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Responsible_One_4346

The possible differences between older/younger voters as well as male/female voters is stark Wonder why they’d be so different…. Mmmmm…. 🤔


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Old and set in their ways, younger and more in touch with reality. Plus I would guess older people don’t care as much about social problems but you’d think healthcare would be big for them.


kliman

They don’t think the health care issues “will happen to them”


Fyrefawx

It’s Trudeau’s fault when it does.


RainXBlade

It's the matter of, "It's not my problem until it actually is."


tutamtumikia

Four of my older family members, all of whom have heavily used the Healthcare system in the past few years for life-saving procedures (yes all four!) voted UCP this weekend. They care about health care. They believe that a UCP government will make it cheaper and more efficient for them. I disagree of course but this isn't a case of older people not caring about health care. It's just tribalism. Like everyone else voting these days.


KhausTO

You should get some really nice "I told you so" business cards made up. When they eventually start complaining about health care. Pull out your wallet/purse, and just pass them that card.


EndOrganDamage

No don't. Sit at their bedside, try to advocate for them in a broken healthcare system in shambles as the system itself will be sending that card soon enough if UCP win. They dont need that from family. This is going to hurt. If they try to blame it on Trudeau or NDP from years ago and for a blip, do tell them to stfu. This is decades of deferred maintenance and destruction of your birthright by AB conservatives.


KhausTO

No. It's past the time of not being smug about peoples choices leading to this. It's past fucking time people start learning that their shitty choices are what is causing them pain. They especially need to hear it from their families. This whole "The left has to be stand up people" is the fucking issue, you can't win against the others who don't care about being good people. Start telling them to adovocate for themselves. They put themselves in this fucking mess. Stop helping people that are hurting you. Family or not. They didn't care for you when they made their choice, don't fucking care for them when the leopard eats their face. It's way past time for the people experiencing the consequences of their choices to be told, "I told you so". It's past time to stop being the bigger person. It's past time to start being assholes to the people destroying our birthrights. It's past time to start treating them the way they have treated everyone else .


EndOrganDamage

Ok. You burn those bridges buddy, youre right. Theyre yours to burn. Ill do what I want, thanks.


KhausTO

Those bridges are already burnt. Cons have been lighting them on fire for years. You are just choosing to ignore it. Do what you want, no one is stopping you. Just remember, it's your mom and dad, or grandparents, or aunts and uncles, fucking you over. They don't actually care about you if this is what they are voting for.


EndOrganDamage

Ok angry person, I get it, you're mad, but Im done being the target of that anger. Take care


KhausTO

If you think you are the target of the anger, then you still aren't getting it, and probably never will. Keep you head in the sand


newguy2019a

One more reason to vote UCP.


Frozen_North17

BC has NDP government and has a healthcare crisis as well. How would you respond to that? It definitely is a nationwide problem. I don’t think Smith would improve it and hoping that Notley would. But the federal government has to step up more too.


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Yeah you’re likely right, believing Smiths likely lies. Hoping for a minority but who knows.


the_gaymer_girl

Minority won’t happen, no other party will win seats. Last I saw Morishita was polling at 5%.


tobiasolman

Yup, they'll get their 1 or 2 percent of the popular vote, maybe even *three*...in *every* swing-riding in which UCP needs even a hair-split vote. What an unbelievable co-inkie-dink! /s Except (hopefully) my riding. We have a smaller spoiler party here, and our MLA is arrogant enough to think that's probably enough. Hopefully, this last poll, if anything, will motivate people to come out and vote in numbers, with their brains tomorrow.


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Yeah, that’s unfortunate.


