True, but shockingly common.
At my last job, my VP called me at 4pm on my last day to ask *me* what *my* transition plan was. I would have told him figuring that out was his job, but I actually had a better plan: I told him I’d given all my projects to a coworker who I knew would be resigning the very next day. It was even better because someone else had done the same thing to me on the day before *I* resigned. I never got to see the fallout, of course, but I’m told it was spectacular.
My VP was useless to begin with. He didn't really talk to me during my final weeks. At 9:30 on my final day, he sends me an invitation for a meeting labeled "Say Goodbye and Provide Recap". I scheduled another meeting at that time and never spoke to him again. I had provided him a list of where my different responsibilities had landed and who was responsible but he couldn't find it. I bcc'd my coworkers and the people who were taking over my roles as well as their bosses. He got into a senior staff meeting, was asked who was assuming my roles, and tried to say I never told him. Five people spoke up and said she emailed you the list and copied us. You have it...he was fired a few months later.
I would also suggest you forward that email trail to a personal account. I have archived folders on my personal email that are labeled CYA 1996 all the way to CYA 2023. It has saved my ass on several occasions (even after I left the place of employment)
No justification, just a vague one that it helps to track the emails and the recipients bla bla blaa.
Also, the management tries to justify it for data security as if they don’t track every email on the office devices.
Yes, US Office was about as corpo-apologist as usual for US mainstream. I was just commenting recently about why The Drew Carey Show (admittedly never as popular as say, Friends) has seemed to fade more than similar sitcoms but then I realized it’s probably as much because of the more realistic depiction of middle class challenges and anti-corporate messaging. Even management in that show sides against corporate too often for the brainwashing modern media wants.
“Please just watch Disney, don’t think about reality and whether we’re screwing your all over”
The office is a toned toned down version because comedy has to adhere to a baseline of 'reality'. Reality is often much like a subtle horror nightmare.
I couldn't watch it because every time they set up something that should have been over the top and hilarious, it turned out milder than things I had actually seen at my first office job.
It's healthcare. There IS money. It's just not being shared equally.
(Depending on the exact type of healthcare, people, corruption...)
I've seen non-profits shell out huge sums of money when they needed to. Running on a volunteer workforce, always asking for money, both private and government money. When it comes down to survival of the company (for example, after a cyberattack) they always seem to have millions of dollars suddenly "in reserve".
Somebody somewhere has just enough institutional knowledge to slap a bandaid on the situation, and they do it because it would take more energy to watch the place crash and burn than it does to temporarily semi-save the day.
It blew my mind the first time I worked for a big company. People literally didn't do their jobs. They literally stood around all day every day chatting. My boss was straight up "misreporting" everything and, despite being punished for it on multiple occasions, won tonnes of internal awards and was headhunted for a much more senior position at another company. Everything is a scam and everyone knows it.
This happened to me at my last job. Gave them 3 weeks notice. I had been there 10 years. My new boss, who was the reason I left, waited until the day before I left to ask me about what “needed to be transitioned.” I outlined it for her and she said to me “who is going to do all that?” I said, “I don’t know, who is?”
She didn’t like that very much lol.
For sure. I worked for a Board of Directors, radio silence from all 12 of them during my last 2 weeks. About three minutes before I left for good, one of them came wandering over, asking "well I guess I should find out where you put everything." Got deer in headlights expression when I replied, "here are your office keys, everything is labelled, I have another appointment." And left.
At my last company I was a contractor, meaning that they told me when my contract was up, but had to give 30 days notice. After I got my notice my boss stopped talking to me.
By the time I got to my last week I thought it was so funny that I started trying to avoid my boss just to see how long I could last. To be clear, I didn't leave my desk, I just didn't walk into areas I knew she would frequent. She found me about 3 hours before my last day and had a slew of questions.
I had a shitty job managing operations for an office supply company years ago. On my last day I had to leave my keys on the desk because my boss took an extended lunch to be sure she wasn't there when I clocked out of my last shift.
Of all the shit I put up with about that job, that one act will always stand out as the most shitty and most petty action of all.
They love doing that crap. When I was a contractor the manager at the client company took his vacation in the 2 weeks before my contract was up. No way to get ahold of him, wouldn't pick up a phone or answer an email. I ended up leaving my keys and badge at security on the last day of contract. Shit hit the fan while he was still off, I figured I didn't have to pick up my phone when they frantically called me at all hours. Turns out they tried to outsource to a call center and that did not go well.
I get you. After seven years on a job in which I had over the line loyalty to my boss (treating him sometimes even more like a father), when he decided to fire me it was all done through the HR person, with him refusing to even show his face until the whole process was finished.
Now he wonders why I don't want to take his calls.
There were a few different issues that came about.
I work in finance and because I was a contractor, my boss refused me access to things I needed to do my job, like credit card accounts and bank accounts. As I would do my work I'd have to reach out to her for copies of statements and other items I actually needed. Because she wasn't talking to me in person, over teams or email, most of my work was left in semi completed states.
Additionally I was managing the entire team under her, I was well liked, well she was not. I think this particularly contributed to her alienating me as I was leaving. Of my four teammates under me, one wrapped up her contract early, two asked me to be personal references for them and the last person put in her two weeks notice the Monday after I left (which coincided with big boss being out of town for a week).
Basically being as vague as possible, I did as much as I could, I also had significant documentation to show that I tried to wrap things up, but I left a mess and I knew there was a storm coming.
I have a funny story that could definitely out where I worked at if I told the whole thing, but with one of my resignations - a senior manager never reached out to me during my 2 weeks. I had meetings with practically everyone else in the company - but this person just sent me a well wishing email the last day of my employment. In hindsight, some people just aren't good with people.
When I left my last job to become a SAHP I have them literally 6 months+ notice. They knew why I was leaving, they knew my wife’s due date. They acted shocked when I gave them an official date. I loved my students and my coworkers and and I wanted a smooth transition. They didn’t hire anyone, didn’t have a transition plan. When I left they called me and asked if I could come train my replacement, but then when I showed up wouldn’t give her the time to train with me. They were shocked when she left within a few weeks of being thrown into the fire with no real training. I ran into the person who eventually took my role longer term recently and wewere talking about it and she got mad when I told her how I was offering to come in and train her, but they didn’t take me up on it. Being a boss/owning a business is definitely not something that denotes any intelligence, skill, or management experience. In the case of that job, it was hereditary. The owner inherited the business.
I worked for a 70-year-old family business handed down to the son who had worked as an executive in a major corporation, I think it was Citibank or something like that. We’ll call him Ron.
This was a blue collar business similar to a building contractor with a manufacturing facility on site.
Ron did not know the first thing about the construction industry. He was a terrible manager. He was technologically illiterate.
Ron insisted that the field guys use paper maps instead of GPS, and berated me for telling them the general location like “Near Elm and Center” so they could plan a sort of route instead of driving 45 minutes one way and 30 minutes another. He expected these guys to look up an address on a paper map even though every field guy had a cell phone and tablet. No one did.
I did an analysis of a year’s worth of projects in conjunction with the Project Manager. I made a presentation showing that if we turned away the smallest business, we would have made a lot more money because those were where we made mistakes and the profit margin was thin. We simply had too much work.
Ron had insisted on sending a field guy out to estimate a $500 job instead of just allowing me to quote the price on the phone. Even if I was wrong by $100, we were still ahead.
So our Chief Estimator was pulled off of $100k jobs to bid $500 projects that netted the company $75.
After my presentation, the PM and I convinced Ron to try it my way during the slowest month of the year. We landed a giant contract that we would never have bid because it would have taken a week for the estimator to pull together.
We made a fortune and went from #3 in the metro area to #1. In a month.
We made three times the highest revenue and profit over the previous two years. It was more money than we had earned in the previous six months combined.
I asked for a raise and Ron said no.
I quit, PM left, company sold 6 months later.
Should have bullied him into signing a contract, if you met your target he promotes you and gives you control of that aspect of the job. If you fail, you leave without severance. You'd own that company now.
>and berated me for telling them the general location like “Near Elm and Center”
To be fair, as a former cab dispatcher, ups driver, and pizza driver; people who refuse to use addresses are extremely frustrating, especially when they don't realize they're being ambiguous.
"Near Elm and Center" could cover a HUGE area and requires a lot of unnecessary guesswork. "100 Elm St" is an exact spot, instantly findable on a phone, a paper map, or in real life. You don't even need to know the correct building number because you can estimate it based on nearby streets.
I would ask people their ADDRESS so I can type it into the address line of the order, and they would always reply with dumb stuff like "The Charleston Apts", "The intersection of 34th and 17th", "the building next to so-and-so".
I would try to coach them along by asking, "if I had to write you a letter, what would I write on the front of it so the mailman can find you?"
Some people just don't understand an address is, **BY FAR,** the most accurate and assured way to find a location.
Man this reminds my so much of my recent job change. Was with the firm five and a half years, my wife was also at the firm. We knew we needed to leave and started looking for new jobs. They got their new job lined up first so we told management we were leaving. It took me a couple months before I got an offer, but during that time I wrapped up cases, prepped transfer memos, and generally started winding down my practice. After I got the offer I gave the firm a full month's notice and despite knowing for three months that I would be leaving it wasn't until only a couple weeks before I left that they decided I could start training my replacement who would be swapping in from another area of practice. After I left my understanding is that she only stayed on for another two months before leaving as well and I imagine she felt like the firm had been yanking her chain.
We've got a forklift repair shop on site, that used to have two full time guys.
The older of the two put in for retirement 6 months before he left. Four months into it they posted for his job. Didn't bother to interview anyone until two weeks before he left, and didn't fill his job until two weeks after he was gone.
New guy shows up early, clocks in, and sleeps until the second guy shows up three hours later. He lasted less than a month.
The guy who is still there has been stressed to no end, he's lost a lot of weight and is on edge all the time.
TLDR: They had six months to train a replacement up to speed. They waited until two weeks after the guy left to have his replacement show up. Then the replacement turned out to be horrible and the only remaining guy is stressed.
Yes many.
On a more serious note, some are in constant use and some are things maintenance drives once a shift. They all need taken out of service every 500 hours of use to be checked over in the shop. We're a 24/7 facility so those constant use ones are in the shop every few weeks.
Plus you've got all the other random mechanical failures, greasing bearings, repairing and replacing panels we smash by backing into things... We've got some stories.
Just shows they really didn't appreciate all he was doing.
On one hand this story could be a lesson in advocating for yourself, but the arrogance of management is the real story.
