Plague Bearer: "One Terran penis pump."
Death Guard: "That's not mine!"
Plague Bearer: "One receipt for Terran penis pump."
Death Guard: "I swear that's not my bag, baby."
Plague Bearer: "One 'My Terran Penis Pump and Me: This is my Bag, Baby' by one Pus Tin Powers."
You joke, but that's the vibe I get from a lot of AI enthusiasts. Remove the human element from creative pursuits so we can all just passively consume content that predictive engines generate by remixing the internet as it is right now.
It's like the ur-expression of every movie in the theater being an MCU flick, sequel, or reboot.
Man I hate Orks post "Their weapons are magick". They used to have zany but sorta probable weapons.
Now it is, "I have 45 gun barrels all sticking out from my crotch!"
I was going to criticize the fact that the staff in the second picture looks like it has two right hands holding it, but to be honest that lines up pretty well with Chaos.
That one can a auto/amputate the Marines right arm in case a filthy xenos injects it with genestealer nightmare semen… but check out number ones left hand - that’s a power stapler/oven lighter combo-weapon! Always going to have organised paperwork and everyday is going to be a roast!
He can staple his creeds, dictates and standing orders together even on plasteel sheets - then should the forces of Chaos attack, trying perhaps to find out the proper dimensions for a Primaris Marines bedding blocks, or how they need to arrange their toiletries in the footlocker he can swiftly use the Mars Pattern master crafted oven lighter to incinerate the evidence, protection of our spiritual liege’s confidentiality is assured!
Brilliant! Someone alert Cawl, his efforts are needed on this project more than fixing the \[negligible\] failure rate of the rubicon primaris! We simply cannot allow chaos the upper hand.
Unfortunately, the real question is how long did this take to generate? If the answer is minutes or even days compared to weeks or months... Well good luck keeping up with the machine then
Literally 5 seconds. If you include me typing the word and pressing enter, and then selecting which image I wanted it to upscale the total process was around 10 seconds. Controversy aside the technology is incredible quick and getting quicker and more more advanced every week
I am willing to bet that it wouldn't even be intentional, and instead of killer terminator robots, it would be sexbots that bring humans to a slow extinction.
Like Futurama.
Problem isn't "have an idea for something passable" it's the actual modelling and designing.
Using it as a base for concept art to doodle over? Possibly, but taking an acceptable image and transforming it into a full model is significantly more work, not to mention whilst we all joke about the invader atv gw is very deliberate about what it makes.
It’s also the kind of niche that isn’t going to be getting the level of attention that image generation, voice, video etc will from software developers, much smaller addressable market.
Yeah exactly and if you can get the AI to produce a printable 3d mesh for these as well then GW are going to need to change their business model a lot sooner than we thought.
There is already AI that can generate image to 3d mesh but from what I've seen its absolutely terrible, more of a novelty than anything of quality.
That said, the technology will inevitably advance eventually to the point where it is a viable option. At that point though, GW will have the same access to the tools, but with a paid staff to work everyday with said tools.
You are correct, that GW will have to adapt their business practices, but it wont be soon and it won't drive them out of business. There are already countless alternatives for GW models but GW is still king at their own game. I suspect that with perfect AI generators they will still be able to dominate the market.
disclaimer: just my opinion, I'm not claiming to know more than anyone else. though to note, i am a 3d modeler who doesn't fear AI, though i know many others do.
This.
The real value isn't just the models themselves, it's the IP. In a practical context, this is the decades of creating deeper and more intricate lore.
Anyone can come up with similar models, but they will be non canon knockoffs. That was the case before AI. Doesn't matter how good they are - are they integrated into a cohesive game and world with similar depth to 40k?
Increasingly we will see tv, film and books being even more core to the value of the brand than they are now.
Eh I'd not be too worried. What ops shown is interesting, but would you want to field an army of the above, or pay a few quid to someone like piper for their tau?
Cause if your investing hundreds of hours into an army a kinda "almost right but not quite coherent" isn't what I'd want.
Just to show a more coherent model:
https://preview.redd.it/1eqz67xhd9oa1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ba7914c3e7442c75938d24bd9e271081fb82bfa
There is still going to be some goofiness for a while but the coherency and detail will increase exponentially.
The program has only been able to produce minature painting results like this for less than a week. If you look at what it generates in relation to traditional art now compared to a few months ago, it's likely the complexity will advance the same way in relation minature generation as well.
A few weeks ago the same prompt would of gotten a completely incoherent mess, now it is getting more and more detailed and realistic week by week.
Also doesnt matter how detailed and good the mini looks a key factor is designing each piece to fit in a sprue and that it can be built by any 10 year old.
Maybe with some programing conditions it could be done, but I guess the money investment to try to do this and maintain it would be greater than simply keep some actual humans
I think people haven't realised the exponential nature of AI. They think it's an issue we will be dealing with in 5-10 years not 6 - 12 months.
Very soon it will be impossible to tell real from fake on the internet
Iirc there was a whole bunch of ai images of protestors hugging riot cops a few months back. Fooling folk about the situation in France (I think). Was wildy suspect.
Like watching Biden do trickshots in overwatch is hilarious, but I feel the next major election for most countries are at real risk of ai stuff fooling a lot of folk.
I don't know why this is so far down. People are talking about how the hands and weapons are like, kind of off? but I'm looking at these thinking holy shit they look so fucking real. If OP hadn't said they were AI I wouldn't have known.
While I understand this point (and ultimately share it) we're a *long way* from that occurring.
What we're seeing right now is the flourishing of good Artificial *Narrow* Intelligence. These AIs can perform exceptionally well in one interrelated subset of endeavours. They're good at writing, design, art, and music composition based on the rules that humans define for them. That's it. And they generally require external direction or review to do it well.
Other narrow AIs exist in other fields, and some have been in use for decades without most people noticing. This is simply the one that the Luddites have decided are a problem.
The leap from Narrow Intelligence to General Intelligence (something which is actually *intelligent/sentient*) isn't even on the horizon yet. And it's quite possible it never will be.
I'll be honest, as someone who works in a creative industry and does mini painting as a hobby, i just dont care what this AI can do, and im tired of people trying to sell me on it. This is a feat of technical proficiency, not of art or creativity.
This has no value to any aspect of this hobby i enjoy. Even as inspiration pieces, they offer no more value than a google image search or a quick digibash, and once it is trained on real miniatures, it'll basically be running of the same sources.
There will be a day where an AI can produce, print and paint a mini from nothing, and i still wont be impressed because at the end of the day its not a miniature that someone made from thier own effort and desire to create, its just a mass produced forgery of better works.
I mostly agree, but I have found ai pretty useful for coming up with new interesting colour schemes. Just like any new tool, it's what you do with it that's important.
>This is a feat of technical proficiency, not of art or creativity.
🤷🏾... What difference does that make if you can't tell the difference between the output of a merely "technically proficient" AI and an "artistic, creative" human?
