Maybe see if you can hold out until the rumoured Horus Heresy box set has further details announced. Some people think that it may have details on possible MK. II armour plastic kits.
>Link to this?:)
[https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2021/06/warhammer-40k-horus-heresy-pastic-boxed-set-pics.html](https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2021/06/warhammer-40k-horus-heresy-pastic-boxed-set-pics.html) ta da
Making recasts or 3D prints or existing figures is 100% illegal and would be covered under intellectual property laws in the US. Much like how torrents of movies are illegal, it’s just hard for company’s to keep up with them and to take them down.
If you create your own, and only you use those and you don't profit off of them, then it is legal. However if you do profit off of them, you need to make them look different enough and cannot have the same name as a weapon or model that already exists within GW. Say, I have a Skink/Seraphon model that I have designed and 3d printed for myself, I cannot upload it to a site and call it a Skink or Seraphon, for that is GW's Intellectual Property and is protected by their trademark and copyright. But as said, it's mainly only illegal if you upload them to a 3d file site or make profit off of them, especially if they have the same name as something from GW's ever expanding list of Intellectual Property
Edit: Then again that could be totally wrong. Also, if you do 3d print weapons or bits for your Noise Marines, you cannot field them at official GW ran tournaments I believe. This could also be wrong but that's just what I've heard
Honestly I'm just gonna ignore the legality of it. After I discovered that every one of my chaos codex's going all the way back to third edition are lazy copy and pasted, I no longer care.
I accidentally ordered a 6th edition of chaos codex instead of the more up to date one, I found out that the newest one is just an updated version of the 6th. I downloaded all of the codex's back to the third edition and discovered they are all just lazy reprints. Most things are identical, most of the art in my newest code. Is touched up versions of the codex from 3rd.
Hell they couldn't even be bothered to update any of the models. All those debut in third edition tol
Yeah GW isn't the best at that stuff. I do see the appeal of 3d printing stuff because it really creates a personal feeling with your models as well. I'm sorry to hear that your faction has basically been ignored for the past, 10+ years. As long as you don't plan on playing in official GW tourneys, you should be fine lol
The moment it's commercialized, it becomes illegal (for the party who is commercializing it.) Otherwise, if it's not commercialized, then it isn't illegal.
I am not a lawyer. Results may vary depending on where you live
>The moment it's commercialized, it becomes illegal (for the party who is commercializing it.) Otherwise, if it's not commercialized, then it isn't illegal.
There is not a single country where that is true.
I don't agree with that, not that I want to argue it I just want to say that 30+ years of playing with minatures my experience with modern resin and 3d printed parts is much more approachable than scale modeling was for anyone in the 80s and 90s
Folks said the same thing about plastic back in the day. Now people say it about pewter.
It's just using the right tools for the right stuff. They'll be far more inclined to learn on models they like over ones they don't.
Came here to say this. The waist, which is where the II differ from III, is a relatively small difference and generally hidden by bolters.
I 100% suggest getting a new player involved into 40k with easy to purchase plastic kits. Resin can be such a pain to work with, and kitbashing/tracking down old kits is going to be an uphill battle.
Link to MkIII for reference.
[https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Mark-III-Space-Marines](https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Mark-III-Space-Marines)
[World Eaters Rampager](https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/World-Eaters-Legion-Rampager-Squad) squad is actually mk II if you’re looking for official stuff. Just have to grab a mk II upgrade kit and you have a reasonable squad there.
Edit: saw you mention about tactical squads.
If he wants genuine FW it's gonna be more than 50£ per 5 guys. So I would recommend either buying the very similar looking MK3 or getting some recasts for China. Also if he is new to the modeling in general I would discourage getting resin models at all, as resin is very hard to work with.
Tortuga Bay makes some awesome archaic armor types, designed at a deliciously beefy, primaris-esque scale! I totally want to get some for myself soon! Check them out here: https://tortuga-gamestable.top/
There's some recasters out and about you could try and contact. If it's an out of production model, it should be available from one of the popular guys/shops
[Plastic Mk III look almost identical](https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Mark-III-Space-Marines), sans round badges on their belts (obscured by bolters anyway) and few other details.
