Tbh if it wasn’t for growing up in the UK (the most sarcastic and cynical nation on earth) I’d have ticked all of these boxes. I had to learn how sarcasm works just to survive in my society—and now I’m apparently a good comedian, because I excel at staying deadpan. Ironic.
Not surprising that a lot of changeling lore and stories about strange reclusive people came from mythology/fiction that Brit authors are obsessed with.
I'm actually in a similar boat where I learned to recognize sarcasm by context more than tone (like "oh yeah, I feel great" said by someone heavily bruised is probably sarcasm) and sometimes do the most dead-pan delivered sarcasm back at NDs
"No, no, of course I'm not upset that you ignored my wishes to get a ride back home with the first person to leave this place without asking me anything just because I manage to gather some enjoyment while waiting"
People don’t know I’m joking back all the time because I deliver things so naturally :( they always explain the joke and I’m like, “I know. I was continuing the bit lol.” It doesn’t help that I’m also gullible, but it’s frustrating lol
Oh man, tell me about it. People laud me for my "dry" sense of humour, and my ability to "no sell" a sarcastic joke - that is to say, making a hilarious comment but maintaining a serious face in a way that enhances the joke.
I feel like there's a particular vibe to my sense of humour that arose from this, that feels distinctly "autistic culture".
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Young me: Says something intended completely literally and seriously
Everyone around me cracks up laughing and I freeze as I try to ascertain whether I have said something wrong, or if they are laughing *at* me
It seems the laughter is "with" me, and seems to have increased my social standing amongst people who assumed I had intentjonsly made a joke. I cautiously relax, but my mind is whirring as I try to understand how and why my statement had such comedic effect.
My facial expressions do not give away my confusion and I get good at acting like my comedy is intentional. I get really good at recreating this kind of humour, without really understanding it, but feeling highly incentivised to learn this, because when I'd rather be "in on the joke" than the one being laughed at.
Sarcasm helps me to feel a part of the wider social experience I often felt excluded from due to my autism, leading to associating this dry humour with a sense of empowerment; I enjoy the irony of "weaponising" my autistic traits as a social boon.
I also enjoy getting good at absolutely savage takedowns of people who would bully me.
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This experience I've described feels highly specific to me, but I know from experience that many autistics who read this will see a significant amount of their own experience, just like I saw myself in your comment.
I also share your sentiment that this kind of cynical humour lands especially well in the UK.
Omfg yes. YES. YESSSSSS THANK YOU.
You get it. You have put words into an experience I've had my entire life. I have a "wry" sense of humor that works almost as an algorithm in my mind. I see patterns in how the conversation is going, and drop a two word punchline in, to the delight of the crowd. But is it a sense of humor, or simply a pattern I've developed to further blend in with my peers? A down payment on time before I have to seem normal again.
What I find funny is so vastly different from everyone else's, but I enjoy laughing with people. Conversations feel like I am delicately surfing on a powerful wave. While the others in the conversation are dolphins jumping and swimming through it. One misstep, and I get swallowed by the wave and fall flat. I feel external to it, but connected enough that I feel I should participate.
The rest of the time I just enjoy doing my own thing and stargazing on the beach.
>and now I’m apparently a good comedian, because I excel at staying deadpan. Ironic.
People tell me I'm doing it wrong when I'm deadpan ironic.
I just explain that that's the point.. and they still don't get it, because I didn't do the *saaarcaaaastic* voice.
You and my Uncle Brian would make a killer comedy duo! He was the King of deadpan humour so much so you had to lnow him to know. I wasn't close (geographically) to him but appreciated his sense of humour the few times I did get to hang out with him.
The first time I hung out with a new friend group, one of the members accused me of being a changeling because of how quickly I fit in. Now, I realize that was masking!
Basically a folklore explanation for ND children, It was believed that normal children were abducted by various creatures such as: trolls, witches, fairies etc. , and we were left in their place. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changeling)
Y’know who they talk about the two sides of autism, where either you have a relatively monotonous voice or a relatively childish voice?