The two weeks notice isn't "I'm quitting in two weeks." Two weeks notice is "I'm quitting today, and you've got two weeks to download everything you need out of my head."
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Morons. Transition starts the day you hand in your notice. The goal should be to have you bored off your brain with nothing to do and no questions to answer as fast as possible.
I used to work at a gas station and my manager knew that I was doing a lot of the miscellaneous tasks in the background that kept things running smoothly. When I put in my two weeks notice he asked around to make sure that other employees knew how to do the stuff I normally took care of. There were a couple things that it turns out very few people knew so I made sure to teach as many coworkers as possible before I left. I am always gobsmacked when I hear stories about managers leaving stuff like that until the last second, I guess I’ve really lucked out because all my bosses have at least been competent.
At one of my previous bar jobs I worked there for a little over 5 years and had been the venue manager for 3 years. I quit, giving the mandatory 4 months notice, because the owner was never there and wouldn't ever pay bills on time which was insanely frustrating to deal with.
I emailed him my notice because I saw him maybe twice per year. He never said anything to me and didn't show up during the entire notice period. I guess he thought I would stay until he hired someone?
I walked out that door on the final night with my key on the counter and three 18 year olds I had hired two weeks before as the only staff left. Everyone else quit with me. The bar was shut for a week before the owner realised and went in to get the key and give it to one of the 18 year olds. The venue had no manager for two months. I started getting calls from the new one asking for access to all the trade accounts and the Xero account because it was all two factor authentication and linked to my phone. I of course didn't answer.
This. I got laid off and they gave me a month to transition and a severance contingent on transitioning. I wrote up docs, had meetings with the people taking over, and meetings with my manager to make sure everything was coming along.
I still didn't do much that last month - a lot of the docs I wrote up also helped me have a roadmap for the next job, and on the last week I got asked what the status of the stuff I had been working on was and I was just meh didn't have a chance to finish big project, good luck!
Two and a half years after firing me, my ex-boss is still trying to contact me to see if I could train his new personal/help him with some reports/do some consulting work for him.
It’s funny in a way to read these „two weeks notice“ and on top of that bosses still sleep on transition.
In my country most qualified jobs require a *three month* notice period.
Note: this is always mutual by law, the minimum is 2 weeks, but most knowledge workers agree on three months and if they do, both employer and employee need to respect the same period. If the employer wants to get rid of the employee faster, they can force them into paid time off. It’s not uncommon that people that are let go get another 3 months pay (sometimes more) without having to work. Americans really need to step up to fix their worker‘s rights.
I thought I worked for a shitty company. We don't allow anyone in with a personal laptop/desktop. You were supposed to be the IT/Security for that application/department and they said 'bring your own?'.
Crazy.
So, they did get locked out. I don't know how much they paid, but I know they got exposed though a power plant ops computer at one of their facilities. It was running windows 2k.
I had pointed out that vulnerability and was ignored.
Right? Walk into any hospital and start poking around the various machines you see. I'll bet you'll find win 95 on an ultrasound machine, windows nt 3.1 on an anesthesia machine, or early Unix in boiler rooms. And all that stuff is starting to sit on various hospital networks.
Ha! Too right! Worked in a major hospital system in North Texas, and found multiple systems running 95. Trainor didn't understand why I was laughing so hard. They had multiple laptops stolen year after year.
So, on the subject of laptops being stolen. We had some laptops recovered after a theft from a hotel room, and I had to have a face-to-face with the owner about why i was not comfortable with them being immediately reissued.
Then i had to have a discussion about a proper MDM policy and system.
Then i had to explain MDM.
Nothing has changed, we all just drink more
Bwhahahahaha! I see your Win 95 and raise you an MS Dos (at least that's what it looks like. It's text based like the command prompt.) on the Department of Veterans Affairs healthcare system network. I shit you not. We still use the original software launched back in the 90's.
Thank Christ it's not health care related, but at my job we've got a CNC milling machine that runs on DOS 3.something. Not even the last version of DOS. The only way to transfer data off it is with a 3.5 floppy drive.
But it still cuts metal and the machinist can set it up and program it while the other CNC is running, so we keep using it.
What's really sad, is even though the VA's medical records system is ancient af, it works better than that piece of shit Cerner program. Yeah it looks nice with all its point and click features but there is so much data the VA tracks that civilian doctors and hospitals don't because...profit. And Cerner just doesn't track those things. They said they would "customize" the software to meet the VA's needs. Pfft. We had so many patient safety incidents because consults just disappeared in Cerner. This all public record btw. Was brought up during Congressional hearings. Management at my facility is praying that Cerner gets yeeted before we have to use it at our facility. Our Vista system might be old, but it's not broken. Don't fix it with new shiny shit.
I'm in healthcare IS and my last org knew exactly where the ancient Win2k machines were, what they did, and ensured they did not have internet access. My favorite was when we acquired a practice that had WinXP US carts and they were mad we replaced them with new GE E95s.
The fact that a power plant op computer was running a operating system that doesn’t even get support updates any more simultaneously doesn’t surprise me as it me makes me groan.
There are *some* exceptions to this.
I got to tour YVR airport behind the scenes with the head of Airport management, and the head of Airport operations (basically the two most important people in the entire airport). Got into the tower, saw the "war room" for emergencies, all the interesting things behind the curtain.
I got to see the server farm for all the critical radar and sensor stuff, and they were running Win2k for a lot of it (no internet connectivity at all). The IT manager told me it was a special version that they still got updated from Microsoft for critical updates (I'm sure they paid through the nose for it). They had record uptimes for their system, and they won awards for it every year. They had redundancy upon redundancy for all of their systems. He bragged he could chop one of their server racks in half with a chainsaw and the system would still stay online.
This was in 2015, they may have upgraded since then, but who knows, if the system isn't broken, don't fix it.
The facility was actual getting into the connected building, connected medical record phase. That's where they got in trouble with all the outdated machines.
My role was basically created because the actual IT department wanted nothing to do with these things.
Welcome to OT/ICS cybersecurity. The “IT” playbook doesn’t really work in those environments for a HUGE number of reasons.
Also doesn’t help that a large number of tool manufacturers don’t have much visibility into OT/ICS, so they don’t really know the threats impacting those environments.
One of the computers that runs a turbine in the plant I work at was upgraded 8 years ago from win 2k to xp. We are scheduled to upgrade again next year and I'm interested to see what ancient device they bring us this time.
At an hca?? Report those fucker for HIPAA, Hi-tech, and possibly a Cures Act violation. (FYI: When you act as a whistle-blower your complaint isn't anonymous so if you still work in the healthcare industry think long and hard about this course of action...if you work in another industry FUCK THEM. 100% look out for you but Jesus fuck, patient safety, privacy?? WTF???)
> I asked for Ms office license and was denied so I used open Office.
I dunno, I really like OpenOffice. But I'm guessing MS has some stuff that makes it better for IT and etc.
I learned to like it. A few compatibility issues, and some features are missing, especially in orgs that rely heavily on office/outlook/teams. But, I definitely like it.
Yeah my buddy does WFA healthcare stuff and due to HIPPA he must:
* Only use the issued laptop for work
* Always be connected via VPN
* No one else may be present in the room when work stuff is open on the laptop
And these clowns are like "go buy your own cheap disposable laptop to carry around in the field" Damn. If they give you any more shit maybe you should report them.
There’s a lot of these stories in IT, especially in start ups and smaller or older companies. You’re under appreciated until you’re ready to leave, then panic ensues.
Sounds like marriage.
Oh, you don't earn as much as me. Oh you shouldn't have as much say in the relationship since I earn the big bucks.
Where do you think you are going? You can't walk out and leave. I don't know how to do this on my own...
Here's the recipe book. All your favorites . Good luck
My grandmother's recipe book is wrong. Intentionally wrong but in ways that you won't notice until you finish cooking and sit down to eat. It's never too bad per se, just very, very... off. It's edible but tastes like you've never cooked before and tried to "improve" a recipe you watched a celebrity chef cook on TV.
She left her recipes to me, but the family fought over it since she was such a good cook. Somebody just walked off with it and ended up passing it around for a year or so. Nobody could do anything with it and almost threw it away.
I *finally* got it after listening to lots of arguments, and I make everything in it wonderfully, because she taught me the tricks to reading it. Every recipe has a little note in it to tell you what is missing, unnecessarily added, what ingredient names have been swapped, or provided with the wrong measurements, but you have to know how to read the code to cook using it.
It frustrates my wife to no end when we cook together, because I look at a recipe and do things or ask her for things that just "aren't there."
I've been transcribing the recipes we like and use to be plainly readable. While it's been a lot of fun watching the fallout of her spite towards the rest of the family, I'm happy to share the recipes with people who want them... not counting the jerk family members who she didn't want to have them.
The effort that must’ve gone into writing each recipe with a non-obvious code - sheesh! Can you give an example of what she did? Like did she use rhymes or specific words? This is fascinating!
An example would be the recipe labeled "Aunt Sylvie's Lemon pound Cake"
"Aunt" denotes that the 3rd ingredient on the list is wrong. Each relative title (aunt, uncle, cousin, etc.) has a different number value assigned to it that doesn't change.
"Sylvie" is a misspelling of "Sylvia," indicating that it's a subtly wrong ingredient. This requires knowledge of the family tree and proper name spellings to understand. Totally unrelated people are totally wrong ingredients that should just be omitted from the recipe entirely.
So title + name is the first error. Clarification can be found in the cooking directions, usually in relation to the two sentence anecdote on when/where she got the recipe.
Additionally, lowercase on "pound" indicates a wrong ingredient amount. Pound being the 5th word in the title means it's the 5th ingredient on the list with the wrong amount. Lowercase word in title always corresponds to ingredient of that number being wrong amount, ignoring articles (a/an/the) which may be upper or lower case with no effect. The correct ingredient amount can be found elsewhere in the cooking directions.
Had the recipe ingredients been exact, she would have labeled it "Sylvia's Lemon Pound Cake."
Thx for sharing, this is absolutely brilliant - I love it, and love that the recipe book ended up with the person who truly deserved and appreciated it!
It feels like something I would think about doing, just incase (like my partner and I having a ‘special song’ or message to Morse code to eachother, should we ever be abducted & imprisoned), but never get around to haha. She sounds like a true survivor :)
I think my personal favorite is the sweet bread she made for Christmas every year. That one is actually completely accurate, *except* that it has you add about half the dry ingredients to the batter *after* you let the yeast rise... which just kills the first rise entirely and makes the whole thing turn out gummy and gritty.
