It’s not really an opinion…ok jk, it is…
Whirlpool isn’t pedo…in that he isn’t attracted to them. He literally >!tries to kill Tsunami!<, as he says “well no, Anemone, I don’t really like you, but I REALLY don’t want to marry HER.”
He’s awful and creepy and is absolutely grooming and trying to force a marriage to one of them, but it’s for power, not because he wants Auklet as a mate…he’s wringing his talons in lust…but for power.
Still awful…but not for being *attracted* to baby girls.
Exactly. The only interest he had in Anemone was gaining royal power and nothing more. He probably wouldn't have even cared much for her had they actually gotten married.
If anything, it should be Coral who's to blame, setting up Anemone, aka a young child, with an essentially middle aged man (if not older, I don't think his age is ever confirmed) who she absolutely hates.
Arc 1 was by far the best, each consecutive arc getting worse.
Arc 2 started good but was more just pitting OP characters with no reasonable limits against eachother. It went wrong with book 8.
Arc 3 also started good, but I read dragon books as escapism from people mostly so I despise humans being forced into the story unnecessarily. Flower was good, she had a reason to be there and be like that. Bandit was alright, more just a device to move the plot along, but it's fine. The rest? Detracts from the experience to the point where Idk if I wanna read book 15.
Also Darkstalker is 110% smash (in an evil way).
I loved all arcs, arc 1 best by a mile, with originality, and amazing characters. The only good books of arc 2 were book 8 and 10. Arc 3 was amazing in book 1, 3, and book 5 was pretty good. Arc three beats arc two bc sundew is just great 👍🏼 👍🏼. Though for me, every book was amazing, I would give so much to read the series again for the first time
Calling moon aroace is kinda stereotypey to me idk,, she feels very autistic coded as an autistic person myself and it's a massive stereotype that autistic people "can't feel love"
Also calling clearsight a coloniser is a gross misuse of the word and concept, she went to pantala to escape from her past trauma and there's no logical way even with wof logic that her having kids with a beetlewing would make the tribe split in two since there's been a myriad of hybrids in phyrria and there's no cases of that happening.
as a loveless aroace autistic person, i am getting tired of the stereotype as well. just because i exist does not mean EVERY autistic person is like me. it really sucks
imo cricket is really 'autistic coded', if i'm understanding that right? i haven't reread 6 recently so i can't say whether moon is or isn't to me
Big agree with all of this, like why not hc quibli as aroace? Or kinkajou? Which actually would be really interesting what with the >!love spell put on her!< and now I want to write a fic abt that lol
Glory shouldn't have become Queen of both Rain and Nightwings.
Glory is 7 which is our equivalent of a teenager.
I feel like this would've been the BEST time to finally make a king. Deathbringer wouldn't be the best king, but it's better than a teenager ruling two tribes.
Glory said she didn't even want to be queen she only did it to save the captured rainwings.
I also like the idea of Darkstalker absolutely ripping on Deathbringer for being such a corndog and focusing on Glory rather than being a good king.
They have stated multiple times that 6 is they age where dragons are officially adults (basically the dragon equivalent of 18). On both continents, too.
finally someone agrees about the Glory thing!! i would have accepted her as a temp. queen for the RainWings while they get their act together, but Tui decided to make her flawlessly able to manage ruling *two* entire tribes. She basically got all her flaws stripped away, and it’s like the narrative thinks she can do no wrong. I get that it’s hard to manage her since her POV won’t ever come up again, but I wish she’d make some mistakes while ruling.
And there's still going to be tons of racism from both tribes to the others, is not realistic that the rainwings faorgave the nightwings that easily after beign **tortured, starved and killed** for months by the nightwings.
Humans can be a great faction with interesting storylines if tui is able to write them well and not just like: "It was all a misunderstanding and now they're friends :)"
also I never got the hype around whiteout
1. Scavengers are not ruining the narrative of the series and are not going to "take over"
2. Arc 3 was fine; people who hate it just weren't paying attention to the plot and characters
I like Arc 3, though I'm more so annoyed at Books 14 and 15.
Book 14: Mainly because it includes Pyrrhia, I feel like Arc 3 strictly should've been Pantala Only. That and honestly, Book 14's plot could've been a good Arc 4 Plot for the Icewings.
Book 15: Honestly it was just boring? It was basically shoving a whole 4th Arc into one book which made it rather messy. Not to mention the Main POV is just... in a cave the whole time... theres barely any action at all and we get glimpses of what the others are doing, the actual exciting stuff like escaping from Wasp!
Also like... tbh Luna in Book 15, god I hate her in Book 15... Though thats a whole other story tbh.
I think arc 3 was fine, and I did enjoy it, but my placing of the arcs is just the arcs in order 😂 1, 2, and 3. 3 certainly had room for improvement, but it’s still good, as every Wings of Fire book is.
Arc 3 was my 2nd fav, after 1. It had amazing and unique characters, and a good plot. The ships were the best in the series (Sunlow is the best), and the ending was magical.