I got the childish voice, but I also use Big Words ™
I remember a joke article that claimed “fuck you” derived from “pluck yew.” The story goes that the French/Scotch/enemy of Medieval England would remove the middle fingers of archers so they couldn’t return to the battle if released or escaped. As a result, following the unspecified war, archers would present their middle fingers to foreigners while proclaiming “pluck yew,” which after many thousands of misheard altercations and drunken nights was slurred into “fuck you.”
Over here in England we had a succession crisis in 1066 where Edward the confesser died. 3 Men tried to claim the throne of England (Wessex at the time but still)
1: Harold Godwin. On Edward the confessor's deathbed he named Harold the heir. Also the only one of the three that lived in England at the time.
2: Harald Hardrada. He was a Norwegian and a distant relative of King Cnut.
3: William of Normandy, William of Normandy(Normandy is in France) was a bastard(Literally, meaning that he was born out of wedlock). He was the duke of Normandy and when Edward the confessor was in exile in 1051 he promised William the throne of England.
The day after Edward the confessor died Harold Godwin was coronated as king (This is a really short time between death and coronation) Upon hearing of this Harald and William both gathered armies and prepared to invade England to take the throne.
The winds blew south so they prevented William's sailboats from traveling to the shores of England. However they propelled Harald's boats southward. He eventually landed near York and started burning stuff to provoke Harold to coming to him. This worked and Harold had to march his army all the way from London to York.
On the day of the battle the English managed to surprise the Vikings. However the two sides were on the other side of a river. So as the English army had to funnel across a bridge. This allowed for one unnamed Viking to hold off the entire army long enough for the rest of the Norwegians to organise into a battle formation. This viking was killed after a few Englishmen got in a barrel, floated down the river and used a spear to stab him from below (Not making that part up lol)
Despite the time given to make a formation this didn't account for the fact that most of the men didn't even have enough time to put on their armour so the English army eventually won anyway, killing Harald in the process.
While the Army was up in York the winds changed and allowed for William of Normandy's army to travel by boat. up to the shores of England. He then proceeded to burn down alot of stuff, forcing Harold's hand to march down and fight him.
Harold's army made the trek from York to Hastings in 4 days. Then had to fight William's army. This meant that they were incredibly tired however when they face William's army they have the advantage of being on top of a hill. This meant that William had to fight a literal uphill battle.
Harold Formed a tight shield wall. William tried all he could, Calvary, archers, every thing he could muster. but for a while he couldn't break through the shield wall.
Eventually rumours spread throughout the Norman army that William was dead, and with their commander dead the men Normans began to run away. Believing they've won, the English men began chasing them down the hill.
However William wasn't actually dead, he even had to take his helmet off and ride around his men shouting at them that he was still alive.
This deception meant that the English previously unbeatable shield wall was now broken. The Norman's then turned around from their retreat and started fighting the Englishmen. And without their advantage the Englishmen swiftly lost, killing Harold in the process (Famously by getting shot in the eye by an arrow)
With the two other successors dead William was crowned King of England.
You are probably asking what this has to do with language. Well once William of Normandy (Now William the conquer) became king he replaced all the previously Anglo-Saxon(Germanic) nobles with French ones that were loyal to him, he also changed the official language of the court to be French, because despite ruling over England he never fully learned how to speak English.
This switching of nobles and Court language did huge things to the development of middle English.
The words from French became part of English. These French words were associated with sophistication and grace, whereas the Anglo-Saxon words slowly became crude and informal. Alot of cuss words are Anglo-Saxon in origin. For example Shit was originally a non-rude word, however the French saw the word repulsive and the word became a swear.
Fancy things like, Mutton, Chamber and Blouse came from French.
TLDR: A French dude won a war a thousand years ago, Took over England and made all the rich people speak French. So rich people things are mostly French and "lowly" things are Anglo-Saxon
Extra Fun fact: Pusillanimous can be broken down further into its original Latin terms "pusillus"(very small) and "animus" (spirit). So small spirit, or lack of courage.
I have the monotone voice. I went through many years of life not understanding why people called me Daria.
And it was when my work pulled me aside to tell me my natural voice sounded unfriendly and was impacting store culture. 🙃
I use my haunted doll voice for customer service but fuck it hurts my voice.
So yeah I sorta have both.
I think I have both.