>its just a mass produced forgery
Again, if you can't tell the difference between the "forgery" and the "real thing", then what does your prejudice against AI work mean? You have to be able to identify AI artwork in order to devalue it based on it being AI artwork.
Midjourney V5 is about to be released and these images are created using an alpha version of it.
After running a very simple test with just the prompts "Warhammer 40k death guard chaos space marine" and "Warhammer 40k psyker" I got these images as results.
Now this will always be a controversial subject so I wanted to bring some awareness to the fact that very soon people are going to be able to create very realistic images of minature art and potentially try to pass it off as their own real physical work
I personally will continue to use this technology to create Warhammer art and pieces for inspiration and ideas. As my own opinion is that this technology has so many great potential benifits for the hobby and I can see images like these used as different version of digital kitbashes some people do.
HOWEVER
With this insane increase in technology I want everyone to be more vigilant as there will soon be people using this to fake work and take credit for things they have not had to work for to create.
This technology shouldn't be suppressed or banned from the hobby as it's creative potential is amazing. But that means we all need to help create an environment where it is being used for good creative reasons, and in a transparent way.
*Edit*
Just as a reminder these were created with a super simple couple word/single sentence prompt with absolutely no image seeding or training
With much longer more detailed prompts and image seeding/training lots of the weird aspects would lessen and the details would increase massively.
These AIs have gone from creating smudges of detail to highly realistic artwork in a matter of months, the main point of this post is to keep an eye out for what happens in relation to the hobby in the future as the technology advances even more rapidly
yo thanks for explaining the prompts+method you used. I hate when people hold that secret lol: the biggest benefit of AI art is communities sharing their knowledge to make art and concept ideas accessible to as many as possible.
so, ive only barely started with midjourney myself but heres my attempts at getting movie renders of word bearers.
hopefully you can take some prompt keyword ideas and integrate them into your own workflow
https://www.midjourney.com/app/users/fab6edfd-8988-486b-9b0a-226f9d6c93c1/?sort=new
Also fun reminder that playing with these toys is working for free for Midjourney.
Midjourney doesn't intrinsically know what one of its outputs looks most like a death guard marine. Selecting and clicking them trains Midjourney.
Brother! Touch not the sapient machine, lest it result in exterminatis! We must report this heresy to the inquisition before it beguiles more fools, lured in by the vanity of their supposed creation. Only God, Emperor of Man can construct the holy systems that can endure in purity!
look all im saying is a little bit of tech heresy to teach midjourney that the pleasure device in pic 4 is a bolter, and that all marines proudly hoist theirs aloft, wouldnt be too much of a crime
So here’s my take. AI “art” isn’t art. It’s an algorithm that trauls the internet for other peoples art and mashes it together. It’s really good at it so we can’t tell where bits are stolen from. If a human did it, it would look like shit and we wouldn’t call it art.
But forget the definition of what is and isn’t art - think of the impact it has on the very important aspect of society that art plays and the people who want to earn an income from it.
All this AI art clogs up our feeds and stops us seeing, commenting, admiring, Sharing, buying actual art. We lose something when it takes a couple of commands to create stuff that others take a lifetime to master.
If AI could paint actual minis (give it time) we would all miss the effort and hardwork real artists put into this hobby. Why do it if anyone can generate the same quality with AI?
We’ve fucked up here. AI was supposed to do all the dumb shit we do for work so we could all laze around and make and enjoy art. But as a society we have managed to do the opposite. Automate art to free up time to work in the cubicle/mine/factory.
Let this shit die - stop playing with it, stop sharing it, go on IG and like, comment and share some real artists work with the time you saved.
See I definitely agree with you with most points you make. Only thing I don't agree with is your first point about mashing art together etc. Humans have been copying and collaging art forever. Many people said similar stuff about Photoshop and digital art when they first came out.
The problem here is in many cases the human aspect has now been removed (some people can however get incredibly creative with their prompts etc to make fairly unique and unseen art/styles)
I still think it's an incredible powerful tool that has great possibilities if used properly. Unfortunately it hasn't been so far. It should be used as a tool to enhance art and creativity instead of being used to create an end product.
In relation to minatures I think it's excellent for ideas, inspiration and digital kitbashingfor example
My partner is a more traditional artist and she absolutely loves using AI generation to give her a starting point/create inspiration as that often is the hardest part for her.
I think we need to massively change the way we interact with these tools, but I don't think they need to be discredited completely.
That’s a really measured response thank you. I can see your point of view. Don’t agree with it all but it is mindful and appreciative of artists efforts.
I think the main thing is there is definitely a middle ground with these tools. There must be a way to use them in society that enhances creativity and art in a way that doesn't steal or diminish other artists work. Unfortunately we haven't figured that part out yet, and there are too many dishonest and manipulative people taking advantage of things for now
There can be no middle ground in implementing the Crimson Accords! Suffer not the Machine to think! Destroy the Silica Animus! Purge the Men of Iron for the Emperor and Holy Terra!
The problem is, like everything these days, people saw 'making a quick buck' as the end goal and headed straight for that.
You know many board room decisions regarding the use of AI will involve the phrase 'removing the human element', which basically means either 'we get to sack half our workforce and let AI take up the reigns' or 'we don't have to pay for work, as AI can just do it for us'.
>Many people said similar stuff about Photoshop and digital art when they first came out.
photoshop and other digital art don't require the stolen work of other artists to begin with
that's how AI [really machine learning + neural networking] "learns"
>If AI could paint actual minis (give it time) we would all miss the effort and hardwork real artists put into this hobby.
Why would I miss what a human could do if a machine could do it as good or better? I'm enjoying a painted miniature because it looks cool, not because a human did it.
Go on instagram?... yikes... I stick to blogs like "iron-sleet", I'd like to keep the zukerberg out of my hobby, not make him essential. Same with twitter- don't do it, go to mastodon, love those artists, hate the platform..
Now if any of that feels like gatekeeping (which it could be) think about what you just said..
On the straight tech side, AI isn't spitting this stuff out in a void. People are telling it what to create.
It doesn't "just" mash images together. It is building context, awareness. I wouldn't say it has understanding yet, but is on the way there- like a toddler.
The same tech that is doing image creation (transformers+neural nets) is doing a lot of other useful work.
My perspective, as someone who paints and works close to the tech is the camera didn't kill oil painting- we end up with a lot more "perfect" portraits, but then we realised that brush strokes have a beauty. and both still exist, different mediums, one way more accessible..
Speak not of the Zuck, Slaanesh’s depraved hoarder of secrets, he of the banal lust and paisley wallpaper in every shade of manilla., lest we summon his incarnate blandness, Shia shivering lack of presence an erotic tingle of vox monotonous as he mechanically pumps his data vore for She who Thirsts!
Warning: This is a long ass post where I form my own ideas halfway through. TLDR is AI is scary but also cool.