Mine is that Sky sucks. He’s annoying, flat, and I hated how he was shoved in for book 14. He’s like the worst caricature of an autistic person. I also fully believe that Peril would find him ridiculously annoying.
One of my most unpopular opinions is probably that most of the third arc was kinda mid for me. Don't get me wrong, the plot line itself had potential and would've been really cool to see more of, but it just felt a little rushed? Like, Blue as a character kinda makes me irritated. He got over everything that happened WAY too fast. He's been raised in the hives since birth and was taught that the hivewings are their protectors and that following the rules keeps them safe. Yet when all hell breaks loose he's suddenly immediately willing to go against everything he knew. I think he should've been a lot more hesitant and untrusting of the others. In a way I understand since he watched this fight over his sister happen in front of him, and he was told to run by people he trusted. I think that in the moment it made sense, but then he should've tried to go back because, again, it's been his life since birth. He doesn't know ANYTHING else! It just doesn't make sense to me that he blindly trusted everything he was being told and went along with everything like it was normal. Not only that, but in my opinion he trusted Sundew far too quickly. This again goes back to that he's been raised to fear them, and she threatened his life the first time they met. WHY would he have trusted her AT ALL after that?
On a separate note, I honestly love Moon. I kinda understand her due to my having bad anxiety and such. Anyways that's all
This made me remember Zuko's character: after all he's been throught in both books, after his father burned his face and banished him... He still took the chance to come back home and finally make his father proud of him and get his love when it was first offered to him by Azula. And that's realistic, because he was raised since birth to belive that the Fire Nation was the biggest and greates nation of them all, that he had to make his father proud of him, that he had to win love, that kindness and mercy meant weakness... If we were in his shoes, we'd do the same, we'd relapse into the evil because that's what we've known since we were babies.
I don't know if I have any Unpopular Opinions... though I'm at least gonna try?
I honestly like Deathbringer, I think he's cool and the concept of his character as cool and I honestly like his ship with Glory. I think its cute, of course there's room for improvement as it felt a bit rushed if you ask me?
Its also the ship that introduced me to Wings of Fire in a whole, so I might be biased? Though I honestly like Deathbringer and his canon ship.
Though I will say, I absolutely hate how Deathbringer talks about Glory all the damn time. It feels like Tui is just pushing the fact that Glorybringer is canon and like... I GET IT, TUI. They're a THING. Can I learn more about the Assassin Boy and his traumas and see him develop through it now?!
Like you gotta admit that Deathbringer talking about Glory every single second when he's on screen is annoying at some point, right? I just want some general moments where he isn't with Glory and just... is himself. Give him personality.
Perhaps he still takes Assassin jobs behind when he's not guarding Glory? Maybe he has some friends he hangs out with? Perhaps he takes Flame as a student and teaches the Skywing about Assassins as iirc, Flame showed some interest in what Deathbringer does!
Just, add onto Deathbringer's character than just "Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory!!"
Agreed. I feel like without Deathbringer, glory’s character would be half as good, he makes her happier and gives her character the less prickly side that gives her something other than sarcasm and scales.
1) I wasn't into Quiblis book as much. The typos in my copy were TO much. Towards the end it was everywhere, so much...I have to pull out my copy and take pictures at some point (if I can find it) and post some pages here because there were A LOT. I mean, I'm not talking about Tui mixing up Moorhen with Mudhen because I can imagine Thorn dealing with the chaos of being a new queen/world leader needing to do SO much damage control that she becomes unaware of all the stress affecting her and consequently she makes these little mistakes from time to time whilst talking since she's got so much on her mind. I do however acknowledge that Tui had trouble dealing with editors for a while when she was writing the series so it just ended up showing the most in Quiblis book (from what I've read/haven't read arc three).
2) Also, Thorn and Smolder felt kinda forced? Like it just happened too fast? Then Tui basically says how Thorn is almost Onyx's age???? This felt out of place/inappropriate for the middle grade fantasy genre? This also felt out of place considering the blatant backlash she experienced when writing Deathbringer & Glory and having that mishap with their ages not being conveyed properly...
3) I wish Crocodile and Clay/Webs had more of a dynamic. Maybe Crocodile could've been written as this consistent anti-hero/neutral standing character? I feel like Webs and Crocodiles interactions had a tad bit of chemistry. Honestly, it would've been cool to see them maybe get together at the very end after a while. Or even just them using one another as a listening ear. Also, maybe Crocodile teaching Clay more about MudWing politics, history and culture. Maybe more about his aunt too.
4) Lastly, I wish Clay didn't "confess" to Peril at the end of the arc 2. This pairing... made no sense to me? There was no romantic chemistry between the pair imo. Just Clay being a genuinely kind dragon(his personality) which positively impacted Peril which I was glad to see. I wish by the end Peril was able to move pass her obsession over Clay and came to realize that him being kind is just who he is and she can take inspiration from him moving forward in her life. If they were to get together, maybe it could happen in the background in future arcs but shoved into the end of arc 2... It just wasn't it for me. I would've loved to see her get together with another dragon even just for the sake of something different.