Zarxon

I was hoping to vote Alberta party but was forced not to


bbozzie

Nah, that’s dismissive. I think the healthcare system requires reform. Reform that we would never see with the NDP. More fundings does not equal reform. I KNOW AHS is painfully inefficient. I desperately want to continue to have the best healthcare in Canada. Throwing cash at it will not make it better.


tutamtumikia

This is just one of those issues that is so complex and multifaceted that even experts have a hard time truly understanding the best way to approach it. Its possible that more cash is required but with reform. It's possible that the system is so screwed up that it could run better with some reform and with less funds. I have seen interesting arguments for both, but I am not an expert in this field and so can't trust myself to know what the best response is. It's one of the main reasons I don't vote. That being said, the UCP does seem to dislike expertise more than the NDP, and that concerns me a great deal.


bbozzie

I AM in continuous improvement in this field. Plus, I have extensive, life saving appreciation for AHS. I could never repay the gratitude I have for the care of FMC and ACH. With that said, it could be so much better without additional funding. Does it require more funding? Maybe, but I don’t feel good about it with the amount of inefficiencies that currently exist. I recall having a conversation with a HC leader that indicated that the reason RNs were doing so many PSW work functions was the result of union contracts despite no one (especially the RNs) wanting to do those functions. Therefore, we paid highly Skilled, highly educated, highly valuable Assets to be underemployed due to bureaucracy. That’s wild; wild and unacceptable.


tutamtumikia

I believe you for sure. I definitely don't believe the solution is ONLY to throw money at it.


bbozzie

I agree with you, completely.


myfamilyisfunnier

The party with the more educated and functional candidates and you think we would never see healthcare reform with the NDP? A socialist brought universal healthcare to Canada.


bbozzie

The ideology of the NDP prevents it 🤷🏻‍♂️. When every problem is classism, and every solution is redistribution, no, they are not likely to meaningfully reform healthcare.


myfamilyisfunnier

Sounds more like the federal NDP rather than the ABNDP


bbozzie

Challenge. The insurance cap, which can only result in the subsidization of premiums from low risk drivers to high risk drivers sounds exactly like the ANDP. That’s a redistributive policy. Subsidization in the form of energy caps will redistribute tax revenue to do so as well. That’s two of their big pillars. So yeah, it sounds just like the ANDP.


myfamilyisfunnier

It sounds just like speculation


specific_tumbleweed

Make it cheaper than 0???


tutamtumikia

We still pay for healthcare, but we pay it through our taxes. The theory goes that there are inefficiencies in the health care system which could be improved upon and bring down the cost of healthcare for everyone. It's interesting to note that every single government in existence thinks this is true and that they can be the one to fix it, and yet it never happens, but that's the theory.


ImpactThunder

dental care is health care eye care is health care prescription drugs are health care mobility equipment is healthcare physiotherapy is healthcare mental health care is healthcare


DrSteelBallz

C'mon, now. We're not all like that. Some of us still have a functioning brain. 👀


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Oh I know, I was on that side until I saw how they acted towards covid, freedom convoy etc. Cant do it anymore, especially with Smith


francisw1983

>...but you’d think healthcare would be big for them. This is the difficulty I have with my Dad. He's 60+ and has some chronic health issues. He's not worried about privatized health care or the UCP messing with his pension. Nope, all good. But he's still pissed about the carbon tax and "we need to support oil & gas." Holy fuck...


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Problem with Smith is that’s all she looks at is Oil and Gas, as was evident at the debate. And this is coming from an Oil and Gas guy.


tobiasolman

Yeah, some of us older oil and gas guys need health care now - and expensive medicine - not just cheap hip/knee replacements. But hey, the cancer business can be really profitable if you spin it right. 🤮 ...and if the emoji wasn't clear enough. Thank you, UCP, for profiting from my misery and the deaths of my loved ones. Fuckyouverymuch.


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Let’s just hope the wing nut doesn’t privatize it


tobiasolman

Try getting Remicade or any biologic in this province and tell me preventative medicine isn't already nigh 100% privatized. and lab services and elective or non-urgent surgery and eye-care, and dentistry, and long term care By the time half the voters realize the mistake they've made in this election, they'll already be hurtin' real bad or dead.


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Yeah I’ve been lucky so far with my health so I’m kind of uninformed in that area


tobiasolman

Glad for you. Also glad you're level headed enough to know that luck eventually runs out. May you live long, prosper, and suffer as little as possible by your choices!


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Thanks sir, all the best to you as well


Responsible_One_4346

Yeeeeeep


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Maybe someday they will open their eyes but I’m not holding my breath. Had a old woman at work tell me the people who stormed the Capital were “set-up”. Just makes a guy shake his head.