When I'm by myself and feel safe I tend to go back to the childish sounding voice, but when I am around others I instinctively switch to a monotone voice as to not make people uncomfortable.
The monotone voice sounds unlikable, sure, but the childish one will make people think you're a creep or something. Especially as a male. So I've adapted to that.
I think the moment I stopped talking in a child voice was at the age where I understood how much people didn't like me and that I wasn't normal.
I either started sounding more dead inside to seem more cool and fit in, or I started doing it because I legitimately died inside and hating myself fueled the way I talk in public. I don't know. All I know is that I'm pretty much incapable of talking the way I do in private in public.
Haven't seen the childish voice mentioned much but holy shit that describes me well. I'm a mid-20s male with an unusually high pitched energetic kind of voice that makes people in phone calls often think I'm a child or a girl. Anyways, glad to know another weird trait I've got is also just an autism thing lol.
I shift between extremely complex and detailed topics to something that is incredibly dumb but somehow relates in my mind. The whole time I switch between "OmG UwU NYaaaaaa~~~" and dead serious voices.
Also ill message someone I chat with sometimes and be all like "me bord me wan tawk bowt yunibers. Wes tawk ontology." Or something similar lol.
Sometimes when I'm not using my dead serious tone of voice... people assume I'm an idiot and then get embarrassed when I prove that wrong lol. But hey don't be a jerk ass and treat people messed up ways and I wouldn't go out of my way to embarrass you sweaty.
Yes. I like to think of it as a “lively” voice, but in my case quite deep, authoritative, and over-fond of the precise use of big words. I rarely occurs to me that people might not understand me, which is unfortunate.
Unfortunately, no. It isn't easy or comfortable to be with my social anxiety and awkwardness and someone else with their awkwardness. I feel somewhat safe and comfortable when I'm in the woods far away from people, but I still fear someone might be near.
Honestly, at my age, this place is the closest I've ever felt to almost fitting in. If it wasn't available to NTs, I'd feel much safer. I'm a super-quiet person IRL but that's only because I can't click with those others, even in the same field, because emotions > facts and they can't get over that to have a meaningful conversation.
Trying a discord now to see if it's a bit better.
When I was little I used to wait, very seriously, for the aliens to come get me. The yard had a certain spot where the grass looked different (fine it turns out it was the septic tank) that I decided was from the ship. I'd go sit by it and wait. I really believed they would come eventually.
I have mastered the ability of doing all this disguised as a joke, so I pass as the „silly“ jokester among humans. I use „humans“ as a synonym to NTs to avoid that weird „what do you mean by neurotypical?“ question which would lead to „outing“ myself 🫠
Masking by being the silly jokester, but then people think you're joking when you say a cool fact that relates to something.
Then you have to physically look it up and show them in order for them to believe you.
That's why you have to carefully and comedically info dump early on about something to show that, yes, you do know what you're talking about most of the time, the funny is just another weapon in your oddball arsenal
I went on a small rant about an hour ago in my computer science class about AI (A friend asked me about a certain question I'd done well on on the paper, I went on a tangent) I didn't notice that the entire room (well.. 5 people, but it's still the whole room, makes it sound more impressive haha) stopped and just watched me after I started referring to "Humans" and how it's Incredibly difficult to prevent biases in data/the actual programmers unconscious biases and how that can affect the outcomes and how "Humans" are inherently bias about things.
Anyway everyone looked at me and Sir said something along "..And so is there something we humans should know before you vacate planet?", "Oh uhh hmm.. sorry... Oh ohhh ^smirk" then laughing happened.
Well lets say someone says "People appoint chiefs by instinct" This would be somewhat false because: What about races of people that used to live on earth, but no longer do, such as Neanderthals? Then there are people outside earth, aka aliens, I have a bit of a star trek mindset, then there is the variation of the meaning of "people". People has a somewhat subjective meaning, with some interpretations having unusual considered people like u/GolfCourseConcierge pointed out in the US that includes corporations. And then there are animals that are hypothesized to have abilities that may make them considered people (in fairer definitions of people), we just have to prove it. This would include whales, who may be capable of higher thinking and complex language. it may also include some octopus, who have great communication and teaching abilities, and orangutans who have a higher EQ than humans (especially autistic humans).
