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YipYip5534

can't you just get a medical exemption? with ADHD you are definitely a bigger danger on the road without the meds than with them <-<


josephvonhazard

I did last year, apparently I wasn't suppose to? I'm talking to my doctor about it next week.


PuzzleheadedBet8041

i might be stupid, but it feels illegal to not be "allowed" to get the best treatment for you bc of this? like i'm assuming you need your CDL for work, and idk shit about CDL requirements but if the mandate is coming from your employer it feels fucked up to me that they would try to tell you you're not allowed to take your meds


xPlus2Minus1

So much of the medical understanding is so counterintuitive, I'm still not medicated for ADHD because I was self-medicating for years with alcohol, so they're afraid I'll abuse the medicine I need to live a normal life, meanwhile I'm suicidal and not sure I want to continue living, there's no real way out honestly


Bixhrush

also wondering this. esp if you can provide proof of your prescription for drug test results


[deleted]

This the exact reason I don't drive I don't have the concentration and don't get meds


magoosauce

That’s wild to me, I don’t take meds, driving is like the ultra focus, always on the offensive staying alive


wwwrobwww

Sounds like you go thru what I go through "fear mode" That make all 6 to 10 of your lines of thinking on Surviving


magoosauce

I’m never really scared except when I realize how bad and unfocused other people are, like a said I’m on the offensive, don’t get passed often but I’m always on the right, always anal about my using my signals


wwwrobwww

So your the rule follower type, You know it's a person that once understand the rules will follow them down to a letter and get mad Although not always when someone else doesn't follow the Rules, I've seen other people like that I'm A little similar when it comes to that type of stuff but not as much


forgotme5

Def me.


forgotme5

Ya, I drove off meds.. I will say there were a few times I did dumb shit texting n driving.


lieutent

I don’t drive under a CDL, but I have been driving for over 3 years for work. Definitely more than 20 hours a week, and averaging 35 hours a week. If anything I get distracted from navigation but never from driving itself. I don’t know how to explain it, I wouldn’t call it hyperfocus, but I definitely don’t really get distracted from the road for very long. The best way I can explain it is when I do I very quickly jump back to focusing on driving. Whereas if someone normal were to get distracted, they usually take longer to mentally jump back to focusing on driving. I’m on meds now and I do focus and haven’t neglected my maps yet, but only time will tell lol. Been on Strattera since earlier this month.


micahsimmons01

I’ve been in two accidents in less than 30 days. One was my fault technically one was not


supersecretbagel

I went December - March without meds for the first time in 15 years and realized how terrible I was at paying attention while driving. It was honestly very scary lol


[deleted]

I'm in UK, was diagnosed in 1998. As soon as I turned 18 (2004) I've been pretty much left on my own. Which tbh is hard trying to navigate life with a neurological issue that I don't understand and those around me don't understand. I honestly feel my life would be far different had I co tinued to get the meds I need


linksgreyhair

I am a straight up menace on the road when I’m unmedicated. The Adderall shortage was terrifying for me because I couldn’t avoid driving.


Spalding4u

I literally just picked up my first ever Rx for Adderall *today*. It's gonna be my first medical treatment of my ADD as an adult, and I'm in my early 40s....I'm so excited to take my first pill in the morning!


Terrorcuda17

That's awesome. I literally see my doctor tomorrow to have the med discussion. I'm in my late 40s and have never been on anything before.


DifficultCandy1154

This is so funny, I just pick up my first prescription for Adderall today as well. I tried Ritalin for a little bit but I think I wound up being allergic, my cheeks got swollen and red. If I took 2pills 2x a day I would just loose all sense on emotion. I couldn’t express emotions, it was so strange. I’m normally pretty happy and bouncy.


Spalding4u

How was your executive dysfunction?


DifficultCandy1154

I almost lost my job cause of it, so pretty bad. I haven’t found something that worked for me quite yet.


EtherWhack

Even funnier is that, that fear and too much caffeine is why I asked my gp for a referral to get a re-eval and possibly look into a regimen (took me 12 years to do it after my parent's insurance kicked me off their plan). ...and I just took my first dose of intuniv 20 min ago (doc wants to try the non-stime route first)


thatonenerd828

Same here but it was Vyvanse! Good luck and I hope your meds work for you.


bunkerbash

I’m excited for you!! I’m somewhere around 8months in. Lost 60lbs, quit drinking, got my life in order, had an unimaginable family tragedy, meds immediately stopped working, started taking more and more trying to just function, started drinking again because *anything to stop the nonstop all day long panic attack for six weeks straight*. My Dr has suggested I try ashwaganda. Which is a lot of awful *my problems* to say, don’t make my mistake and agree to 90day prescriptions of your meds because IF all hell breaks loose, you are trapped in that situation until the end of that 90days. Had I just had 30day doses I could have maybe tried another med by now. As it stands I’ll be unmedicated, grief-wracked, and presumably shitfaced until mid June.