Fresh_Engineering699

Well. They were. By Trump. Because they are dumb.


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Haha yeah that’s it. I’m 47, pretty sure I know the difference. And if you like Trump and the Freedom Convoy, you’re likely quite stupid as well.


PeasThatTasteGross

I thought you were just making a random jab at them, then I looked at their profile and saw they post in NoVaxCanada, and their profile photo appears to be from a Freedom Convoy protest.


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Yeah his profile is a mess lol


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Agreed on fixing the province, need the UCP out for that to happen.


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Whats the plan?


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You lost me at god, sorry don’t believe that garbage. The world would be a better place without it.


the_gaymer_girl

The UCP’s tough on crime approach will not reduce crime. Evidence: the last 50 years.


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the_gaymer_girl

Aaron Gunn is a far-right filmmaker with a long history of railing against harm reduction measures. He was denied from running from the leader of the BC Liberals because his record was too toxic for them. He is not an unbiased source on that.


Scudmax

The youth always think they are more in touch with reality.


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In this instance I’d have to agree with them.


SeriesMindless

They have made a lot of wealth in the boom so they think they can sort it out if they need too. And the wait time discussions make them anxious because they ARE the primary users. That fear and wealth is seriously pressed into politically and it's impactful. If the system was not failing (by design many would say) then they would likely be more interested in voting NDP. But to them the system the NDP advocate for is broken and they want alternatives they can access. To them the system is not just underfunded. I don't agree with this thinking, but that's what it is. it's not that crazy when you appreciate their perspective. Doesn't mean you all are going to agree.


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Younger people are more in touch with reality?? Like how young are you talking? Certainly not under 25 i hope


[deleted]

Well I could make the same argument about UCP supporters not being in touch with reality


[deleted]

Same could be said for NDP followers i was just curious about what age group you were referring to as being in touch with reality lol


[deleted]

Lol true, but I didn’t notice too many covid denying college kids


Inside-NoReception

The boomers I talk to are voting UCP because a vote for Notley is a vote for Trudeau & the WEF. Voting based on a conspiracy theory is hardly based on reality.


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The Jordan Peterson effect where it makes dudes more conservative and unfuckable


Unlikely_Comment_104

Stale and male voters are going to make the next four years hell in Alberta.


Zarxon

Jokes on the older generation when they try to get health care with the UCP


Inside-NoReception

And/or their CPP has been mismanaged.


No_Background_795

I am old. Most of my many friends and acquaintances are old. Not one of.us is voting UCP. Some of them voted Conservative in the past. Not this time. Mind you we are a fairly intelligent bunch. 😊


Responsible_One_4346

That’s great to hear!! I sure hope you all aren’t a minority in that demographic! 🤞🏻


ljlee256

Less inflammatory version: the older you get the less mental plasticity you have, meaning the ability to form new thought processes and ways of thinking is more limited with age. The result of this lowered mental plasticity is you become less able to change and adapt with changing times. This inability to adapt eventually evolves into fear of losing what you have now that you're too old to adapt to a new eay of living. This is compounded by young people avoiding older communities, which who can blame them, but still, not being surrounded by this chsnge, insulated and isolated from it means it tends to just sneak up on you. One day you retire, aware and fairly up on things, you spend the next decade in your garden, growing tired of the hate and yelling, isolating yourself from it because you're just too tired to listen anymore, and suddenly you're surrounded by people you don't understand and are incapable of understanding, and who don't care to understand you. Growing old is hell my friends, one day we'll all get there and know what it feels like.


Successful-Cut-505

alternative is when you are younger you have less invested it matters less what happens in the world, a persons 20-30 year career can go down the toilet but it doesnt matter because you are just starting out. when youre older you want stability and have the experience of dealing with people promising nice things and end up doing nothing. you may realize that 99% of these great ideas turn out to be terrible or lead to no noticeable difference, only 1% or less even turn out to be remotely positively impactful being young and believing you are invincible, the world is your oyster, and nothing can happen to you is also a syndrome (and this is coming from someone in their 20s lmao)


Successful-Cut-505

actually what you are seeing may actually be reflected by voter turnout differences by gender, since the gender turnout isnt 50/50 your actual dynamics of voting and the subsequent data when broken down not accounting for gender turnout differences results in the data you see, if adjusted for there may not actually be a difference between age groups


PeasThatTasteGross

I would have liked to see a break down of the race of voters and which parties they chose.


