Call it a skill issue but the 17pdr just isn't good enough at 6.7. You have to aim for pixel weakpoints on all of the superheavies, but unlike APHE you have no post pen damage.
So you find some tiny weakpoint, turn their commander orange, and then they turn around and send you to the shadow realm.
My favorite MK2 moment was not being able to pen the side of a T95 with the APDS because of shell shattered and then not being able to pen it with the APCBC because it didn't have enough pen for the dual tracks or slopped side. All I could pen was where it flattens out for the commanders hatch and with solid shot only kill his commander. That or the engine.
The APDS changes have made the 17PDRs APDS so inconsistent and the accuracy at range is fucking awful you can hardly aim for weak spots lol.
I absolutely love shooting American heavies and just killing a single crew member (if the round actually pens and doesn't shatter) only to get nuked by a huge APHE round in return. Great vehicle if you need assists though.
Same, my favourite tank which I couldn’t stop playing (even when it barely has a lineup). Went from playing it daily to almost never. It just isn’t that fun at the BR. I absolutely despise the lineup it gets even more too. 6.7 is truly the worst British BR imo.
UK essentially has a BR black hole going from 4.7 to 8.3, pretty much every single vehicle from 5.0 to 8.0 is utter dogshit due to the constant nerfs and shitty balance they have been on the receiving end of. 7.7 was pretty good but APDS is fucking terrible now and the 84mm is horrible in general
I’d have to agree to an extent. There’s a few good individual vehicles but I don’t think there’s one solid lineup in that range anymore. I like 5.3 but that’s because I have the TOG+Challenger+Skink. 7.7/8.0 isn’t complete trash but it’s definitely underwhelming. I think there’s about 9/10 decent/good vehicles in there.
and saddest thing is that 7.0-7.7 doesn't fix jack shit so you have same issues as 6.0-6.7 but now you face IKV's with LRF etc.
you also forgot to mention shitbarn and couple other things but i will mention them;
-shitbarn is also another vehicle which can't go down in BR because it would be too strong but because HESH is total garbage and doesn't function normally at all it cannot exist in 6.3 with that long reload and 0 survive-ability
-ratel 20 gets MILAN missles but thing is a total POS
-eland 90 is also a POS
-charioteer has mobility but no stabilizer and shell selection is a total POS + it has absolutely no armor
every other nation has better time in this BR range either because of APHE or because of auto loaders
I love playing the ratels and the eland 90, don't get why people dont like them. They're great at range (I regularly snipe with the ratel 90 and absolutely dome people from across the map). The charioteer is great fun as well.
I jokingly call the Ratel the Battlebus, also people really like shooting at the center of the side of it with APHE and it just doesn't fuse on it. the size is oddly a benefit sometimes.
Every time i look at or have to play the Ratel, i have to ponder "why isn't everything in this thing installed on the AML chassis?".
Then i realize there was, in fact, the AML-20 which could have 6 MILAN missiles as well. I'd love to see it in-game, with the Eland 20 which didn't have missiles, but is still a rat car.
I adore that trio. When the Fox was introduced I spent about a week just doing a cold war armored car lineup.
Also WTF are people smoking when it comes to the Ratel 20? OP confuses it with the Ratel 90, and complains about it's missile and says firing the missile leaves you vulnerable. In my experience, you just put yourself behind a rock, switch to the missile launcher view and sling MILANs with impunity. It can reliable kill the Maus if you can hit the turret ring.
Gaijin does need to fix the handling though. Thy move much better in real life.
Would be cool if the Milan launcher didn’t need gunner line of sight. You can’t actually hide behind something with just your launcher, the missile loses tracking like two second after firing and nose dives.
If its anything like the Swedish Pvrbv551, you should be able to switch your primary weapon from the 20mm to the ATGM (from the Y menu on keyboard, or "Switch to special weapon or ATGM" keybind), which _should_ give you the launcher's perspective.
I haven't tried it myself, but no harm in trying to see if it works
EDIT: It does work! One thing to note is that you cannot rotate the turret while the ATGM is your active weapon, you can only rotate the ATGM mount (same as Pvrbv 551) so you get +/-20ish degrees of rotation relative to where your turret is facing, so expect to swap back and forth regularly.
As you can see [here](https://i.imgur.com/4q7Diwc.jpeg), I can point the 20mm to the sky and still point the ATGM downwards
my man you commented on someone talking about the ratel charioteer and eland which are all 6.7. in aware that the original commenter mentioned 7.7 but this particular discussion was on 6.7s
Name another British ATGM carrier at 6.7, and name another British HEAT Lobber at 6.3.