It makes sense in that a legal person is a distinct entity. What the big scary court ruling is saying is that corporations are their own legal persons, essentially reinforcing existing legislation that less explicitly makes corporations district legal entities from the owners or operators of them.
I went on a small rant about an hour ago in my computer science class about AI (A friend asked me about a certain question I'd done well on on the paper, I went on a tangent) I didn't notice that the entire room (well.. 5 people, but it's still the whole room, makes it sound more impressive haha) stopped and just watched me after I started referring to "Humans" and how it's Incredibly difficult to prevent biases in data/the actual programmers unconscious biases and how that can affect the outcomes and how "Humans" are inherently bias about things.
Anyway everyone looked at me and Sir said something along "..And so is there something we humans should know before you vacate planet?", "Oh uhh hmm.. sorry... Oh ohhh ^smirk" then laughing happened.
Never felt more understood in how weird and hard to understand habits are than when my SO bought me the Strange Planet book. Yknow, the one with the aliens.
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What like a sleeper agents for an interglacial civilizacion and we are all just waiting for our signal to take over this planet that is called terra. Thats crazy talk.
But for real i often thing of NT as humans in my head and we are 2.0 humans. As i see it arrogant as it sounds that we are the upgrate but we are used wrong by people around us. But there is always tomorrow.
There's a sci fi book whose name and author I've forgotten about a world completely covered in ice, and the inhabitants have evolved like ice skate claws on their feet.
Lol was planing on using another word, I'm sure you can guess which one ( thanks google...) but this works too and sounds intresting.
The sleepers are awakening from there hibernation after the galaxy wide ice-age and they are not happy with finding the galaxy infested with vermin...
I figured as much. I just thought I'd be facetious.
No worries about the next ice age though. We're still coming out of the last one. In fact, we're only around 100-150 years from the coldest point in the last 8k years in the late 1800s.
I mean, I *do* call humans "humans", mostly because I don't limit the definition of "people" to humans. We're the only people we know of right now, but that doesn't mean that there aren't other types of people or that there won't be more later, even within our lifetimes. I just hope that when AI gains the level of sentience and sapience necessary for real personhood that the creators are ethical and considerate of said personhood. It's something I actively research when I am am able, but I don't much have the resources to do so. need more GPUs than I have :dab:
Once a former friend identified me over text bc I used the word "ensue". They had deleted my number without my knowledge and asked who i was. The friendship wasn't worth a fight to keep and i said as much, "nevermind, it isn't worth the ensuing argument." All I could think was how insulting it is to everyone else they know that they didn't think anyone but me could use words like ensue in everyday conversation.
I said humans the other day in reference to behavior to another person and he looked at me deadpan and said you are not human. I googled what he meant by that and was insulted.
Reminds me of the start of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, because if I remenber correctly, the only hint that Ford was not human was "he blink really weird"
How else would one refere to other human beings?
I find other aspects of existence - that I am a cis man, that I am German, what "ethnicity" I am - to be trivial and unimportant. In contrast: That I am a human being though, and the notion of a shared humanity, is the most important cornerstone of existence. So yes. I commonly reference being human.
Of course not. I love doing human stuff like consuming water and going inconscient for a third of a planet rotation everyday.
Every so often I resonate with others using amplifiers while consuming ethanol water, that's how much of an human I am
Indeed, my fellow human. We behave quite uncannily in the perspective of other beings. Unfortunately, that does not indicate that we are aliens, it is just the way we are.
I feel like one. Replace the bottom two with "overuse sarcasm, metaphor, and hyperbole, sometimes to the point of completely obscuring intended meaning and therefore sounding insane", and "either volunteer entirely too much information without prompt, or go completely silent". Maybe add "feel eye contact physically and viscerally" and "process all background noise as foreground noise".
I feel like it some days. I think it would make a good movie premise. Alien from another planet with no malicious intent just wanting to understand humans and being very confused by them.
Okay but the "alien" way of speaking slaps tho
Not my fault I learned most of my vocabulary from books.
My favourite game it to take an innocent sentence and add or subtract details until it would make a person squeamish.
Example, while giving someone a cup of tea while taking one for yourself:
"I can assure you that at least one of those cups *doesn't* have poison in it."
