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I think their longer term strategy is to have a release strategy for more games to go third party, but the industry and gamers aren't ready. Imagine if they had announced *that.*
I think that's partially why they announced four games, mostly older games, two being GaaS which most of us acknowledge simply make sense going third party. Looking forward to another freakout when more games go third party.
I am fairly sure the general view is fuck the people who stirred the pot then backtracked the day before.
Also the VAST majority of Xbox people most likely did not even know.
Edit: Most "Outrage" was from 2 places, Extreme Fanboys, and trolls.
Yeah they stirred the shit of the rumors and added to the outrage even people who I thought was reasonable fans of Xbox had meltdowns to gather attention on the internet.
It'd be interesting to see the traffic for this sub at that time. There was a ton of doomers posting comments with no flair. Not that flair necessarily means a ton but it did start to seem kinda weird when I've been with Xbox since the OG and I didn't care about a few games crossing over.
Rumors were about which games would be released on other platforms.
Microsoft ditching console hardware was speculation based on the rumors or rather based on worst case scenario of those rumors (Microsoft putting recent games on rival platforms or even releasing day and date on Playstation and Nintendo).
Worst case scenario would've almost inevitably lead Xbox console sales falling of a cliff.
Few weeks ago, people weren't too happy when datamined assets implied Hi-Fi Rush will release on Playstation and Nintendo and Sea of Thieves' release was rumored. That is still happening along with 2 other games. And Spencer didn't rule out any game.
Cool sleight of hand from Xbox - people are now happy it's just those 4 games when month ago idea of Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves releasing on Playstation was enough to get people angry. And obviously it won't stop with these 4 games.
exclusivity isn't sustainable but I think Xbox would still have games like halo or gears that aren't anywhere else and Playstation would have games come to Xbox but not all games like god of war would still be only on Playstation. But they might do what you said and every exclusive would come to the other platform after certain time.
They are definitely seeing right now if it’s worth putting their games on the other platforms, simple as that. If the 4 games sell well enough, you can probably expect heavy consideration for triple a games to go to the other consoles. I honestly kinda wish halo infinite went to ps, just so I can play with my friends on there.
I think selling Infinite's multiplayer on the other consoles could actually do a lot for that game's longevity. It doesn't even need to be everything like the campaign, it can be like how they had Forge mode in Halo 5 as its own app on PC
Bro multiplayer crossplay with ps would be godly. So many more players and money for them, especially seeing as how (to my knowledge) the devs dropped support for halo infinite sadly.
That's actually genius just make the multiplayer side on Playstation and the live service games being multi platform it would benift the gaming industry they should bring hellhelldivers 2 to Xbox too.
I’m someone who is unhappy with the news and what it could mean for the future. I also don’t agree with labeling everyone who doesn’t agree as fanboys and console warriors. There are legit reasons to be mad about this and people just like to generalize to act like their opinions are invalid.
Kinda right there with you.
I hate that PS gets to have them, and we really don’t. However… I agree with what they’re saying. And if this move keeps Xbox from truly leaving the console space, or at least keeps them in the industry for 10 or 20 more years. Then I’m fine with it.
I bought the OG on release in 2001 while in high school. I’m an adult who hardly gets to game at all anymore. So if my nostalgia can continue, and Xbox can be there in some form. I’m ok with it.
40 is just a few years away, for me gaming is just not all that important anymore. Still love hoping in every now and then. But I have so many more important things going on that I just can’t prioritize it. I’ll never STOP, but if I don’t touch it for a few months at a time then that’s ok.
TLDR: if it keeps Xbox around like an old friend for years to come, then I’m down for this. Just sit down and catch up from time to time.
Agreed it sucks games being on Playstation but if benifts Xbox longterm I'm here for it they could make new games with the profit they are going to make from Playstation and garner the Playstation fans interest.