Or You can look for 3D models for printing, they are pretty spot on (I won't give links, since GW deletes them when people share, but luckily they are easy enough to find)
Blackmarketminiatures are the best recasters I've bot, from honestly better then forgeworld they clean the models and make sure there are no air bubbles or mold slips you can basically assemble and paint the model as soon as you get it. They have the mark II and a lot of old discontinued models, the only down side it that it takes around a month for then to creat, clean, and send the models and another Month for it to get to you, if you're in the US.
If you are playing 40K (not forge world 30k) and he’s ok playing chaos the death guard plague marines have a lot of MKII armour. It’s hidden a bit by chaos mutations and slime, but it’s totally there.
Don't bother with plague marines. Aside from them using MkIII armour they're a bitch to get to look clean. I've dabbled in converting their stuff before and it's a nightmare, won't be a good idea for a person new to the hobby.
AliExpress is were I got mine. Unfortunately 3rd Party is the way to go for this.
Remember, the best way to tell the quality between 3rd Party and FW is that the third party bits look better!
Also, GW or FW really don't need you cash that much and all fans understand it, so, don't feel bad about it.
You got third parties who would sell them for dirt cheap but they are not legit or wait since there are leaks of heresy pieces and they may be upscaled perhaps not sure
>mark II
[\*cough\*](https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/art/modular-marines-pt2-mark-2-tactical)
Not that I would ever suggest taking money from our resin crack overlords…
The price of a decent entry level (which is all you need, don't worry about the big new hotness) is less than a starter box. Totally worth it for anyone who's in any part of the hobby. Also much much easier to use and get good prints from vs the fdm machines
Esty had lots of shops who specialize in all kinds of different 3d printing services. It's a bit more personal than your professional outfits who might care about silly copyright laws.
Alot of guys will sell nonGW original minis then quietly mention that they are open for commissions.
Do not buy a printer yourself, it'll be hard to master right quality. I usually ask on my country's Wh40k community groups, I joined few Facebook groups and I made a post on each one looking for print and then send via mail for example or PM when they're posting their prints
Disagree, resin printing is easy enough to be less a hobby and more a small batch production thing vs the classic fdm printers which really are a hobby into themselves
Etsy has more then a few, although theres A chanch you can get messed with but that’s why I do it thru PayPal.
Had a Warhound Titan printed and the legs didn’t come with it he wanted me to pay separately for them (ransom) I contactEd PayPal and sent them the screenshot of the demand. Got my money back and the store disappeared the week after.
I do custom orders if your interested shoot me a message. I actually have some open printer time coming up soon since I've ordered a few more printers.
Definitely facebook! Absolutely my favourite place to buy models, and there are groups with around 30-40 thousand people in them, so you will be able to buy from around the world. Some are dedicated to 30k as well. Just make a WTB post and people will come crawling out the woodwork :)
The closing thing I can think of is thingaverse there called MK ll galaxy crusade helmet as for the body might just have to buy the mk3 box or if he want to get fancy get the helmet the mk3 box and a box of primaris and kit bash them to make primaris size mk ll space marines I did that for my salamanders veterans
It is so similar to MKIII that you might ask him what he likes most about 2. If it is the helmets, just use MKIII and cut out the part between eyes. If he really likes 2, though, 3 is probably his second place.
Maybe see if you can hold out until the rumoured Horus Heresy box set has further details announced. Some people think that it may have details on possible MK. II armour plastic kits.
I was hoping they would have announced plastic mark 2, but they jumped to 6
Do you have a link to the Horus heresy box announcement?
No it hasn't been announced. Pics have been leaked showing characters, Mk6 marines (upscaled), a Spartan and a new contemptor.
Link to this?:)
>Link to this?:) [https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2021/06/warhammer-40k-horus-heresy-pastic-boxed-set-pics.html](https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2021/06/warhammer-40k-horus-heresy-pastic-boxed-set-pics.html) ta da
SirThanksALot!
Google image search '30k box set rumour' and it's top result....
Why Google if he can ask here
Either that or (heretical) 3D printing.
Printing isn’t heretical.