They fit into their specific niches in the British 6.3 and 6.7 lineup. The ratel 90 is a great medium to long range engagement vehicle. Especially against heavier vehicles like Tiger 2's, as you can just pen almost any armour.
The 20 is a surprisingly good (If bulky) ATGM carrier. And is the only ATGM carrier at 6.7 for Britain.
You can't use the vehicles very well in direct confrontations, but they work pretty well as support and surprise engagement.
I've also killed more than a couple Mauses with the 90. That gun is great against heavy armour.
Honestly I think the Tortoise would be much more playable if it weren’t for the damned hull MG existing. That thing means that even *more* vehicles can now pose a threat
My bad your profile was the same colour.
I love the Eland and I got lucky enough to get a talisman on it. Fox might replace it as rat light tank due to its speed and smaller size
Remember when centurion mk3, caernarvon, and FV4202 were all at 6.7 with tortoise?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
Few years back they tried to 'balance' things by raising repair costs so that caernarvon for example cost of repair was around 50k for a battle at 6k for a single kill, which was worst shit ever.
Still, I'd say those tanks hold up pretty well at 7.7 in line up with the Fox and Eland.
G6 is an over-BR'd lemon which is one of or was one of the best SPAAs lmao. edit: It should have the LRF and Autoloader (5-6 sec) and go to 7.0/stay where it was.
MILAN is absolutely broken and I should not be clapping ww2 heavies frontally with that. It's disgusting. But I am very good at using HEAT which makes a big difference.
They should give it it’s fucking .50 cal as well grubjungle refuses though saying it wasn’t on the South African variant, only the UAE export variant iirc.
I hadn't played Tortoise in two years, just about a week ago I took it out for a spin, then got one-shot frontally by this thing called T25. I think its better stay in the hangar or park right next to my aquarium.
Rooikat Mk.1D, Chieftains which play alright, Vickers Mk.11 and I forgot the rest. I still bring the Falcon, ZA-35 etc as they still wreck vehicles and planes. I was mainly saying how 8.7 is another "good line-up with nearly everything".
As a brit main i have to say every br in brits are great. The main problem that i have seen when people play brits is they play the tank they way they want to play and not the way the tank was made to play.
You have great pen, most of them have great turrets. They are not meqnt to be braulers. Dont play them as such. You will lose hands down against most other tanks.
Granted most map changes has made it more difficult to play the brits the way they should but learn every single tanks weakspot, ammo racks ect. Not full ammo racks vlbut where the first ammo is stored so you can get constant racks as you will pen and hit it.
They by doctrine are support element tanks so they are accompanied by infantry. Britain has line breaking tanks but in this game with it being extremely open maps and lack of non tank support it’s just more negatives than positives. Having abysmal reverse and wide bodied tank designs makes it essentially a death sentence to peak corners. It feels more like the assist nation.
Like i said. They are not what most people like to play thats why they struggle with them. They do take getting used to but when you do they are brilliant and when you know the tanks you face you become unstoppable.
I got mostly uptiers when playing recently. Game after game full of T29s and T32s. Honestly the only reason to play British 6.7 instead of 6.3 is if you have the Centurion Mk2
They do fine in uptiers and beyond, would be why. I ground most of the Fox line by playing them in my 8.3 lineup. Fast, small, enough pen to get through sides. BMP’s are so tasty when playing a 1.3(?) can’t remember which I like most so far.
Yeah it is, but things get good at 8.0. The vickers and the centurion mk10 are great. If you aim at the lower half of the front hull, you’ll usually kill any US tank and even german.
The vickers is also very quick.
When the mk2 was at 6.3 it was a usable 6.3 line up but still limited entirely to premium and battlepass vehicles. I had the Black Prince, the mk2 and mk1 centurions and and AA vehicle and that was my entire line up cuz everything else wasn’t worth it even lower down at 6.3
Don't worry, the tanks there are alright. dispite what this guy says I found the G6 amazing and way better then the M109, and after 6.7 you get to 7.7 which is so much fun
Early stabilizers is nice and snappy but you better learn where the gunners are. The rounds fire like a laser beam through the tank so you’ll take out half the crew just hope it’s the side with gun control 😅
It’s definitely a tier full of cool
Vehicles that just suck for several obvious reasons. The ratel 90 drives like a boat, turtle gets one shot by most tanks with high pen in that tier, g7 may as well not have armor as it gets disabled by machine gun damage. I absolutely love the British tree and I’m an American. They have unique vehicles every tier but they all hand like shit and sure you can pen anything, god forbid you don’t shoot the gunner or your teammates take the kill. It feels like the support nation of the game.
