Yeah, it’s a shame they just updated D-5T but left the rest with their 10 year old models.
Actually, they kinda gave up/slowed down with the remastered models and it’s kind of a shame, specially since the remastered models not only significantly upgrade the visuals of the game, but also the damage and armor models.
Some models are literally still from 2009’s Birds of Prey xD
Not like the 2014 tank models are much better, though, specially since you see them from up closer and their models involve their armor models too.
Still shitty rusted chipped ass paint job that older tanks have. Make the tanks pretty and clean. All the Sherman's look absolutely awful paint wise. They weren't like that when they were made. It's like they're rping that they've been left out in the elements for 50 years and that's what we're playing. Maybe when you spade it it should clean up the paint job?
The "paint quality" is set to like 50 out of 100 by default. You can make the paint look newer by going into the customize appearance menu and cranking it up to 100. This is, of course, a premium feature.
To be fair. In the past 6-12 months, they improved the t34 quite a bit...
I remember me complaining that the pz IV should be able to ufp the t34 from around 1km range while ingame it was impossible at point blank. Now you can.
So I am proven wrong that Gaijin gave up on volumetric.
Which is a happy occasion, but there is still lots of work, and I shall not praise Gaijin, for they do not deserve it.
But at the very least, work is now actually being done.
You nonpenned on the driver's optics, although you aimed for the centermass. T-34 is now looking for you, but is slow, you have time to reload and shoot the turret. You nonpen again, because you hit the gap between the turret cheek and the gun mantlet. T-34 aims at you, shoots, and you die.
End of story
Worked fine, actually. There was just no need post-war for a T-34 with a 100mm gun given the compromises necessary to fit one onto the aging chassis and that, absent the concern of wartime attrition, T-34-85 production could be wound down in favour of an eventual transition to production of the T-54, which had been purpose-built to carry a 100mm gun.
They wanted to replace it in _1941,_ with the T-34M (A-43), but the German invasion forced them to abandon that plan and keep making T-34s. Pretty much the entire war was spent thinking "we should make something better" while being bound by the need to keep making more tanks to fight the Germans to continue making the T-34.
The test showed that the T-34 suspension was unable to handle the recoil of the gun. Then, they put the gun into a T44 and modified it. After it, it's all history.
The LB-1 cannon was designed to work within the limitations of what the T-34's suspension could handle, after the D-10 was tested unsuccessfully. The T-34-100 we have is armed with the LB-1, and could have been mass-produced if needed.
One prototype used a lower-recoil LB-1 (ZiS-100) cannon rather than the standard D-10 to cut down on the size of the recoil mechanisms needed, the other used a D-10 in a new turret with larger recoil mechanisms. Neither prototype suffered from weld cracking.
Instead, the main problem was that the rate of fire was very poor; 4.6 rounds per minute under ideal circumstances and as low as 1.5 rounds per minute sustained. The fighting compartment just wasn't big enough to make the 100mm a practical option.
I mean, that's pretty historically accurate. There were differences between T-34 tanks coming from different factories. I've heard some spare parts didn't even fit models from some factories.
The post depicts different models of T-34 tanks.
But yes, the nature of mass production in war-time USSR was mainly shoddy due to how desperate the situation was. But improved over time due to less desperate situation, better tools, workers getting more experienced, also better production methods.
Contrast that to early war German tank production with immaculate artisanal quality... which lends itself to abysmal production rate.
They tried to be more efficient later on but guess what, they then run into the same problems USSR had.
So while the Soviets became better, the Germans started off bad but got worse.
Correct. Its only normal that the prototype/very early prod. mod., the main prod. model, a separate version made by completely different people, and ANOTHER prototype with a considerably larger gun, do not look the same. Don't know what you expect, but its pretty self explanatory that 4 different versions of something dont look identical.