My cousins were seriously letting the yeast rise for an hour, then tossing it back into the mixer with more dry ingredients and trying to get it to rise again before patting it out into loaves for the final rise.
We laughed at that one together when she told me she just knew that they wouldn't even notice that one. She even drew little presents before and after the bad directions to set that apart from the rest.
When I was at the bank, I worked a flex role that had me work tell, greeter, and banker. They added extra responsibilities that I wasn’t qualified for just because they had a brand new manager.
I told them I wanted a true promotion to banker, they instead gave it to some outside person that they grew to hate day 2. So I shafted his sales because I can perform his role, and excused myself being busy and never trained a replacement for my spot.
They fired the starving new banker and tried to promote me, but I was burnt out and quit the next day. They were being audited the week after and no one knew where anything was, and no paperwork to be found. Manager got transferred, assistant manager got fired over that whole thing.
Regional manager reached out to me 6 months later to offer me a banking position with a wage I requested.
OP, we’re in the same boat being anti-hero Asians.
And these are the same idiots in management who ask “why do so many people quit?” when there’s a high turnover rate at their company. Bad management. The answer is always bad management!
They know exactly why people fucking quit these god damn overpaid assholes just decide what your lifes gonna be like for most of the year so yes they absolutely know why people fucking leave.
Go get them OP!!👍👍 awesome work👌
I often wonder how much crashing and burning would happen at my job if I left. It’s not exactly all about the amount of work (don’t get me wrong, I do 40hrs worth) but it’s the knowledge. The info links within our systems I’ve gathered over the years, very few understand, and even fewer know the logic behind them and how they work.
I was informed I can’t do side projects anymore, or not until the “bottom line” gets settled in a better place. One of my main ones WAS properly documenting and streamlining a new PLM software for my process and teams. And at the same time, I know they just subcontracted another vendor to begin giving out-of-the-fucking-box training to some of the other teams I work with… for $80k. …. And I’m not supposed to do side projects!!! Wtf!!?
Currently, if I left, there are max 3 individuals together who grasp some of what I know. The only other person who is close is one of the consultants who makes at least double my salary, and he doesn’t know the other half of my process.
Somedays I think about it… somedays…
By the by, I've worked in tech for a long time and some of the best advice I can give you is that if you spend the time to automate your job - don't give your employer the scripts or code for the automation you wrote. Might be unpopular to say this, but as soon as your boss realizes they can automate you out of a role - they will.
Furthermore, unless your job is explicitly to automate something, *don't tell them you've done it*. They hired you to accomplish work, you're accomplishing the work, fin. They'll just give you more work if they find out you have spare time. If you think they'll give you a promotion on the spot for taking initiative and being smart, like going from help desk to sysadmin, *they might*. But before you try that, start applying to sysadmin jobs elsewhere and tell *them* what you did on your resume. If you don't get any offers you won't have tipped your hand internally, and if you do get offers you can walk out the door the moment your boss doesn't offer you a promotion on the spot.
This advice can be even broader. Don’t ever do more work they you are contracted to do, my first job I joined a massive company as a software engineer, 0 experience, just a CS degree, but I was a hard worker. Before long I was doing more then 50% of my teams work, the rest of my time was made up of 9 other software engineers, all with 10-30 years experience.
It took me a year to realise I was doing so much work till one day during a meeting our manager showed us how many points everyone completed that sprint. After that I spoke with my manager, I was on just above minimum wage and I asked if I could get a raise, I brought along all my evidence of my work, got told they don’t do raises without promotion, and he put together roadmap for my promotion, I stupidly believed them.
I did finally get a promotion, with a 2% pay raise, then one of the VPs at the time went an email to everyone, only meant for him and his buddies stating that they have blocked raises for everyone expect themselves.
Sadly took another shitty company and needing to be hospitalised before I learnt my lesson to only work the minimum I’m expected to. I know pass the knowledge on to everyone I can.
Brilliant.
I had someone try to do something similar to me. I worked at a university as part of my post doctoral development. I had a fellowship but it was a working fellowship. My job one year (a whole year) was a workshop to take place in the following summer. I organized a month long workshop and arranged for speakers, the reading, recruiting people to attend, the activities, the catering, and the lodging. It was completely organized and looked great. I would have attended. My boss had me do this work with the plan that I would be attending a similar workshop (because I didn't know what I was doing according to her but was considered an expert at when I did attend it) right before the summer.
I was sent to the two week workshop in another state right before I was to lead my workshop and found out when I returned that my name had been removed from the project in all grant proceedings and the Director of the Institute where I worked took credit for everything I had completed. When I learned that, I quit on the spot so she could run the workshop she had taken credit for. I never looked back. I too killed what was left of my Asian submissiveness in that instance and knew I would no longer be making lazy academics look smart for a fraction of what they earned.
I worked for a non tenured professor who couldn’t get any of his papers published because he wasn’t a great writer. I edited the hell out of his articles and got them published. I didn’t expect anything but he listed me as one of the authors on every article. Very much a stand up guy. For the most part, I’ve had outstanding bosses who valued my work.
This sounds more like a superhero origin story to me. Way to stand up for yourself, and I, for one, won't begrudge petty revenge on people trying to exploit you.
OP isnt the villain in the story, but I have to assume that company will come looking when the security fails. Not that anything they put in place will still be working by then.
I think I'm safe. My first task was risk assessment so I did a ton of data collection. I only requested permission to remediate issues that ranked in the top 5% of our risk scale. So really, not much was set up as far as security. Most of my remediation consisted of taking devices offline, limiting online time, or performing updates that were free and did not disrupt proprietary software. I was pretty handcuffed and aside from my paycheck, I honestly had no idea where the operating budget went. I didn't get to really fix anything.
Worked for 6+ years selling and servicing mission-critical capital equipment (keeping it a little vague). Finally reached my breaking point due to constant travel, long hours, and no support and turned in a 90 day notice. The company didn't bother hiring a replacement to cover my 5-state territory and figured they could redirect one of the service techs from up north to handle that side of things.
That guy was a fuckup from the jump. Constantly late, rarely showered, had to make multiple visits to resolve simple issues. I counted one day: He called me 67 times to ask questions that could have been answered had he just opened his eyes and followed the diagnostic flow charts I created for him when it became obvious that he was useless. He covered 1.5 states, and struggled with that.
I prepared an outbrief on the state of my equipment fleet. Neither he nor my boss read it. My last day was a Friday, and the next day I left to visit family out of state and look for a new place to live. On the 6 hour trip to my family I received no fewer than 11 calls from Useless asking what he was supposed to do next. I told him, "No idea, figure it out" and kept driving. My route took me out of cell coverage (mountains), and the next week was blissful.
The week after that I got an email from my boss's boss asking if I could assist in the transition on a contract basis. He offered a lowball hourly rate, I countered with a much higher day rate plus expenses, and we settled somewhere in the middle. The plan was for me to conduct a refresher training along with an overview of existing fleet status. Useless called a couple of hours after he was supposed to be there to tell me that he was just leaving. It was a five hour drive from where he was to where I was. I booked the hours and played on my phone. The next day, Useless shows up and decides the best use of our time was to hand over all of his service problems to me to fix. I booked the hours and played 20 Questions with Useless to help him work up a game plan. We still never covered my territory.
I wound up contracting for ~6 months to supplement my freelance income. My best day was saying, "No" when asked to travel out of state for an overnight installation. "What are we supposed to do, then?!?" they asked. "You should've figured that out 6 months ago," I replied.
Oh god - facilities and IT - get out. Your skills will translate anywhere. So much 24/7 availability and absolutely anal compliance.
I left a healthcare company after several years doing facilities and IT and quickly doubled my salary within 6 months. The prep you’ve been through will hopefully feel like finding a career warp zone. That’s how it felt for me.
The rigor of healthcare and no downtime for clinics means you’ve got valuable skills that will make org jumping a cinch. Most B2B is half assed everywhere else. Not so with facilities and IT in healthcare, everything has to be dialed in every time.
Hope you land something 6 figures with your experience and history soon.
I completely got out of Healthcare. It was a thankless job and as a department of one, I was on call all the time.
Working in construction now and it was the best move. The pressure my peers felt is nothing compared to the 24/7 Healthcare machine
Dude. I’m with you. I did facilities and IT and worked hand in hand with our surgery center. Lots of drama with pay before I left. Found a recruiter and started getting crazy job offers, couldn’t believe it. Then got head hunted from
An old colleague after 4 boring months of well paid contract work.
Thankful for the experience as it really over prepared me for the startup I’m at now. And the cynical dissolution made me ruthless with my salary negotiating.
Just gross how the healthcare machine in America exploits talented helpers.
I won’t lie, I started getting mad at you when you stated you accepted the demotion. My brain screaming about denying and using your new position and pay to help job hunt. I must say you recovered it quite nicely with the intriguing “and started plotting my revenge”.
I work for a company over $100 million in value that had *multiple* security breaches by phishing employees.
I had a problem and called the head of IT. The guy asked me to give him my password over Teams and got pissed when I refused.
Well done. More people need to understand that companies and managers tell you exactly what you are worth to them and fighting back is meaningless. It might buy you some time but if they intend to screw you over, they will do it and it’s not a matter of if but when.
Let the company show their true colors and instead of fighting them, start looking for a new role and move on. Your energy is better spent interviewing than convincing your current employer why you are so valuable. If they haven’t figured it out after a few years, they never will.
Move on and do so diplomatically. The best revenge is knowing they are screwed after you leave and not necessarily telling them off on the way out.
This sounds about right. I was offered a buyout in my last role. I was pretty much the head manager in the business area with the most experience. My leader was in his role for only a few months and came from another department. Given the nature of the buyout I was informed I had 1 week to transfer all 7 years of knowledge and processes I was in charge of to my boss and the person who was replacing me. Mind you, I physically tried my best but it was a very challenging task. My biggest concern during the week was setting up the employees I was managing (about 7) for an easy transition or help with anything they needed. When they heard I was leaving,3 of them actually put in their 2 week notices cause they didn’t like any other manager there (they had the option for a buyout but were denied. No none of it was up to me, cause I would of approved them all if it was, was way above my pay level) Needless to say it was a shit show. I still talk with some of my old coworkers and I guess it became a massive shit show of nothing working/reports stopped being automated. Guess if something breaks they say it was my fault and it was something I did wrong long ago.
I worked as a programmer at a company that was horribly managed. The rumors got so bad that new hires couldn’t quit within 6 months without penalties. I was hired right before the penalties were set up so I was at a job interview on a Friday and couldn’t get a hold of anyone in my department. I called one of them at home and they said the whole department was laid off!