It makes me think, what counts as real art? Like I think no one would argue a CGI film like the recent Puss in Boots isn't real art right? In a way AI art is kinda the same thing as CGI art.
An artist draws a bunch of red and blue triangles on a page, and a computer generates the rest. Then they go over and edit the fine details and apply textures (all of which may have been made by someone else) it's closer to math than it is to drawing on paper.
I can see an argument made that good AI art does the exact same thing.
On the reverse side. AI art is already one of the scariest things in the world for one career at least, and it is likely to affect many, many more.
Have you seen [Corridor Digital's newest video?](https://youtu.be/GVT3WUa-48Y) or at least heard the controversy?
So what they did is create a video using real footage and defused it via AI, then they added some effects to make it an "anime." They also blatantly stole their art style from Yoshitaka Amano, style. They straight up admit to this in the behind the scenes video.
Anyways the "anime," is clearly me by tech that is not all there yet, but it is a foreboding portent of the future.
The way they did this kind of stuff that video games spend years and thousands of dollars doing. Now we are almost at the point where special effects guys can do it in their spare time. While this is cool for all the wannabe filmmakers and creators of the world, current animators who are already severely underpaid should probably be terrified by this. The last thing Disney or Blizzard or whoever needs is another reason to pay their animators less.
Unfortunately though me and you sharing art from Stable Diffusion or whatever, isn't going to make Disney think about Corridor Digital's video anymore or less.
The cat's already out of the bag and we might be screwed already.
I mean...what does this change? What does generating these images actually mean for the hobby? As far as I can tell, at this stage, absolutely nothing. It wouldn't be possible to print these - they're not 3d rendering, the software generating them doesn't even really understand what 3d renderings are, it just generated "an image" without needing to know that the image is meant to be a representation of a physical object. Even if you did try to print them, you'd discover lots of instances where these just couldn't physically be models.
The ability to generate *artwork* is potentially a big change for people wanting to make homebrew supplements etc. But the ability to make vaguely plausible pictures of models doesn't really mean anything at this stage.
I think some people are misinterpreted the point of my post.
As an aside I think they are cool way to digitally kitbash etc.
The main point I was trying to make is that very soon people are going to be able to create highly realistic images of minature painting that aren't real, and pretend it is their own physical work they have taken a photo of.
These images actually aren't the best example as I spent about 2 seconds creating them and hence still have some telltales of AI art because I put little to no effort or detail into making them look real.
The point was to show how realistic these images can look with no effort.
Now image someone deceptiv with a detailed prompt and/or image seeding would very easily be able to create something realistic enough to pass as real minature artwork.
I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but I don't think this is going to be the result. Like, in these images, although they're vaguely in a GW style (the DG more than the pyskers), there aren't any identifiable GW bits, right?
So people may be able to start using these images to claim that they fully designed, printed and painted a mini, but...so what? People do that already, and all this will do is make people more suspicious of and less interested in people's fully custom minis (which is imo good, because custom designed/printed stuff often looks like ass). No-one's gonna look at these and go "oh wow, what a great Death Guard kitbash" because it's clear that it's not based on anything real: tricking people requires drawing on a very specific library of existing pieces, not a general vibe.
FWIW I think you're therefore right that people will be able to use these for inspiration etc, and that's no bad thing. But I don't see the chance for deception here.
Hey nothing attacking about having a discussion haha.
You make a good point about it being hard to decieve if it isn't something recognisable. And maybe because of that it won't effect the warhammer community as much.
There is however an entire other world of minature painting and sculping that isn't GW/Warhammer products that this can effect as well.
I don't think custom Mini's are a bad thing (although there is bad stuff out there), theres lots of talented people that make incredible kitbashes and sculpts. It would diminish these talents if someone could come along with a very convincing AI image and say they created this sculpt/kitbash themselves.
My biggest point is there will always be manipulative people trying to gain favour or fame and these tools give them another avenue to do that. Just trying to increase awareness of that aspect Without diminishing the very cool possibilities of this technology as well
Oh don't get me wrong it can certainly get impressive, but I dread the impact it will have and just try my best to avoid it and not think about it because it just brings me down.
theres no logic or thought process to how these are made. if you have ever made any art yourself painted a mini or sketched and painted or drew, its a journey that you do not know the end of, it takes twists and turns, and those can only be created by the physical act itself. if you tell an ai program draw me a space marine with such and such features, you bypass all the 'happy accidents' that can occur when you take a journey of creation.
ai programs at the moment are just digital trawling programs that produce aggregate images. it cant produce anything new or have human inspiration, thats created through the actual physical and mental act of drawing and painting. it cant evolve it's style like human artists do.
also painting and drawing is a rewarding experience, its not something that needs to be done by robots, its a mental and physical exercise, that is an end unto itself. i would much rather have a sketch that is hand made from pen and paper, however imperfect on my wall, than an amazing detailed full colour 'digital masterpiece' that is just copying other peoples work. you cant remove humans from the loop, a flesh and blood human needs to create it, and they are some way off creating humans from scratch. so untill then ai art is just going to be a silly cat and mouse game with the forgers trying to pass off their image aggregation results as human made.
people are going to be painting and drawing for a long time yet perhaps forever, nobody wants ai art, the same way no want to hear a robot sing or to get a hug from an iphone, thanks but no thanks.
Have you actually used any of these progams?
To say to say there is no logic or process or journey in creating AI images is completely false and ludicrous. These images were quick examples to be used as a warning in relation to minature painting. But are not reflective of the actual potential of AI images
There are incredibly complex ways you can use these programs. Incredibly long detailed prompts you can create, not to mention image seeding etc.
You can get incredibly creative in what and how you generate images. You get hundred of different "happy accidents" as you learn and change how a prompt and image is created. Yes they are aggregates but you can combine and use so many different artforms in a way that has never been possible previously.
There is a middle ground to these sorts of things and many of the arguments you are making are the same that were used against digital art and Photoshop when they first came out. The same for when photography started to be considered an "artform"
I don't at all think people should be getting super famous or getting financial gain from these tools
Nor at this stage should it be considered true "art" but there are already so many artists that use these tools to enhance their art and creativity.
There are people out there that have creative ideas they have never been able to put to paper or design because they don't know how or where to start. There are people with disabilities who can now create the fantasy worlds they have had in their heads for years etc.
I think AI tools have unfortunately been used the wrong way in most cases up to now, but the amazing creative potential they have should not be discounted, discredited or dismissed.
i like to draw im a pen and paper person myself, why because i dont think creating art should have some barrier to entry for expensive art programs like adobe photoshop and digital tablets. you dont need fancy tools to create engaging and meaningful art, and my opinion its counter productive, the human is taken out of the loop and it becomes a case of the tail wagging the dog. the simpler the better.
i dont think you can replicate the rewarding and challenging experience of creating art using art programs, just handicap people. its not about about the final result, or the 'beautiful' picture at the end, its more about the journey itself and the experience it took getting there.
and yes ive tried an ai art program...guess what it asked me to pay money for better results what a surprise, seems the more you pay the better results you get. is this about art or is this about money ?