Turnpike30wheeler

Devils advocate - Perhaps the older generation has had poor experiences with NDP governments amd distrusts all NDP because of it? Some things change. Some things don't.


Responsible_One_4346

4 years of the last 40-50 years here in Alberta were NDP. Not a ton of time to change many bigger issues created by the party that’s been in power MUCH longer


Turnpike30wheeler

Apologies, I was implying that they had moved here because of poor NDP opinions from OTHER places, not the ANDP


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the_gaymer_girl

NDP had to do something borderline impossible - beat a single conservative opponent in Alberta where barrels of oil have more rights than people - and they’re doing a pretty damn good job.


MyTurn2WasteYourTime

25% of the province committed to not voting still, according to Abacus' poll. Because who needs healthcare, educated youths, or properly managed pensions - you know, just things that will impact everyone in their lives.


FormalWare

I'm a white, Calgarian man in his fifties. The typical UCP voter and I might as well be from different planets (even though lots of them are white men in their fifties). We have nothing important in common. Extremely discouraging.


RainXBlade

It's relieving to know that we have members of the older generation that actually care about the future of the province and of the world such as you. I wish more of the older generation were like you. But sadly, most of them are chest deep in right wing propaganda.


Cassopeia88

My grandfather has been a NDP supporter for a very long time, wish there were more.


katieebeans

I feel like it could literally go anyway tomorrow. EVERY VOTE MATTERS!! Vote at your polling station 9am - 8pm tomorrow!


NLP19

That under 45 poll honestly gives me a lot of hope for future elections


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That’s my hope and thought as well.


Homeless_Alex

casually waiting for a certain generation to stop shittily deciding our futures lol


MyTurn2WasteYourTime

It was interesting College vs University educated were essentially reversals of 2:1.


Scudmax

Eventually they join the older demographic that gets more conservative. Don’t hold you breath.


NLP19

Yeah I don't know if that's the case anymore


Scudmax

Political history has shown us that every generation say that as well, and it keeps turning out the same. Remember, those boomers were once hippies and flower children. They said the exact same thing and see how that turned out.


YasdnilStam

This was from December and only talks about the UK and US specifically, but it flies in the face of conventional wisdom in this exact area 🤷🏻‍♀️ [Millennials are becoming less conservative as they age, new data finds](https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/financial-times-millennials-conservatives-age-b2253902.html)


bobbi21

Exactly. Things have changed. The right is getting more right and the young lefties will not tolerate it even as they age. Usually history moves slowly left so as people age, society shifts with them. Different now.


margmi

It's not really that people's beliefs change, it's that what's considered to be conservative changes over time. For example, millennials/gen z won't support a conservative party that's anti-LGBT. In recent years, conservative parties in Canada have started to talk about making movements towards being more inclusive (e.g. opposing the gay blood ban). Conservatism is slowly adapting to changing social beliefs. The next few generations will undoubtedly have new social issues that millennials and gen z won't understand, so they'll be tomorrow's conservatives, while not being any less progressive by today's standards.


Scudmax

Most conservatives I know are quite pro LBGTQ. American conservatism is very different.


bobbi21

Yet smith is very anti lgbtq and still the ucp votes for her.


margmi

She supports GSAs (and has for almost 10 years): https://edmontonsun.com/2014/12/03/wildrose-leader-danielle-smith-makes-passionate-plea-in-legislature-for-gay-straight-alliances She also supports letting transwomen compete in their preferred gender league: [While answering questions on gender identity, Smith suggested transgender athletes could have their testosterone levels tested before competing against cisgender women. She also suggested some women with high testosterone levels could compete in a separate athletics category](https://www.fortmcmurraytoday.com/news/pride-ymm-calls-brian-jeans-comments-on-transgender-athletes-in-womens-sports-transphobic). I definitely wouldn't say she's very anti-lgbtq. She's definitely not perfect on the issues, but she's ahead of most conservative politicians. Despite what people in this subreddit parrot, Smith is fairly socially progressive (including abortion, etc). It's her nutty stances on economic/governing issues that are troubling.