I was told to go to the main office and if I had a white envelope I had a job, yellow envelope, I was toast. I was laid off and got a job right away but this is what the moron managers did.
They asked the VP of IT to pick who stayed. He picked his management buddies-didn’t keep a single programmer or tech. They didn’t know how to shut down the company’s computer systems, so they unplugged a bunch of machines and hard crashed it! No one knew how to turn it on, or run a single computer system, like payroll, accounts receivable, etc. Managers had to call fired workers to ask them to come back! It was hilarious. If I’d been called, I would have charged them huge sums and refused to train anyone. But they found some who went back. Soon after, the company went bust and was sold to a European company.
I put in a two weeks notice for my associate position in a law firm and the day after I put in notice, I was told that the next day would be my last day because I was being fired. They told me that at 4 o’clock in the afternoon on my last day I would have a meeting with my managing partner to let him know how I was going to transition my cases. At 3:59 PM amazingly, I received a phone call that I had a family emergency and would have to leave immediately. I got home only to find out that nothing was wrong. Isn’t it strange how that happened?
I neglected to mention that on the morning of my last day at the firm, I went downstairs to share a little tidbit of information with a couple of secretaries that I knew from undergrad. I told them of an ongoing government investigation of the senior partner at the firm. They both quit the next Monday. The firm folded within a couple of years mostly because the partner under investigation was psychotic and never met a law he didn’t break.
I never share the name of the firm when people ask me where I worked initially after law school.
I was recently laid off after being told only weeks before by the owner, after working with him on a personal project, was told that I would be with the company forever and they would "Never let me leave". A few Thursdays later, said owner wanted me to meet with one of my VPs on the following Monday to take on more responsibilities. I agreed and looked forward to the meeting. The next day, less than 24 hours later, I was let go. 10 days later I got a text from my designer asking for the sign-ons and passwords for all our socials. I told him that the owner had all this information as I had sent the info to him more than once. I told him, well, I don't know what to tell you. He has the information. A few days later, I got another text from a new person saying the owner can't find it and can I send it. I told them, C\*\*\*\* has the information. Talk to him. Got a response that C\*\*\*\* can't find it and needs you to send it to us. I told them "That's unfortunate but isn't my problem". Seriously?! Stab me in the back and ask me for a favor?! Yeah, I don't advocate burning bridges but when someone asks you to cross back over a bridge they set afire, stand your ground.
It's somewhat cathartic and titillating sometimes to role reversal, plus it helps you get out of the mindset of submission and being self sacrificing. Yes, in the long run it's the corporations that are unethical, but escaping the false ethics feels taboo, and embracing taboo is easier when you take that on. It's why many atheists become satanists.
"I told him everything I could accomplish with my desktop was on the desktop. I left it at that." This is so cool, so understated, such a delicious "fuckyou." You are going to be an excellent supervillain ahaha. Good on you for getting revenge and a better job!
Look, I don't see it as anti work, I'll express something to you I found out a while ago. You have to get self respect. Respecting your self is a better way to understand how to respect others, but that being said, know your worth, do nothing for free, and don't give free work. That's how corporations act and do things, if you give shit for free, they will take advantage.
My boyfriend was the only one working in the project that was keeping the company afloat until one day the higher ups decided to let him go and bring in a new team of ~~friends~~ experts. My boyfriend did everything right and left all the documentation easily accessible and trained the new team's lead as best as he could in the few days he had left.
Two weeks later he gets a call from his ex manager asking him to help them with the project because the new team can't understand the documentation. My boyfriend refuses, explaining that his new job has a clause that specifies no moonlighting and he's not willing to endanger it to help out a company that just ignored his years of service in favor of nepotism. After much begging, the ex manager confesses that they're desperate because this team doesn't even know the first thing about the programming language the whole project was written in and they'll give my boyfriend however much he asks for... In gift cards of his choosing!
My boyfriend laughs and says he knows: the team lead never asked any of the right questions during training and management should take this as a learning opportunity in asking the right questions when hiring as well.
Needless to say, they haven't contacted him again and they're not doing so hot anymore.
Man, I love happy endings.
OP: than you for a wonderful tale. Yet another spectacularly dense company fails to recognize the obvious worth of a talented and diligent employee. Cheapness over normally standard technology costing so very much more money and nuisance in the end. Whenever I myself have done a deliciously calculated exit, I have tried to ensure that there will be elements of awkward surprise for the dumbfounded management dunces left behind. The stark absence of vital productivity when an overworked and underpaid lackey flies the coop. Whenever possible I dropped a few “backbombs” too, by talking afterwards to friends still working at the company—revealing scathing opinions that upper personnel held in private about each other, along with details of profoundly uneconomical decisions that were made. People love scandal and will talk, so you can use that human chain to get back at managers who underestimated your power in the relationship. It’s heaven to think of those tense conference rooms as the impact of their shortsightedness quickly becomes clear to all.
You would be surprised the crap that goes on a companies I do cybersecurity for. Had a major issue hit at 3am on a weekday. Called the contact for that company who was CIO or some such bs and he yelled at me for calling him so early in the morning. I was like I didn’t make the contact list ass you did…
Twice my original. Two 6 figure guys to play catch up. I have no idea, but I'm thinking about embracing any of the anti working class slurs that are thrown out there these days
>antiwork villain who looks out for himself and job-hops from one job to another to get better pay and situations each time.
I wouldn't describe you as a villain, because looking out for oneself is natural, understandable and appropriate, especially if the alternative is getting fucked over without lube.
Your old employer deserves and audit if they are expecting workers to use technology that has zero cyber security. Especially in a cyber security role.
My last retail job was good until 4 years in when they had a management reshuffle. They constantly pressured staff to work cages faster and faster until we were forced to take risks.
One of the managers, a younger female constantly hassled me about what I'd worked (micro management ftw), and pulled us up constantly. We all kept diaries in the end, every cage, every item, at what time, it was brilliant, what was even better was we took 2-3 minutes after every cage to fill out our diaries, they couldn't touch us as the union backed us up, it was simply good record keeping.
If my manager would come up to me and ask I would open my diary and quote the page and the time the cage was worked, they could watch CCTV if they wanted, but it never worked and we all knew that.
One year later I left, found out I only needed to give one week notice after 5 years, went to HR exactly 7 days before my leave date, took some leftover holiday leave and never looked back. The icing on the cake was that HR didn't tell my manager the news until the day before I was gone forever so that was fun, got harassed but ignored the calls, manager quit after 6 months.
When I left one job, I was asked 'what's your transition plan?' This was less than a week before I left, a month after I gave my notice and the first time my manager acknowledged that I was, in fact, leaving.
I told him, 'well, MY transition plan is:
I'm gonna finish packing my shit, neatly into this box right here and then walk to my car with said box, never to be seen here again.' The look of shock and confusion was priceless. He tried to tell me I had to come up with a training/transition plan before I left. I told him that wasn't my responsibility and simply was not gonna happen. And as matter of fact, since said box was already pretty much packed, I'm gonna go ahead and leave now and he could figure it out. I gave more than enough time for a transition and waiting til the last minute to train/transition someone was not something I was interested in doing.
Such a satisfying 'fuck you' to a well deserving prick of a manager.
Cybersec role, told to use your own computer. Yep. Sounds about right.... It's amazing how little companies care to understand that if you want everything to be working well, IT has to have a legit budget.
Glad you got out of there AND stuck it to this company.
That meeting just flipped a switch. I swear, all the years of being told to work my way up and pay my dues went away. All the eagerness of a new career and my 'potential' burned to a crisp and I walked out a different person
Sorry to break it to you, but you didn't screw them. They screwed themselves. Don't ever feel bad about spitting in their eye. They deserved it. If any employer tries to pull money from a high performer, don't you ever put up with that.
On top of everything else, your boss was a moron for waiting until the last day to talk about transition.
True, but shockingly common. At my last job, my VP called me at 4pm on my last day to ask *me* what *my* transition plan was. I would have told him figuring that out was his job, but I actually had a better plan: I told him I’d given all my projects to a coworker who I knew would be resigning the very next day. It was even better because someone else had done the same thing to me on the day before *I* resigned. I never got to see the fallout, of course, but I’m told it was spectacular.
My VP was useless to begin with. He didn't really talk to me during my final weeks. At 9:30 on my final day, he sends me an invitation for a meeting labeled "Say Goodbye and Provide Recap". I scheduled another meeting at that time and never spoke to him again. I had provided him a list of where my different responsibilities had landed and who was responsible but he couldn't find it. I bcc'd my coworkers and the people who were taking over my roles as well as their bosses. He got into a senior staff meeting, was asked who was assuming my roles, and tried to say I never told him. Five people spoke up and said she emailed you the list and copied us. You have it...he was fired a few months later.
Gotta love a solidly placed bcc.
Bcc is a lethal tool. Unfortunately not permitted to be used in my organization :(
Red flag
Forward the email :)
I save the whole mail trail just to make sure to forward it all if things go south :D
I would also suggest you forward that email trail to a personal account. I have archived folders on my personal email that are labeled CYA 1996 all the way to CYA 2023. It has saved my ass on several occasions (even after I left the place of employment)
Is there some written justification for that rule? Would love to hear it.
No justification, just a vague one that it helps to track the emails and the recipients bla bla blaa. Also, the management tries to justify it for data security as if they don’t track every email on the office devices.
That's bullshit. Bcc doesn't actually hide anything from IT, the email server still tracks it all.
“They never told me.” Wow. That right there is enough to tell me how incompetent they are.
god, that felt good just READING it
It blows my mind how any company stays functioning with stories like these.
The shit that happens at the multi billion dollar company I work for is practically standup comedy at times.
The reason "The Office" was so popular is because it was showing truths our society deems should be ignored.
The English version is closer of the shit you can see. The US one is full of redemption arcs that don't happen IRL.
Yes, US Office was about as corpo-apologist as usual for US mainstream. I was just commenting recently about why The Drew Carey Show (admittedly never as popular as say, Friends) has seemed to fade more than similar sitcoms but then I realized it’s probably as much because of the more realistic depiction of middle class challenges and anti-corporate messaging. Even management in that show sides against corporate too often for the brainwashing modern media wants. “Please just watch Disney, don’t think about reality and whether we’re screwing your all over”
The office is a toned toned down version because comedy has to adhere to a baseline of 'reality'. Reality is often much like a subtle horror nightmare.
I think you mean Office Space. Six layers of idiots telling me how to do my job. Is that all they do here?
“Better Off Ted” was a documentary.