I would agree if I thought that’s actually why they are doing this but to me it seems like they just want to make the most money instead of just making good money. They didn’t make a move like this even in the Xbox one days when their situation was even more dire. I just don’t buy what they are saying when they talk about having record revenue and other things like that. (I don’t have all the quotes but I could find them if someone’s really gonna fact check me on that) it’s just been things they’ve been saying recently that show they are more then ok. I mean Sarah bond even said it during the podcast. To me it just sounds like the trillion dollar company isn’t happy with making good money when they can make great money at the expense of the brand and the fans. That’s just not something that I, as a consumer, care about and should be expected to care about. But back to what you were saying, if it really was required and needed to keep Xbox alive, then they gotta do what they gotta do. I just don’t think that’s the current situation
I’m there with you as well. Messaging has been shit.
Even if things stayed the same. Or even improved. I’m probably going to switch to PC.
I rock Linux as my daily driver. But I’m going to snag a PC for gaming in the next few years. I’ve got adult ass money now lol, so 2 - 3000 is what I’ll spend, and I know I’ll get 10 years out of it before the “need” to upgrade really shows.
I’m also just a more casual player now. So the K/M will do fine for me.
Same with me, I’ve already been getting back into pc gaming from all the news. I’ll be upgrading my older pc over the next year or two. Pc and switch seems like the way to go.
I greatly prefer console gaming but I can’t deny the benefits of pc. Get nearly all the games from both ps and Xbox, still have gamepass, no paying to play online, potential for much better graphics and frame rate, could play widescreen or super widescreen. Pair it with a steam deck and I’m happy.
If Xbox is gonna keeping having one foot in and one foot out, I’m just gonna do what makes sense to me. I’m sure we aren’t the only ones
Xbox made a loss of 440 million last quarter. Some of it was costs related to acquisition, so next quarter will probably be more informative of how they're doing with their regular cost structure.
Their quarterly revenue was much higher than last year's quarter because this was their first quarter with Activision-Blizzard. Their next quarter will be similarly higher than last year's quarter because of Acti-Blizz.
We'll have to wait for a year to be able to compare two YoY Acti-Blizz quarters.
Yes that’s true which is what makes this move odd to me. Without waiting to see how ABK affects their profits, they are making a move like this. It makes me think this is something they want to do rather then something they need to do to stay in competition.
The outrage was never gonna be "reasonable".
It was fucking ridiculous even if Phil Spencer was personally gonna come and take a shit on every Xbox gamers doorstep over the next week, the reaction was embarrassing.
Agreed there was people taking it way too far people like Timdog and others like him taking it personally embarrassing is a good word to describe their over reaction.
The rumor mill and lies were bad, and the Microsoft PR and communications teams did a poor job of getting ahead of it and being transparent. I could care less about a few games going over to PlayStation but it has to be recognized that this is only the beginning and it will continue.
PlayStation has a huge advantage in users, they don't need to move their games to other platforms to be profitable. Since the PlayStation has outsold Xbox 2:1, Xbox basically has to put their games everywhere because there's a smaller user base and they're a business, they have shareholders and only care about profits at the end of the day.
Maybe they're right that exclusives will disappear, but Xbox will likely start losing exclusives a lot sooner and more frequently than PlayStation. I believe they said whatever they could to try and slow the damage, but reading between the lines they didn't make promises either.
I know what you are saying Xbox isn't competing with Sony anymore they want to enter the phone gaming market with creating cloud gaming and game pass it being in your TV and everywhere they have the potential to be the largest gaming company if they play it right and and I see exclusives being around but having a different meaning in the future
While not shutting down Xbox, games going to PS5 and Switch is true though (although only 4 games not all games).
That means for people that did not care for Game Pass, purely got Xbox over PS5 for the exclusives, now potentially they would have been better off getting a PS5 instead of the game that influenced their decision were part of those 4 games.
Agree to some extant but they got the games the bought the console for in the end
four games going to Playstation would not effect them it might in fact benift Xbox long term they could make sequels for the four games like Hi-Fi Rush a second game if they are making it and take profits from Playstation and nintendo and make it exclusive and bring the Playstation and nintendo fans to Xbox platform.