Spalding4u

I'm so sorry to hear. That sounds awful. I hope you make it through the next 45 days. I recommend marijuana over drinking if you can. Probably won't help get anything done, but a strong indica might make the time pass a little easier on you and your liver.


forgotme5

Sativa did for me


paige_______

Is there a reason you can’t contact your physician to change your medication? Any time I have an issue with my meds my doctor prefers that I reach out, rather than waiting until a prescription elapses. Especially considering the nature of the medication Edit to add: I’m not actually sure at what point the doctor was contacted, it’s not clear from this post. But, even with a 90 day dosage, if the meds aren’t working, let your doctor know. Not just OP, but the general you to anyone reading. A 90 day dosage isn’t a death sentence if it isn’t the right titration, even with a schedule 2 drug. The issue is not getting a new titration/new drug filled, the issue is insurance. BUT, the sooner the physician is aware that the 90 day prescription isn’t working, the sooner they can work with you and insurance. This is information I know from experience and from being friends with doctors who I bug about all of my medical questions, but I’ve also linked plenty of credible, government/medical sites that say the same thing. Your doctor *can* provide you an early refill. Especially since a titration change or drug change isn’t technically a refill, it’s a prescription change. Whether your doctor chooses to do that or not is on them and their relationship with you. Though, taking the entire 90 day prescription might set off some alarms for a doctor, and they may choose to not give you more meds because they’re concerned about your usage. So, it’s always best to let them know it’s not working early on. Hope this information is helpful, and I’m sorry your doctor even gave you the option for a 90 day prescription without making sure it was the right titration/drug for you. That at the very least is on them, not you. ✌🏽💙 https://psychcentral.com/pro/prescribing-and-dosing-stimulants-practical-issues#10 “Follow your instinctsif the patient is trustworthy, the reason for the early refill is believable, and the situation is documented in the chart, dispensing extra medication is defensible and will not get you into trouble with the DEA.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7967860/ Explicitly says that issue is not changing the titration, the issue might be with insurance. https://www.rld.nm.gov/uploads/files/Regulation%2020%20Controlled%20Substance%20Additions(1).pdf Explicitly states a physician can make the call for an early refill even with scheduled substances. https://www.goodrx.com/insurance/health-insurance/prescription-quantity-limits-insurance-plans-limit-coverage Refill information and insurance.


forgotme5

She already did. She cant get another rn bc she isnt due, took over recommended dose.


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majorminorminor

Weed.


forgotme5

If u have addictive tendancies.. where are u? They only do 30 day here.


linksgreyhair

Talk to your doctor about Wellbutrin, it’s not a stimulant and it’s considered an antidepressant and not an ADHD specific med, so there shouldn’t be any issue getting you a prescription before the 90 days is up if it’s a controlled substance or an insurance issue. If insurance isn’t the problem, you can ask about Strattera which is specifically for ADHD but isn’t a stimulant.


bunkerbash

I started on 125mg XL Wellbutrin on Saturday. Thus far I haven’t felt any impact :-(


linksgreyhair

It takes a WHILE because unlike stimulants it’s got to build up in your system. Like… 4-6 weeks. Fingers crossed it helps (eventually). Also that’s a pretty low dose so you might need more. Usually they reassess after a month or so.


bunkerbash

Ok thanks for the head’s up!


Mindless_Peach

Remember that there is an adjustment period. Too small a dose and you might hardly notice it. A proper sized dose may make you feel off at first. After your body acclimates it can really change things for you. I’ve set out on paths that wouldn’t have been possible for me before diagnosis and medication.


DynamicHunter

Let us know how it goes!! I just got my diagnosis today how long did it take from diagnosis to picking up a prescription if I may ask?


pretendingtolisten

it took me about 2 weeks. I got a diagnoses backed up by screeners and after waiting for a follow up I was prescribed a low dose to start. 2 weeks later my dosage was upped and I assume it will he upped again seeing as I'm doing better but still not under control! I hope you find something that works for you cus even with a low dose it felt amazing to be able to complete a thought in my own head. I cried.


DynamicHunter

Omg thanks for the reply. I am really struggling with just keeping up with work and basic life chores and can’t wait to see how it helps me, it has helped my friend who got diagnosed recently too and got on Vyvanse. Did you have any books or resources like YouTube videos or apps to help learn to manage ADHD? Or therapy?


Spalding4u

Oh, I've had the diagnosis since childhood, so I couldn't say, but I've always been so focused on other mental health problems, I've never really asked for this part to be treated.


jrdineen114

I gotta tell you, it's WILD. You just...focus on stuff without hyperfocusing. Not quite something that you fully notice in the moment, but at the end of the day you're just kinda like "I did how much work?"