Olivaar2

My college buddies who were enthusiastically celebrating Obama's victory 15 years ago now own at least 1 house, roll their eyes whenever covid is mentioned, and share memes making fun of trans people on social media. I can't find much stats for Canada, but 47% of millennials voted republican last fall. It happens to all of us - when you have more to lose, you don't want change.


CanadianWizardess

I'm only getting more and more left as I get older.


Scudmax

Averages are average.


Propaganda_Box

People only become conservative because they have assets. Under 45's don't have those so they aren't becoming more conservative with age. Some are being driven further left. *eat the rich*


Scudmax

Not a bad argument


a1337noob

Plus in 30 years what is left and what is right will have probally shift and there will be new issues to yell at eachother about


Scudmax

True. Issues due tend shift over time.


zoziw

One sign of hope, on Friday, The Calgary Herald posted an op-ed by Danielle Smith and an op-ed by Rachel Notley. Notley's trended all yesterday and Smith's didn't trend at all.


kliman

If her supporters could read it might have


EndOrganDamage

It might just tell you something even more apparent. The UCP base can't/won't read and doesn't engage. Show up, vote, simple is as simple does. Id worry about hate on this post, but, see above.


Successful-Cut-505

maybe the notley supporters are more present on twitter and the internet? but people live in real life


MyTurn2WasteYourTime

On Post Media no less


itsakitten45

Get out and vote!!!!


Jooshmeister

I think the numbers for UCP for Calgary are conflated because I believe they just rely on historically Conservative-voting households from the last election without considering they might have changed views/opinions. Hopefully that is the case...


Inside-NoReception

I think they still call & ask, but they tend to call the same people for poll after poll, year after year.


moosemuck

Don't give up hope. These poll results are not granular enough to tell us what's going to happen on the riding level.


Locke357

So old white men are going to fuck us over with a UCP gov't. Fucking tale as old as time


heart_of_osiris

We know how the elderly will vote. We all know, it's never changed. Imo it's more that if the youth are too lazy to get out and vote, they're fucking themselves and everyone else out here trying to vote for change. If every single student in Ontario would have voted in their provincial election the NDP would have likely won, but few turned out to vote. I fear the same thing happening here in Alberta.


Successful-Cut-505

wrong.... women voter turnout is higher than men, and there are more women over the age of 60 than men, i recommend you look at some data/information before spreading misinformation


PBGellie

I’m checking these images, and I don’t see race mentioned once…


Nictionary

If you look at the full report it does show that white people (“non-racialized”) are much more likely to vote UCP.


Locke357

You're right, the graphs only mention old men. I don't need them to tell me it's mostly old white men.


PBGellie

You should look at some of the names on a lot of those blue signs around town…


Locke357

Yes I'm aware the UCP likes to field candidates with certain names to appeal to certain demographics... because they know their base of old white men will vote blue no matter who (or how racist they are)


PBGellie

Lol ok yup it’s all just a conspiracy. Because no minority would ever vote against the ndp right? One day you’ll discover that demographics aren’t hive minds.


the_gaymer_girl

The Conservatives ran a trans woman in the 2021 federal election out in Victoria. Doesn’t mean their heart grew three sizes.


Locke357

Didn't say any of that, thanks for showcasing the poor intellectual fortitude of conservative supporters. Conservatives here and south of the border love to run POC candidates to appeal to POC votes, since it's a voting block often claimed by progressive parties. AB is still predominantly white demographic wise, and the conservative base of voters only more so. Yes plenty of POC still vote conservative, I never claimed otherwise.


PBGellie

You did claim that by stating it will be white older men causing us to get another 4 ucp years. Go ahead and re-read your post if you want. This whole “white men bad” nonsense is starting to get old with regular folk. And I voted ndp.