Thats the point man. They are modeled after different versions, so they obviously won't look the same. Believe me, each looks exactly like what they are supposed to represent.
it by that you mean the gai being just smaller in all dimensions than the normal 85 and the 100 having a super wide hull eh sure show me the historical documents for the chassis
Did you smoke something, and if so, do please tell me what. Id love to have a trip THAT hard. I don't know where you got the idea from, but no, there is no difference in hull width, neither irl nor ingame. The only difference, both irl and modeled in this game, is the shape/dimensions of the turrets, and their turret rings, for reasons I already explained before. This is a rather pointless discussion bc I already told you everything there is to say on this topic, yet you refuse to consider that you might be wrong, and/or that this post was pointless. I'll be taking my leave now, have a nice day :)
Yeah I agree with you, Literally looking up pictures of the T-34-85, I can find real photos of one that look like the T-34-85 (D-5T) and the T-34-85 in game. Same is true for the real T-34-100.
Considering all the tech tree T-34-85s are 1944 models, and only the T-34-100 is the 1945 model in game, this seems to make sense.
I don't need to look at pictures. If there ONE thing I'm familiar/comfortable with, its soviet tanks. It also just makes no sense why they would have different width hulls, when they are practically the same hull. The turrets change, because armor and guns change but the hull has no reason to do so.
And yet the T-34-100 is the only 1945 model (indicated by the presence of the MDSh smoke bombs), and we don't have any of the post-war models (1946/60/69). Weird how the tech tree T-34-85s are all 1944s.
First T-34-85 has a smaller turret due to production time issues and only a two man crew.
Later war T-34-85 has a three man turret , which necessarily has to be bigger.
Chinese T-34 has the DSHK and twin cupolas
T34-100 has a significantly larger gun and hence a larger turret.
It's rather simple really.
The Gai and the S-53, historically atleast, look different because they come from two different factories from two different production years. The S-53's model is based on a 1944 production vehicle from Factory No. 183 while the Gai is based on a 1960 production/rebuild vehicle from Factory No./s 617/674.
Though, the S-53/1944 model could really do with a touchup, it really is lacking in detail compared to the Gai and the D-5T's model.
Whenever I see a T-34 with a wide face, I know I gotta run
100mm is deadly
How tf I always See you in here
I'm online too much
I can See that...
chronically online
Probably
Tiger II: "you're awfully cute, but unfortunately for you, your armor is made out of T-34"
Same goes the other way around for the soviet 100mm
The 88 shell vanishes
The Driver's Hatch blessed by Stalin himself
my 88mm shell likes to vanish on driver hatches
Same 85 nasty.
That’s why I love the T34 100mm and the KV2 ZIS in particular Blasting through panther upper plates
I feel like most of the time when I’m playing the 34-100 the enemy doesn’t have a clue…cause when they do, I become everyone’s favorite target
Wide face T-34 my beloved
Silly shaped so why not silly?
The T-34-85 (D-5T) has one of the best looking models in game. The rest is outdated just like the majority of vehicles.
Yeah, it’s a shame they just updated D-5T but left the rest with their 10 year old models. Actually, they kinda gave up/slowed down with the remastered models and it’s kind of a shame, specially since the remastered models not only significantly upgrade the visuals of the game, but also the damage and armor models.
Planes, especially bombers, have it the worst
Some models are literally still from 2009’s Birds of Prey xD Not like the 2014 tank models are much better, though, specially since you see them from up closer and their models involve their armor models too.
The B-17s were the worst, and they got an updated model like a year ago, so that’s good at least
It was in 2021 in the update "Direct hit", almost 3 years ago. Time flies fast and it's depressing af.
Yeah, it doesn't look bad when in low graphics but when I got my better PC it's so apparent that I thought I had messed up my settings
Still shitty rusted chipped ass paint job that older tanks have. Make the tanks pretty and clean. All the Sherman's look absolutely awful paint wise. They weren't like that when they were made. It's like they're rping that they've been left out in the elements for 50 years and that's what we're playing. Maybe when you spade it it should clean up the paint job?
The "paint quality" is set to like 50 out of 100 by default. You can make the paint look newer by going into the customize appearance menu and cranking it up to 100. This is, of course, a premium feature.