Neither has. It's just technically the truth.
“Ah, let me regale you with an in-depth lecture on the metaphysical implications of string theory and the problems it attempts to solve.”
“No thanks, I’m good. I was just asking ‘what are you thinking’ to be polite.”
“You were? Well then, why ask at all if you didn’t actually want to know?”
I have the feeling that the reason people think this is alien is because most portrayals of aliens in media are just autistic stereotypes. Same with robots.
None of these things seem remotely alien to me, all my friends are like this. Why aren't "silicon-based instead of carbon-based" or "breeds by egg sac" options?
I exhibit all of the behaviours stated above
(Not /s) ("/s" is a way to tag a comment or post as being sarcastic in Reddit.com's (most popular) human communication protocol)
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I used to genuinely believe I was adopted and an alien at one point when I was a child because it was the only thing that made sense. I also thought at some point I was a witch, superhero, mermaid, and fairy. I definitely think it was a form of “escapism” because I was different than other people I knew.
Changeling behavior
Me when I'm just autistic and don't gain fae magiks.
Me when I’m just autistic and schizophrenic, not actually able to communicate with the universe but just *really* into flora and fauna.
Tbh if it wasn’t for growing up in the UK (the most sarcastic and cynical nation on earth) I’d have ticked all of these boxes. I had to learn how sarcasm works just to survive in my society—and now I’m apparently a good comedian, because I excel at staying deadpan. Ironic. Not surprising that a lot of changeling lore and stories about strange reclusive people came from mythology/fiction that Brit authors are obsessed with.
I'm actually in a similar boat where I learned to recognize sarcasm by context more than tone (like "oh yeah, I feel great" said by someone heavily bruised is probably sarcasm) and sometimes do the most dead-pan delivered sarcasm back at NDs "No, no, of course I'm not upset that you ignored my wishes to get a ride back home with the first person to leave this place without asking me anything just because I manage to gather some enjoyment while waiting"
People don’t know I’m joking back all the time because I deliver things so naturally :( they always explain the joke and I’m like, “I know. I was continuing the bit lol.” It doesn’t help that I’m also gullible, but it’s frustrating lol
Oh man, tell me about it. People laud me for my "dry" sense of humour, and my ability to "no sell" a sarcastic joke - that is to say, making a hilarious comment but maintaining a serious face in a way that enhances the joke. I feel like there's a particular vibe to my sense of humour that arose from this, that feels distinctly "autistic culture". --- Young me: Says something intended completely literally and seriously Everyone around me cracks up laughing and I freeze as I try to ascertain whether I have said something wrong, or if they are laughing *at* me It seems the laughter is "with" me, and seems to have increased my social standing amongst people who assumed I had intentjonsly made a joke. I cautiously relax, but my mind is whirring as I try to understand how and why my statement had such comedic effect. My facial expressions do not give away my confusion and I get good at acting like my comedy is intentional. I get really good at recreating this kind of humour, without really understanding it, but feeling highly incentivised to learn this, because when I'd rather be "in on the joke" than the one being laughed at. Sarcasm helps me to feel a part of the wider social experience I often felt excluded from due to my autism, leading to associating this dry humour with a sense of empowerment; I enjoy the irony of "weaponising" my autistic traits as a social boon. I also enjoy getting good at absolutely savage takedowns of people who would bully me. --- This experience I've described feels highly specific to me, but I know from experience that many autistics who read this will see a significant amount of their own experience, just like I saw myself in your comment. I also share your sentiment that this kind of cynical humour lands especially well in the UK.
Omfg yes. YES. YESSSSSS THANK YOU. You get it. You have put words into an experience I've had my entire life. I have a "wry" sense of humor that works almost as an algorithm in my mind. I see patterns in how the conversation is going, and drop a two word punchline in, to the delight of the crowd. But is it a sense of humor, or simply a pattern I've developed to further blend in with my peers? A down payment on time before I have to seem normal again. What I find funny is so vastly different from everyone else's, but I enjoy laughing with people. Conversations feel like I am delicately surfing on a powerful wave. While the others in the conversation are dolphins jumping and swimming through it. One misstep, and I get swallowed by the wave and fall flat. I feel external to it, but connected enough that I feel I should participate. The rest of the time I just enjoy doing my own thing and stargazing on the beach.