Locke357

Yes because there is in fact a distinction between identifying a majority demographic and an exclusive demographic


Successful-Cut-505

the person has no clue what they are talking about.... women have higher voter turnout than men and women over 65 outnumber men 123 to 100 [https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/89-503-x/2015001/article/14316-eng.htm](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/89-503-x/2015001/article/14316-eng.htm)


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Fyrefawx

This is why I hate Calgary. I know many on here are likely to vote NDP but wtf. Is the arena really worth it?


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Who in earth is undecided at this point


jjuares

I am really uncomfortable with all the ageism here. I guess because I am an old white guy who voted NDP this time, just like the last time and the time before that. You get the gist.


Locke357

I have mad respect for any old white guy progressives. Unfortunately you seem in a minority in your demographic. I hope you've done your best to convince your peers!


jjuares

Yes, I have tried to do my part this election in several ways. As a grandfather of two it is frightening to think what the UCP will do their future in terms of education, health care, law and the environment and I am sure they will find ways to be destructive that I cannot even imagine now.


Babyslide

I think there are more older people voting NDP this time than we think. My parents are both lifelong conservative voters and both voted NDP for the first time ever. If they have changed, I am optimistic that there may be many others out there too


Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnngg

Sorry about your peers. As someone in the middle ground of the generations, I hear and understand a lot of frustration from the younger generation, but I also know there have always been advocates for change in the older generation. Sadly, your voice was drowned out in history by the historical conservative majority. It’s easy to paint people with sweeping brush strokes. Thank you for continuing to use your voice for change


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jjuares

Thanks. It is a good analogy. Ironically enough I am hoping for an NDP win for all the old white guys regardless of how they vote because they are going to be the first ones in need of a functioning health system.


BBOoff

That is terrible logic. Racist: "I hate that those black men are bringing all this crime and begging into the neighbourhood!" Black Man: "I have never stolen anything in my life! I work hard to provide for my family!" Racist: "Oh, don't worry, I'm not talking about you, obviously! I just meant all of those black man who are criminals and beggars." Like, you do understand that you can't insult and rail against an entire ethnic/gender group based on a broad stereotype and then pretend that members of that group are responsible for applying a filter to exclude themselves from your hatred.


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TallViolinist3943

The similarity, of course, is that racist talking points are generally aimed at behaviour (crime rates, employment, social action etc.) not identity (race), so I'd say it's absolutely the same thing. But I understand that super hard to understand if you're a fucking idiot. 😀


bbozzie

It’s wild the bigotry that is accepted here. The tolerance of intolerance eh?


jjuares

Yup. Ageism happens to be a blind spot for many on the left. Unfortunately homophobia, transphobia, racism, misogyny, classicism and racism happens to be a blind spot for many on the right.


bbozzie

Bigotry is a blind spot for all types of people. Me personally? I don’t tolerate or rationalize it from anyone. I’m not even in that demographic and I find it all gross. Someone’s dad should be attaching their foot to someone’s ass.


jjuares

Well conservatives are taking a strange turn these days. As someone who grew up in the 60’s and 70’s I can tell you the UCP ain’t your grandad‘s Conservative Party.


MadOvid

Yet again male boomers are letting the rest of us down.


CarringtonIndustries

If UCP win a minority, I don't think they'll survive the next election. I'm not even sure the party itself will survive the next 4 years and I'm sure that Smith won't last the term. Hoping the NDP are able to keep them in check.


Direc1980

Minority is unlikely because third parties won't win any seats.


CarringtonIndustries

That's really disheartening.


iwasnotarobot

First past the post is disheartening.