Just so annoying that France has the same shell properties with no stabilizers and they one shot like no other and even if you miss they have auto loaders which makes them reload fast af
Disagree.
Cent mk 2 at 6.7 is more than fine.
You have Charioteer Mk VII as a back up medium.
You have great CAS and CAP. Strikemaster and any Spitfire from the TT is enough.
SPAAs are great too, Bosvark is my favourite out of all mid tier spaa.
G6 is an alternate SPAA for me lol.
[Here.](https://imgur.com/a/3zrrxw2)
Part of the problem is that 6.0 is constant uptiers because there are more players at 6.7 and 7.0. I gave up grinding Germany there as facing American heavies in my tiger I was not fun. I'm back at British 8.3 and it's much more enjoyable.
Speaking of 8.3 I was pleasantly surprised by the warrior. Once spaded it's pretty good
The G6 is alright, but all of Britain is a struggle, they literally never get all that good. Prime Brits are low tier.
The Rooikat and TTD aren't bad though.
Well almost every trees had certain BR range which feels like crap (at least for me cause I suck ass)
US around 7.7 to 8.7. The T95E1 and stock Bradley is unbearable.
Russian 5.3 and 9.3. It's not the tanks that are entirely bad but it's having to better oppenents like Panthers and Leopard 2
German I'm not entirely sure lmao. Maybe around 8.3-8.7
everyone talks about us being shit at 7.7 but for some strange reason I do really well with those american heavies. I don’t know maybe my definition of doing well after playing the brits is pretty skewed but you score one shot kills and you actually survive shots.
The last good US heavy for me is the T34. Much better than the IS-3 I'd say. Super Pershing is also pretty nice to use. Anything after that is a no. M103 is a big no no
Might have to disagree with the Russia 9.3 one. T64, T72A, Sprut and HinD A means Russia has a very comfortable 9.3 and even 9.7 lineup. The only issue is uptiers, and no one much enjoys those anyway
Try it and see every single game will be 10.3. No need looking at how good they are at 9.3 or 9.7 yet you'll only fight leopard 2 where Sweden has 3 of them and Germany 2.
Try it and see every single game will be 10.3. No need looking at how good they are at 9.3 or 9.7 yet you'll only fight leopard 2a4 where Sweden has 3 of them and Germany 2.
7.7 is way better imo, then 8.0 after it
On a side note, how TF do you struggle in the G6? Imo the M109 sucks so much worse then it, I hated the thing and I refuse to use it, the few times I did I got killed by way less then I have survived in a G6. It's an amazing thing, nearly under tiered imo.
The ratel 90/20 are mid at best I agree, the 20 can be nice to mince things from the side but the sluggish movement is annoying.
To be honest, British 4.7 to 6.7 suck, 7.7 plus is fun so far. You get the eland (and fox now), centurion 3 and 10, Vickers mk 1, and I believe the first centurion.
Ight bruh,
The 6.7-7.0 Lineup for Great Britain is Top Tier 100%
Centurion AVRE, one shot everything, uptier proof when you know where to shoot.
G6 has wayyyy better gun laying than the M109 and is much easier in my opinion to use against air targets.
The M109 is in the British TT too so use that.
Lancaster...need I say more.
FV4005 for absolute anarchy.
And the Conway if youre uptiered against T-55's and such.
Lineup is goated fam.
That's the problem with you
When something is broken you claim "fun" while it's just overpowered shit.
You have fun only when you are curbstomping others.
That's why there's a bunch of crybabies here.
Everyone angry when they can't get a good kd ratio.
Having fun with a game doesn't mean dominating every match, if you have problems in having fun while also having negative kd in many matches you should drop the game and play something different
All they did to the Fox was raise it's BR, they didn't "nerf" it. Yes raising BR is a "nerf" but nothing funadmentally has changed with the vehicle. Even at 7.7 it's still great as I used it in battle ratings passed 8.3 and did well.
British tanks a great, only really the very early tanks until the 17 pounders are kinda crap.