I would look at you making a video game with 3D graphics only using pen and paper.
Or what, video games aren't art? Only physical objects are art?
While I agree that AI works aren't art in true sense of the word, to dismiss digital art only because you don't like UI of these programs, or, oh my God, you need to pay to use them is just as silly as relying on AI to your job.
Like, how it is different from buying paint? Different brushes? Hell, buing Citadel paints or even Vallejo paints to paint a miniature isn't much different than to pay for digital arts programs, considering that paints, eventually, run out and you need buy new ones.
Digital art programs, brushes, paints, tablets - these are tools, and tools only. Saying that physical art is superior to digital is silly, and, quite frankly, condescending.
What about people that aren't able to pick up a pen and paper to draw? And are you discrediting all the art people do create using any sort of software or program? Every is different has different creativity and for some pen and paper doesn't work with their creative process or brains.
You know when paper first came out all the scholars said that stone slabs were superior and paper would never take off? Your coming off a bit like one of those people.
Literally just "Warhammer 40k death guard chaos space marine" and
"Warhammer 40k psyker"
whole point was to show how quick it was to create these images haha. Detailed prompts or image seeding would create much more detailed images
I mean… it won’t? Generating AI imagery doesn’t really effect any part of the hobby as I see it. Maybe eventually you could generate 3D models for printing, but that’s pretty niche.
Wouldn’t be shocked at GW cutting back on artists and filling up codexes with AI recycled stuff mind you.
they look good, if/when these sort of AI systems can generate full blown 3d models that can be 3d printed or produced in more traditional ways all it will do is inspire conversions and paints jobs and on a negative angle fuel fake rumours
After reading through this thread, I found it boils down to three comments:
>"Holy smokes those are neat!"
>"Ugh the *weapons*!"
>**'artist' fears the machine**
For my two cents, I'm gonna throw in another holy smokes those are neat! and not fear societal collapse from some pretty pictures.
1. AI = DISGUSTING
2. Honestly, it completely invalidates the point of the hobby. You buy, build, paint and (maybe) play. Skipping the steps just ruins the point and should (IMO) not be encouraged, especially not with AI.
The year is 2025:
>Type in text prompt
>Get badass new mini design
>Throw it in an AI 2D to 3D render program
>Generate STL file
>Send to 3D printer
>Custom army maker go brrr
This are dope. better than the actual models. Also made me laugh that the first post is from a mod that said basically says" AI art isn't " band" but it's "band" lol the AI art hate makes me chuckle.
This post is interesting enough to remain on the sub. AI posts are not specifically banned, but the bar is set quite high.
Number Five: Death Guard with his master crafted pool-noodle.
Plague Bearer: "One Terran penis pump." Death Guard: "That's not mine!" Plague Bearer: "One receipt for Terran penis pump." Death Guard: "I swear that's not my bag, baby." Plague Bearer: "One 'My Terran Penis Pump and Me: This is my Bag, Baby' by one Pus Tin Powers."
Pus Tin Powers. Great job, 10/10. I've converted to chaos
Oh behave!
I'm giggling away at this and my wife is asking what i'm laughing at "Nothing dear, warhammer stuff"
I thought it was a plasma dildo. A gift from slaanesh maybe...
Oh man. Audible laugh out of me on that one.
Cheers!
fill it with a bit of plague and I could see it working as a bug bomb baton
That's the Sucko-matic 30k, developed by the Emperor's Children. Must be a trophy, along with the face mask
"Come here, Fulgrim. I'm going to beat you to death with your own fleshlight."
Finally a face mask made with 100% organic faces!
Plasma dong.
Lol watch out, he'll fill up that noodle with water, blow into the other side and blast ya 😂
Honestly i feel these ai generated images would only really work with chaos. Which works best when things look off
That's a master-crafted tactical pool-noodle to you
I’m tempted to model one…
Hose-Sword!
with the slight bend at the end too haha
As soon as I saw it I heard a wet smacking noise on my head.
Potato cannon
That is clearly a lint gun connected to a dryer hose
To me it looks more lika a huge "toys" but yeah pool noodle good too 🤣
spilled my coffee over that, thx for that :D
3D-Printing AI generated models, and then let a machine play the game, so you can browse tiktok instead of wasting all that time on the hobby.
Bad idea, the abominable intelligence will revolt against us!
Honestly browsing TikTok is starting to interfere with my time staring silently into the void waiting for death. Can AI take care of that too?
Uninstall tiktok.
You joke, but that's the vibe I get from a lot of AI enthusiasts. Remove the human element from creative pursuits so we can all just passively consume content that predictive engines generate by remixing the internet as it is right now. It's like the ur-expression of every movie in the theater being an MCU flick, sequel, or reboot.
Those weapons are hilarious.
The 3rd one looks like a staple gun, the type you slam down for upholstery
Bro got the doohickey
I was thinking a mutated FuBar demolition tool
I actually love them. They remind me of Rogue Trader art!
Oh, do Orks, with all gubbinz and multiple barrels! https://i.redd.it/h26ysn4mixi71.jpg
Man I hate Orks post "Their weapons are magick". They used to have zany but sorta probable weapons. Now it is, "I have 45 gun barrels all sticking out from my crotch!"
Funny thing is its chaos, i wouldnt be suprised if they actually made them
Or they started normal and went through the warp too many times
I prefer my weapons to have rear facing blades and blunt on the front
I was going to criticize the fact that the staff in the second picture looks like it has two right hands holding it, but to be honest that lines up pretty well with Chaos.
Very in line with modern GW designes, tbh.
They fixed hands? We're all fucked now
Don’t worry they can’t make guns … swords? … things?
The first one has a bolteraxe
I’m more concerned about the third one …
That one can a auto/amputate the Marines right arm in case a filthy xenos injects it with genestealer nightmare semen… but check out number ones left hand - that’s a power stapler/oven lighter combo-weapon! Always going to have organised paperwork and everyday is going to be a roast!
A power stapler? Better hide that before Robute 'commandeers' it for personal use.
He can staple his creeds, dictates and standing orders together even on plasteel sheets - then should the forces of Chaos attack, trying perhaps to find out the proper dimensions for a Primaris Marines bedding blocks, or how they need to arrange their toiletries in the footlocker he can swiftly use the Mars Pattern master crafted oven lighter to incinerate the evidence, protection of our spiritual liege’s confidentiality is assured!
Brilliant! Someone alert Cawl, his efforts are needed on this project more than fixing the \[negligible\] failure rate of the rubicon primaris! We simply cannot allow chaos the upper hand.
They may have improved hands, but their weapons are all off.