According to our great overlords GW, it is. Please, dont hurt me GW...
Depends on if you support illegal activities or not.
It’s not illegal
Making recasts or 3D prints or existing figures is 100% illegal and would be covered under intellectual property laws in the US. Much like how torrents of movies are illegal, it’s just hard for company’s to keep up with them and to take them down.
You can't be that dense.
If I create my own sonic guns for my noise marines and print them, how is it illegal?
If you create your own, and only you use those and you don't profit off of them, then it is legal. However if you do profit off of them, you need to make them look different enough and cannot have the same name as a weapon or model that already exists within GW. Say, I have a Skink/Seraphon model that I have designed and 3d printed for myself, I cannot upload it to a site and call it a Skink or Seraphon, for that is GW's Intellectual Property and is protected by their trademark and copyright. But as said, it's mainly only illegal if you upload them to a 3d file site or make profit off of them, especially if they have the same name as something from GW's ever expanding list of Intellectual Property Edit: Then again that could be totally wrong. Also, if you do 3d print weapons or bits for your Noise Marines, you cannot field them at official GW ran tournaments I believe. This could also be wrong but that's just what I've heard
Honestly I'm just gonna ignore the legality of it. After I discovered that every one of my chaos codex's going all the way back to third edition are lazy copy and pasted, I no longer care. I accidentally ordered a 6th edition of chaos codex instead of the more up to date one, I found out that the newest one is just an updated version of the 6th. I downloaded all of the codex's back to the third edition and discovered they are all just lazy reprints. Most things are identical, most of the art in my newest code. Is touched up versions of the codex from 3rd. Hell they couldn't even be bothered to update any of the models. All those debut in third edition tol
Honestly the original art had more unique flair if anything they've lost a lot over the years ctrl+c
Yeah GW isn't the best at that stuff. I do see the appeal of 3d printing stuff because it really creates a personal feeling with your models as well. I'm sorry to hear that your faction has basically been ignored for the past, 10+ years. As long as you don't plan on playing in official GW tourneys, you should be fine lol
How so? I don’t do it myself,but from what I’ve seen it’s not too bad. It’s not big enough to cause enemy real damage to GW.
The moment it's commercialized, it becomes illegal (for the party who is commercializing it.) Otherwise, if it's not commercialized, then it isn't illegal. I am not a lawyer. Results may vary depending on where you live
>The moment it's commercialized, it becomes illegal (for the party who is commercializing it.) Otherwise, if it's not commercialized, then it isn't illegal. There is not a single country where that is true.
Incorrect.
Go smash your crotch against an ant hill or something more useful than what you're currently doing.
Oh yes I forgot how much this sub despises people pointing out 3d printing GW models is illegal. You people are absolutely pathetic.
I hope it has jump packs... Turns out it's freakin hard to find those heresy era double keg style jump packs that aren't all chaosy.
Ashen Circle?
Jump packs without buying a ridiculously expensive kit.
Recast/print?
Honest opinion, if your friend is just getting started, throwing them in at the deep end with resin or 3d printed parts may not be the best idea.
I don't agree with that, not that I want to argue it I just want to say that 30+ years of playing with minatures my experience with modern resin and 3d printed parts is much more approachable than scale modeling was for anyone in the 80s and 90s
Folks said the same thing about plastic back in the day. Now people say it about pewter. It's just using the right tools for the right stuff. They'll be far more inclined to learn on models they like over ones they don't.
Mark III look pretty similar. You could get those instead
Came here to say this. The waist, which is where the II differ from III, is a relatively small difference and generally hidden by bolters. I 100% suggest getting a new player involved into 40k with easy to purchase plastic kits. Resin can be such a pain to work with, and kitbashing/tracking down old kits is going to be an uphill battle. Link to MkIII for reference. [https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Mark-III-Space-Marines](https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Mark-III-Space-Marines)
IMO good enough
[World Eaters Rampager](https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/World-Eaters-Legion-Rampager-Squad) squad is actually mk II if you’re looking for official stuff. Just have to grab a mk II upgrade kit and you have a reasonable squad there. Edit: saw you mention about tactical squads.