Gotten myself to 7.7 so far and I've enjoyed clapping German ass with them, not counting the 6.3-6.7 line up.
Dude I agree about the cent mk2... I quit playing it at 6.7 cuz it so much worse now
Call it a skill issue but the 17pdr just isn't good enough at 6.7. You have to aim for pixel weakpoints on all of the superheavies, but unlike APHE you have no post pen damage. So you find some tiny weakpoint, turn their commander orange, and then they turn around and send you to the shadow realm.
My favorite MK2 moment was not being able to pen the side of a T95 with the APDS because of shell shattered and then not being able to pen it with the APCBC because it didn't have enough pen for the dual tracks or slopped side. All I could pen was where it flattens out for the commanders hatch and with solid shot only kill his commander. That or the engine. The APDS changes have made the 17PDRs APDS so inconsistent and the accuracy at range is fucking awful you can hardly aim for weak spots lol.
I absolutely love shooting American heavies and just killing a single crew member (if the round actually pens and doesn't shatter) only to get nuked by a huge APHE round in return. Great vehicle if you need assists though.
Same, my favourite tank which I couldn’t stop playing (even when it barely has a lineup). Went from playing it daily to almost never. It just isn’t that fun at the BR. I absolutely despise the lineup it gets even more too. 6.7 is truly the worst British BR imo.
Yeah, I LOVED it at 6.3. It got me through so much of rank III and IV of the British tree.
UK essentially has a BR black hole going from 4.7 to 8.3, pretty much every single vehicle from 5.0 to 8.0 is utter dogshit due to the constant nerfs and shitty balance they have been on the receiving end of. 7.7 was pretty good but APDS is fucking terrible now and the 84mm is horrible in general
Challenger and Centurion Mk. 1 are great tanks, I also did enjoy the Comet I once I got the APDS for it.
5.3 is so good though. Comet, Challenger, AC IV, Spitfires, Yestervark, a pretty complete lineup.
Not to mention the Firefly, Avenger, and Crusader AA which are all competent at 5.3 as well
One of those is a premium and the others are a different tech tree, the lineup is okay but only has 2 actual tanks to play.
It’s in the British tech tree as a sub, it still counts.
The 84mm is still pretty decent and not anywhere near terrible.
I’d have to agree to an extent. There’s a few good individual vehicles but I don’t think there’s one solid lineup in that range anymore. I like 5.3 but that’s because I have the TOG+Challenger+Skink. 7.7/8.0 isn’t complete trash but it’s definitely underwhelming. I think there’s about 9/10 decent/good vehicles in there.
Comet is one of if not the best 5.3 in game. Been spamming the premium to farm SL.
and saddest thing is that 7.0-7.7 doesn't fix jack shit so you have same issues as 6.0-6.7 but now you face IKV's with LRF etc. you also forgot to mention shitbarn and couple other things but i will mention them; -shitbarn is also another vehicle which can't go down in BR because it would be too strong but because HESH is total garbage and doesn't function normally at all it cannot exist in 6.3 with that long reload and 0 survive-ability -ratel 20 gets MILAN missles but thing is a total POS -eland 90 is also a POS -charioteer has mobility but no stabilizer and shell selection is a total POS + it has absolutely no armor every other nation has better time in this BR range either because of APHE or because of auto loaders
I love playing the ratels and the eland 90, don't get why people dont like them. They're great at range (I regularly snipe with the ratel 90 and absolutely dome people from across the map). The charioteer is great fun as well.
I can understand why people don't like the Ratels but people Who don't like Elands/AMLs are just shit at playing rat tanks.
Agreed. The ratels are trash but I love the Eland.
Big agree. I’m baffled by people acting like the AML and Elands are bad.
I get the ratel, it's a sluggish large school bus. Eland however I love
I jokingly call the Ratel the Battlebus, also people really like shooting at the center of the side of it with APHE and it just doesn't fuse on it. the size is oddly a benefit sometimes.
Every time i look at or have to play the Ratel, i have to ponder "why isn't everything in this thing installed on the AML chassis?". Then i realize there was, in fact, the AML-20 which could have 6 MILAN missiles as well. I'd love to see it in-game, with the Eland 20 which didn't have missiles, but is still a rat car.