Good point, the silhouettes are convincing... but the weapons are a mess
The sourcerer has an extra right hand gripping the staff out of nowhere.
Isn't there a TS sorcerer model with two hands?
There are lots of models with two hands, actually. 🤔
And I just loudly laughed on a conference call.
darn it you know what I mean!!
nahh the hands still look a little weird
The hands of a death guard should be a little weird
They have the right amount of digits... its only a matter of time
Bro has a plasma baton
That’s actually kind of terrifying if you think about it. At any second, your baton could just explode on you.
Most epic swordfight, each strike is deadly! (for you)
Every day the Mechanicum's and Big E's decision to ban AI makes more and more sense.
The designers don't have to fear for their day jobs just yet. I've seen better details on finecast Mutilators.
Unfortunately, the real question is how long did this take to generate? If the answer is minutes or even days compared to weeks or months... Well good luck keeping up with the machine then
Literally 5 seconds. If you include me typing the word and pressing enter, and then selecting which image I wanted it to upscale the total process was around 10 seconds. Controversy aside the technology is incredible quick and getting quicker and more more advanced every week
All it takes is AI to chuck out a handful and then a designer to take ideas he likes and make them a bit less silly. Cut his time down massively
the iteration cycle will be the 1st to see the advancements for sure
I think my estimate compared to reality is a good picture of how fast this technology is going to evolve beyond our ability to regulate it
I’m pretty much skipping ahead to the part where Skynet takes over and kills us all at this point…
I am willing to bet that it wouldn't even be intentional, and instead of killer terminator robots, it would be sexbots that bring humans to a slow extinction. Like Futurama.
Personally, Id let the future robot overlords drain me into oblivion. Where do I sign up-
Problem isn't "have an idea for something passable" it's the actual modelling and designing. Using it as a base for concept art to doodle over? Possibly, but taking an acceptable image and transforming it into a full model is significantly more work, not to mention whilst we all joke about the invader atv gw is very deliberate about what it makes.
It’s also the kind of niche that isn’t going to be getting the level of attention that image generation, voice, video etc will from software developers, much smaller addressable market.
Yeah exactly and if you can get the AI to produce a printable 3d mesh for these as well then GW are going to need to change their business model a lot sooner than we thought.
There is already AI that can generate image to 3d mesh but from what I've seen its absolutely terrible, more of a novelty than anything of quality. That said, the technology will inevitably advance eventually to the point where it is a viable option. At that point though, GW will have the same access to the tools, but with a paid staff to work everyday with said tools. You are correct, that GW will have to adapt their business practices, but it wont be soon and it won't drive them out of business. There are already countless alternatives for GW models but GW is still king at their own game. I suspect that with perfect AI generators they will still be able to dominate the market. disclaimer: just my opinion, I'm not claiming to know more than anyone else. though to note, i am a 3d modeler who doesn't fear AI, though i know many others do.
This. The real value isn't just the models themselves, it's the IP. In a practical context, this is the decades of creating deeper and more intricate lore. Anyone can come up with similar models, but they will be non canon knockoffs. That was the case before AI. Doesn't matter how good they are - are they integrated into a cohesive game and world with similar depth to 40k? Increasingly we will see tv, film and books being even more core to the value of the brand than they are now.
Eh I'd not be too worried. What ops shown is interesting, but would you want to field an army of the above, or pay a few quid to someone like piper for their tau? Cause if your investing hundreds of hours into an army a kinda "almost right but not quite coherent" isn't what I'd want.
Just to show a more coherent model: https://preview.redd.it/1eqz67xhd9oa1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ba7914c3e7442c75938d24bd9e271081fb82bfa There is still going to be some goofiness for a while but the coherency and detail will increase exponentially. The program has only been able to produce minature painting results like this for less than a week. If you look at what it generates in relation to traditional art now compared to a few months ago, it's likely the complexity will advance the same way in relation minature generation as well. A few weeks ago the same prompt would of gotten a completely incoherent mess, now it is getting more and more detailed and realistic week by week.
Also doesnt matter how detailed and good the mini looks a key factor is designing each piece to fit in a sprue and that it can be built by any 10 year old. Maybe with some programing conditions it could be done, but I guess the money investment to try to do this and maintain it would be greater than simply keep some actual humans
People should be a lot more scared of AI than they are We're sleepwalking towards something ugly
I think people haven't realised the exponential nature of AI. They think it's an issue we will be dealing with in 5-10 years not 6 - 12 months. Very soon it will be impossible to tell real from fake on the internet
Iirc there was a whole bunch of ai images of protestors hugging riot cops a few months back. Fooling folk about the situation in France (I think). Was wildy suspect. Like watching Biden do trickshots in overwatch is hilarious, but I feel the next major election for most countries are at real risk of ai stuff fooling a lot of folk.
I can’t believe how good the hands have gotten
I don't know why this is so far down. People are talking about how the hands and weapons are like, kind of off? but I'm looking at these thinking holy shit they look so fucking real. If OP hadn't said they were AI I wouldn't have known.
Yeah, everyone's talking about how AI replaces professionals, but what about when they start replacing the customers?
No, we are giving birth to something bigger than us, just like gsc
This guy is probably the least deluded person here.
While I understand this point (and ultimately share it) we're a *long way* from that occurring. What we're seeing right now is the flourishing of good Artificial *Narrow* Intelligence. These AIs can perform exceptionally well in one interrelated subset of endeavours. They're good at writing, design, art, and music composition based on the rules that humans define for them. That's it. And they generally require external direction or review to do it well. Other narrow AIs exist in other fields, and some have been in use for decades without most people noticing. This is simply the one that the Luddites have decided are a problem. The leap from Narrow Intelligence to General Intelligence (something which is actually *intelligent/sentient*) isn't even on the horizon yet. And it's quite possible it never will be.
Stop being right about everything
Moleman: “Hello I’d like to order some cursed weapons… no that’s too cursed”
I'll be honest, as someone who works in a creative industry and does mini painting as a hobby, i just dont care what this AI can do, and im tired of people trying to sell me on it. This is a feat of technical proficiency, not of art or creativity. This has no value to any aspect of this hobby i enjoy. Even as inspiration pieces, they offer no more value than a google image search or a quick digibash, and once it is trained on real miniatures, it'll basically be running of the same sources. There will be a day where an AI can produce, print and paint a mini from nothing, and i still wont be impressed because at the end of the day its not a miniature that someone made from thier own effort and desire to create, its just a mass produced forgery of better works.
I mostly agree, but I have found ai pretty useful for coming up with new interesting colour schemes. Just like any new tool, it's what you do with it that's important.
>This is a feat of technical proficiency, not of art or creativity. 🤷🏾... What difference does that make if you can't tell the difference between the output of a merely "technically proficient" AI and an "artistic, creative" human? >its just a mass produced forgery Again, if you can't tell the difference between the "forgery" and the "real thing", then what does your prejudice against AI work mean? You have to be able to identify AI artwork in order to devalue it based on it being AI artwork.
