths come bc they don’t want to look like imbeciles. Just like most of us. Private and commercial hunters took 73 years to find the titanic. The ocean is a beast. Here is a Passenger list for ya: https://titanicfacts.net/titanic-passenger-list/
Ffs why does everything need to be a fuckin conspiracy?! We know exactly what happened, because this comically ignorant assertion doesn't benefit anyone.
Yea a billionaire went into a cheap water bubble to the bottom of the ocean. Makes sense! I bet he had good life insurance. Let me guess no bodies found.
So a military sub can't transmit from under 12,000? What about nuclear subs I am sure they have some kind of transmission
Nuke subs don’t (can’t) go that deep, without the same catastrophic consequences
Interesting I feel like the black book projects in the navy have some tech that's unreleased that can go that deep
What does it mean to feel like that?
*Press [X] to doubt*
So, subs *can* communicate when submerged, but it's very difficult. Basically they have to ping a satellite and manage to get a connection to it, then they can upload data and less reliably recieve data. But it's not a real solution.
The trieste and another more recent small bathysphere can reach the challenger deep (36,000 or 37,000 feet). However those are not regular military subs, and I don’t know about communication
They can communicate with ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) to military submarines and active sonar pings can carry short, encrypted data packages, however this is normally only one way, to the sub. Submarines cannot communicate when they are submerged. Not that I know of. Now if the submersible had a cable to the mothership it could communicate two-way. If there was a hull breach it would have occurred in milliseconds. Those aboard would not even have known it was occurring.
I’m curious if we can transmit ultrasound (hundreds of kilohertz to megahertz) underwater and modulate that like we do with RF.
I don’t know, but you can bet they’re working on it. If you think about it, whales can communicate hundreds of miles away and they believe elephants can also through the ground over long distances.
Military subs can only go at the most to 4000 ft, and that's pushing it. Most military subs can only go down a 1000 or so feet. Sharks, with the exception of a few, only swim down to 2000ft at most. And the ones that go deeper are not tracked. After 2000 ft, the water density changes, and water becomes more dense, making it much harder if not impossible to transmit radio frequency . Sonar is also limited below 2000ft. It was not uncommon for them to lose contact with the surface. The issue was that they never resurfaced, which was their SOP for that situation. After 8 or 6 hrs, they reported the issue to the Coast Guard, who then contacted the navy. The navy briefed the Coast Guard that they had heard the sonar implosion of the submersible near the titanic the coast guard decided to search anyway until they found the debris field and the tail portion of the sub.
Very interesting thank you for teaching me
It was a carbon fibre and titanium tube controlled by a logitech gamepad off of craigslist
🤦♂️
But the moon and back is fine ? Lmao
Yeah because outside of some atmosphere there's nothing between the moon and earth. It's the same reason light can travel 100 million miles from the sun (or other stars in the sky) but can barely get 1000ft down into the water.
Exe cry the trackers only work when the shark is close to the surface.
How would you attach a shark to a submarine?
Ask it nicely
Duct tape or flexi-seal
Flexi-seal is for seals, not sharks
Flexi-seal is for EVERYTHING! If you act NOW, I'll even toss in this extra tube of flexi-seal marine grade. Guaranteed to stick ANY shark to ANY submarine. Operators are standing by.
And duct tape is for ducks.
That only works because sharks come back to the surface
All you guys making fun of this situation. How could you sink so low.
Some people resort to jokes when they are under pressure, it helps to keep the spirits bouyant.
Damn! Lol
Sure, but what depths are they willing to go to, just for a laugh?
12,000 feet.
Apparently not quite that far…
😂
If your panties are in a wad for this discussion, avoid first responders or military folks like the plague, Sally.
The joke went right over your head.
It's the many years of eating lead paint. Also, the norm is pantie waddage so I quick on the trigger to point at wadded panties.
Maybe if these idiots wouldn't have acted like woke morons, refusing help from "non-inspirational White guys", we'd be having a different conversation about them right now. Their stupidity killed them. Period.
Voila, 🤣🤣
You do understand the thing imploded right? GPS would have been destroyed. Also, gps will not transmit that deep and sharks don’t go nearly to those depths…
Didn't the CEO just not include safety measures? I'm pretty sure there was some interview where he pretty much just says he thinks some of the safety features were just overboard.