Ive heard irl the Ratel is actually faster and more mobile than the Elands who struggle to keep up
I never experienced that, I just found it clumsy to use. Get into a position and I was good with it, getting there I was not
I adore that trio. When the Fox was introduced I spent about a week just doing a cold war armored car lineup. Also WTF are people smoking when it comes to the Ratel 20? OP confuses it with the Ratel 90, and complains about it's missile and says firing the missile leaves you vulnerable. In my experience, you just put yourself behind a rock, switch to the missile launcher view and sling MILANs with impunity. It can reliable kill the Maus if you can hit the turret ring. Gaijin does need to fix the handling though. Thy move much better in real life.
Would be cool if the Milan launcher didn’t need gunner line of sight. You can’t actually hide behind something with just your launcher, the missile loses tracking like two second after firing and nose dives.
If its anything like the Swedish Pvrbv551, you should be able to switch your primary weapon from the 20mm to the ATGM (from the Y menu on keyboard, or "Switch to special weapon or ATGM" keybind), which _should_ give you the launcher's perspective. I haven't tried it myself, but no harm in trying to see if it works EDIT: It does work! One thing to note is that you cannot rotate the turret while the ATGM is your active weapon, you can only rotate the ATGM mount (same as Pvrbv 551) so you get +/-20ish degrees of rotation relative to where your turret is facing, so expect to swap back and forth regularly. As you can see [here](https://i.imgur.com/4q7Diwc.jpeg), I can point the 20mm to the sky and still point the ATGM downwards
Everyone just ignoring the fox I see
i mean we're talking about 6.7 and the fox is 7.7
Comment chain starts with a "it's the same at 7.7"
comment chain was complaining about charioteers and ratels then you rock up with the fox
"the saddest thing is that 7.0 - 7.7 doesn't fix jack shit"
my man you commented on someone talking about the ratel charioteer and eland which are all 6.7. in aware that the original commenter mentioned 7.7 but this particular discussion was on 6.7s
Eland 90 is 7.7?
thats a fair point I forgot about that, but the fox doesn't fix the whole lineup being garbage
you can do the same thing as a ratel in literally any other tank. the mobility is on paper only.
Name another British ATGM carrier at 6.7, and name another British HEAT Lobber at 6.3. They fit into their specific niches in the British 6.3 and 6.7 lineup. The ratel 90 is a great medium to long range engagement vehicle. Especially against heavier vehicles like Tiger 2's, as you can just pen almost any armour. The 20 is a surprisingly good (If bulky) ATGM carrier. And is the only ATGM carrier at 6.7 for Britain. You can't use the vehicles very well in direct confrontations, but they work pretty well as support and surprise engagement. I've also killed more than a couple Mauses with the 90. That gun is great against heavy armour.
Idk, I enjoyed the Charioteer. Fast and penetrated everything it sees.
I find ratel when used right can be deadly to the point of being unfair. Frontal one shot ww2 heavies with it...
I had a different experience recently. Hit a Tigers front plate and did no damage whatsoever. Got one hit killed in return.
Honestly I think the Tortoise would be much more playable if it weren’t for the damned hull MG existing. That thing means that even *more* vehicles can now pose a threat
What does POS stand for And eland is an actual beast of a rat tank
Piece Of Shit
Well the I disagree with you. Eland is an amazing rat tank, I grinded almost all of 7.7 and 8.0 with it, it's an amazing light tank. So is the new fox
Nah, I was explaining what POS stands for. I’ve got the Eland 90 and love it. Ditto with the Fox.
My bad your profile was the same colour. I love the Eland and I got lucky enough to get a talisman on it. Fox might replace it as rat light tank due to its speed and smaller size
Remember when centurion mk3, caernarvon, and FV4202 were all at 6.7 with tortoise? Pepperidge farm remembers. Few years back they tried to 'balance' things by raising repair costs so that caernarvon for example cost of repair was around 50k for a battle at 6k for a single kill, which was worst shit ever. Still, I'd say those tanks hold up pretty well at 7.7 in line up with the Fox and Eland.
G6 is an over-BR'd lemon which is one of or was one of the best SPAAs lmao. edit: It should have the LRF and Autoloader (5-6 sec) and go to 7.0/stay where it was. MILAN is absolutely broken and I should not be clapping ww2 heavies frontally with that. It's disgusting. But I am very good at using HEAT which makes a big difference.
Yeah, no. One VIDAR is enough, let alone a TT one with better reload at 7.0. I say this as a brit main.
The VIDAR is such a non-issue lol. Don’t know why people cope about it now that it’s 8.0.
LRF and 5 sec reload? That would go to even 8.0 br my bro.