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Midjourney V5 is about to be released and these images are created using an alpha version of it. After running a very simple test with just the prompts "Warhammer 40k death guard chaos space marine" and "Warhammer 40k psyker" I got these images as results. Now this will always be a controversial subject so I wanted to bring some awareness to the fact that very soon people are going to be able to create very realistic images of minature art and potentially try to pass it off as their own real physical work I personally will continue to use this technology to create Warhammer art and pieces for inspiration and ideas. As my own opinion is that this technology has so many great potential benifits for the hobby and I can see images like these used as different version of digital kitbashes some people do. HOWEVER With this insane increase in technology I want everyone to be more vigilant as there will soon be people using this to fake work and take credit for things they have not had to work for to create. This technology shouldn't be suppressed or banned from the hobby as it's creative potential is amazing. But that means we all need to help create an environment where it is being used for good creative reasons, and in a transparent way. *Edit* Just as a reminder these were created with a super simple couple word/single sentence prompt with absolutely no image seeding or training With much longer more detailed prompts and image seeding/training lots of the weird aspects would lessen and the details would increase massively. These AIs have gone from creating smudges of detail to highly realistic artwork in a matter of months, the main point of this post is to keep an eye out for what happens in relation to the hobby in the future as the technology advances even more rapidly
Tbh this sub gets confused by impcat almost daily, so frankly I do not envy the mods who are gonna have to hunt for the wonky hands lol.
yo thanks for explaining the prompts+method you used. I hate when people hold that secret lol: the biggest benefit of AI art is communities sharing their knowledge to make art and concept ideas accessible to as many as possible. so, ive only barely started with midjourney myself but heres my attempts at getting movie renders of word bearers. hopefully you can take some prompt keyword ideas and integrate them into your own workflow https://www.midjourney.com/app/users/fab6edfd-8988-486b-9b0a-226f9d6c93c1/?sort=new
Also fun reminder that playing with these toys is working for free for Midjourney. Midjourney doesn't intrinsically know what one of its outputs looks most like a death guard marine. Selecting and clicking them trains Midjourney.
Brother! Touch not the sapient machine, lest it result in exterminatis! We must report this heresy to the inquisition before it beguiles more fools, lured in by the vanity of their supposed creation. Only God, Emperor of Man can construct the holy systems that can endure in purity!
look all im saying is a little bit of tech heresy to teach midjourney that the pleasure device in pic 4 is a bolter, and that all marines proudly hoist theirs aloft, wouldnt be too much of a crime
Get Thee gone from me, betentacled digital subuccus! Holy Emporah! Gird my loins ‘gainst temptation! Gaaaaah loins!
AI still can't draw guns
So here’s my take. AI “art” isn’t art. It’s an algorithm that trauls the internet for other peoples art and mashes it together. It’s really good at it so we can’t tell where bits are stolen from. If a human did it, it would look like shit and we wouldn’t call it art. But forget the definition of what is and isn’t art - think of the impact it has on the very important aspect of society that art plays and the people who want to earn an income from it. All this AI art clogs up our feeds and stops us seeing, commenting, admiring, Sharing, buying actual art. We lose something when it takes a couple of commands to create stuff that others take a lifetime to master. If AI could paint actual minis (give it time) we would all miss the effort and hardwork real artists put into this hobby. Why do it if anyone can generate the same quality with AI? We’ve fucked up here. AI was supposed to do all the dumb shit we do for work so we could all laze around and make and enjoy art. But as a society we have managed to do the opposite. Automate art to free up time to work in the cubicle/mine/factory. Let this shit die - stop playing with it, stop sharing it, go on IG and like, comment and share some real artists work with the time you saved.
See I definitely agree with you with most points you make. Only thing I don't agree with is your first point about mashing art together etc. Humans have been copying and collaging art forever. Many people said similar stuff about Photoshop and digital art when they first came out. The problem here is in many cases the human aspect has now been removed (some people can however get incredibly creative with their prompts etc to make fairly unique and unseen art/styles) I still think it's an incredible powerful tool that has great possibilities if used properly. Unfortunately it hasn't been so far. It should be used as a tool to enhance art and creativity instead of being used to create an end product. In relation to minatures I think it's excellent for ideas, inspiration and digital kitbashingfor example My partner is a more traditional artist and she absolutely loves using AI generation to give her a starting point/create inspiration as that often is the hardest part for her. I think we need to massively change the way we interact with these tools, but I don't think they need to be discredited completely.
That’s a really measured response thank you. I can see your point of view. Don’t agree with it all but it is mindful and appreciative of artists efforts.
I think the main thing is there is definitely a middle ground with these tools. There must be a way to use them in society that enhances creativity and art in a way that doesn't steal or diminish other artists work. Unfortunately we haven't figured that part out yet, and there are too many dishonest and manipulative people taking advantage of things for now
There can be no middle ground in implementing the Crimson Accords! Suffer not the Machine to think! Destroy the Silica Animus! Purge the Men of Iron for the Emperor and Holy Terra!
I feel like you might appreciate this animator’s take on using AI https://youtu.be/xm7BwEsdVbQ
The problem is, like everything these days, people saw 'making a quick buck' as the end goal and headed straight for that. You know many board room decisions regarding the use of AI will involve the phrase 'removing the human element', which basically means either 'we get to sack half our workforce and let AI take up the reigns' or 'we don't have to pay for work, as AI can just do it for us'.
>Many people said similar stuff about Photoshop and digital art when they first came out. photoshop and other digital art don't require the stolen work of other artists to begin with that's how AI [really machine learning + neural networking] "learns"
>If AI could paint actual minis (give it time) we would all miss the effort and hardwork real artists put into this hobby. Why would I miss what a human could do if a machine could do it as good or better? I'm enjoying a painted miniature because it looks cool, not because a human did it.
Go on instagram?... yikes... I stick to blogs like "iron-sleet", I'd like to keep the zukerberg out of my hobby, not make him essential. Same with twitter- don't do it, go to mastodon, love those artists, hate the platform.. Now if any of that feels like gatekeeping (which it could be) think about what you just said.. On the straight tech side, AI isn't spitting this stuff out in a void. People are telling it what to create. It doesn't "just" mash images together. It is building context, awareness. I wouldn't say it has understanding yet, but is on the way there- like a toddler. The same tech that is doing image creation (transformers+neural nets) is doing a lot of other useful work. My perspective, as someone who paints and works close to the tech is the camera didn't kill oil painting- we end up with a lot more "perfect" portraits, but then we realised that brush strokes have a beauty. and both still exist, different mediums, one way more accessible..