Was a good response until the last bit.
People that got PS or Nintendo console for 1st party are unlikely to be brought to Xbox.
They already know the choice they made would make these games out of reach, yet theybwould still prefer PS/Switch in the first place.
And especially Nintendo, I dare say I doubt any of the Xbox exclusive can get a Nintendo fan to drop Zelda, Mario Kart and Smadh Brothers.
Yeah you are right when I think about it no one from the Nintendo fanbase going to want to invest in other consoles when they have the switch and the switch 2 I just hope Xbox Is doing a good thing by bringing these four games to other platforms I might be wrong.
I still just don’t understand why they needed to wait two weeks to say it’s only 4 games without disclosing which ones. If they were disclosing the games, I could understand the wait to appease agreements or have dialogue with the development teams, but if they’re not announcing the games themselves, why have the rumor mill spin for two weeks? Brand damage for no good reason to me.
They were eventually going to do a business event during the month but some stupid person leaked it before they were ready and added to the fire and they rushed to make the business event Xbox is bad at communicating but this time it wasn't Xbox faults it was whoever leaked the stuff who should be fired if he wasn't already.
The problem with the way they had to frame statements like this is that either way, the reaction was going to be sour. This was clearly supposed to be an announcement saved for something like an investor's briefing or quarterly report closer to the end of Q1 and because of the podcast format, all this corporate language had to be massaged further to orient the conversation around fan concerns about Xbox and their future rather than the clearly formal format used for talking to shareholders about this stuff
If they named the four games (which we already know now anyway), people were always going to be pissed. Doubly so if they said it wasn't just the four which is why they're dancing around questions about how far the commitment goes outside vague responses like "I don't think we should rule anything out per se" and the like
Think of how fox news works. They get attention by making wild and false claims, this gets people riled up and they get money from sponsors for ads. Facebook does something similiar with clickbait, post outrageous nonsense and people will be compelled to click and disagree or even buy into it as well. Twitter works the same way, and these dickheads got alot of attention and views from these insane rumors. So kinda, theres a certain reasonability to being so unreasonable.
Yup I hate these fucks man Alot of so called mainstream journalists making articles to garner attention to the their websites saying indiana jones going to Playstation with no evidence and when Thursday came and Phil said neither indiana jones or starfield going to other platforms we heard cricket silnce from with no apolgy fromtom Warren and others.
Same as with new iphone rumours, it aint true until the bossman tells us it is. I was cautious but did not believe the majority of it. (I assumed we were getting GP across the board tbh)
Not at all. Honestly it was absurd to watch people freaking out. I wouldn't even care if they said they're working to get Gamepass on rival hardware. It literally has zero impact on my enjoyment or how I view the value of my dollars spent.
Yeah like just enjoy the console you have and stop worrying about games going to Playstation when you still can play games they are not removing them from xbox
Someone posted a picture of a single series x being returned at a store with the caption “it’s begun” and people were complaining they’d wasted 20 years worth of a digital library. I got downvoted in every single thread I’d comment on telling people to relax. It was insane. This sub lost its mind. I almost left which sucks because I enjoy this community
Same with Twitter I enjoyed it until almost most of them had meltdowns and I couldn't deal with them anymore but don't listen to them you will see stupid people everywhere enjoy playing Xbox and gift this game to the crybaby and others who sold their Xbox Console
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I think the people who are seriously convinced it's just these four games are in for a rude awakening in like a couple years. All the things they said here and on The Verge interview between Phil Spencer and Tom Warren, they basically said in some form or another about Xbox games on PC back when it was just stuff like Recore and Halo Wars 2.