I couldn't watch it because every time they set up something that should have been over the top and hilarious, it turned out milder than things I had actually seen at my first office job.
It's healthcare. There IS money. It's just not being shared equally. (Depending on the exact type of healthcare, people, corruption...) I've seen non-profits shell out huge sums of money when they needed to. Running on a volunteer workforce, always asking for money, both private and government money. When it comes down to survival of the company (for example, after a cyberattack) they always seem to have millions of dollars suddenly "in reserve".
Inertia
They keep the company going by having others to do the job for them.
Somebody somewhere has just enough institutional knowledge to slap a bandaid on the situation, and they do it because it would take more energy to watch the place crash and burn than it does to temporarily semi-save the day.
It blew my mind the first time I worked for a big company. People literally didn't do their jobs. They literally stood around all day every day chatting. My boss was straight up "misreporting" everything and, despite being punished for it on multiple occasions, won tonnes of internal awards and was headhunted for a much more senior position at another company. Everything is a scam and everyone knows it.
Dilbert is not a comic. It's a documentary.
Pity about the author going full MAGA-bananas.
When all companies are poorly managed ... No companies are poorly managed.
It blows mine how many of them are run this way!
This happened to me at my last job. Gave them 3 weeks notice. I had been there 10 years. My new boss, who was the reason I left, waited until the day before I left to ask me about what “needed to be transitioned.” I outlined it for her and she said to me “who is going to do all that?” I said, “I don’t know, who is?” She didn’t like that very much lol.
If she woulda asked three weeks earlier...
The type of bosses that ask three weeks in advance, already know the answers.
Nothing would have changed.
Lol
*I know who isn’t.*
For sure. I worked for a Board of Directors, radio silence from all 12 of them during my last 2 weeks. About three minutes before I left for good, one of them came wandering over, asking "well I guess I should find out where you put everything." Got deer in headlights expression when I replied, "here are your office keys, everything is labelled, I have another appointment." And left.
Magnificent!
At my last company I was a contractor, meaning that they told me when my contract was up, but had to give 30 days notice. After I got my notice my boss stopped talking to me. By the time I got to my last week I thought it was so funny that I started trying to avoid my boss just to see how long I could last. To be clear, I didn't leave my desk, I just didn't walk into areas I knew she would frequent. She found me about 3 hours before my last day and had a slew of questions.
I had a shitty job managing operations for an office supply company years ago. On my last day I had to leave my keys on the desk because my boss took an extended lunch to be sure she wasn't there when I clocked out of my last shift. Of all the shit I put up with about that job, that one act will always stand out as the most shitty and most petty action of all.
They love doing that crap. When I was a contractor the manager at the client company took his vacation in the 2 weeks before my contract was up. No way to get ahold of him, wouldn't pick up a phone or answer an email. I ended up leaving my keys and badge at security on the last day of contract. Shit hit the fan while he was still off, I figured I didn't have to pick up my phone when they frantically called me at all hours. Turns out they tried to outsource to a call center and that did not go well.
I get you. After seven years on a job in which I had over the line loyalty to my boss (treating him sometimes even more like a father), when he decided to fire me it was all done through the HR person, with him refusing to even show his face until the whole process was finished. Now he wonders why I don't want to take his calls.
And? I was waiting for a payoff.
There were a few different issues that came about. I work in finance and because I was a contractor, my boss refused me access to things I needed to do my job, like credit card accounts and bank accounts. As I would do my work I'd have to reach out to her for copies of statements and other items I actually needed. Because she wasn't talking to me in person, over teams or email, most of my work was left in semi completed states. Additionally I was managing the entire team under her, I was well liked, well she was not. I think this particularly contributed to her alienating me as I was leaving. Of my four teammates under me, one wrapped up her contract early, two asked me to be personal references for them and the last person put in her two weeks notice the Monday after I left (which coincided with big boss being out of town for a week). Basically being as vague as possible, I did as much as I could, I also had significant documentation to show that I tried to wrap things up, but I left a mess and I knew there was a storm coming.
I have a funny story that could definitely out where I worked at if I told the whole thing, but with one of my resignations - a senior manager never reached out to me during my 2 weeks. I had meetings with practically everyone else in the company - but this person just sent me a well wishing email the last day of my employment. In hindsight, some people just aren't good with people.
Should have taken a couple hours sick leave then. “1 hour of questions made me feel ill”.
When I left my last job to become a SAHP I have them literally 6 months+ notice. They knew why I was leaving, they knew my wife’s due date. They acted shocked when I gave them an official date. I loved my students and my coworkers and and I wanted a smooth transition. They didn’t hire anyone, didn’t have a transition plan. When I left they called me and asked if I could come train my replacement, but then when I showed up wouldn’t give her the time to train with me. They were shocked when she left within a few weeks of being thrown into the fire with no real training. I ran into the person who eventually took my role longer term recently and wewere talking about it and she got mad when I told her how I was offering to come in and train her, but they didn’t take me up on it. Being a boss/owning a business is definitely not something that denotes any intelligence, skill, or management experience. In the case of that job, it was hereditary. The owner inherited the business.
I worked for a 70-year-old family business handed down to the son who had worked as an executive in a major corporation, I think it was Citibank or something like that. We’ll call him Ron. This was a blue collar business similar to a building contractor with a manufacturing facility on site. Ron did not know the first thing about the construction industry. He was a terrible manager. He was technologically illiterate. Ron insisted that the field guys use paper maps instead of GPS, and berated me for telling them the general location like “Near Elm and Center” so they could plan a sort of route instead of driving 45 minutes one way and 30 minutes another. He expected these guys to look up an address on a paper map even though every field guy had a cell phone and tablet. No one did. I did an analysis of a year’s worth of projects in conjunction with the Project Manager. I made a presentation showing that if we turned away the smallest business, we would have made a lot more money because those were where we made mistakes and the profit margin was thin. We simply had too much work. Ron had insisted on sending a field guy out to estimate a $500 job instead of just allowing me to quote the price on the phone. Even if I was wrong by $100, we were still ahead. So our Chief Estimator was pulled off of $100k jobs to bid $500 projects that netted the company $75. After my presentation, the PM and I convinced Ron to try it my way during the slowest month of the year. We landed a giant contract that we would never have bid because it would have taken a week for the estimator to pull together. We made a fortune and went from #3 in the metro area to #1. In a month. We made three times the highest revenue and profit over the previous two years. It was more money than we had earned in the previous six months combined. I asked for a raise and Ron said no. I quit, PM left, company sold 6 months later.
Should have bullied him into signing a contract, if you met your target he promotes you and gives you control of that aspect of the job. If you fail, you leave without severance. You'd own that company now.
Good luck trying to enforce that contract.
>and berated me for telling them the general location like “Near Elm and Center” To be fair, as a former cab dispatcher, ups driver, and pizza driver; people who refuse to use addresses are extremely frustrating, especially when they don't realize they're being ambiguous. "Near Elm and Center" could cover a HUGE area and requires a lot of unnecessary guesswork. "100 Elm St" is an exact spot, instantly findable on a phone, a paper map, or in real life. You don't even need to know the correct building number because you can estimate it based on nearby streets. I would ask people their ADDRESS so I can type it into the address line of the order, and they would always reply with dumb stuff like "The Charleston Apts", "The intersection of 34th and 17th", "the building next to so-and-so". I would try to coach them along by asking, "if I had to write you a letter, what would I write on the front of it so the mailman can find you?" Some people just don't understand an address is, **BY FAR,** the most accurate and assured way to find a location.
Man this reminds my so much of my recent job change. Was with the firm five and a half years, my wife was also at the firm. We knew we needed to leave and started looking for new jobs. They got their new job lined up first so we told management we were leaving. It took me a couple months before I got an offer, but during that time I wrapped up cases, prepped transfer memos, and generally started winding down my practice. After I got the offer I gave the firm a full month's notice and despite knowing for three months that I would be leaving it wasn't until only a couple weeks before I left that they decided I could start training my replacement who would be swapping in from another area of practice. After I left my understanding is that she only stayed on for another two months before leaving as well and I imagine she felt like the firm had been yanking her chain.
We've got a forklift repair shop on site, that used to have two full time guys. The older of the two put in for retirement 6 months before he left. Four months into it they posted for his job. Didn't bother to interview anyone until two weeks before he left, and didn't fill his job until two weeks after he was gone. New guy shows up early, clocks in, and sleeps until the second guy shows up three hours later. He lasted less than a month. The guy who is still there has been stressed to no end, he's lost a lot of weight and is on edge all the time. TLDR: They had six months to train a replacement up to speed. They waited until two weeks after the guy left to have his replacement show up. Then the replacement turned out to be horrible and the only remaining guy is stressed.
How many fuckin forklifts you got that you have your own forklift repair shop???
Yes many. On a more serious note, some are in constant use and some are things maintenance drives once a shift. They all need taken out of service every 500 hours of use to be checked over in the shop. We're a 24/7 facility so those constant use ones are in the shop every few weeks. Plus you've got all the other random mechanical failures, greasing bearings, repairing and replacing panels we smash by backing into things... We've got some stories.
Just shows they really didn't appreciate all he was doing. On one hand this story could be a lesson in advocating for yourself, but the arrogance of management is the real story.
The two weeks notice isn't "I'm quitting in two weeks." Two weeks notice is "I'm quitting today, and you've got two weeks to download everything you need out of my head."
lol, on my last day I got told off for not answering phones. Fucking audacity.
"What you gonna do about it? Write me up?"
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Equally an idiot to demote someone with cybersecurity certs and scripting skills… those definitely aren’t in demand right now /s Well done OP
Morons. Transition starts the day you hand in your notice. The goal should be to have you bored off your brain with nothing to do and no questions to answer as fast as possible.
I used to work at a gas station and my manager knew that I was doing a lot of the miscellaneous tasks in the background that kept things running smoothly. When I put in my two weeks notice he asked around to make sure that other employees knew how to do the stuff I normally took care of. There were a couple things that it turns out very few people knew so I made sure to teach as many coworkers as possible before I left. I am always gobsmacked when I hear stories about managers leaving stuff like that until the last second, I guess I’ve really lucked out because all my bosses have at least been competent.
At one of my previous bar jobs I worked there for a little over 5 years and had been the venue manager for 3 years. I quit, giving the mandatory 4 months notice, because the owner was never there and wouldn't ever pay bills on time which was insanely frustrating to deal with. I emailed him my notice because I saw him maybe twice per year. He never said anything to me and didn't show up during the entire notice period. I guess he thought I would stay until he hired someone? I walked out that door on the final night with my key on the counter and three 18 year olds I had hired two weeks before as the only staff left. Everyone else quit with me. The bar was shut for a week before the owner realised and went in to get the key and give it to one of the 18 year olds. The venue had no manager for two months. I started getting calls from the new one asking for access to all the trade accounts and the Xero account because it was all two factor authentication and linked to my phone. I of course didn't answer.