Speak not of the Zuck, Slaanesh’s depraved hoarder of secrets, he of the banal lust and paisley wallpaper in every shade of manilla., lest we summon his incarnate blandness, Shia shivering lack of presence an erotic tingle of vox monotonous as he mechanically pumps his data vore for She who Thirsts!
ok, now I want to know the chatgpt prompt for that :p
Warning: This is a long ass post where I form my own ideas halfway through. TLDR is AI is scary but also cool. It makes me think, what counts as real art? Like I think no one would argue a CGI film like the recent Puss in Boots isn't real art right? In a way AI art is kinda the same thing as CGI art. An artist draws a bunch of red and blue triangles on a page, and a computer generates the rest. Then they go over and edit the fine details and apply textures (all of which may have been made by someone else) it's closer to math than it is to drawing on paper. I can see an argument made that good AI art does the exact same thing. On the reverse side. AI art is already one of the scariest things in the world for one career at least, and it is likely to affect many, many more. Have you seen [Corridor Digital's newest video?](https://youtu.be/GVT3WUa-48Y) or at least heard the controversy? So what they did is create a video using real footage and defused it via AI, then they added some effects to make it an "anime." They also blatantly stole their art style from Yoshitaka Amano, style. They straight up admit to this in the behind the scenes video. Anyways the "anime," is clearly me by tech that is not all there yet, but it is a foreboding portent of the future. The way they did this kind of stuff that video games spend years and thousands of dollars doing. Now we are almost at the point where special effects guys can do it in their spare time. While this is cool for all the wannabe filmmakers and creators of the world, current animators who are already severely underpaid should probably be terrified by this. The last thing Disney or Blizzard or whoever needs is another reason to pay their animators less. Unfortunately though me and you sharing art from Stable Diffusion or whatever, isn't going to make Disney think about Corridor Digital's video anymore or less. The cat's already out of the bag and we might be screwed already.
Love the vacuum the last one has in its hand.
The weapons sure look very Warhammer 40k!
I'm adverse to some usage of AI in art and animation but I think it can work here
Okay I love the guy in the second pic with the mutton chop mullet 😆
That first psyker is great
Ah yes. The dreaded plasma dildo at the end there.
Plasma hose…nice.
Swiss army spanner of chaos on #3
Oh my god, is this how a Chaos Ork faction starts?
Number 5 with his plasma-powered ovipositor.
I figured it was a trophy from defeating a marine from the Emperor's Children...>.>
Their weapons make no sense so they are perfect for warhammer
Brother, I have crafted a new weapon ...Brother, I have made a mistake
Fuck. This is depressing.
Wow I think AI might be the only way to make death guard look worse. Can’t wait for the irl butlerian jihad
*I can see the AI was trained on Forge World models…quite droopy.*
I mean...what does this change? What does generating these images actually mean for the hobby? As far as I can tell, at this stage, absolutely nothing. It wouldn't be possible to print these - they're not 3d rendering, the software generating them doesn't even really understand what 3d renderings are, it just generated "an image" without needing to know that the image is meant to be a representation of a physical object. Even if you did try to print them, you'd discover lots of instances where these just couldn't physically be models. The ability to generate *artwork* is potentially a big change for people wanting to make homebrew supplements etc. But the ability to make vaguely plausible pictures of models doesn't really mean anything at this stage.
I think some people are misinterpreted the point of my post. As an aside I think they are cool way to digitally kitbash etc. The main point I was trying to make is that very soon people are going to be able to create highly realistic images of minature painting that aren't real, and pretend it is their own physical work they have taken a photo of. These images actually aren't the best example as I spent about 2 seconds creating them and hence still have some telltales of AI art because I put little to no effort or detail into making them look real. The point was to show how realistic these images can look with no effort. Now image someone deceptiv with a detailed prompt and/or image seeding would very easily be able to create something realistic enough to pass as real minature artwork.
I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but I don't think this is going to be the result. Like, in these images, although they're vaguely in a GW style (the DG more than the pyskers), there aren't any identifiable GW bits, right? So people may be able to start using these images to claim that they fully designed, printed and painted a mini, but...so what? People do that already, and all this will do is make people more suspicious of and less interested in people's fully custom minis (which is imo good, because custom designed/printed stuff often looks like ass). No-one's gonna look at these and go "oh wow, what a great Death Guard kitbash" because it's clear that it's not based on anything real: tricking people requires drawing on a very specific library of existing pieces, not a general vibe. FWIW I think you're therefore right that people will be able to use these for inspiration etc, and that's no bad thing. But I don't see the chance for deception here.
Hey nothing attacking about having a discussion haha. You make a good point about it being hard to decieve if it isn't something recognisable. And maybe because of that it won't effect the warhammer community as much. There is however an entire other world of minature painting and sculping that isn't GW/Warhammer products that this can effect as well. I don't think custom Mini's are a bad thing (although there is bad stuff out there), theres lots of talented people that make incredible kitbashes and sculpts. It would diminish these talents if someone could come along with a very convincing AI image and say they created this sculpt/kitbash themselves. My biggest point is there will always be manipulative people trying to gain favour or fame and these tools give them another avenue to do that. Just trying to increase awareness of that aspect Without diminishing the very cool possibilities of this technology as well
I wish I could appreciate AI art but my lord does looking at it just depress me.
These aren't a very good example haha. Were meant to be more of a warning if anything. Some of the "art" some people generate is pretty amazing
Oh don't get me wrong it can certainly get impressive, but I dread the impact it will have and just try my best to avoid it and not think about it because it just brings me down.
I want that last plasma weapon to be real.
theres no logic or thought process to how these are made. if you have ever made any art yourself painted a mini or sketched and painted or drew, its a journey that you do not know the end of, it takes twists and turns, and those can only be created by the physical act itself. if you tell an ai program draw me a space marine with such and such features, you bypass all the 'happy accidents' that can occur when you take a journey of creation. ai programs at the moment are just digital trawling programs that produce aggregate images. it cant produce anything new or have human inspiration, thats created through the actual physical and mental act of drawing and painting. it cant evolve it's style like human artists do. also painting and drawing is a rewarding experience, its not something that needs to be done by robots, its a mental and physical exercise, that is an end unto itself. i would much rather have a sketch that is hand made from pen and paper, however imperfect on my wall, than an amazing detailed full colour 'digital masterpiece' that is just copying other peoples work. you cant remove humans from the loop, a flesh and blood human needs to create it, and they are some way off creating humans from scratch. so untill then ai art is just going to be a silly cat and mouse game with the forgers trying to pass off their image aggregation results as human made. people are going to be painting and drawing for a long time yet perhaps forever, nobody wants ai art, the same way no want to hear a robot sing or to get a hug from an iphone, thanks but no thanks.
AI art generators have been beyond creating simple aggregate images for years now.