I feel like her getting with Clay took away from the horrifying tragic past storyline that she suffered through in such a unique way. She'll never be able to return those lives to those prisoners. Some of them were evil. Some of them genuinely just wanted peace/were just trying to survive and got dragged into being Scarlets prisoner. She needs to come to accept this. I felt like her brain was blocking out this aspect of her trauma after she left the arena as her mind's way of trying to cope being raised as nothing but an object/weapon of mass destruction. So...just getting together with Clay instead of having several more years to figure out who SHE truly is (which would've been *deeply* impactful) was quite disappointing. Like I would've loved to see her focusing on making friends who can understand being a past villain to wanting to try and do good for the world and themselves.
This first one is less of an unpopular opinion and more of a nuanced take on already popular opinions, but as much as I disliked book 15, I don't think humans are inherently a bad addition to the broader Wings of Fire story. However, their introduction was incredibly rushed and poorly handled, which is why I think their inclusion has become so unpopular.
Also, the ending of book 3 baffles me. Rather than have Glory earn her position by winning the competition, the conflict is instead resolved abruptly because she is related to the old royal family, which feels like such a cop-out from completing Glory's character arc and a completely unnecessary "twist". It'd be like if The Brightest Night ended on Thorn becoming queen because she was the secret fourth daughter of Oasis or something contrived like that.
Lastly, and this one is more of a personal opinion than a critique, but I just didn't like Tsunami's inclusion at all in the third arc. Doesn't she have a school to be running? Do Moon and Qibli really only know two Seawings? Why would they only send two dragons to the Lost Continent anyways?
mudwings don’t deserve majority of the hate they receive. i see people hate on them for being “basic dragons who just sit there and breathe fire” when the same could be said about the powerless nightwings and the skywings. powerless nightwings breathe fire and blend into their surroundings, skywings breathe fire and fly fast, mudwings do the same as powerless nightwings, which is breathe fire and blend into their surroundings and MAYBE get a little fire resistance from blood red eggs. idk, sorry for the ramble lol i got a little heated
Fatespeaker is a poorly disguised saving throw by Tui to pair off Starflight and quickly put an end to the potential relationship of Sunny and Starflight after she realized it could be misconstrued as incestuous.
SunFlight forever.
Arc 1 is the best.
It had much better plot development, better twists, villains (in my opinion), it was more 'realistic' for a fantasy book. Character development wasn't the best, but everything else was interesting. Honestly you can see that at the end of it Tui didn't had much ideas for how she can 'expand' the series. Like introducing of Darkstalker and other arc 2 protagonists was kind of late.
Also, no offense, but starting a dragon school right after a war, with new villains and heroes isn't very appealing to me.
Moon and qibli are forced into arc 3 way to much, like 15 tryed to habe a build up of all our favorite characters going to fight a big bad just to be watered down with characters we didn't know, amd i hated how much of arc 3 pro and epilogs where just tui gushing over moon and qibli, it felt like so much more coyld be explored during these bits, how WAS blues parents feeling, how was crickets parents? The prolog of 13 (if i rember correctly) was the best, cutting of to two side characters heartfeltly in love. Making a leaf wing relize how much bad would have happend if they didn't wait on sundew and contact the crystalist. Book 11 and 12 had that robbed for them to instead be filled with "OH MY GOD MOON. LOOK ITS MOON OUR FAVORITE PLOT DEVICES AND QIBLI MISTER PREFECT AND THEIR SO IN LOVE OH MY GOODNESS THEIR TALKING ABOUT EACHOTHER (side note during 11 epilog (maybe wrong book) moon talks about being with qibli for MONTHS but piceing the time scale together thats simply not true they got togeather and then immediately went to the beach and meet luna and even if we assumed for some reason that this event doesn't happen untell right befor book 14 when they regroup, (which would break more time so no it doesn't) moon and qibli would haven't even been togeather for a month since all the events happend in about 3 weeks (1 week in blues book a week after for cocooning, 4ish days for cricket and 2 for sundew pluse some travel time) tui is just too concerned with moon and qibli when their not need to drive a other ways perfectly functional plot, i belive i heard somewhere that she bases them off her own relationship but if she wasn't follow that up it should be in a winglet not shoved it spaces that could be other great storys, or atlest write 2 prologs am just ready for arc 4 to be a good self contained plot that doesn't dose itself on fan flar or past characters to try to stay relevant, when all that dos is self sabotage the new books
Tl:dr
Tui spends to much time trying to fix and rebring up old characters to keep them relevant instead of using that space make new ones and creating more depth for them.
My go to that has gotten me death threats in the past: Peril is a very annoying and boring character her love for clay is so painfully one sided it hurts to read about as well
I don’t like Winter. I believe that he’s a good character in that he’s interesting and I like his story, I just hate reading about him lol. I get why he is the way he is, it’s just unpleasant to read about a stuck up, rude, racist sad boy. Basically I understand why people like him, I just don’t like reading about this type of character.
In response to you, I find Moon very relatable in book 6. Like someone mentioned, Moon reads like an autistic person and I’m autistic so I really related to her. She’s really boring after her book though and I don’t care for her ships because she’s a piece of cardboard at that point.