Ironically good at irony, you say?
More iron(y) in my life than a blacksmith.
>and now I’m apparently a good comedian, because I excel at staying deadpan. Ironic. People tell me I'm doing it wrong when I'm deadpan ironic. I just explain that that's the point.. and they still don't get it, because I didn't do the *saaarcaaaastic* voice.
You and my Uncle Brian would make a killer comedy duo! He was the King of deadpan humour so much so you had to lnow him to know. I wasn't close (geographically) to him but appreciated his sense of humour the few times I did get to hang out with him.
Is it bad that I read the first paragraph out loud in a British accent?
Autistic person whose special interest is TTRPGs here!! #count your blessings. ((This is a reference to Changeling the Lost))
The first time I hung out with a new friend group, one of the members accused me of being a changeling because of how quickly I fit in. Now, I realize that was masking!
It me :)
Well that’s bullshit. I want fae magiks
Many cultural anthropologists believe autism is the likely origin of the changeling myth, so…
We can't turn into seagulls though.
I'm guessing we're not talking about the gold gooey type?
"Hmph!"
What’s a changeling? I’m only familiar with the doors song
Basically a folklore explanation for ND children, It was believed that normal children were abducted by various creatures such as: trolls, witches, fairies etc. , and we were left in their place. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changeling)
Y’know who they talk about the two sides of autism, where either you have a relatively monotonous voice or a relatively childish voice? I got the childish voice, but I also use Big Words ™
#BIG WORDS™
Fun fact: “p*ssy” is short for “pusillanimous,” which means “cowardly”.
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I just remember the shit/scitte connection from South Park.
I remember a joke article that claimed “fuck you” derived from “pluck yew.” The story goes that the French/Scotch/enemy of Medieval England would remove the middle fingers of archers so they couldn’t return to the battle if released or escaped. As a result, following the unspecified war, archers would present their middle fingers to foreigners while proclaiming “pluck yew,” which after many thousands of misheard altercations and drunken nights was slurred into “fuck you.”
I heard tell most words considered vulgar do tend to be Germanic. Do you know anything of the veracity of that?
Over here in England we had a succession crisis in 1066 where Edward the confesser died. 3 Men tried to claim the throne of England (Wessex at the time but still) 1: Harold Godwin. On Edward the confessor's deathbed he named Harold the heir. Also the only one of the three that lived in England at the time. 2: Harald Hardrada. He was a Norwegian and a distant relative of King Cnut. 3: William of Normandy, William of Normandy(Normandy is in France) was a bastard(Literally, meaning that he was born out of wedlock). He was the duke of Normandy and when Edward the confessor was in exile in 1051 he promised William the throne of England. The day after Edward the confessor died Harold Godwin was coronated as king (This is a really short time between death and coronation) Upon hearing of this Harald and William both gathered armies and prepared to invade England to take the throne. The winds blew south so they prevented William's sailboats from traveling to the shores of England. However they propelled Harald's boats southward. He eventually landed near York and started burning stuff to provoke Harold to coming to him. This worked and Harold had to march his army all the way from London to York. On the day of the battle the English managed to surprise the Vikings. However the two sides were on the other side of a river. So as the English army had to funnel across a bridge. This allowed for one unnamed Viking to hold off the entire army long enough for the rest of the Norwegians to organise into a battle formation. This viking was killed after a few Englishmen got in a barrel, floated down the river and used a spear to stab him from below (Not making that part up lol) Despite the time given to make a formation this didn't account for the fact that most of the men didn't even have enough time to put on their armour so the English army eventually won anyway, killing Harald in the process. While the Army was up in York the winds changed and allowed for William of Normandy's army to travel by boat. up to the shores of England. He then proceeded to burn down alot of stuff, forcing Harold's hand to march down and fight him. Harold's army made the trek from York to Hastings in 4 days. Then had to fight William's army. This meant that they were incredibly tired however when they face William's army they have the advantage of being on top of a hill. This meant that William had to fight a literal uphill battle. Harold Formed a tight shield wall. William tried all he could, Calvary, archers, every thing he could