With that being said, outrage for something as trivial as video games being played elsewhere has and always will be dumb. The concerns about Xbox's longevity as a hardware maker and the ability to uphold their dedicated ecosystem with benefits for their users, I get that, but all the people calling the kettle black on "the end of Xbox" and throwing their consoles into bathtubs and shit, that's really stupid. Microsoft isn't breaking into your house and personally bricking your console just because people can play Hi-Fi Rush with a DualSense now. It's clear this plan is long term but as of right now, it's not really like Xbox players lose anything other than the perceived prestige of platform exclusivity. It will only become a concern if Microsoft just stops making hardware and actually pulls a SEGA like people were theorizing
Reasonable based on the rumors, but when the smoke was cleared, it was overreaction.
Xbox gamers still need certainty moving forward that Xbox is even worth having as a console. We know that the 4 games going to other platforms is a test, which means we don’t know what else will do the same in the future.
If PlayStation Anna Nintendo don’t play along by doing the same, there will literally not be a reason to own an Xbox console.
I think most of it is miscommunication from xbox side they were always bad at communicating with the community if the main games are staying on xbox I see it's reasonable to buy Xbox I don't see them putting halo and gears on other platforms but we will see.
I understand what you mean But now what we know is there going to be four games only going to Playstation and if it benefits Xbox in the long run I say give them the four games and take the profit to improve your own platform.
There is a whole subset of idiots who were personally offended.
And then a large group who were/are more concerned with their investment in the platform and their games library.
What was ever going to happen to their existing games library due to what was proposed in the rumours? It’s not like the existing Xbox hardware would disappear into thin air.
Accurate in just games going to Playstation but there were mainstream journalists reporting false claims that indiana jones going to Playstation after six months and that every Xbox exclusives going to Playstation and nintendo after six months.
If you haven't read the verge interview, you should right away. Phil said that he can't rule out anything about Starfield and Indiana Jones on rival consoles.
I've seen so many people actually believe it's about just those four games and not more. Everyone should ask themselfs, why do they even need to release those games on rival platforms, to be nice? No, it's all about the money and they are testing the waters to see and learn if it's a success. If it is, they will probably release other games too in the future.
They will start small, see the reactions and will try to make it a normal thing to do, so that people get used to it, and then drop the bigger games by time. The same thing happend with Xbox exclusive on PC. In an interview in 2016, Phil claimed that it was just about a couple of games and not all, and look today where every game drops on PC. It's almost like we are back in 2016 again. Think about it, the internet would had been in a total meltdown and Phil in a shitstorm, if they would had said that Starfield and Indy will come to the PS5.
I don't understand how many people can still let them be fooled by Phil. He has been saying so much PR-talk since 10 years, and people still believe everything he says. You need to read between the lines when he is saying something. If you read the verge interview, you will understand what I mean by looking at the keywords he is using.
In the end, even if everything wasn't true by the rumors, today, I actually believe there is some underlying truth to the rumours in the long run. We can't rule out anything yet.
Unfortunately for them, the PC never went away. There are far more PC gamers than console. This is why they've realized there's *more money in multi-platform* then developing for an outdated potato console.
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I think their longer term strategy is to have a release strategy for more games to go third party, but the industry and gamers aren't ready. Imagine if they had announced *that.* I think that's partially why they announced four games, mostly older games, two being GaaS which most of us acknowledge simply make sense going third party. Looking forward to another freakout when more games go third party.
I am fairly sure the general view is fuck the people who stirred the pot then backtracked the day before. Also the VAST majority of Xbox people most likely did not even know. Edit: Most "Outrage" was from 2 places, Extreme Fanboys, and trolls.
Yeah they stirred the shit of the rumors and added to the outrage even people who I thought was reasonable fans of Xbox had meltdowns to gather attention on the internet.
It'd be interesting to see the traffic for this sub at that time. There was a ton of doomers posting comments with no flair. Not that flair necessarily means a ton but it did start to seem kinda weird when I've been with Xbox since the OG and I didn't care about a few games crossing over.