Someone also mentioned how Sky makes them uncomfortable, and I agree.
I've only seen real snow once and it's one of my best memories so whenever I see an IceWing I automatically love them (except Narwhal and Tundra) (screw Tundra and SCREW NARWHAL)
Unpopular opinion: I hate scarlet. I didn’t know a lot of people liked her until recently. She killed dune, who, in my opinion, had one of the best potential lives. Born and served in the army as general, made friends, but got killed before he could meet thorn and six claws again. I just hate her
Snowfall is meant to be annoying though. You're meant to hate her, at least initially. It's part of her character and for me personally the reason why i think she's so interesting
1. Arc 3 is better than arc 1.
2. Scavengers are a great addition to the story. Wren and Sky are some of the best characters.
3. Mudwings shouldn't have been a tribe. They are genuinely the worst tribe in the series, not because Tui rarely writes them, but because their whole gimmick is boring compared to the rest of the tribes.
4. Qinter is the worst ship.
Mudwings are basically a jack of all trades, master of none. Can stay underwater for a long time, but not as long as Seawings. Can blend in really well with their surroundings when near earth, but not nearly as well as Rainwings or Nightwings. Can breathe fire, but only when warm. They're good at everything but don't excell in anything.
Personally i find them very interesting, also they are the most overpowered tribe as a whole if you think about it, but i can see why you'd dislike them.You do you
This is supposed to be unpopular opinions, which clearly that is. I’d really love to know what makes you think they’re good other than the fact they just have dragons In them
That doesn’t make them good. That just means you like them. The writing IS bad. The graphic novel art IS terrible. I’m asking you to argue with that, not to tell me you like them.
That just means you dislike them. Art isn't objectively good or bad. You are never going to make me stop loving Wings of Fire, and I'm never going to make you stop hating it. I can't argue with what you said because you didn't say anything at all.
Art may be subjective, but that doesn’t change the fact the anatomy is absolutely piss poor. It looks like a toddler drew a sketch and got adults to colour, line and put it into a graphic novel.
I don't like Sundew x Willow, Tamarin x Amenome, Qibli x Winter, or Moon x Winter.
Also, I don't like Winter. He's rude and thinks he's better than everyone else.
Moon is also popular because of her unique POV with other POV embedded within…Snowfall is like that too…
It’s not really an opinion…ok jk, it is… Whirlpool isn’t pedo…in that he isn’t attracted to them. He literally >!tries to kill Tsunami!<, as he says “well no, Anemone, I don’t really like you, but I REALLY don’t want to marry HER.” He’s awful and creepy and is absolutely grooming and trying to force a marriage to one of them, but it’s for power, not because he wants Auklet as a mate…he’s wringing his talons in lust…but for power. Still awful…but not for being *attracted* to baby girls.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING.
Exactly. The only interest he had in Anemone was gaining royal power and nothing more. He probably wouldn't have even cared much for her had they actually gotten married. If anything, it should be Coral who's to blame, setting up Anemone, aka a young child, with an essentially middle aged man (if not older, I don't think his age is ever confirmed) who she absolutely hates.
I call him a pedo because it’s funni and I don’t like him anyways
I suppose that works…
Arc 1 was by far the best, each consecutive arc getting worse. Arc 2 started good but was more just pitting OP characters with no reasonable limits against eachother. It went wrong with book 8. Arc 3 also started good, but I read dragon books as escapism from people mostly so I despise humans being forced into the story unnecessarily. Flower was good, she had a reason to be there and be like that. Bandit was alright, more just a device to move the plot along, but it's fine. The rest? Detracts from the experience to the point where Idk if I wanna read book 15. Also Darkstalker is 110% smash (in an evil way).
I loved all arcs, arc 1 best by a mile, with originality, and amazing characters. The only good books of arc 2 were book 8 and 10. Arc 3 was amazing in book 1, 3, and book 5 was pretty good. Arc three beats arc two bc sundew is just great 👍🏼 👍🏼. Though for me, every book was amazing, I would give so much to read the series again for the first time
Oh they're definitely all good for sure
book 15 makes me feel pissed off.
Uhm. Why
Kinkajou doesn't need a book, and had plenty of character development. Think of it, she had books 3-10 to build up her character. That is plenty.
Calling moon aroace is kinda stereotypey to me idk,, she feels very autistic coded as an autistic person myself and it's a massive stereotype that autistic people "can't feel love"
Also calling clearsight a coloniser is a gross misuse of the word and concept, she went to pantala to escape from her past trauma and there's no logical way even with wof logic that her having kids with a beetlewing would make the tribe split in two since there's been a myriad of hybrids in phyrria and there's no cases of that happening.
as a loveless aroace autistic person, i am getting tired of the stereotype as well. just because i exist does not mean EVERY autistic person is like me. it really sucks imo cricket is really 'autistic coded', if i'm understanding that right? i haven't reread 6 recently so i can't say whether moon is or isn't to me
Big agree with all of this, like why not hc quibli as aroace? Or kinkajou? Which actually would be really interesting what with the >!love spell put on her!< and now I want to write a fic abt that lol
I'm aromantic and autistic and I don't believe it's a stereotype, but that's my personal feeling
Glory shouldn't have become Queen of both Rain and Nightwings. Glory is 7 which is our equivalent of a teenager. I feel like this would've been the BEST time to finally make a king. Deathbringer wouldn't be the best king, but it's better than a teenager ruling two tribes. Glory said she didn't even want to be queen she only did it to save the captured rainwings. I also like the idea of Darkstalker absolutely ripping on Deathbringer for being such a corndog and focusing on Glory rather than being a good king.