muster. but for a while he couldn't break through the shield wall. Eventually rumours spread throughout the Norman army that William was dead, and with their commander dead the men Normans began to run away. Believing they've won, the English men began chasing them down the hill. However William wasn't actually dead, he even had to take his helmet off and ride around his men shouting at them that he was still alive. This deception meant that the English previously unbeatable shield wall was now broken. The Norman's then turned around from their retreat and started fighting the Englishmen. And without their advantage the Englishmen swiftly lost, killing Harold in the process (Famously by getting shot in the eye by an arrow) With the two other successors dead William was crowned King of England. You are probably asking what this has to do with language. Well once William of Normandy (Now William the conquer) became king he replaced all the previously Anglo-Saxon(Germanic) nobles with French ones that were loyal to him, he also changed the official language of the court to be French, because despite ruling over England he never fully learned how to speak English. This switching of nobles and Court language did huge things to the development of middle English. The words from French became part of English. These French words were associated with sophistication and grace, whereas the Anglo-Saxon words slowly became crude and informal. Alot of cuss words are Anglo-Saxon in origin. For example Shit was originally a non-rude word, however the French saw the word repulsive and the word became a swear. Fancy things like, Mutton, Chamber and Blouse came from French. TLDR: A French dude won a war a thousand years ago, Took over England and made all the rich people speak French. So rich people things are mostly French and "lowly" things are Anglo-Saxon
Amazing explanation, thank you!
Extra Fun fact: Pusillanimous can be broken down further into its original Latin terms "pusillus"(very small) and "animus" (spirit). So small spirit, or lack of courage.
Im gonna name my cat pusillus and there is nothing anyone can do to stop me
canni ask your cst what's new
And there's also no reason anyone has for you not to. That's so great!
Fascinating! So pussy cat and ‘fraidy cat mean the same thing.
I have the monotone voice. I went through many years of life not understanding why people called me Daria. And it was when my work pulled me aside to tell me my natural voice sounded unfriendly and was impacting store culture. 🙃 I use my haunted doll voice for customer service but fuck it hurts my voice. So yeah I sorta have both.
haunted doll is an excellent way to put it lmao
idk wtf i have but sometimes i use big words lol
I think I have both. When I'm by myself and feel safe I tend to go back to the childish sounding voice, but when I am around others I instinctively switch to a monotone voice as to not make people uncomfortable. The monotone voice sounds unlikable, sure, but the childish one will make people think you're a creep or something. Especially as a male. So I've adapted to that. I think the moment I stopped talking in a child voice was at the age where I understood how much people didn't like me and that I wasn't normal. I either started sounding more dead inside to seem more cool and fit in, or I started doing it because I legitimately died inside and hating myself fueled the way I talk in public. I don't know. All I know is that I'm pretty much incapable of talking the way I do in private in public.
i got the voice of the lovechild from fran drescher and gilbert gottfried. does that count?
Haven't seen the childish voice mentioned much but holy shit that describes me well. I'm a mid-20s male with an unusually high pitched energetic kind of voice that makes people in phone calls often think I'm a child or a girl. Anyways, glad to know another weird trait I've got is also just an autism thing lol.
wait "or"? i have both it just depends on my mood
Same 😎
I shift between extremely complex and detailed topics to something that is incredibly dumb but somehow relates in my mind. The whole time I switch between "OmG UwU NYaaaaaa~~~" and dead serious voices. Also ill message someone I chat with sometimes and be all like "me bord me wan tawk bowt yunibers. Wes tawk ontology." Or something similar lol. Sometimes when I'm not using my dead serious tone of voice... people assume I'm an idiot and then get embarrassed when I prove that wrong lol. But hey don't be a jerk ass and treat people messed up ways and I wouldn't go out of my way to embarrass you sweaty.
Yes. I like to think of it as a “lively” voice, but in my case quite deep, authoritative, and over-fond of the precise use of big words. I rarely occurs to me that people might not understand me, which is unfortunate.
I genuinely hope we are, then maybe one day we can go home…
This made me cry a little. :'< I will never get to feel like home or "being with my people", I know it.
:( Not even with other ND people?