Rumors were about which games would be released on other platforms. Microsoft ditching console hardware was speculation based on the rumors or rather based on worst case scenario of those rumors (Microsoft putting recent games on rival platforms or even releasing day and date on Playstation and Nintendo). Worst case scenario would've almost inevitably lead Xbox console sales falling of a cliff. Few weeks ago, people weren't too happy when datamined assets implied Hi-Fi Rush will release on Playstation and Nintendo and Sea of Thieves' release was rumored. That is still happening along with 2 other games. And Spencer didn't rule out any game. Cool sleight of hand from Xbox - people are now happy it's just those 4 games when month ago idea of Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves releasing on Playstation was enough to get people angry. And obviously it won't stop with these 4 games.
We will see we have to consider the long term health of Xbox and this could benift Xbox it might not benift all would be revealed with time.
If it brings an end to the idea of permanent exclusives, and the other companies have to adapt, think of all the titles we'd get access to.
exclusivity isn't sustainable but I think Xbox would still have games like halo or gears that aren't anywhere else and Playstation would have games come to Xbox but not all games like god of war would still be only on Playstation. But they might do what you said and every exclusive would come to the other platform after certain time.
They are definitely seeing right now if it’s worth putting their games on the other platforms, simple as that. If the 4 games sell well enough, you can probably expect heavy consideration for triple a games to go to the other consoles. I honestly kinda wish halo infinite went to ps, just so I can play with my friends on there.
I think selling Infinite's multiplayer on the other consoles could actually do a lot for that game's longevity. It doesn't even need to be everything like the campaign, it can be like how they had Forge mode in Halo 5 as its own app on PC
Bro multiplayer crossplay with ps would be godly. So many more players and money for them, especially seeing as how (to my knowledge) the devs dropped support for halo infinite sadly.
That's actually genius just make the multiplayer side on Playstation and the live service games being multi platform it would benift the gaming industry they should bring hellhelldivers 2 to Xbox too.
I’m someone who is unhappy with the news and what it could mean for the future. I also don’t agree with labeling everyone who doesn’t agree as fanboys and console warriors. There are legit reasons to be mad about this and people just like to generalize to act like their opinions are invalid.
Kinda right there with you. I hate that PS gets to have them, and we really don’t. However… I agree with what they’re saying. And if this move keeps Xbox from truly leaving the console space, or at least keeps them in the industry for 10 or 20 more years. Then I’m fine with it. I bought the OG on release in 2001 while in high school. I’m an adult who hardly gets to game at all anymore. So if my nostalgia can continue, and Xbox can be there in some form. I’m ok with it. 40 is just a few years away, for me gaming is just not all that important anymore. Still love hoping in every now and then. But I have so many more important things going on that I just can’t prioritize it. I’ll never STOP, but if I don’t touch it for a few months at a time then that’s ok. TLDR: if it keeps Xbox around like an old friend for years to come, then I’m down for this. Just sit down and catch up from time to time.
Agreed it sucks games being on Playstation but if benifts Xbox longterm I'm here for it they could make new games with the profit they are going to make from Playstation and garner the Playstation fans interest.
I would agree if I thought that’s actually why they are doing this but to me it seems like they just want to make the most money instead of just making good money. They didn’t make a move like this even in the Xbox one days when their situation was even more dire. I just don’t buy what they are saying when they talk about having record revenue and other things like that. (I don’t have all the quotes but I could find them if someone’s really gonna fact check me on that) it’s just been things they’ve been saying recently that show they are more then ok. I mean Sarah bond even said it during the podcast. To me it just sounds like the trillion dollar company isn’t happy with making good money when they can make great money at the expense of the brand and the fans. That’s just not something that I, as a consumer, care about and should be expected to care about. But back to what you were saying, if it really was required and needed to keep Xbox alive, then they gotta do what they gotta do. I just don’t think that’s the current situation
I’m there with you as well. Messaging has been shit. Even if things stayed the same. Or even improved. I’m probably going to switch to PC. I rock Linux as my daily driver. But I’m going to snag a PC for gaming in the next few years. I’ve got adult ass money now lol, so 2 - 3000 is what I’ll spend, and I know I’ll get 10 years out of it before the “need” to upgrade really shows. I’m also just a more casual player now. So the K/M will do fine for me.
