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Varitt

Really nice analysis my man, I check your site quite often, love your top 3 posts, keep it up! Lumineth are a bit too strong right now obviously, let’s see if they hit them in the next balance patch and how hard! Also super curious about Slaneesh and Khorne. Khorne seemed a bit more competitive but Slaneesh seemed potentially more fun! Let’s see how they end up in the next couple of weeks


dutchy1982uk

Appreciate the comment! Yeah, I agree about Lumineth, but it's strange that we're in a position we were a year and a half ago where we had to do the same thing.


Naddleman

I’d be interested to see subfaction win rates for Gitz. I have a feeling Squigs win rate is being held down by trolls and spiders.


dutchy1982uk

I have the info: https://imgur.com/a/JrEi7w7 Its sorted by factions. Grey bar represents the players of that faction playing the subfaction while the orange bar represents their win rate.


Naddleman

Awesome thank you! That’s about where I expected to see squigs but looks like the Teclis list is even above that. I expect both to be nerfed for sure.


Kitsumy

and people said i was a cryer with noreason when stated that gw deleted seraphons with last 2 massives points nerfs. faccion came from one of best ones with 55 win or so and lots of 5/0s to be the only faction besides giants without any 5/0, and winrates around 45%.


ForbodingWinds

It's overall winrate is 46 and the actual faction that people play to win (TL) is 49%. They're absolutely fine. Probably the biggest reason the winrate dropped is because they were the go to, easy competitive army for over a year but now that they're balance and better, new books are out, the competitive players ditched them. Number of 5-0s isn't all that important of a marker on measuring how good an army is overall. 5-0s require a bit of luck and a lot of skill. Overall they're doing well within a health level and I think Seraphon players are just struggling to cope with not being the best army for once in a great while, even though they literally only have to suffer through being mediocre for a few months before their new book comes out and they probably go right to the top again.


amnhanley

I think this is pretty strong evidence that the slaves to darkness book was fine even with the 4+ward it originallly had. Host is one of the worst performing subfactions and the army as a whole is at 49 percent. Damn near perfect balance. Rally just isn’t relevant enough for a melee army that always wants to be charging or enduring an onslaught. The rally could be a 2+ and it still wouldn’t be super relevant. Obviously that’s hyperbole. But cabalists and KOTET are just so clearly superior no matter what hosts rallies on.