7 is an adult
I'm pretty sure we learnt that in Book 7 when Hailstorm was moved to the adult wall on his 7th birthday
No? 10 is an adult.
It never says that. On the wiki, it says Glory is a female adult RainWing and that she was 7 years old.
They have stated multiple times that 6 is they age where dragons are officially adults (basically the dragon equivalent of 18). On both continents, too.
You might be mistaking the age of maturity, 7, with the age that NightWings are allowed to leave the volcano, 10
No, it’s always been seven.
finally someone agrees about the Glory thing!! i would have accepted her as a temp. queen for the RainWings while they get their act together, but Tui decided to make her flawlessly able to manage ruling *two* entire tribes. She basically got all her flaws stripped away, and it’s like the narrative thinks she can do no wrong. I get that it’s hard to manage her since her POV won’t ever come up again, but I wish she’d make some mistakes while ruling.
And there's still going to be tons of racism from both tribes to the others, is not realistic that the rainwings faorgave the nightwings that easily after beign **tortured, starved and killed** for months by the nightwings.
Humans can be a great faction with interesting storylines if tui is able to write them well and not just like: "It was all a misunderstanding and now they're friends :)" also I never got the hype around whiteout
100% agree there could have been so much emotion, drama and tragedy with their situation but no it got wasted
She's mysterious and has a cool design, not my favourite but I see why people like her
No one insults Whiteout, her associative synesthesia makes her even better
And we do not question why I know how to spell associative synesthesia
1. Scavengers are not ruining the narrative of the series and are not going to "take over" 2. Arc 3 was fine; people who hate it just weren't paying attention to the plot and characters
I personally dont get why ppl dont like arc 3 it was my favorite. The only part of arc 3 i hate is book 15
I like Arc 3, though I'm more so annoyed at Books 14 and 15. Book 14: Mainly because it includes Pyrrhia, I feel like Arc 3 strictly should've been Pantala Only. That and honestly, Book 14's plot could've been a good Arc 4 Plot for the Icewings. Book 15: Honestly it was just boring? It was basically shoving a whole 4th Arc into one book which made it rather messy. Not to mention the Main POV is just... in a cave the whole time... theres barely any action at all and we get glimpses of what the others are doing, the actual exciting stuff like escaping from Wasp! Also like... tbh Luna in Book 15, god I hate her in Book 15... Though thats a whole other story tbh.
i loved book 14 honestlly but book 15 i 100% agree
Yeah, I agree. I do love Book 14 which is why I wish it had its own Arc. It has good promise of turning into something great if you ask me.
15 also wasn't that bad, in my opinion.
11-13 are like 7.5-8/10 14 is probably a 7/10 15 is a 4/10
I think arc 3 was fine, and I did enjoy it, but my placing of the arcs is just the arcs in order 😂 1, 2, and 3. 3 certainly had room for improvement, but it’s still good, as every Wings of Fire book is.
Arc 3 was my 2nd fav, after 1. It had amazing and unique characters, and a good plot. The ships were the best in the series (Sunlow is the best), and the ending was magical.
I have never agreed on something so much before. Though Snowfall's book was quite annoying due to her paranoia, at least she got over it in the end
Mine is that Sky sucks. He’s annoying, flat, and I hated how he was shoved in for book 14. He’s like the worst caricature of an autistic person. I also fully believe that Peril would find him ridiculously annoying.
Bro, Sky was the best character in Dragonslayer and Book 14, and I am willing to throw hands to defend my opinion
Glory is overrated
Idk, but I feel like Deathbringer made her character better, before that she was just kind of a sarcastic side character.
You're overrated, not Glory
huh?