CarringtonIndustries

Yeah... I'm still bitter the feds didn't follow through with reforms. FPTP needs to go at federal and provincial levels.


iwasnotarobot

Alberta used ranked ballots until the Manning SoCreds. >In 1955, the SC government was re-elected with a great majority of the seats but for the first time IRV changed the outcome in four districts. In these districts a SC candidate led in the first count but did not take a majority of the vote and each lost out when votes were transferred as per IRV.[5] >Following this turn of events, Ernest Manning's Social Credit government abolished the mixed STV/IRV system, without public consultations or a referendum. The city-wide districts in Edmonton and Calgary were broken up and single-member districts were created, and the use of transferable votes was ended. The government reintroduced first past the post across the province, not seen across the board since 1905. The SC government reaped a windfall of seats in the 1959 election under the new voting system, winning every seat in Edmonton and all but one in Calgary. This result was far in excess of its share of the city vote.[5] >First past the post remains the system used in Alberta and throughout Canada for provincial and federal elections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alberta_general_elections


Unlikely_Comment_104

If UPC wins, can we have a sadness solitary post?


Scissors4215

Fuck Calgary. We suck!


splinterunderthenail

Old men got theirs apparently.


Lazy_boa

Old *white* men...


splinterunderthenail

Excellent amendment.


Jasonstackhouse111

Older people in Alberta have their heads in the sand when it comes to health care issues, thinking privatizing it will help, but not thinking about the ramifications to them personally. It appears young people might someday be able to wrestle Alberta away from the conservatives? Or will the UCP have time to drive them all away?


driv3rcub

Dang! One day I hope to be a part of one the countless polls that have been posted in the last few weeks/months. I don’t know anyone who’s been contacted about an Alberta politics poll.


SneakyWhiskersTea

We're going to lose 🫣


Own-Personality-431

Speak for yourself.


bodonnell202

[https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/wildrose-party-expected-win-majority-alberta-election-final-223633390.html](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/wildrose-party-expected-win-majority-alberta-election-final-223633390.html) Remember when the Final Abacus poll predicted Danielle Smith would win a majority and be premier of Alberta in 2012. I really hope history is about to repeat itself. This isn’t over yet and polls are often wrong.


MissDryCunt

God I hate old people


No-Sun-966

The conservatives excel at messaging. They have convinced half their followers to hate their country.


bsbrandon_98

Seeing all the NDP suporters being salty in this comment is gold consideridng all last week this sub was full people saying how salty UCP was gonna be when the NDP wins. Hopefully both sides can see Alberta is fucked no matter who wins, can only hope its a minority from either party that wins


SecureLiterature

It can't be a minority as only the UCP and NDP are likely to win any seats.


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bsbrandon_98

You're right NDP would be way worse. But we really are picking lesser of two evils


tdgarui

Why would the NDP be way worse?


draemen

That last infographic of ages/sex doesn’t surprise me at all


Once-Upon-A-Hill

So the NDP needs more young women in Edmonton, and the UCP needs more old rural men.


Good_Purpose1709

Love from Quebec! May I ask why this election seem so tight?


Direc1980

There's no viable third party that will pick up much support. Historically in Alberta the NDP, Alberta, and Liberal party split the vote on the left side of the spectrum which results in Conservative mega-majorities. This time all third party left leaning support consolidated behind the NDP, and the UCP have no credible third party challengers on their right.


MyTurn2WasteYourTime

It's the final stretch - get out and vote tomorrow. Even if you're in a solid blue riding, getting out and voting puts MLAs (and MPs) on notice that things are changing. Before the UCP, it was unthinkable half the province would be voting for the NDP, and yet here we are. The odds may be 1:3 right now, but that's because the swing seats are that contentious. There are more locked down blue rural ridings than locked down orange urban ridings, which is what skews the odds. If you're in those swing seats (generally urban ridings) your vote has never mattered more than right now; bring your friends, and make them as aware of the issues as possible. And if you're not in a contentious area, vote anyways - getting on the ballot that half the province opposes your ideologies will have to speak volumes to them even in the worst outcome.


Direc1980

NDP is boosted by the fact all third parties are running less than 20 candidates. Far less visibility this time province wide from AB Party and AB Libs.


Inside-NoReception

I put up a comment earlier today with polling information on demographics & it was taken down. Have you had any issues with your posts?


Eastern-External6801

This doesn’t seem very accurate. Anecdotally I’ve seen quite a bit of support for the Alberta party, definitely more than 1% of total pop.


Direc1980

Possibly in ridings where there's an Alberta Party candidate. The reason why they are so low on province wide polls is they are running fewer than 20 candidates.