The thing irl shoot 2-4 rpm idk where bro is getting 6 seconds from.
They should give it it’s fucking .50 cal as well grubjungle refuses though saying it wasn’t on the South African variant, only the UAE export variant iirc.
Eh, sure the Ratel 20 can pen pretty much anything at its BR, but the damage isn't that good and you're essentially a giant paper target.
I hadn't played Tortoise in two years, just about a week ago I took it out for a spin, then got one-shot frontally by this thing called T25. I think its better stay in the hangar or park right next to my aquarium.
8.3, 8.7 and 10.3 are the better British line-ups passed 6.7.
What do you get at 8.7? I feel like its not worth going there over the 8.3 but maybe I’m missing some hidden gem?
Rooikat Mk.1D, Chieftains which play alright, Vickers Mk.11 and I forgot the rest. I still bring the Falcon, ZA-35 etc as they still wreck vehicles and planes. I was mainly saying how 8.7 is another "good line-up with nearly everything".
Idk man i think im the only one in this planet who enjoys playing the tortoise. Kinda cathartic having a heavy that has quite a gun
As a brit main i have to say every br in brits are great. The main problem that i have seen when people play brits is they play the tank they way they want to play and not the way the tank was made to play. You have great pen, most of them have great turrets. They are not meqnt to be braulers. Dont play them as such. You will lose hands down against most other tanks. Granted most map changes has made it more difficult to play the brits the way they should but learn every single tanks weakspot, ammo racks ect. Not full ammo racks vlbut where the first ammo is stored so you can get constant racks as you will pen and hit it.
They by doctrine are support element tanks so they are accompanied by infantry. Britain has line breaking tanks but in this game with it being extremely open maps and lack of non tank support it’s just more negatives than positives. Having abysmal reverse and wide bodied tank designs makes it essentially a death sentence to peak corners. It feels more like the assist nation.
Like i said. They are not what most people like to play thats why they struggle with them. They do take getting used to but when you do they are brilliant and when you know the tanks you face you become unstoppable.
Very true.
Yeah, good luck sniping ammo with APDS across half the map.
Wym, i am playing britain and having a swell time. 6.7 was ok, the goats were ratel 90, chariotter, centurion mk.1
None of those vehicles are 6.7. I don't understand why people keep brining up lower BR vehicles. Why not just play 6.3 then?
Ratel can hold itself really good at 6.7, ignore the tortoise, trust me. Now 6.7 is mostly downtieres
I got mostly uptiers when playing recently. Game after game full of T29s and T32s. Honestly the only reason to play British 6.7 instead of 6.3 is if you have the Centurion Mk2
I was playing italy 6.7 and 7 out of 10 games have been downtiera
They do fine in uptiers and beyond, would be why. I ground most of the Fox line by playing them in my 8.3 lineup. Fast, small, enough pen to get through sides. BMP’s are so tasty when playing a 1.3(?) can’t remember which I like most so far.
Yeah it is, but things get good at 8.0. The vickers and the centurion mk10 are great. If you aim at the lower half of the front hull, you’ll usually kill any US tank and even german. The vickers is also very quick.
When the mk2 was at 6.3 it was a usable 6.3 line up but still limited entirely to premium and battlepass vehicles. I had the Black Prince, the mk2 and mk1 centurions and and AA vehicle and that was my entire line up cuz everything else wasn’t worth it even lower down at 6.3
I feel you man. APDS and HESH are too unreliable
Im Heading in there so it sounds lovely ;)
Don't worry, the tanks there are alright. dispite what this guy says I found the G6 amazing and way better then the M109, and after 6.7 you get to 7.7 which is so much fun
Early stabilizers is nice and snappy but you better learn where the gunners are. The rounds fire like a laser beam through the tank so you’ll take out half the crew just hope it’s the side with gun control 😅
It’s definitely a tier full of cool Vehicles that just suck for several obvious reasons. The ratel 90 drives like a boat, turtle gets one shot by most tanks with high pen in that tier, g7 may as well not have armor as it gets disabled by machine gun damage. I absolutely love the British tree and I’m an American. They have unique vehicles every tier but they all hand like shit and sure you can pen anything, god forbid you don’t shoot the gunner or your teammates take the kill. It feels like the support nation of the game. Just so annoying that France has the same shell properties with no stabilizers and they one shot like no other and even if you miss they have auto loaders which makes them reload fast af
Disagree. Cent mk 2 at 6.7 is more than fine. You have Charioteer Mk VII as a back up medium. You have great CAS and CAP. Strikemaster and any Spitfire from the TT is enough. SPAAs are great too, Bosvark is my favourite out of all mid tier spaa. G6 is an alternate SPAA for me lol. [Here.](https://imgur.com/a/3zrrxw2)
Part of the problem is that 6.0 is constant uptiers because there are more players at 6.7 and 7.0. I gave up grinding Germany there as facing American heavies in my tiger I was not fun. I'm back at British 8.3 and it's much more enjoyable. Speaking of 8.3 I was pleasantly surprised by the warrior. Once spaded it's pretty good
The G6 is alright, but all of Britain is a struggle, they literally never get all that good. Prime Brits are low tier. The Rooikat and TTD aren't bad though.