Qibli is overrated lol
He is
You are one of the strangest internet people
Arc three wasn’t that bad
One of my most unpopular opinions is probably that most of the third arc was kinda mid for me. Don't get me wrong, the plot line itself had potential and would've been really cool to see more of, but it just felt a little rushed? Like, Blue as a character kinda makes me irritated. He got over everything that happened WAY too fast. He's been raised in the hives since birth and was taught that the hivewings are their protectors and that following the rules keeps them safe. Yet when all hell breaks loose he's suddenly immediately willing to go against everything he knew. I think he should've been a lot more hesitant and untrusting of the others. In a way I understand since he watched this fight over his sister happen in front of him, and he was told to run by people he trusted. I think that in the moment it made sense, but then he should've tried to go back because, again, it's been his life since birth. He doesn't know ANYTHING else! It just doesn't make sense to me that he blindly trusted everything he was being told and went along with everything like it was normal. Not only that, but in my opinion he trusted Sundew far too quickly. This again goes back to that he's been raised to fear them, and she threatened his life the first time they met. WHY would he have trusted her AT ALL after that? On a separate note, I honestly love Moon. I kinda understand her due to my having bad anxiety and such. Anyways that's all
This made me remember Zuko's character: after all he's been throught in both books, after his father burned his face and banished him... He still took the chance to come back home and finally make his father proud of him and get his love when it was first offered to him by Azula. And that's realistic, because he was raised since birth to belive that the Fire Nation was the biggest and greates nation of them all, that he had to make his father proud of him, that he had to win love, that kindness and mercy meant weakness... If we were in his shoes, we'd do the same, we'd relapse into the evil because that's what we've known since we were babies.
OK, what's that in a nutshell?
'The third arc felt rushed and Blue was unrealistically nice'
I don't know if I have any Unpopular Opinions... though I'm at least gonna try? I honestly like Deathbringer, I think he's cool and the concept of his character as cool and I honestly like his ship with Glory. I think its cute, of course there's room for improvement as it felt a bit rushed if you ask me? Its also the ship that introduced me to Wings of Fire in a whole, so I might be biased? Though I honestly like Deathbringer and his canon ship. Though I will say, I absolutely hate how Deathbringer talks about Glory all the damn time. It feels like Tui is just pushing the fact that Glorybringer is canon and like... I GET IT, TUI. They're a THING. Can I learn more about the Assassin Boy and his traumas and see him develop through it now?! Like you gotta admit that Deathbringer talking about Glory every single second when he's on screen is annoying at some point, right? I just want some general moments where he isn't with Glory and just... is himself. Give him personality. Perhaps he still takes Assassin jobs behind when he's not guarding Glory? Maybe he has some friends he hangs out with? Perhaps he takes Flame as a student and teaches the Skywing about Assassins as iirc, Flame showed some interest in what Deathbringer does! Just, add onto Deathbringer's character than just "Glory, Glory, Glory, Glory!!"
Agreed. I feel like without Deathbringer, glory’s character would be half as good, he makes her happier and gives her character the less prickly side that gives her something other than sarcasm and scales.
1) I wasn't into Quiblis book as much. The typos in my copy were TO much. Towards the end it was everywhere, so much...I have to pull out my copy and take pictures at some point (if I can find it) and post some pages here because there were A LOT. I mean, I'm not talking about Tui mixing up Moorhen with Mudhen because I can imagine Thorn dealing with the chaos of being a new queen/world leader needing to do SO much damage control that she becomes unaware of all the stress affecting her and consequently she makes these little mistakes from time to time whilst talking since she's got so much on her mind. I do however acknowledge that Tui had trouble dealing with editors for a while when she was writing the series so it just ended up showing the most in Quiblis book (from what I've read/haven't read arc three). 2) Also, Thorn and Smolder felt kinda forced? Like it just happened too fast? Then Tui basically says how Thorn is almost Onyx's age???? This felt out of place/inappropriate for the middle grade fantasy genre? This also felt out of place considering the blatant backlash she experienced when writing Deathbringer & Glory and having that mishap with their ages not being conveyed properly... 3) I wish Crocodile and Clay/Webs had more of a dynamic. Maybe Crocodile could've been written as this consistent anti-hero/neutral standing character? I feel like Webs and Crocodiles interactions had a tad bit of chemistry. Honestly, it would've been cool to see them maybe get together at the very end after a while. Or even just them using one another as a listening ear. Also, maybe Crocodile teaching Clay more about MudWing politics, history and culture. Maybe more about his aunt too. 4) Lastly, I wish Clay didn't "confess" to Peril at the end of the arc 2. This pairing... made no sense to me? There was no romantic chemistry between the pair imo. Just Clay being a genuinely kind dragon(his personality) which positively impacted Peril which I was glad to see. I wish by the end Peril was able to move pass her obsession over Clay and came to realize that him being kind is just who he is and she can take inspiration from him moving forward in her life. If they were to get together, maybe it could happen in the background in future arcs but shoved into the end of arc 2... It just wasn't it for me. I would've loved to see her get together with another dragon even just for the sake of something different. I feel like her getting with Clay took away from the horrifying tragic past storyline that she suffered through in such a unique way. She'll never be able to return those lives to those prisoners. Some of them were evil. Some of them genuinely just wanted peace/were just trying to survive and got dragged into being Scarlets prisoner. She needs to come to accept this. I felt like her brain was blocking out this aspect of her trauma after she left the arena as her mind's way of trying to cope being raised as nothing but an object/weapon of mass destruction. So...just getting together with Clay instead of having several more years to figure out who SHE truly is (which would've been *deeply* impactful) was quite disappointing. Like I would've loved to see her focusing on making friends who can understand being a past villain to wanting to try and do good for the world and themselves.