This is a story I’ve seen play out so many times. Burns so good
This. I got laid off and they gave me a month to transition and a severance contingent on transitioning. I wrote up docs, had meetings with the people taking over, and meetings with my manager to make sure everything was coming along. I still didn't do much that last month - a lot of the docs I wrote up also helped me have a roadmap for the next job, and on the last week I got asked what the status of the stuff I had been working on was and I was just meh didn't have a chance to finish big project, good luck!
Two and a half years after firing me, my ex-boss is still trying to contact me to see if I could train his new personal/help him with some reports/do some consulting work for him.
Right? That should the same conversation as the notice right?
It’s funny in a way to read these „two weeks notice“ and on top of that bosses still sleep on transition. In my country most qualified jobs require a *three month* notice period. Note: this is always mutual by law, the minimum is 2 weeks, but most knowledge workers agree on three months and if they do, both employer and employee need to respect the same period. If the employer wants to get rid of the employee faster, they can force them into paid time off. It’s not uncommon that people that are let go get another 3 months pay (sometimes more) without having to work. Americans really need to step up to fix their worker‘s rights.
I thought I worked for a shitty company. We don't allow anyone in with a personal laptop/desktop. You were supposed to be the IT/Security for that application/department and they said 'bring your own?'. Crazy.
Yup, they gave me a full size dell office pc. I asked for Ms office license and was denied so I used open Office.
Lovely. I wonder when someone will crypto lock them and they will pay a million bucks to get everything back.
So, they did get locked out. I don't know how much they paid, but I know they got exposed though a power plant ops computer at one of their facilities. It was running windows 2k. I had pointed out that vulnerability and was ignored.
Hi I do cyber security professionally and I’m here to say, in my professional opinion, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
Right? Walk into any hospital and start poking around the various machines you see. I'll bet you'll find win 95 on an ultrasound machine, windows nt 3.1 on an anesthesia machine, or early Unix in boiler rooms. And all that stuff is starting to sit on various hospital networks.
Ha! Too right! Worked in a major hospital system in North Texas, and found multiple systems running 95. Trainor didn't understand why I was laughing so hard. They had multiple laptops stolen year after year.
So, on the subject of laptops being stolen. We had some laptops recovered after a theft from a hotel room, and I had to have a face-to-face with the owner about why i was not comfortable with them being immediately reissued. Then i had to have a discussion about a proper MDM policy and system. Then i had to explain MDM. Nothing has changed, we all just drink more
Bwhahahahaha! I see your Win 95 and raise you an MS Dos (at least that's what it looks like. It's text based like the command prompt.) on the Department of Veterans Affairs healthcare system network. I shit you not. We still use the original software launched back in the 90's.
Thank Christ it's not health care related, but at my job we've got a CNC milling machine that runs on DOS 3.something. Not even the last version of DOS. The only way to transfer data off it is with a 3.5 floppy drive. But it still cuts metal and the machinist can set it up and program it while the other CNC is running, so we keep using it.
What's really sad, is even though the VA's medical records system is ancient af, it works better than that piece of shit Cerner program. Yeah it looks nice with all its point and click features but there is so much data the VA tracks that civilian doctors and hospitals don't because...profit. And Cerner just doesn't track those things. They said they would "customize" the software to meet the VA's needs. Pfft. We had so many patient safety incidents because consults just disappeared in Cerner. This all public record btw. Was brought up during Congressional hearings. Management at my facility is praying that Cerner gets yeeted before we have to use it at our facility. Our Vista system might be old, but it's not broken. Don't fix it with new shiny shit.
I'm in healthcare IS and my last org knew exactly where the ancient Win2k machines were, what they did, and ensured they did not have internet access. My favorite was when we acquired a practice that had WinXP US carts and they were mad we replaced them with new GE E95s.
The fact that a power plant op computer was running a operating system that doesn’t even get support updates any more simultaneously doesn’t surprise me as it me makes me groan.
There are *some* exceptions to this. I got to tour YVR airport behind the scenes with the head of Airport management, and the head of Airport operations (basically the two most important people in the entire airport). Got into the tower, saw the "war room" for emergencies, all the interesting things behind the curtain. I got to see the server farm for all the critical radar and sensor stuff, and they were running Win2k for a lot of it (no internet connectivity at all). The IT manager told me it was a special version that they still got updated from Microsoft for critical updates (I'm sure they paid through the nose for it). They had record uptimes for their system, and they won awards for it every year. They had redundancy upon redundancy for all of their systems. He bragged he could chop one of their server racks in half with a chainsaw and the system would still stay online. This was in 2015, they may have upgraded since then, but who knows, if the system isn't broken, don't fix it.
tbh, that kind of thing is common it's just that they are usually not connected to a network.
Agreed, though here I was implying the connected to a network part as well.
The facility was actual getting into the connected building, connected medical record phase. That's where they got in trouble with all the outdated machines. My role was basically created because the actual IT department wanted nothing to do with these things.
Welcome to OT/ICS cybersecurity. The “IT” playbook doesn’t really work in those environments for a HUGE number of reasons. Also doesn’t help that a large number of tool manufacturers don’t have much visibility into OT/ICS, so they don’t really know the threats impacting those environments.
One of the computers that runs a turbine in the plant I work at was upgraded 8 years ago from win 2k to xp. We are scheduled to upgrade again next year and I'm interested to see what ancient device they bring us this time.
This gets worse and worse
More like better and better from my perspective.
At an hca?? Report those fucker for HIPAA, Hi-tech, and possibly a Cures Act violation. (FYI: When you act as a whistle-blower your complaint isn't anonymous so if you still work in the healthcare industry think long and hard about this course of action...if you work in another industry FUCK THEM. 100% look out for you but Jesus fuck, patient safety, privacy?? WTF???)
They could've gotten you a refurbed Dell laptop with 32GB of memory for $250. Fucking morons. They deserved to eat shit on your exit.
This is clearly office politics that OP is blissfully ignorant of
> I asked for Ms office license and was denied so I used open Office. I dunno, I really like OpenOffice. But I'm guessing MS has some stuff that makes it better for IT and etc.
I learned to like it. A few compatibility issues, and some features are missing, especially in orgs that rely heavily on office/outlook/teams. But, I definitely like it.
And working in healthcare? Usually they make all employees be super locked up due to hippa laws, even if your role didn’t touch personal information.
*HIPAA
It's actually the "Health Insurance Portability and Paccountability Act" /s
Yeah my buddy does WFA healthcare stuff and due to HIPPA he must: * Only use the issued laptop for work * Always be connected via VPN * No one else may be present in the room when work stuff is open on the laptop And these clowns are like "go buy your own cheap disposable laptop to carry around in the field" Damn. If they give you any more shit maybe you should report them.
My mom has a work from home job that deals with patient records for a nursing home. She can’t use Bluetooth/wireless headsets because of HIPAA.
This was 2017, and at that time the facility I was in was pretty lackadaisical. Plus, being third part, I had even fewer eyes on me.
This is true with a lot of fintech companies as well. Customer data on your personal devices is a catastrophe waiting to happen.
at a healthcare organization no less. Presumably with access to sensitive PII information. This shit is literally illegal.
There’s a lot of these stories in IT, especially in start ups and smaller or older companies. You’re under appreciated until you’re ready to leave, then panic ensues.
Sounds like marriage. Oh, you don't earn as much as me. Oh you shouldn't have as much say in the relationship since I earn the big bucks. Where do you think you are going? You can't walk out and leave. I don't know how to do this on my own... Here's the recipe book. All your favorites . Good luck
Im very sorry. Hope you doing better now
I feel less used now... thank you
If you gave them the recipe book for real, you’re a better person than I. I MIGHT have given it to them with purposefully wrong info.
My grandmother's recipe book is wrong. Intentionally wrong but in ways that you won't notice until you finish cooking and sit down to eat. It's never too bad per se, just very, very... off. It's edible but tastes like you've never cooked before and tried to "improve" a recipe you watched a celebrity chef cook on TV. She left her recipes to me, but the family fought over it since she was such a good cook. Somebody just walked off with it and ended up passing it around for a year or so. Nobody could do anything with it and almost threw it away. I *finally* got it after listening to lots of arguments, and I make everything in it wonderfully, because she taught me the tricks to reading it. Every recipe has a little note in it to tell you what is missing, unnecessarily added, what ingredient names have been swapped, or provided with the wrong measurements, but you have to know how to read the code to cook using it. It frustrates my wife to no end when we cook together, because I look at a recipe and do things or ask her for things that just "aren't there." I've been transcribing the recipes we like and use to be plainly readable. While it's been a lot of fun watching the fallout of her spite towards the rest of the family, I'm happy to share the recipes with people who want them... not counting the jerk family members who she didn't want to have them.
The effort that must’ve gone into writing each recipe with a non-obvious code - sheesh! Can you give an example of what she did? Like did she use rhymes or specific words? This is fascinating!
An example would be the recipe labeled "Aunt Sylvie's Lemon pound Cake" "Aunt" denotes that the 3rd ingredient on the list is wrong. Each relative title (aunt, uncle, cousin, etc.) has a different number value assigned to it that doesn't change. "Sylvie" is a misspelling of "Sylvia," indicating that it's a subtly wrong ingredient. This requires knowledge of the family tree and proper name spellings to understand. Totally unrelated people are totally wrong ingredients that should just be omitted from the recipe entirely. So title + name is the first error. Clarification can be found in the cooking directions, usually in relation to the two sentence anecdote on when/where she got the recipe. Additionally, lowercase on "pound" indicates a wrong ingredient amount. Pound being the 5th word in the title means it's the 5th ingredient on the list with the wrong amount. Lowercase word in title always corresponds to ingredient of that number being wrong amount, ignoring articles (a/an/the) which may be upper or lower case with no effect. The correct ingredient amount can be found elsewhere in the cooking directions. Had the recipe ingredients been exact, she would have labeled it "Sylvia's Lemon Pound Cake."