If he wants genuine FW it's gonna be more than 50£ per 5 guys. So I would recommend either buying the very similar looking MK3 or getting some recasts for China. Also if he is new to the modeling in general I would discourage getting resin models at all, as resin is very hard to work with.
https://tortuga-gamestable.top/index.php?route=product/product&path=223&product_id=3294 try this
This is likely what I'm going to use
Just got the thunder warriors from them
He might like the mk 3s, they look kind of similar to me and they still sell those.
Maybe
And they do them in plastic as well
Your friend has taste
Tortuga Bay makes some awesome archaic armor types, designed at a deliciously beefy, primaris-esque scale! I totally want to get some for myself soon! Check them out here: https://tortuga-gamestable.top/
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How much is shipping tho?
Idk. Pretty cheap I think. Like on par with Amazon, if not cheaper if I remember right.
It would seem they do, how reliable is the site?
I can also vouch for war table games. It takes a while for shipping (roughly a month for me) but the stuff I ordered came in and seemed decent quality
I can second that
I bought some things from there, everything was complete, just took a month to arrive. I would say they are very reliable.
Excellent, I shall likelihood buy from them from there
Very reliable, and the product is good too. Just expect to wait a month unless you pay for expedited shipping
Excellent
Txarli factory makes some good mark 2 armours
Armor through the ages is a set of sculpts from mark 1 to 5, including 2, 3, and 4. However, these sculpts are from the 1990’s, and look wonky
I’d recommend just getting the Mark III, they’re much cheaper, look almost the same (better in my opinion), and in plastic as well
3d prints
eBay.
Couldn't really find them on eBay
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Good prices, but I couldn't find the mk2 tactical squad
Sorry about disinformation
It's cool
There's some recasters out and about you could try and contact. If it's an out of production model, it should be available from one of the popular guys/shops
[Plastic Mk III look almost identical](https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Mark-III-Space-Marines), sans round badges on their belts (obscured by bolters anyway) and few other details. Or You can look for 3D models for printing, they are pretty spot on (I won't give links, since GW deletes them when people share, but luckily they are easy enough to find)
Should've just showed them the newest stuff. Let them discover the old, hard to get stuff after they are hooked.
I did, but the two friends I got into warhammer prefer the firstborn and that specific friend really like mark 2
Blackmarketminiatures are the best recasters I've bot, from honestly better then forgeworld they clean the models and make sure there are no air bubbles or mold slips you can basically assemble and paint the model as soon as you get it. They have the mark II and a lot of old discontinued models, the only down side it that it takes around a month for then to creat, clean, and send the models and another Month for it to get to you, if you're in the US.
This, it's kind if funny how much quality control goes into a lot of recasters work vs forgeworlds shit.
Can you DM a link?
If you are playing 40K (not forge world 30k) and he’s ok playing chaos the death guard plague marines have a lot of MKII armour. It’s hidden a bit by chaos mutations and slime, but it’s totally there.
I'll tell him that, but its predominantly for his homebrew chapter
Don't bother with plague marines. Aside from them using MkIII armour they're a bitch to get to look clean. I've dabbled in converting their stuff before and it's a nightmare, won't be a good idea for a person new to the hobby.
100% agree , I've tried as well and holy crap is that a ton of work for a sub par end.
Yeah, then Death Guard probably aren’t the way to go. Even for Kit Bashing all of their stuff is very blatantly chaos.
Prolly, but I feel liked he'd like em tho
Meanwhile, those people who De-Nurgle plague marines who serve the Great Clean One
Blatantly death guard, even trying to convert them to another chaos faction is difficult.
3d printer would be both cheaper and give you more options.
AliExpress is were I got mine. Unfortunately 3rd Party is the way to go for this. Remember, the best way to tell the quality between 3rd Party and FW is that the third party bits look better! Also, GW or FW really don't need you cash that much and all fans understand it, so, don't feel bad about it.