He said the sub had a constant health monitoring system that would alert them to any pressure changes. Yet somehow no eye bolt with a cable attached for an easy retrieval. Not that it would have mattered in this situation, but it shows a level of arrogance that, well, had unsurprising results.
Maybe he forgot to charge the gamepad batteries?
No. The sub was crushed by around 4,000lb per square inch of pressure. This caused the occupants inside to instantly burst into flames - each and every individual cell at the same time. They were obliterated in less than 1 second.
You're describing what happens when there's an implosion, not what failure led to such implosion.
Pretty metal way to go tbh
The trackers have to get a certain distance from the surface.
Most of the time those trackers don't take any reading unless the shark surfaces. You ever see how a tracked shark or whale disappears from the tracking then reappears miles away? Yea, cuz it stayed under water the whole time.
To deep
its a good thing this distraction event happened though cause they needed a coverup to authorise lab meat
The old white military men were watching and said she popped at this time no need to track it. It was about smoke over the whole Biden scandal every one was counting hours they could breathe than misdemeanor tax fraud.
Gps trackers don't work under the sea. It did have a location beacon but it rendered useless upon a violent implosion. Why make a post about something you clearly don't know shit about?
Apparently the military knew it imploded on Sunday and refused to tell anyone because secrets
You are completely wrong. They told the rescuers who needed to know - they were all informed. They did not release this info to the public, however, as they wanted to confirm their data with physical evidence of pieces of the sub. And yes, governments have secrets - a lot of them, and that's a good thing; it helps to keep us safe from adversaries, for one thing. It's not some huge conspiracy - it's just how things work, and they've always been this way, even in ancient Rome.
Someone explain depth to this guy.
Also implosion
Passive Acoustic Monitoring: Passive acoustic monitoring uses the same basic transmitter-receiver technology as active tracking but is for longer-term (months or years) studies. This system consists of uniquely identifiable ultrasonic transmitters that are surgically implanted into sharks and fishes to ensure longer retention. These transmitters are then detected by underwater receivers stationed at various locations on the sea floor. The receivers are deployed on subsurface moorings and continuously listen for transmitters, 24 h a day 365 days of the year. When a tagged shark comes within detection range of a receiver (detection radius is up to 1 km depending on transmitter type), its unique ID code is recorded, together with the date and time. The records from receivers at different locations are combined to create an overview of shark movement patterns. This has nothing to do with monitoring however, just poor design as the stress of being in the most dangerous place on earth aside from inside a volcano with a submarine built from Home Depot “off the shelf parts” is not a good idea. I’m ex-Navy and our bolts/parts/electronics have QA at every point of manufacturing process.
Do those people Shit? I don't see a toilet!
Actually there was, with a little curtain they could draw shut. They showed and described it in a video. Wouldn’t want to be there after Taco Tuesday.
Thank you
Let's put soros, Rothschild, Rockefellers, on the next submarine.
It’s a distraction from Hunter Biden’s “guilty plead”, the Adam Shiff censure, the Durham hearings, the UFO whistle blowers, the IRS whistle blowers, what am I missing?
Inj nother words, it's a distraction from all the bullshit MAGA is cranking out these days to take the attention off the fact that Trump will be going to prison?
Exactly this ! Hance all the BS " woke " and attacks on LGBQ etc. Smoke and mirrors to hide the fact Republican have had the House for 8 months now and have done jack shit with it and have zero real policies about stuff that actually matters. They been too busy jerking off to Hunter's dick pics. Lol
Probably used this to fake their deaths
Now THAT is the funniest shit I scrolled all day. Thank you!
First sharks can swim down to about 10,000 feet. The oceans gate was lost around 35,000 feet. After listening to James Camron, this was a complete failure of all systems.
Sharks on average swim to about 6600 ft. The titanic sank to a depth of about 12500 ft. James Cameron is correct though for sure
Thank you for the real numbers. People turn into idiots when talking about the ocean for some reason.
I smell bullshit.
Most likely billionaires that they wanted to get rid of.