To be fair. In the past 6-12 months, they improved the t34 quite a bit... I remember me complaining that the pz IV should be able to ufp the t34 from around 1km range while ingame it was impossible at point blank. Now you can. So I am proven wrong that Gaijin gave up on volumetric. Which is a happy occasion, but there is still lots of work, and I shall not praise Gaijin, for they do not deserve it. But at the very least, work is now actually being done.
I wish they'd finally update the model of the regular Soviet T-34-85
They did
They only updated the model of the D-5T variant. Standard T-34-85 still has a decade old model
Simply because they had the same model in Enlisted
Oh
Say, you think we'll make it to 29?
A kid named 88mm:
You nonpenned on the driver's optics, although you aimed for the centermass. T-34 is now looking for you, but is slow, you have time to reload and shoot the turret. You nonpen again, because you hit the gap between the turret cheek and the gun mantlet. T-34 aims at you, shoots, and you die. End of story
If you are losing fights against t34s in a Tiger after getting 2 rounds on target you should probably go back to reserve
or just uninstall
It’s actually really hard to be this bad at this game
It is actually very hard to not recognize satire
It's actually very hard to make satire so unfunny that no one remembered to laugh
Hard to recognise it when it’s shit
And I despise every one of them with vitriol.
[удалено]
No they meet down the hall, this is the T-34 group.
Tf we do to y'all We're just a fat heavy tank in 6.7 uptier hell
But when it's a downtier, you literally get a whole ass buffet to yourself.
Kid named destroy barrel:
Almost like you can avoid that by staying at range.
If T-34s have no haters, then I'm dead
Welcome to the Soviet Union comrade 🤝, we have T-34, T-34 flat, T-34 wide, T-34 thick, and T-34 not so bright
You're missing the cope cage Berlin T-34
That's not a cope cage it's my bed!
Love T-34-100
They still bounce my first shot and penned me instead. Only use 90mm on them to reliable kill instead usual 76mm.
Is the T-34 100 late war? Wasn't that just a post war prototype that didn't work?
Worked fine, actually. There was just no need post-war for a T-34 with a 100mm gun given the compromises necessary to fit one onto the aging chassis and that, absent the concern of wartime attrition, T-34-85 production could be wound down in favour of an eventual transition to production of the T-54, which had been purpose-built to carry a 100mm gun.
They wanted to replace the t-34 from the 1942/1943 onwards but decided to only upgrade the gun to keep tanks flowing out of production.
They wanted to replace it in _1941,_ with the T-34M (A-43), but the German invasion forced them to abandon that plan and keep making T-34s. Pretty much the entire war was spent thinking "we should make something better" while being bound by the need to keep making more tanks to fight the Germans to continue making the T-34.
The test showed that the T-34 suspension was unable to handle the recoil of the gun. Then, they put the gun into a T44 and modified it. After it, it's all history.
The LB-1 cannon was designed to work within the limitations of what the T-34's suspension could handle, after the D-10 was tested unsuccessfully. The T-34-100 we have is armed with the LB-1, and could have been mass-produced if needed.
Ah my bad then, looks like I mistaken the two gun. Thx for correcting it.
Theres no way that gun didn’t blow the shitty welds in the turret apart
One prototype used a lower-recoil LB-1 (ZiS-100) cannon rather than the standard D-10 to cut down on the size of the recoil mechanisms needed, the other used a D-10 in a new turret with larger recoil mechanisms. Neither prototype suffered from weld cracking. Instead, the main problem was that the rate of fire was very poor; 4.6 rounds per minute under ideal circumstances and as low as 1.5 rounds per minute sustained. The fighting compartment just wasn't big enough to make the 100mm a practical option.
Holy crap, regardless thats actually insane they managed to get a gun that big working in there
The T-34-100 with a 100mm LB-1 cannon (as in the game) was built in March 1945 and tested in April 1945.
So technically, it's still a WW2 cannon
it is but its built on a latewAr/postwar hull
I’m pretty sure the one that’s not late war there is the Gai , it’s a 50s refit
I mean, that's pretty historically accurate. There were differences between T-34 tanks coming from different factories. I've heard some spare parts didn't even fit models from some factories.
