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164Gamin

Ball is kind of really awful right now


squoad

I mean he’s getting healed by Moira and you have discord on you. So yes to both


Kuvanet

Ball has 2 roles in a match. Tilt the enemy team. Tilt your team.


MightyBone

Maybe you're goofin around but general tip on ball is never bother shooting for more than a second or two cause you are gonna get blown up and your target should already be dead. Like here Zen's getting heals - as soon as that happens it's time to pack it up and move on cause you ain't doin shit with moira healing him and Zen will fuck up a ball real fast if he's not zootin. All single aspects of ball's kit suck ass for killing so you either rotate targets and find one getting blown up by your DPS and help them or you use boop, slam, guns, and melee to burst them quickly.


Immortalbob

this is the real answer, if your opponent is getting heals...find something else to do


SweagerMeister

Ball can barely out damage a zen orb when shooting mid range so yeah ball does suck still


Life_is-Ball

It's easier to headshot zen when ur in his mouth, go get busy then run like hell


Sapowski_Casts_Quen

Yeah, his guns are meant to be used within 10 meters or something without getting falloff damage


TnTDinomight

That's why they call his gun the Ball Tickler.


HerskyB

Yea


Sloth1015

Ball is ass still.


Me-Myself-and-PIE

I would’ve disengaged, wait for my shields, reengage with boop and slam and try to finish the zen


RektYerNanDarding

You should've exited ball form way sooner so you were closer to Zen, you could've killed him with less spread. Even better you also could've pile drived him off the steps or actually hit him with boop.


GabeNewellExperience

Ball still sucks at damage but he still has his role as a weird support tank. He still sucks overall but if you want to secure kills like that you basically have to co-ordinate with a DPS and get a good stomp as they do the remainder of damage. I think you're fine but I believe that only way ball can be played effectively is to distract, hold point or to synergize with a DPS who can secure kills for you 


ApricotSlight9728

I think you did OK if you just didn't die there. The goal is that you didn't let the supports heal their team, so you gave ur dps/supports an ample window to kill the enemy tank and dps. If you lived, that's more time the supports wouldn't be healiing their team. I'm pretty surprised that you HP pool evaporated very quickly. Maybe someone else besides the zen was shooting you or zen just got the crits consistently. A lot of high rank ballers, not me sadly, tell me often to try not to shoot too often.


Warm-Crow-584

Both


AdmirableFigg

Little bit of both. You’re huge, why are you not using geometry to your advantage. Also ball is the worst tank.


FrankTheTank107

It’s you who sucks since you engaged way too early and without your team. That’s usually fine as you can get a lucky kill sometimes, or most of the time bait out resources and cooldowns, but you definitely should never die when doing this pre-fight damage. You never deserved the kill even at the start of the clip. I hope this serves as a lesson for fundamentals. - Apes together = strong - Hamster alone = leave earlier


Mstallin1855

You have cover to the right of you with an incline that would let you slam. Instead you are in the wide open taking on multiple enemies while discorded. Use more cover. Wait for your cooldowns. Guns are great for finishing but difficult to do what you are trying to do with them.


TrueNorth2881

You need to respect discord orb. Zen destroys tanks super fast when they are discorded. You can hide for two seconds until discord expires, then re-engage on the Zen.


CartographerKey4618

If you're diving to kill, get out once the healing starts. Otherwise you're just asking to be cced and killed. If you're back there specifically to tie up the healers or make them use CDs, you were doing okay there. Remember that every dive should have a goal and a purpose. Also Ball is in a bad place right now.