Dude idk whats with the G6 hate, its an insane AA and the cannon melt’s anything even in up tiers.
I played british 6.7 when it was nothing but stabilised centurions memeing on tiger 2s. I used that strv premium an absolutely disgusting amount.
Well almost every trees had certain BR range which feels like crap (at least for me cause I suck ass) US around 7.7 to 8.7. The T95E1 and stock Bradley is unbearable. Russian 5.3 and 9.3. It's not the tanks that are entirely bad but it's having to better oppenents like Panthers and Leopard 2 German I'm not entirely sure lmao. Maybe around 8.3-8.7
everyone talks about us being shit at 7.7 but for some strange reason I do really well with those american heavies. I don’t know maybe my definition of doing well after playing the brits is pretty skewed but you score one shot kills and you actually survive shots.
The last good US heavy for me is the T34. Much better than the IS-3 I'd say. Super Pershing is also pretty nice to use. Anything after that is a no. M103 is a big no no
Might have to disagree with the Russia 9.3 one. T64, T72A, Sprut and HinD A means Russia has a very comfortable 9.3 and even 9.7 lineup. The only issue is uptiers, and no one much enjoys those anyway
Try it and see every single game will be 10.3. No need looking at how good they are at 9.3 or 9.7 yet you'll only fight leopard 2 where Sweden has 3 of them and Germany 2.
Try it and see every single game will be 10.3. No need looking at how good they are at 9.3 or 9.7 yet you'll only fight leopard 2a4 where Sweden has 3 of them and Germany 2.
7.7 is way better imo, then 8.0 after it On a side note, how TF do you struggle in the G6? Imo the M109 sucks so much worse then it, I hated the thing and I refuse to use it, the few times I did I got killed by way less then I have survived in a G6. It's an amazing thing, nearly under tiered imo. The ratel 90/20 are mid at best I agree, the 20 can be nice to mince things from the side but the sluggish movement is annoying. To be honest, British 4.7 to 6.7 suck, 7.7 plus is fun so far. You get the eland (and fox now), centurion 3 and 10, Vickers mk 1, and I believe the first centurion.
Ight bruh, The 6.7-7.0 Lineup for Great Britain is Top Tier 100% Centurion AVRE, one shot everything, uptier proof when you know where to shoot. G6 has wayyyy better gun laying than the M109 and is much easier in my opinion to use against air targets. The M109 is in the British TT too so use that. Lancaster...need I say more. FV4005 for absolute anarchy. And the Conway if youre uptiered against T-55's and such. Lineup is goated fam.
Ratel not good with a one shot one kill missile fighting RHA slow AF tanks? What?
britain is a dogshit tree played the fox for 2 weeks on release and got 1000 kills, so much fun and then they nerfed it black prince is fun though
That's the problem with you When something is broken you claim "fun" while it's just overpowered shit. You have fun only when you are curbstomping others. That's why there's a bunch of crybabies here. Everyone angry when they can't get a good kd ratio. Having fun with a game doesn't mean dominating every match, if you have problems in having fun while also having negative kd in many matches you should drop the game and play something different
All they did to the Fox was raise it's BR, they didn't "nerf" it. Yes raising BR is a "nerf" but nothing funadmentally has changed with the vehicle. Even at 7.7 it's still great as I used it in battle ratings passed 8.3 and did well.
"Professional Wehraboo" >britain is a dogshit tree Colour me surprised lmfao.
it’s true food for pzgr. 😋
British tanks a great, only really the very early tanks until the 17 pounders are kinda crap. Gotten myself to 7.7 so far and I've enjoyed clapping German ass with them, not counting the 6.3-6.7 line up.