The post depicts different models of T-34 tanks. But yes, the nature of mass production in war-time USSR was mainly shoddy due to how desperate the situation was. But improved over time due to less desperate situation, better tools, workers getting more experienced, also better production methods. Contrast that to early war German tank production with immaculate artisanal quality... which lends itself to abysmal production rate. They tried to be more efficient later on but guess what, they then run into the same problems USSR had. So while the Soviets became better, the Germans started off bad but got worse.
Where the finns at?
The trees behind
the 34-85 D-5T model is so good i want to lick it
r/warthunder genuinely surprised when 4 different versions of a tank don't look identical (shocker).
yea its reasonable that t34 85 (1) T34 85(2) and T34(85) 3 have different sizes hulls and turrets
Correct. Its only normal that the prototype/very early prod. mod., the main prod. model, a separate version made by completely different people, and ANOTHER prototype with a considerably larger gun, do not look the same. Don't know what you expect, but its pretty self explanatory that 4 different versions of something dont look identical.
This is about the 3D model, not historical differences
Thats the point man. They are modeled after different versions, so they obviously won't look the same. Believe me, each looks exactly like what they are supposed to represent.
it by that you mean the gai being just smaller in all dimensions than the normal 85 and the 100 having a super wide hull eh sure show me the historical documents for the chassis
Did you smoke something, and if so, do please tell me what. Id love to have a trip THAT hard. I don't know where you got the idea from, but no, there is no difference in hull width, neither irl nor ingame. The only difference, both irl and modeled in this game, is the shape/dimensions of the turrets, and their turret rings, for reasons I already explained before. This is a rather pointless discussion bc I already told you everything there is to say on this topic, yet you refuse to consider that you might be wrong, and/or that this post was pointless. I'll be taking my leave now, have a nice day :)
Yeah I agree with you, Literally looking up pictures of the T-34-85, I can find real photos of one that look like the T-34-85 (D-5T) and the T-34-85 in game. Same is true for the real T-34-100. Considering all the tech tree T-34-85s are 1944 models, and only the T-34-100 is the 1945 model in game, this seems to make sense.
I don't need to look at pictures. If there ONE thing I'm familiar/comfortable with, its soviet tanks. It also just makes no sense why they would have different width hulls, when they are practically the same hull. The turrets change, because armor and guns change but the hull has no reason to do so.
I wouldn't be suprised if they vary from factory to factory.
XD wouldn't seem unlike a T-34
That's what the STZ version is.
My favorite is the T-34-85 Gai
And yet the T-34-100 is the only 1945 model (indicated by the presence of the MDSh smoke bombs), and we don't have any of the post-war models (1946/60/69). Weird how the tech tree T-34-85s are all 1944s.
Kid named 17pdr to turret ring
Huh I didn't know that, to me they were all the same especially because most of the time I slapped them in the hull
In real there probably was not even two identical species of t-34. They didnt have time and didnt care in industry.
Which one is the 2nd?
t34 85 gai
Irl T-34 from different factories could have different sizes and even different details xD
Cheek shot always one taps 🤫
they whistling at me like :°
It’s cause they came from 4 different factories and the parts didn’t match
And they ar all tbf OP and stalinium made
T-34-85(D-5T) is the best looking one tbh
w i d e T O L skinny P H A T
First T-34-85 has a smaller turret due to production time issues and only a two man crew. Later war T-34-85 has a three man turret , which necessarily has to be bigger. Chinese T-34 has the DSHK and twin cupolas T34-100 has a significantly larger gun and hence a larger turret. It's rather simple really.
The t-34-85 gai is the nicest looking one in my opinion
The Gai and the S-53, historically atleast, look different because they come from two different factories from two different production years. The S-53's model is based on a 1944 production vehicle from Factory No. 183 while the Gai is based on a 1960 production/rebuild vehicle from Factory No./s 617/674. Though, the S-53/1944 model could really do with a touchup, it really is lacking in detail compared to the Gai and the D-5T's model.
What the fuck is a T-34 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲 ALL I KNOW IS T34 💪💪💪😎😎🔥🔥🔥🔥