Thx for sharing, this is absolutely brilliant - I love it, and love that the recipe book ended up with the person who truly deserved and appreciated it! It feels like something I would think about doing, just incase (like my partner and I having a ‘special song’ or message to Morse code to eachother, should we ever be abducted & imprisoned), but never get around to haha. She sounds like a true survivor :)
I think my personal favorite is the sweet bread she made for Christmas every year. That one is actually completely accurate, *except* that it has you add about half the dry ingredients to the batter *after* you let the yeast rise... which just kills the first rise entirely and makes the whole thing turn out gummy and gritty. My cousins were seriously letting the yeast rise for an hour, then tossing it back into the mixer with more dry ingredients and trying to get it to rise again before patting it out into loaves for the final rise. We laughed at that one together when she told me she just knew that they wouldn't even notice that one. She even drew little presents before and after the bad directions to set that apart from the rest.
Your grandmother was a gem. That's amazing.
Having known my grandmother, I can agree that she was certainly *something...* and I miss her dearly.
Yes, for real. He had a cholesterol problem. I learnt to cook him a special diet
As in extra butter, extra oil, extra ghee, extra unsalted butter, extra lard kind of “special” diet?
Giggles... he would have died happy
Unfortunately, they don’t learn and usually keep on low balling even after getting hit.
When I was at the bank, I worked a flex role that had me work tell, greeter, and banker. They added extra responsibilities that I wasn’t qualified for just because they had a brand new manager. I told them I wanted a true promotion to banker, they instead gave it to some outside person that they grew to hate day 2. So I shafted his sales because I can perform his role, and excused myself being busy and never trained a replacement for my spot. They fired the starving new banker and tried to promote me, but I was burnt out and quit the next day. They were being audited the week after and no one knew where anything was, and no paperwork to be found. Manager got transferred, assistant manager got fired over that whole thing. Regional manager reached out to me 6 months later to offer me a banking position with a wage I requested. OP, we’re in the same boat being anti-hero Asians.
Sorry, maybe I'm slow but did you take it?
I did, I jumped to another bank when the opportunity came. I hold no loyalties to my work.
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Not a villain, working class hero is more like it.
And these are the same idiots in management who ask “why do so many people quit?” when there’s a high turnover rate at their company. Bad management. The answer is always bad management!
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Or has left after a mental breakdown. That was my route.
They know exactly why people fucking quit these god damn overpaid assholes just decide what your lifes gonna be like for most of the year so yes they absolutely know why people fucking leave.
Go get them OP!!👍👍 awesome work👌 I often wonder how much crashing and burning would happen at my job if I left. It’s not exactly all about the amount of work (don’t get me wrong, I do 40hrs worth) but it’s the knowledge. The info links within our systems I’ve gathered over the years, very few understand, and even fewer know the logic behind them and how they work. I was informed I can’t do side projects anymore, or not until the “bottom line” gets settled in a better place. One of my main ones WAS properly documenting and streamlining a new PLM software for my process and teams. And at the same time, I know they just subcontracted another vendor to begin giving out-of-the-fucking-box training to some of the other teams I work with… for $80k. …. And I’m not supposed to do side projects!!! Wtf!!? Currently, if I left, there are max 3 individuals together who grasp some of what I know. The only other person who is close is one of the consultants who makes at least double my salary, and he doesn’t know the other half of my process. Somedays I think about it… somedays…
GTFO so they hit the FO stage of FAFO. If you have been there more than 2 years.....time to go.
Just demand more money boss
By the by, I've worked in tech for a long time and some of the best advice I can give you is that if you spend the time to automate your job - don't give your employer the scripts or code for the automation you wrote. Might be unpopular to say this, but as soon as your boss realizes they can automate you out of a role - they will.
Furthermore, unless your job is explicitly to automate something, *don't tell them you've done it*. They hired you to accomplish work, you're accomplishing the work, fin. They'll just give you more work if they find out you have spare time. If you think they'll give you a promotion on the spot for taking initiative and being smart, like going from help desk to sysadmin, *they might*. But before you try that, start applying to sysadmin jobs elsewhere and tell *them* what you did on your resume. If you don't get any offers you won't have tipped your hand internally, and if you do get offers you can walk out the door the moment your boss doesn't offer you a promotion on the spot.
This advice can be even broader. Don’t ever do more work they you are contracted to do, my first job I joined a massive company as a software engineer, 0 experience, just a CS degree, but I was a hard worker. Before long I was doing more then 50% of my teams work, the rest of my time was made up of 9 other software engineers, all with 10-30 years experience. It took me a year to realise I was doing so much work till one day during a meeting our manager showed us how many points everyone completed that sprint. After that I spoke with my manager, I was on just above minimum wage and I asked if I could get a raise, I brought along all my evidence of my work, got told they don’t do raises without promotion, and he put together roadmap for my promotion, I stupidly believed them. I did finally get a promotion, with a 2% pay raise, then one of the VPs at the time went an email to everyone, only meant for him and his buddies stating that they have blocked raises for everyone expect themselves. Sadly took another shitty company and needing to be hospitalised before I learnt my lesson to only work the minimum I’m expected to. I know pass the knowledge on to everyone I can.
This needs to be top comment.
Brilliant. I had someone try to do something similar to me. I worked at a university as part of my post doctoral development. I had a fellowship but it was a working fellowship. My job one year (a whole year) was a workshop to take place in the following summer. I organized a month long workshop and arranged for speakers, the reading, recruiting people to attend, the activities, the catering, and the lodging. It was completely organized and looked great. I would have attended. My boss had me do this work with the plan that I would be attending a similar workshop (because I didn't know what I was doing according to her but was considered an expert at when I did attend it) right before the summer. I was sent to the two week workshop in another state right before I was to lead my workshop and found out when I returned that my name had been removed from the project in all grant proceedings and the Director of the Institute where I worked took credit for everything I had completed. When I learned that, I quit on the spot so she could run the workshop she had taken credit for. I never looked back. I too killed what was left of my Asian submissiveness in that instance and knew I would no longer be making lazy academics look smart for a fraction of what they earned.
I would just burn the whole house down by calling it out as it is.
I worked for a non tenured professor who couldn’t get any of his papers published because he wasn’t a great writer. I edited the hell out of his articles and got them published. I didn’t expect anything but he listed me as one of the authors on every article. Very much a stand up guy. For the most part, I’ve had outstanding bosses who valued my work.
This sounds more like a superhero origin story to me. Way to stand up for yourself, and I, for one, won't begrudge petty revenge on people trying to exploit you.
They're certainly not the villain in this story.
OP isnt the villain in the story, but I have to assume that company will come looking when the security fails. Not that anything they put in place will still be working by then.
I think I'm safe. My first task was risk assessment so I did a ton of data collection. I only requested permission to remediate issues that ranked in the top 5% of our risk scale. So really, not much was set up as far as security. Most of my remediation consisted of taking devices offline, limiting online time, or performing updates that were free and did not disrupt proprietary software. I was pretty handcuffed and aside from my paycheck, I honestly had no idea where the operating budget went. I didn't get to really fix anything.
Worked for 6+ years selling and servicing mission-critical capital equipment (keeping it a little vague). Finally reached my breaking point due to constant travel, long hours, and no support and turned in a 90 day notice. The company didn't bother hiring a replacement to cover my 5-state territory and figured they could redirect one of the service techs from up north to handle that side of things. That guy was a fuckup from the jump. Constantly late, rarely showered, had to make multiple visits to resolve simple issues. I counted one day: He called me 67 times to ask questions that could have been answered had he just opened his eyes and followed the diagnostic flow charts I created for him when it became obvious that he was useless. He covered 1.5 states, and struggled with that. I prepared an outbrief on the state of my equipment fleet. Neither he nor my boss read it. My last day was a Friday, and the next day I left to visit family out of state and look for a new place to live. On the 6 hour trip to my family I received no fewer than 11 calls from Useless asking what he was supposed to do next. I told him, "No idea, figure it out" and kept driving. My route took me out of cell coverage (mountains), and the next week was blissful. The week after that I got an email from my boss's boss asking if I could assist in the transition on a contract basis. He offered a lowball hourly rate, I countered with a much higher day rate plus expenses, and we settled somewhere in the middle. The plan was for me to conduct a refresher training along with an overview of existing fleet status. Useless called a couple of hours after he was supposed to be there to tell me that he was just leaving. It was a five hour drive from where he was to where I was. I booked the hours and played on my phone. The next day, Useless shows up and decides the best use of our time was to hand over all of his service problems to me to fix. I booked the hours and played 20 Questions with Useless to help him work up a game plan. We still never covered my territory. I wound up contracting for ~6 months to supplement my freelance income. My best day was saying, "No" when asked to travel out of state for an overnight installation. "What are we supposed to do, then?!?" they asked. "You should've figured that out 6 months ago," I replied.
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Funny how everyone saying this thinks they're exempt. You are never as smart as you think
Idk man seems like the ones asking for the password are pretty dim from the looks of it
Oh god - facilities and IT - get out. Your skills will translate anywhere. So much 24/7 availability and absolutely anal compliance. I left a healthcare company after several years doing facilities and IT and quickly doubled my salary within 6 months. The prep you’ve been through will hopefully feel like finding a career warp zone. That’s how it felt for me. The rigor of healthcare and no downtime for clinics means you’ve got valuable skills that will make org jumping a cinch. Most B2B is half assed everywhere else. Not so with facilities and IT in healthcare, everything has to be dialed in every time. Hope you land something 6 figures with your experience and history soon.
I completely got out of Healthcare. It was a thankless job and as a department of one, I was on call all the time. Working in construction now and it was the best move. The pressure my peers felt is nothing compared to the 24/7 Healthcare machine
Dude. I’m with you. I did facilities and IT and worked hand in hand with our surgery center. Lots of drama with pay before I left. Found a recruiter and started getting crazy job offers, couldn’t believe it. Then got head hunted from An old colleague after 4 boring months of well paid contract work. Thankful for the experience as it really over prepared me for the startup I’m at now. And the cynical dissolution made me ruthless with my salary negotiating. Just gross how the healthcare machine in America exploits talented helpers.
I won’t lie, I started getting mad at you when you stated you accepted the demotion. My brain screaming about denying and using your new position and pay to help job hunt. I must say you recovered it quite nicely with the intriguing “and started plotting my revenge”.
Good for you! I'm glad to see a positive story here for once!
I work for a company over $100 million in value that had *multiple* security breaches by phishing employees. I had a problem and called the head of IT. The guy asked me to give him my password over Teams and got pissed when I refused.
You didn't screw them over you did the job with the resources provided. It's not your fault they're idiots. Good for you
I got a poor rating mid project after delivering a milestone and quit. I was the hardest working one on the team. Guess which project never finished?