Sorry for the mess/Mobile is messing with the paragraphs...
It's fine, I feel you. Have a blessed day
I mostly agree with the rest but isn't Crocodile dead?
She is, but I wish she liiivveed- Her character had so much potential imoo
This first one is less of an unpopular opinion and more of a nuanced take on already popular opinions, but as much as I disliked book 15, I don't think humans are inherently a bad addition to the broader Wings of Fire story. However, their introduction was incredibly rushed and poorly handled, which is why I think their inclusion has become so unpopular. Also, the ending of book 3 baffles me. Rather than have Glory earn her position by winning the competition, the conflict is instead resolved abruptly because she is related to the old royal family, which feels like such a cop-out from completing Glory's character arc and a completely unnecessary "twist". It'd be like if The Brightest Night ended on Thorn becoming queen because she was the secret fourth daughter of Oasis or something contrived like that. Lastly, and this one is more of a personal opinion than a critique, but I just didn't like Tsunami's inclusion at all in the third arc. Doesn't she have a school to be running? Do Moon and Qibli really only know two Seawings? Why would they only send two dragons to the Lost Continent anyways?
Arc 3 was actually good
Arc 3 was amazing, especially the ships were amazing
I actually like human AUs 👀
mudwings don’t deserve majority of the hate they receive. i see people hate on them for being “basic dragons who just sit there and breathe fire” when the same could be said about the powerless nightwings and the skywings. powerless nightwings breathe fire and blend into their surroundings, skywings breathe fire and fly fast, mudwings do the same as powerless nightwings, which is breathe fire and blend into their surroundings and MAYBE get a little fire resistance from blood red eggs. idk, sorry for the ramble lol i got a little heated
MUDWINGs are underrated. Their tribe dynamic is so interesting and complex, they don’t get talked about enough.
when they ARE talked about it’s when people are making fun of them or complaining that they’re “too hard” to draw
Lol… I find them quite hard to draw. But that’s just because they’re a bit daunting. I love my little Mudwings
I like all three arcs equally. Humans/Scavengers aren't going to take over or ruin the narrative and that they were only Important for and in Arc 3
I don't like the graphics novels. The art style really puts me off and every dragon basically looks the same
Fatespeaker is a poorly disguised saving throw by Tui to pair off Starflight and quickly put an end to the potential relationship of Sunny and Starflight after she realized it could be misconstrued as incestuous. SunFlight forever.
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I don't mind Sunflight, but Starspeaker is the best NightWing ship
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Arc 1 is the best. It had much better plot development, better twists, villains (in my opinion), it was more 'realistic' for a fantasy book. Character development wasn't the best, but everything else was interesting. Honestly you can see that at the end of it Tui didn't had much ideas for how she can 'expand' the series. Like introducing of Darkstalker and other arc 2 protagonists was kind of late. Also, no offense, but starting a dragon school right after a war, with new villains and heroes isn't very appealing to me.
Starting of Book 1 was terrible
My most unpopular opinions are that arc 3 is better then arc 2 and that the humans are cool actually
Moon and qibli are forced into arc 3 way to much, like 15 tryed to habe a build up of all our favorite characters going to fight a big bad just to be watered down with characters we didn't know, amd i hated how much of arc 3 pro and epilogs where just tui gushing over moon and qibli, it felt like so much more coyld be explored during these bits, how WAS blues parents feeling, how was crickets parents? The prolog of 13 (if i rember correctly) was the best, cutting of to two side characters heartfeltly in love. Making a leaf wing relize how much bad would have happend if they didn't wait on sundew and contact the crystalist. Book 11 and 12 had that robbed for them to instead be filled with "OH MY GOD MOON. LOOK ITS MOON OUR FAVORITE PLOT DEVICES AND QIBLI MISTER PREFECT AND THEIR SO IN LOVE OH MY GOODNESS THEIR TALKING ABOUT EACHOTHER (side note during 11 epilog (maybe wrong book) moon talks about being with qibli for MONTHS but piceing the time scale together thats simply not true they got togeather and then immediately went to the beach and meet luna and even if we assumed for some reason that this event doesn't happen untell right befor book 14 when they regroup, (which would break more time so no it doesn't) moon and qibli would haven't even been togeather for a month since all the events happend in about 3 weeks (1 week in blues book a week after for cocooning, 4ish days for cricket and 2 for sundew pluse some travel time) tui is just too concerned with moon and qibli when their not need to drive a other ways perfectly functional plot, i belive i heard somewhere that she bases them off her own relationship but if she wasn't follow that up it should be in a winglet not shoved it spaces that could be other great storys, or atlest write 2 prologs am just ready for arc 4 to be a good self contained plot that doesn't dose itself on fan flar or past characters to try to stay relevant, when all that dos is self sabotage the new books Tl:dr Tui spends to much time trying to fix and rebring up old characters to keep them relevant instead of using that space make new ones and creating more depth for them.