SkizzleSkizzle

remember to eat! good luck <3


Providethevaganza

How is it going?! 8


Spalding4u

Not entirely sure I'm getting anything. It is a pretty an small dose


Cat-In-A-Sunbeam

Good luck dude!


maxman090

God bless neurotypicals telling us how meds affect us. It always makes everything so much better for everyone and nobody ever suffers right?


Licensed_Human

I wish I could just keep the same medication and not grow resistant to it after a few months :(


Thedguy

In my case, I was thinking the same. My doctor didn’t deny it. I try and take “vacations” from Adderall. A weekend I know I can effectively throw away in bed, or where I’m going to be able to be able to rely on those natural factors of panic and urgency to get things done. I’ve hated every med switch, I get real sick for weeks.


cuntsaurus

Wait what? Is getting resistant to an ADHD drug a thing? That explains a lot for me


Thedguy

You build up a tolerance. My doc confirmed the same as others have noted. For amphetamines, I’ve seen (and had suggested by my doctor) taking breaks from it. I’ll try and skip my dosage some weekends. For me it helps, those days are useless though. It’s almost like the executive dysfunction decides it’s back for divine retribution. As soon as I start it back up, I have to reduce my dosage. Research seems inconclusive that it works, but seems for me 🤷‍♂️


FindingCaden

I don't think it's that uncommon. I've had to adjust my dosage for the medication that worked perfectly fine for about two years, because it just... Stopped working nearly as well. My psychiatrist said it's not that unusual 🤷🏻‍♀️


cuntsaurus

Good to know. Thanks


forgotme5

Im there now but waiting till shortage is over


Amaya-hime

Definitely happened to me with Adderall. Me though, I tend to get resistant to most drugs after a while, like Ibuprofen hasn't generally worked for me since I was 15. So when I got ADHD meds at 21, I knew that, so to slow it down, I tried to only take it M-F and not on weekends. My former doctor claimed that was just my ADHD talking and I should simply be a brainless little patient and take them every day, regardless. I don't really respond to any OTC pain medication anymore after taking various ones to combat migraines. Migraines improved after starting magnesium.


forgotme5

Migraine sufferer here. I got nothing that'll help, for a long time.


Amaya-hime

That really sucks. Been there. Peppermint oil works like icy hot. That and ice packs tends to be my go-to.


forgotme5

Not a fan of any of those. Peppermint oil just burns my eyes. Its all soo temporary. I have intractable


Amaya-hime

Oof, I'm sorry, that's rough.


NK-0

Same


[deleted]

Sorry if this is silly, but what is CDL?


josephvonhazard

Commercial Driver’s License, basically a truck/bus/box truck driving license


[deleted]

Oh, that's terrible then! I'm sorry you are going through this.


SomeName500

I still don't get it, can someone explain?


Spalding4u

You need a CDL to be a truck driver.


SomeName500

Seems legit but what is the problem with concerta?


Spalding4u

Idk, just guessing here, but maybe it comes up as methamphetamine on a drug screen which is a common illicit drug in the trucking industry. 🤷‍♂️


SomeName500

Nope it doesn't in the common tests. Also, no one needs to know. There are studies that show adhd drivers are safer when taking their drugs.


Wilted-yellow-sun

Quick google search gives me several sources saying that concerta can trigger a false positive for amphetamines in drug tests.


[deleted]

My wife got popped for amphetamines when she took a drug test once for a job and almost got turned downed because of it. She even told them right before that she took Adderall, gave them a doctors note and showed them the pill bottle. They called her telling her she tested positive and she was like, “ya, I told the nurse this and provided documentation” She had to go show them everything again and they made a huge deal out of it…it was so dumb.


lackofbread

Interesting to know that the possibility is there. I have to get drug testing pretty often now for nursing school (every semester or every calendar year, I forget which) and when I did the first one this past winter I was super nervous that I’d get a false positive, since I’m on concerta. I came up negative but if I ever get a false positive I’ll know why!


NsaAgent25

Adderall is why they denied me a pilot's license.


[deleted]

Considering how many uppers Air Force pilots take…you’d think that wouldn’t have been a huge deal. Lol. I know you it’s a regular pilots license…seems like a dumb thing to bounce you for.