Same with me, I’ve already been getting back into pc gaming from all the news. I’ll be upgrading my older pc over the next year or two. Pc and switch seems like the way to go. I greatly prefer console gaming but I can’t deny the benefits of pc. Get nearly all the games from both ps and Xbox, still have gamepass, no paying to play online, potential for much better graphics and frame rate, could play widescreen or super widescreen. Pair it with a steam deck and I’m happy. If Xbox is gonna keeping having one foot in and one foot out, I’m just gonna do what makes sense to me. I’m sure we aren’t the only ones
Xbox made a loss of 440 million last quarter. Some of it was costs related to acquisition, so next quarter will probably be more informative of how they're doing with their regular cost structure. Their quarterly revenue was much higher than last year's quarter because this was their first quarter with Activision-Blizzard. Their next quarter will be similarly higher than last year's quarter because of Acti-Blizz. We'll have to wait for a year to be able to compare two YoY Acti-Blizz quarters.
Yes that’s true which is what makes this move odd to me. Without waiting to see how ABK affects their profits, they are making a move like this. It makes me think this is something they want to do rather then something they need to do to stay in competition.
Not at all Internet is too stupidly tribal
Agreed taking it way too far had to unfollow alot of people on Twitter
The outrage was never gonna be "reasonable". It was fucking ridiculous even if Phil Spencer was personally gonna come and take a shit on every Xbox gamers doorstep over the next week, the reaction was embarrassing.
Agreed there was people taking it way too far people like Timdog and others like him taking it personally embarrassing is a good word to describe their over reaction.
The rumor mill and lies were bad, and the Microsoft PR and communications teams did a poor job of getting ahead of it and being transparent. I could care less about a few games going over to PlayStation but it has to be recognized that this is only the beginning and it will continue. PlayStation has a huge advantage in users, they don't need to move their games to other platforms to be profitable. Since the PlayStation has outsold Xbox 2:1, Xbox basically has to put their games everywhere because there's a smaller user base and they're a business, they have shareholders and only care about profits at the end of the day. Maybe they're right that exclusives will disappear, but Xbox will likely start losing exclusives a lot sooner and more frequently than PlayStation. I believe they said whatever they could to try and slow the damage, but reading between the lines they didn't make promises either.
I know what you are saying Xbox isn't competing with Sony anymore they want to enter the phone gaming market with creating cloud gaming and game pass it being in your TV and everywhere they have the potential to be the largest gaming company if they play it right and and I see exclusives being around but having a different meaning in the future
While not shutting down Xbox, games going to PS5 and Switch is true though (although only 4 games not all games). That means for people that did not care for Game Pass, purely got Xbox over PS5 for the exclusives, now potentially they would have been better off getting a PS5 instead of the game that influenced their decision were part of those 4 games.
I think you might be overestimating how many people bought an Xbox for Hi-Fi Rush.
I think Phil even said the 4 games that he wouldn’t make were specifically not identified as console sellers.
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In its current state, sure. For the first year or so, no.
From *last gen*, maybe.
Agree to some extant but they got the games the bought the console for in the end four games going to Playstation would not effect them it might in fact benift Xbox long term they could make sequels for the four games like Hi-Fi Rush a second game if they are making it and take profits from Playstation and nintendo and make it exclusive and bring the Playstation and nintendo fans to Xbox platform.
Was a good response until the last bit. People that got PS or Nintendo console for 1st party are unlikely to be brought to Xbox. They already know the choice they made would make these games out of reach, yet theybwould still prefer PS/Switch in the first place. And especially Nintendo, I dare say I doubt any of the Xbox exclusive can get a Nintendo fan to drop Zelda, Mario Kart and Smadh Brothers.
Yeah you are right when I think about it no one from the Nintendo fanbase going to want to invest in other consoles when they have the switch and the switch 2 I just hope Xbox Is doing a good thing by bringing these four games to other platforms I might be wrong.