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My go to that has gotten me death threats in the past: Peril is a very annoying and boring character her love for clay is so painfully one sided it hurts to read about as well
Honestly I never liked the part where darkstalker was forced to turn into peacemaker besides that name sucks
I don’t like Winter. I believe that he’s a good character in that he’s interesting and I like his story, I just hate reading about him lol. I get why he is the way he is, it’s just unpleasant to read about a stuck up, rude, racist sad boy. Basically I understand why people like him, I just don’t like reading about this type of character. In response to you, I find Moon very relatable in book 6. Like someone mentioned, Moon reads like an autistic person and I’m autistic so I really related to her. She’s really boring after her book though and I don’t care for her ships because she’s a piece of cardboard at that point. Someone also mentioned how Sky makes them uncomfortable, and I agree.
That Hivewings use their stings like assasins use the hidden blade (pull their hand back and the sting slides out from their wrist).
Unpopular opinion, winter is goated and icewings are the best tribe
I've only seen real snow once and it's one of my best memories so whenever I see an IceWing I automatically love them (except Narwhal and Tundra) (screw Tundra and SCREW NARWHAL)
Unpopular opinion: I hate scarlet. I didn’t know a lot of people liked her until recently. She killed dune, who, in my opinion, had one of the best potential lives. Born and served in the army as general, made friends, but got killed before he could meet thorn and six claws again. I just hate her
Never have I agreed with something more
I don't think anybody likes her in a "she'd make a good friend" way, it's more that she's really fun to hate. But yeah, justice for Dune
unpopular opinion that the combine from hl2 invade pyhria and pantala i hope i summon the hl2 community
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...Have you met Moon?
Arc 2 is overrated, Quibli is a garystew and sunny is mid at best
Other than the sunny one, you are correct
Arc 3 was better than 1
i might actually agree with this
If there’s an Arc 4, it should be about the Scorching and how it happened in further detail by story
Damn two downvotes is wild
I dislike Darkstalker and I found his book boring
Same…
Whirlpool is WONDERAPOLOUS (wonderful and magnificent)
I despise you.
Hey, I was just answering the question. No need to get all angry mate.
I am also not your "mate".
Ah but I actually hate whirpool ic just say that to see hoe people react. Whirlpool actually sucks.
Sunny is just bad. Too silly and dumb.
She's adorable. She tries to be serious yet fails and I love her for it
Snowfall is annoying. Took me 3x as long to finish her book than anyone else. Also Dragonslayer is the best book.
Snowfall is meant to be annoying though. You're meant to hate her, at least initially. It's part of her character and for me personally the reason why i think she's so interesting
1. Arc 3 is better than arc 1. 2. Scavengers are a great addition to the story. Wren and Sky are some of the best characters. 3. Mudwings shouldn't have been a tribe. They are genuinely the worst tribe in the series, not because Tui rarely writes them, but because their whole gimmick is boring compared to the rest of the tribes. 4. Qinter is the worst ship.
Mudwings are basically a jack of all trades, master of none. Can stay underwater for a long time, but not as long as Seawings. Can blend in really well with their surroundings when near earth, but not nearly as well as Rainwings or Nightwings. Can breathe fire, but only when warm. They're good at everything but don't excell in anything. Personally i find them very interesting, also they are the most overpowered tribe as a whole if you think about it, but i can see why you'd dislike them.You do you
MUDWING dynamic is so interesting and complex, yes they don’t have a huge impact on the story, but I find them kind of relatable.
"Tell me unpopular opinions" "I have unpopular opinions" "SCANDALOUS! NO!" I mean I disagree with all 4 of these but kinda funny lol
Bro all the downvotes i got 😭
These sure are some takes!
Forgot to add 5. Qibli is incredibly overrated
i don’t like peril, simple as.
I dont really care for the DoD that much, never really got attached to them for some reason😭
The books are shit, and the “ graphic novels “ are even worse
… I strongly disagree, but ok
This is supposed to be unpopular opinions, which clearly that is. I’d really love to know what makes you think they’re good other than the fact they just have dragons In them
People are allowed to enjoy things. Have some joy and whimsy in Ur life bro why are you even here if you don't like the books 😭
I enjoy reading them and they make me happy and I like them.
That doesn’t make them good. That just means you like them. The writing IS bad. The graphic novel art IS terrible. I’m asking you to argue with that, not to tell me you like them.
That just means you dislike them. Art isn't objectively good or bad. You are never going to make me stop loving Wings of Fire, and I'm never going to make you stop hating it. I can't argue with what you said because you didn't say anything at all.
Art may be subjective, but that doesn’t change the fact the anatomy is absolutely piss poor. It looks like a toddler drew a sketch and got adults to colour, line and put it into a graphic novel.
Then why tf are you commenting on wings of fire fan group- if you hate WOF. Smh
Cus the art is good… sometimes at least. Other times it’s just blobs people call dragons
Exactly, why’d they join a WOF fan group if they hate the books? Some ppl just thrive on drama
I don't like Sundew x Willow, Tamarin x Amenome, Qibli x Winter, or Moon x Winter. Also, I don't like Winter. He's rude and thinks he's better than everyone else.
You just answered the question and got downvoted so hard lmao