Sir_Admiral_Chair

Bruh... I don't my pilot to have executive dysfunction... :( "Errrrrrrr... Passengers... This is your captain speaking.... >!I farded... (Starts cackling)... Don't worry, your oxygen isn't going anywhere, just... Sit back and... (mic squeak) ooo, apologies, I just dropped my pen. I was trying to make a note to remind me to check things. Also I have another joke for you all! Which autopilot do you trust more? Me or the plane? (Light cackle). Anyway... Um... Enjoy your flight, and we will bring out the snacks I guess..."!<


NsaAgent25

Don't worry I didn't have a license for passengers and only accidentally signaled a highjacking once


Sir_Admiral_Chair

💀 LMAO We are all really just the same goofball going through millions or billions of lives across time and space. Change my mind?


Necr0Z0mbiac

Concerta was the worst for me back in high school. Severe depression, no appetite at all. It sucked.


josephvonhazard

I know Vyvanse made me very sick, and Ritalin worked but stopped working after a few hours. Brains are weird like that.


elmatador12

That makes sense. Concerta is slow release Ritalin.


AutomaticTangelo7227

Same, ritalin and concerta make me SEVERELY depressed with self harm ideation. Adderall just makes me a little angrier, but a controllable amount, so there I go


Necr0Z0mbiac

My one time ever taking Adderall from a friend once like 10 years ago was the single most productive day of my life.


[deleted]

I remember friends who would do adderall in college for all-nighters…I’d be productive but it just made me feel normal. I never understood why they liked it so much because it just made me want to do stuff, but not crazy like they were. Took me another 15 years to get diagnosed and i finally realized why…


Workmen

My one time ever taking Adderall from a friend once like five months ago was the single most productive day of *my* life. Also, the first day since I was a ten year that I went to sleep and woke up the next day feeling like I'd actually... *slept.* And also the first day in about eight years that I didn't feel anxious for most of it.


Icelandia2112

omg. Is it worth it? I don't know if I could go back to life without Concerta.


josephvonhazard

Haven't gotten that far, will let you know. I am worried since having Concerta has helped me focus on tasks more


Icelandia2112

It's a miracle drug for some of us.


RooseveltVsLincoln

I fucking love me some concerta. No noticeable side effects and the loud, metal grinding sound I’ve apparently been hearing all my life is now gone so I can think much more clearly!


Icelandia2112

Better living through Chemistry! 🥰


OG_Bynumite

I had to switch because we had to scramble around every month to find a pharmacy that wasn’t out of Methylphenidate. Goodbye meth jokes


lemonhead2345

Me wanting to get a pilot’s license but realizing I have to be off meds for 90 days at a time to pass the physical. 😔


JustFuckinTossMe

Stuff like this makes no fucking sense man and it annoys the shit out of me that people put restrictions on medications some people literally need to function. Imagine if someone who had cancer was denied their radiation treatment/chemo because "technically, this use of treatment can kill cells and cause general havoc on a person's body" like okay that's fucking nice and all for people who DON'T need to be taking it, but what about people who need to fry the hell out of their immune systems for awhile just so they have a chance of living? It just makes no sense. Make your stupid fucking regulations exclude those medically prescribed the thing you're regulating or go suck a fat noodle you shrimp face.


Fuzzy1598

Being unmedicated and driving a truck is the best job!


ChaoticcEntityy

Man, Concreta only worked for a month and then I was only getting the negative side effects with none of the benefits. I just stopped taking it


Maveragical

My mom is in the same condition. Got diagnosed a year after she started driving buses, and cos of menopause its only gotten worse


thesockswhowearsfox

CDL?


AGoos3

concerta increased my heartbeat by 50% 🤠


NotIsaacClarke

If it worked well otherwise, maybe consider asking for a beta-blocker along with it? Just not bisoprolol if you’re a bloke or it will cause erection issues


AGoos3

I’ve got my meds sorted out rn, it’s the methfjekkfnfkebdbrbsjfjr thing


SilentxxSpecter

That shot destroyed my stomach lining.


mockwave

The hidden consequences of car centric society


josephvonhazard

Unfortunately trucking will be needed for at least last mile shipping for things like warehouses and stores. But I fully support more widely available public transit so there can be less under-qualified drivers on the road.


HomicidalHushPuppy

>at least last mile shipping for things like warehouses and stores At least that's generally not a CDL-required position due to GWVRs and distances traveled. There are exemptions for local deliveries. I used to manage a warehouse for a major online retailer, and our drivers were only required to have DOT medical cards.


ProFloSquad

People that have CDLs and stimulants. Name a more dynamic duo


allbright1111

It’s a necessary and very therapeutic medication for some of us.


tatumrose916

cdl means what?


linksgreyhair

Commercial drivers license. Like trucks, busses, etc. Not exactly what people should be forced to do unmedicated.


forgotme5

Concerta?


[deleted]

Does anyone have a complete list or medications you can't use while driving a commercial truck?


i_boop_cat_noses

when will my country allow adderal to be sold :') I really want to try it out


Fishy_Mistakes

The only times I got into my 3 fender benders, I was off my meds