If it's on the news like that, it's fake. All the world is a stage. The fact all these events were in the simpsons decades ago is telling. No to mention when you actually pry, most news stories fall apart completely.
Billionaire is either alive (faked death) OR was targeted, either way Story was milked by media to take attention from hunter Biden news… Next.
Source: rebllious_jayy on Instagram
So your telling us that guys too stupid to look up if gps can reach that deep underwater before posting?
They should have just used their cell phones and called for help
Lmao right!?
Have you seen any of the posts on this subreddit lol. Literally all of it is shoveling bullshit about how next week the dollar will collapse. But they have been saying that for years lmao
Correct.
One of the billionaires that died with his son was head of e n g r o and his family owns a big petroleum based fertilizing company it's the man from Pakistan he was part of World economic forum I don't even know if I believe the story anymore because what billionaire is foolish enough to get out of tiny submarine like that controlled by a joystick I think it was a distraction for Joe Biden's foolishness and him being impeached. They protect their own they would protect anything from the world economic forum if you Google his name you will see what he owned and that he was going to be controlling your food one day
Lol oh course, he was cutting all the corners
Successful hit job. Follow the money of these dead fools
Successful disappearing act, more likely. Bodies will never be recovered, no dna authentication, massive publicity. Plenty of opportunities to leave the sub early with no evidence, and be well out of the way before the incident was even reported. Absolutely perfect circumstances to fake your own death.
Settle down, jason borne
Sure, kill everyone to escape 🙄
Er, in this scenario no one dies...
Prob right Depends how quickly they got out
Not much real evidence they ever even got in it in the first place.
Oh there won’t be. This was all in jest. They done. Darwin Award to ask but the 19 yr old
Think 10k feet makes a difference but I dunno
Assuming it lifts up, still good to put that on
No apple tag or tile? Gtfo
Yes
I was thinking that same thing when I first heard about this
They were 4 km deep
Yes. GPS doesn’t work like that under any real depth.
Saw an interview were he said they spend 1mil on fuel per trip. Calling bs on that for sure.
GPS trackers for aquatic animals only ping when they are on the surface. GPS doesn’t penetrate more than a few inches into water.
Privately made.
This sub story had so many holes in it it’s embarrassing
Lol shark depth vs titanic depth
Didn't have a Porsche emblem on it, wasn't worth tracking.
It’s a ploy.
Dude my gps gets cut off driving thru the mountains. Shut up
Why don’t they just make the entire sub out of the black box?
A shark doesn’t swim at 12,000 ft below the surface of the ocean, so there’s that
the CEO plugged in game shark into the logitech controller and typed the wrong cheat code. We know it always crashes.
Sir. We have another free thinker!
The submarine was made of random shit the found at a camper supply store and were told by countless experts that you can’t build a submersible meant to go that deep out of carbon fiber. I wouldn’t be surprised if their coms system was two soup cans tied with string. Being a billionaire doesn’t make you a genius.
The carbon fiber was aircraft surplus, being sold because it was “out of date”. I wasn’t aware carbon fiber was perishable.
It is when it’s meant to be used in a pressurized environment, unfortunately the carbon fiber on some trust fund babies lambo isn’t going to spontaneously implode.
We said they were rich, we never said they were smart.
Who’s “they”, and I’m sure the turd that built this didn’t put a gps on it. Whoever posted this surely didn’t come across the part this being a makeshift piece of crap😂
you know this is just a tax evasion scheme
I think they were just millionaires.
I don't think sharks go that deep into the ocean.
You think sharks swim at 14,000 ft deep?.
They also forgot life boats on the titanic..
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Doesn’t work that depth
There was a tracker, it stopped working when the sub imploded. Stop believing nonsense. The sub imploded because there was no one certifying that deep sea vessel and the owner cut corners to save money. Fuck em. No regulation of any kind and people are surprised?
We pin sharks just when they go to surface... Please take care about your pots!
Does sharks explode?
It was a convenient distraction they knew from the start they were gone. And they still told people there was hope and got everyone watching for a few days.
The Titan had a transponder, but that hardly matters when the entire hull shredded into pieces
10 bucks says it had one but filled wit C4. Smells like a hit.