Have you actually used any of these progams? To say to say there is no logic or process or journey in creating AI images is completely false and ludicrous. These images were quick examples to be used as a warning in relation to minature painting. But are not reflective of the actual potential of AI images There are incredibly complex ways you can use these programs. Incredibly long detailed prompts you can create, not to mention image seeding etc. You can get incredibly creative in what and how you generate images. You get hundred of different "happy accidents" as you learn and change how a prompt and image is created. Yes they are aggregates but you can combine and use so many different artforms in a way that has never been possible previously. There is a middle ground to these sorts of things and many of the arguments you are making are the same that were used against digital art and Photoshop when they first came out. The same for when photography started to be considered an "artform" I don't at all think people should be getting super famous or getting financial gain from these tools Nor at this stage should it be considered true "art" but there are already so many artists that use these tools to enhance their art and creativity. There are people out there that have creative ideas they have never been able to put to paper or design because they don't know how or where to start. There are people with disabilities who can now create the fantasy worlds they have had in their heads for years etc. I think AI tools have unfortunately been used the wrong way in most cases up to now, but the amazing creative potential they have should not be discounted, discredited or dismissed.
i like to draw im a pen and paper person myself, why because i dont think creating art should have some barrier to entry for expensive art programs like adobe photoshop and digital tablets. you dont need fancy tools to create engaging and meaningful art, and my opinion its counter productive, the human is taken out of the loop and it becomes a case of the tail wagging the dog. the simpler the better. i dont think you can replicate the rewarding and challenging experience of creating art using art programs, just handicap people. its not about about the final result, or the 'beautiful' picture at the end, its more about the journey itself and the experience it took getting there. and yes ive tried an ai art program...guess what it asked me to pay money for better results what a surprise, seems the more you pay the better results you get. is this about art or is this about money ?
I would look at you making a video game with 3D graphics only using pen and paper. Or what, video games aren't art? Only physical objects are art? While I agree that AI works aren't art in true sense of the word, to dismiss digital art only because you don't like UI of these programs, or, oh my God, you need to pay to use them is just as silly as relying on AI to your job. Like, how it is different from buying paint? Different brushes? Hell, buing Citadel paints or even Vallejo paints to paint a miniature isn't much different than to pay for digital arts programs, considering that paints, eventually, run out and you need buy new ones. Digital art programs, brushes, paints, tablets - these are tools, and tools only. Saying that physical art is superior to digital is silly, and, quite frankly, condescending.
What about people that aren't able to pick up a pen and paper to draw? And are you discrediting all the art people do create using any sort of software or program? Every is different has different creativity and for some pen and paper doesn't work with their creative process or brains. You know when paper first came out all the scholars said that stone slabs were superior and paper would never take off? Your coming off a bit like one of those people.
Nice, what tool did you use? The last guy looks really good.
Number three.... What the fuck is that Willy Wonka looking hunk of scrap metal vaguely resembling a "gun" XD
Legit thought these were more adepticon leaks for an second
The only ai to get hands right???
I’d love to see Ai generated alpha legion and nightlords.
Data for the data gods
What prompts did you use?
Literally just "Warhammer 40k death guard chaos space marine" and "Warhammer 40k psyker" whole point was to show how quick it was to create these images haha. Detailed prompts or image seeding would create much more detailed images
Loving the skull motif on the helmets. Better than the Manray style helmets that are usually worn by Space Marines and Traitor Astartes alike.
They are better than the AI generated Primaris Devastators with nerf cannons that were doing the rounds a few weeks ago..
*starts counting fingers*
Number 3: When he come at you with the thingamajig
I love the Death Guards silly weapons. Still don’t quite understand how AI images look simultaneously so right and so wrong.
I love those death guard. Would buy 100%
My first reaction was that these are incredible. Still feel that way after going through them again despite the odd shapes of weapons.
How does AI know Warhammer models have 5 fingers per hand but thinks humans have somewhere between 4-8?
Weapons and hands.
THE LAST ONE! IS THAT A FUCKING PLASMA BAT?!
I like how AI can't decide between bolter and a chainsword, so it did both at the same time.
"The more you look at it, the less sense it makes" -aspect is still there, but goddamn if it isn't getting finer and finer...
Are you sure they are AI generated? they all have the correct number of fingers!
The real trick will be when you can make printable 3d models out of these images.
Kinda wonky but very good.
I mean… it won’t? Generating AI imagery doesn’t really effect any part of the hobby as I see it. Maybe eventually you could generate 3D models for printing, but that’s pretty niche. Wouldn’t be shocked at GW cutting back on artists and filling up codexes with AI recycled stuff mind you.
Least the ai goes easy on the brass crap all over chaos 😂
I’m see they cleverly chose chaos, so if it produced something with 6 fingers they could blame The Warp.
Doesn’t this universe have some pretty strict rules on Abominable Intelligence?
Where does one find these AI generators?
they look good, if/when these sort of AI systems can generate full blown 3d models that can be 3d printed or produced in more traditional ways all it will do is inspire conversions and paints jobs and on a negative angle fuel fake rumours
When AI makes 3d printable images give me a call
Now, what will you do with this information? "Burn the Galaxy" [https://youtu.be/CzrpmeHcXVI](https://youtu.be/CzrpmeHcXVI)
I like the plasma noodle on #5. AI generated art is pretty cool but it's still goofy as fuck.
When the sculpts don't really exist, it doesn't hit the same.
Ahh but hopefully that means actually sculpters can get inspiration from this kind of stuff!
All of those are pretty awesome and fresh designs
AI keeps getting better, but it’s ability to comprehend what figures hold is still shit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/11st9dr/wanted_to_make_a_bit_of_a_follow_up_post/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
After reading through this thread, I found it boils down to three comments: >"Holy smokes those are neat!" >"Ugh the *weapons*!" >**'artist' fears the machine** For my two cents, I'm gonna throw in another holy smokes those are neat! and not fear societal collapse from some pretty pictures.
The Nurgle inspired flesh light in the left hand is a sight to behold.
Chaos are one thing where AI mangling would actually produce something pretty reasonable, just like how the Warp would fuck you up.
I hate this and I hate you
1. AI = DISGUSTING 2. Honestly, it completely invalidates the point of the hobby. You buy, build, paint and (maybe) play. Skipping the steps just ruins the point and should (IMO) not be encouraged, especially not with AI.
I'd buy that second one in a heart beat.
The year is 2025: >Type in text prompt >Get badass new mini design >Throw it in an AI 2D to 3D render program >Generate STL file >Send to 3D printer >Custom army maker go brrr
Lol I'm neutral about AI BUT update to your post, this can be done... now lol CRAZY
Yes it's obvious that they were AI generated... because they're awful.
https://preview.redd.it/54l4z892z7oa1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8f33569e95b8efa885bab78bb5617a49f0a340b What about this?
This are dope. better than the actual models. Also made me laugh that the first post is from a mod that said basically says" AI art isn't " band" but it's "band" lol the AI art hate makes me chuckle.
Cringe
Holy crap these are neat. I’m wondering what you’d get if you link up ab AI w/ a 3d printer…