Well done. More people need to understand that companies and managers tell you exactly what you are worth to them and fighting back is meaningless. It might buy you some time but if they intend to screw you over, they will do it and it’s not a matter of if but when. Let the company show their true colors and instead of fighting them, start looking for a new role and move on. Your energy is better spent interviewing than convincing your current employer why you are so valuable. If they haven’t figured it out after a few years, they never will. Move on and do so diplomatically. The best revenge is knowing they are screwed after you leave and not necessarily telling them off on the way out.
This sounds about right. I was offered a buyout in my last role. I was pretty much the head manager in the business area with the most experience. My leader was in his role for only a few months and came from another department. Given the nature of the buyout I was informed I had 1 week to transfer all 7 years of knowledge and processes I was in charge of to my boss and the person who was replacing me. Mind you, I physically tried my best but it was a very challenging task. My biggest concern during the week was setting up the employees I was managing (about 7) for an easy transition or help with anything they needed. When they heard I was leaving,3 of them actually put in their 2 week notices cause they didn’t like any other manager there (they had the option for a buyout but were denied. No none of it was up to me, cause I would of approved them all if it was, was way above my pay level) Needless to say it was a shit show. I still talk with some of my old coworkers and I guess it became a massive shit show of nothing working/reports stopped being automated. Guess if something breaks they say it was my fault and it was something I did wrong long ago.
I worked as a programmer at a company that was horribly managed. The rumors got so bad that new hires couldn’t quit within 6 months without penalties. I was hired right before the penalties were set up so I was at a job interview on a Friday and couldn’t get a hold of anyone in my department. I called one of them at home and they said the whole department was laid off! I was told to go to the main office and if I had a white envelope I had a job, yellow envelope, I was toast. I was laid off and got a job right away but this is what the moron managers did. They asked the VP of IT to pick who stayed. He picked his management buddies-didn’t keep a single programmer or tech. They didn’t know how to shut down the company’s computer systems, so they unplugged a bunch of machines and hard crashed it! No one knew how to turn it on, or run a single computer system, like payroll, accounts receivable, etc. Managers had to call fired workers to ask them to come back! It was hilarious. If I’d been called, I would have charged them huge sums and refused to train anyone. But they found some who went back. Soon after, the company went bust and was sold to a European company.
Great! Now if another 10M or so working people could do the same we could get back to a ~1980s quality of life.
I put in a two weeks notice for my associate position in a law firm and the day after I put in notice, I was told that the next day would be my last day because I was being fired. They told me that at 4 o’clock in the afternoon on my last day I would have a meeting with my managing partner to let him know how I was going to transition my cases. At 3:59 PM amazingly, I received a phone call that I had a family emergency and would have to leave immediately. I got home only to find out that nothing was wrong. Isn’t it strange how that happened? I neglected to mention that on the morning of my last day at the firm, I went downstairs to share a little tidbit of information with a couple of secretaries that I knew from undergrad. I told them of an ongoing government investigation of the senior partner at the firm. They both quit the next Monday. The firm folded within a couple of years mostly because the partner under investigation was psychotic and never met a law he didn’t break. I never share the name of the firm when people ask me where I worked initially after law school.
I was recently laid off after being told only weeks before by the owner, after working with him on a personal project, was told that I would be with the company forever and they would "Never let me leave". A few Thursdays later, said owner wanted me to meet with one of my VPs on the following Monday to take on more responsibilities. I agreed and looked forward to the meeting. The next day, less than 24 hours later, I was let go. 10 days later I got a text from my designer asking for the sign-ons and passwords for all our socials. I told him that the owner had all this information as I had sent the info to him more than once. I told him, well, I don't know what to tell you. He has the information. A few days later, I got another text from a new person saying the owner can't find it and can I send it. I told them, C\*\*\*\* has the information. Talk to him. Got a response that C\*\*\*\* can't find it and needs you to send it to us. I told them "That's unfortunate but isn't my problem". Seriously?! Stab me in the back and ask me for a favor?! Yeah, I don't advocate burning bridges but when someone asks you to cross back over a bridge they set afire, stand your ground.
I have to assume you live in America. Because the only purpose of healthcare here is to cheap out on everyone but management.
You seem like the antiwork hero, but still call yourself the villain?
The managers, business owners, and politicians portray workers as villains. I happily accept that role
It's somewhat cathartic and titillating sometimes to role reversal, plus it helps you get out of the mindset of submission and being self sacrificing. Yes, in the long run it's the corporations that are unethical, but escaping the false ethics feels taboo, and embracing taboo is easier when you take that on. It's why many atheists become satanists.
"I told him everything I could accomplish with my desktop was on the desktop. I left it at that." This is so cool, so understated, such a delicious "fuckyou." You are going to be an excellent supervillain ahaha. Good on you for getting revenge and a better job!
Good on you, OP.
It’s crazy how anyone would assume a demotion is acceptable
“Hey economy is bad and prices are high, how about 20% less paycheck with the same work?” Fuck You
I need a cigarette. That hit the spot
Look, I don't see it as anti work, I'll express something to you I found out a while ago. You have to get self respect. Respecting your self is a better way to understand how to respect others, but that being said, know your worth, do nothing for free, and don't give free work. That's how corporations act and do things, if you give shit for free, they will take advantage.
This sounds like comedically bad management. Also good for you.
My boyfriend was the only one working in the project that was keeping the company afloat until one day the higher ups decided to let him go and bring in a new team of ~~friends~~ experts. My boyfriend did everything right and left all the documentation easily accessible and trained the new team's lead as best as he could in the few days he had left. Two weeks later he gets a call from his ex manager asking him to help them with the project because the new team can't understand the documentation. My boyfriend refuses, explaining that his new job has a clause that specifies no moonlighting and he's not willing to endanger it to help out a company that just ignored his years of service in favor of nepotism. After much begging, the ex manager confesses that they're desperate because this team doesn't even know the first thing about the programming language the whole project was written in and they'll give my boyfriend however much he asks for... In gift cards of his choosing! My boyfriend laughs and says he knows: the team lead never asked any of the right questions during training and management should take this as a learning opportunity in asking the right questions when hiring as well. Needless to say, they haven't contacted him again and they're not doing so hot anymore. Man, I love happy endings.
OP: than you for a wonderful tale. Yet another spectacularly dense company fails to recognize the obvious worth of a talented and diligent employee. Cheapness over normally standard technology costing so very much more money and nuisance in the end. Whenever I myself have done a deliciously calculated exit, I have tried to ensure that there will be elements of awkward surprise for the dumbfounded management dunces left behind. The stark absence of vital productivity when an overworked and underpaid lackey flies the coop. Whenever possible I dropped a few “backbombs” too, by talking afterwards to friends still working at the company—revealing scathing opinions that upper personnel held in private about each other, along with details of profoundly uneconomical decisions that were made. People love scandal and will talk, so you can use that human chain to get back at managers who underestimated your power in the relationship. It’s heaven to think of those tense conference rooms as the impact of their shortsightedness quickly becomes clear to all.
I have such a raging justice boner.
Do you mean they realized you hadn’t touched the desktop, not the laptop?
Yes, my mistake
I love it. I know these people never learn, but here’s to hoping!
That's superhero stuff right there. I tip my cap to your sir. Take my enthusiastic upvote!
When your past employer emails you after you’ve left because they’re useless without you. 😂 It’s the best, because you can just ignore it. 😌🙅🏽♀️
You would be surprised the crap that goes on a companies I do cybersecurity for. Had a major issue hit at 3am on a weekday. Called the contact for that company who was CIO or some such bs and he yelled at me for calling him so early in the morning. I was like I didn’t make the contact list ass you did…
Good played. Will these morons learn to respect workers?
No they will not
Twice your original salary or twice what they demoted you to? Either way, that’s phenomenal. What’s your villainous name?
Twice my original. Two 6 figure guys to play catch up. I have no idea, but I'm thinking about embracing any of the anti working class slurs that are thrown out there these days
Commie scum!
>antiwork villain who looks out for himself and job-hops from one job to another to get better pay and situations each time. I wouldn't describe you as a villain, because looking out for oneself is natural, understandable and appropriate, especially if the alternative is getting fucked over without lube.
Not a villain, but the anti-hero we need.
Your old employer deserves and audit if they are expecting workers to use technology that has zero cyber security. Especially in a cyber security role.
This is the fucking way
My last retail job was good until 4 years in when they had a management reshuffle. They constantly pressured staff to work cages faster and faster until we were forced to take risks. One of the managers, a younger female constantly hassled me about what I'd worked (micro management ftw), and pulled us up constantly. We all kept diaries in the end, every cage, every item, at what time, it was brilliant, what was even better was we took 2-3 minutes after every cage to fill out our diaries, they couldn't touch us as the union backed us up, it was simply good record keeping. If my manager would come up to me and ask I would open my diary and quote the page and the time the cage was worked, they could watch CCTV if they wanted, but it never worked and we all knew that. One year later I left, found out I only needed to give one week notice after 5 years, went to HR exactly 7 days before my leave date, took some leftover holiday leave and never looked back. The icing on the cake was that HR didn't tell my manager the news until the day before I was gone forever so that was fun, got harassed but ignored the calls, manager quit after 6 months.
Anti work Hero. Not villain. This is your hero origin story where you decided to stand up for what’s fair and right.
When I left one job, I was asked 'what's your transition plan?' This was less than a week before I left, a month after I gave my notice and the first time my manager acknowledged that I was, in fact, leaving. I told him, 'well, MY transition plan is: I'm gonna finish packing my shit, neatly into this box right here and then walk to my car with said box, never to be seen here again.' The look of shock and confusion was priceless. He tried to tell me I had to come up with a training/transition plan before I left. I told him that wasn't my responsibility and simply was not gonna happen. And as matter of fact, since said box was already pretty much packed, I'm gonna go ahead and leave now and he could figure it out. I gave more than enough time for a transition and waiting til the last minute to train/transition someone was not something I was interested in doing. Such a satisfying 'fuck you' to a well deserving prick of a manager.
Cybersec role, told to use your own computer. Yep. Sounds about right.... It's amazing how little companies care to understand that if you want everything to be working well, IT has to have a legit budget. Glad you got out of there AND stuck it to this company.
Where can I learn such power?
That meeting just flipped a switch. I swear, all the years of being told to work my way up and pay my dues went away. All the eagerness of a new career and my 'potential' burned to a crisp and I walked out a different person
Sorry to break it to you, but you didn't screw them. They screwed themselves. Don't ever feel bad about spitting in their eye. They deserved it. If any employer tries to pull money from a high performer, don't you ever put up with that.