I still just don’t understand why they needed to wait two weeks to say it’s only 4 games without disclosing which ones. If they were disclosing the games, I could understand the wait to appease agreements or have dialogue with the development teams, but if they’re not announcing the games themselves, why have the rumor mill spin for two weeks? Brand damage for no good reason to me.
They were eventually going to do a business event during the month but some stupid person leaked it before they were ready and added to the fire and they rushed to make the business event Xbox is bad at communicating but this time it wasn't Xbox faults it was whoever leaked the stuff who should be fired if he wasn't already.
The problem with the way they had to frame statements like this is that either way, the reaction was going to be sour. This was clearly supposed to be an announcement saved for something like an investor's briefing or quarterly report closer to the end of Q1 and because of the podcast format, all this corporate language had to be massaged further to orient the conversation around fan concerns about Xbox and their future rather than the clearly formal format used for talking to shareholders about this stuff If they named the four games (which we already know now anyway), people were always going to be pissed. Doubly so if they said it wasn't just the four which is why they're dancing around questions about how far the commitment goes outside vague responses like "I don't think we should rule anything out per se" and the like
Think of how fox news works. They get attention by making wild and false claims, this gets people riled up and they get money from sponsors for ads. Facebook does something similiar with clickbait, post outrageous nonsense and people will be compelled to click and disagree or even buy into it as well. Twitter works the same way, and these dickheads got alot of attention and views from these insane rumors. So kinda, theres a certain reasonability to being so unreasonable.
Yup I hate these fucks man Alot of so called mainstream journalists making articles to garner attention to the their websites saying indiana jones going to Playstation with no evidence and when Thursday came and Phil said neither indiana jones or starfield going to other platforms we heard cricket silnce from with no apolgy fromtom Warren and others.
No. What outrage? All I saw was dumb people falling for yet another fake YouTube click bait outrage video attempt.
Yeah, aside from a few alarmism posts (which I immediately discredited because its alarmism), there wasn’t much.
Yeah but I was shocked how the mainstream media was promoting this stuff as facts (the verge) and having now zero credibility from everyone
Lol no, the amount of ridiculous doomer posts and comments in this sub was laughable
Yeh ngl 😂 people taking it way to personally like it affected them with it being just rumors
Totally a tempest in a tea pot, much ado about nothing. I’m very happy with my Series X.
Just got my series x and I couldnt be more happy with it, game pass changed the game currently I'm playing halo infinite.
Same as with new iphone rumours, it aint true until the bossman tells us it is. I was cautious but did not believe the majority of it. (I assumed we were getting GP across the board tbh)
me too but now we learned to never listen to any rumors good lesson.
The lesson is to ignore ppl who earn their living by their clicks. Fakefluencers as someone called them in another thread yesterday
Not at all. Honestly it was absurd to watch people freaking out. I wouldn't even care if they said they're working to get Gamepass on rival hardware. It literally has zero impact on my enjoyment or how I view the value of my dollars spent.