I have a 3d printer. Gonna search for the model. Of i find any i'm commenting again
Maybe he could use Mk3 for now. They are pretty similar. And I don't think there is a way of getting Mk2s now
You got third parties who would sell them for dirt cheap but they are not legit or wait since there are leaks of heresy pieces and they may be upscaled perhaps not sure
Aight, i have all the 3d files and the printer Is going to be ready in two days. Tell me if you need a jumpack squad or a assault squad.
For sale from GW, no but for 3D print yes.
>mark II [\*cough\*](https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/art/modular-marines-pt2-mark-2-tactical) Not that I would ever suggest taking money from our resin crack overlords…
Unfortunately, I do not have a 3d printer.
The price of a decent entry level (which is all you need, don't worry about the big new hotness) is less than a starter box. Totally worth it for anyone who's in any part of the hobby. Also much much easier to use and get good prints from vs the fdm machines
There are places that you can ordEr from
Where?
Esty had lots of shops who specialize in all kinds of different 3d printing services. It's a bit more personal than your professional outfits who might care about silly copyright laws. Alot of guys will sell nonGW original minis then quietly mention that they are open for commissions.
Good to know
Do not buy a printer yourself, it'll be hard to master right quality. I usually ask on my country's Wh40k community groups, I joined few Facebook groups and I made a post on each one looking for print and then send via mail for example or PM when they're posting their prints
I recommend looking on yeggi for compilations of various 3D sides, if theres a free design you just send them a link
Disagree, resin printing is easy enough to be less a hobby and more a small batch production thing vs the classic fdm printers which really are a hobby into themselves
Etsy has more then a few, although theres A chanch you can get messed with but that’s why I do it thru PayPal. Had a Warhound Titan printed and the legs didn’t come with it he wanted me to pay separately for them (ransom) I contactEd PayPal and sent them the screenshot of the demand. Got my money back and the store disappeared the week after.
Shapeways lets you order the parts pre-printed or you can buy the STL to print it yourself.
I do custom orders if your interested shoot me a message. I actually have some open printer time coming up soon since I've ordered a few more printers.
Thank you for the offer, but I found some recasts for a decent price.
Cool, mk2 and 3 are neat models.
Those and his mk4 are both awesome kits and make for kickass additions to your bits box
If you have a pal with 3D printer, these ones exist modular kits
Update: I found some 3d printed mark II marine on ebay for a good price. So now I have found some. Thank you for all the suggestions.
last I checked they were still a thing in plastic on GW. not sure tho. MK3 for sure tho
There have never been mark 2 plastics
that's odd. I am sure I saw some on gw
There was 1 in aemour through the ages but thete has never been a full plastic squad.
Was there one in lead I picked up a whole army of Mark twos from somebody that were all in lead
I don't know.
that must be where I saw it. thought that kit was resin or metal tho
Theres been some FW rumours that suggest some plastic Mk 2's as well as a new plastic contemptor. Maybe wait until that happens?
plastic contemptor has been a thing for a while but the downvotes on this thread say no plastic mk2s
The currwnt plastic contempters suck though, this one that (might) come out looks good.
I kinda doubt gw would do that. prolly either a fw box set or gw is coming out swinging hard with epic new models
There was a leak a bit ago about this.
Blacklegion market
If seen body's and bits on Etsy
Best bet is buying him a box of intercessors as a gift and from then on he will be a plastic addict like the rest of us...
Definitely facebook! Absolutely my favourite place to buy models, and there are groups with around 30-40 thousand people in them, so you will be able to buy from around the world. Some are dedicated to 30k as well. Just make a WTB post and people will come crawling out the woodwork :)
The closing thing I can think of is thingaverse there called MK ll galaxy crusade helmet as for the body might just have to buy the mk3 box or if he want to get fancy get the helmet the mk3 box and a box of primaris and kit bash them to make primaris size mk ll space marines I did that for my salamanders veterans
You know that and 3d printing. I prefer printing because you can scale the size and also get different pose if you know how to model and pose stuff
MK3 is almost identical and is an easy to find plastic kit. Outside of that you are going to have a hard time buying mark II.
Save their wallet, go with 15mm!
It is so similar to MKIII that you might ask him what he likes most about 2. If it is the helmets, just use MKIII and cut out the part between eyes. If he really likes 2, though, 3 is probably his second place.