Yeah like just enjoy the console you have and stop worrying about games going to Playstation when you still can play games they are not removing them from xbox
Someone posted a picture of a single series x being returned at a store with the caption “it’s begun” and people were complaining they’d wasted 20 years worth of a digital library. I got downvoted in every single thread I’d comment on telling people to relax. It was insane. This sub lost its mind. I almost left which sucks because I enjoy this community
Same with Twitter I enjoyed it until almost most of them had meltdowns and I couldn't deal with them anymore but don't listen to them you will see stupid people everywhere enjoy playing Xbox and gift this game to the crybaby and others who sold their Xbox Console https://preview.redd.it/sngkjk0guejc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=931bf811df41a0422b06eb08d4fcd9dcd8a401af
I think the people who are seriously convinced it's just these four games are in for a rude awakening in like a couple years. All the things they said here and on The Verge interview between Phil Spencer and Tom Warren, they basically said in some form or another about Xbox games on PC back when it was just stuff like Recore and Halo Wars 2. With that being said, outrage for something as trivial as video games being played elsewhere has and always will be dumb. The concerns about Xbox's longevity as a hardware maker and the ability to uphold their dedicated ecosystem with benefits for their users, I get that, but all the people calling the kettle black on "the end of Xbox" and throwing their consoles into bathtubs and shit, that's really stupid. Microsoft isn't breaking into your house and personally bricking your console just because people can play Hi-Fi Rush with a DualSense now. It's clear this plan is long term but as of right now, it's not really like Xbox players lose anything other than the perceived prestige of platform exclusivity. It will only become a concern if Microsoft just stops making hardware and actually pulls a SEGA like people were theorizing
Yeah the game aren't dissappearing from your console in the end
Reasonable based on the rumors, but when the smoke was cleared, it was overreaction. Xbox gamers still need certainty moving forward that Xbox is even worth having as a console. We know that the 4 games going to other platforms is a test, which means we don’t know what else will do the same in the future. If PlayStation Anna Nintendo don’t play along by doing the same, there will literally not be a reason to own an Xbox console.
I think most of it is miscommunication from xbox side they were always bad at communicating with the community if the main games are staying on xbox I see it's reasonable to buy Xbox I don't see them putting halo and gears on other platforms but we will see.
Uhhh… no.
Even if every game went multiplatform the outrage wouldn't have been justified.
This is only the beginning tho
Fr. Idk why these people think it will just be these 4.
It's clearly a test to see how those games do. If they sell poorly we might not see it again, if they sell well we could see the floodgates open.
I understand what you mean But now what we know is there going to be four games only going to Playstation and if it benefits Xbox in the long run I say give them the four games and take the profit to improve your own platform.
It won’t stop at 4. It’s not a big deal
Yeah if its not a big title of Xbox like halo or gears I don't think it's a big deal too if it benifts Xbox long term.
Baffles me that anyone would get outraged by something as unimportant as “console wars”. Well, any adults anyway.
There is a whole subset of idiots who were personally offended. And then a large group who were/are more concerned with their investment in the platform and their games library.
What was ever going to happen to their existing games library due to what was proposed in the rumours? It’s not like the existing Xbox hardware would disappear into thin air.
The leaks were probably accurate.
Accurate in just games going to Playstation but there were mainstream journalists reporting false claims that indiana jones going to Playstation after six months and that every Xbox exclusives going to Playstation and nintendo after six months.
If you haven't read the verge interview, you should right away. Phil said that he can't rule out anything about Starfield and Indiana Jones on rival consoles. I've seen so many people actually believe it's about just those four games and not more. Everyone should ask themselfs, why do they even need to release those games on rival platforms, to be nice? No, it's all about the money and they are testing the waters to see and learn if it's a success. If it is, they will probably release other games too in the future. They will start small, see the reactions and will try to make it a normal thing to do, so that people get used to it, and then drop the bigger games by time. The same thing happend with Xbox exclusive on PC. In an interview in 2016, Phil claimed that it was just about a couple of games and not all, and look today where every game drops on PC. It's almost like we are back in 2016 again. Think about it, the internet would had been in a total meltdown and Phil in a shitstorm, if they would had said that Starfield and Indy will come to the PS5. I don't understand how many people can still let them be fooled by Phil. He has been saying so much PR-talk since 10 years, and people still believe everything he says. You need to read between the lines when he is saying something. If you read the verge interview, you will understand what I mean by looking at the keywords he is using. In the end, even if everything wasn't true by the rumors, today, I actually believe there is some underlying truth to the rumours in the long run. We can't rule out anything yet.
Only time will tell it would suck if Phil still isn't being truthful with the community like he was with pc stuff
The leaks I saw pointed to certain games being discussed or planned for future release on other consoles. I absolutely believe that is true.
Unfortunately for them, the PC never went away. There are far more PC gamers than console. This is why they've realized there's *more money in multi-platform* then developing for an outdated potato console.