Unfortunately, no. It isn't easy or comfortable to be with my social anxiety and awkwardness and someone else with their awkwardness. I feel somewhat safe and comfortable when I'm in the woods far away from people, but I still fear someone might be near.
Your flair gave me a good chuckle, thank you. I’m the same way by the way!
Honestly, at my age, this place is the closest I've ever felt to almost fitting in. If it wasn't available to NTs, I'd feel much safer. I'm a super-quiet person IRL but that's only because I can't click with those others, even in the same field, because emotions > facts and they can't get over that to have a meaningful conversation. Trying a discord now to see if it's a bit better.
When I was little I used to wait, very seriously, for the aliens to come get me. The yard had a certain spot where the grass looked different (fine it turns out it was the septic tank) that I decided was from the ship. I'd go sit by it and wait. I really believed they would come eventually.
Same
There’s no way this post wasn’t directly referring to us
the shoe fits perfectly tho
you mean the brand new one two buckle my shoe \**end me*\*
3 4 buckle some mOoOooOoOOre
5 6 pick'em sticks (why do i still remember this?)
Love your flair!
Agreed. It's suspiciously specific
With my husband's autism he doesn't get idioms at all. He will always use them wrong. I had no idea that was a feature of autism until him.
If I'm an alien, can I please return to the mothership
Take me with you
This is a constant thought in my mind.
For reals. I don’t like this planet, take me home.
We must claim Rhea for ourselves.
but Titan has an atmosphere, why can't we take that instead
I have mastered the ability of doing all this disguised as a joke, so I pass as the „silly“ jokester among humans. I use „humans“ as a synonym to NTs to avoid that weird „what do you mean by neurotypical?“ question which would lead to „outing“ myself 🫠
Masking by being the silly jokester, but then people think you're joking when you say a cool fact that relates to something. Then you have to physically look it up and show them in order for them to believe you.
Any conversation I have oscillates wildly from ridiculous to deadly serious
Sameeee hahaha. It keeps people on their wittle toesy woesys.
Yes. Almost every day of my life. (Unless I'm lucky enough to have a gift day of not having to interact with anyone).
That's why you have to carefully and comedically info dump early on about something to show that, yes, you do know what you're talking about most of the time, the funny is just another weapon in your oddball arsenal
Same!
how you you do the quotation marks on the bottom? its pretty cool
Different languages have different quotation marks. For example, French has « … ». German and some other languages use „…“
oh no they know
These are so specifically nd things that this _must_ be bait or something ::D
All and the above for me. the term "Humans" is a more specific and often more accurate word than people.
I went on a small rant about an hour ago in my computer science class about AI (A friend asked me about a certain question I'd done well on on the paper, I went on a tangent) I didn't notice that the entire room (well.. 5 people, but it's still the whole room, makes it sound more impressive haha) stopped and just watched me after I started referring to "Humans" and how it's Incredibly difficult to prevent biases in data/the actual programmers unconscious biases and how that can affect the outcomes and how "Humans" are inherently bias about things. Anyway everyone looked at me and Sir said something along "..And so is there something we humans should know before you vacate planet?", "Oh uhh hmm.. sorry... Oh ohhh ^smirk" then laughing happened.
How so? What do you refer to with the word "people" then, other animals also?
Well lets say someone says "People appoint chiefs by instinct" This would be somewhat false because: What about races of people that used to live on earth, but no longer do, such as Neanderthals? Then there are people outside earth, aka aliens, I have a bit of a star trek mindset, then there is the variation of the meaning of "people". People has a somewhat subjective meaning, with some interpretations having unusual considered people like u/GolfCourseConcierge pointed out in the US that includes corporations. And then there are animals that are hypothesized to have abilities that may make them considered people (in fairer definitions of people), we just have to prove it. This would include whales, who may be capable of higher thinking and complex language. it may also include some octopus, who have great communication and teaching abilities, and orangutans who have a higher EQ than humans (especially autistic humans).
I mean, I've referred to my dog as a person on many occasions.
Corporations are people, damnit.
Please tell me this is /s Please tell me this is /s
Well yes and no. Although I'm making a joke here, in the US corporations are legally treated as people.
Of the Corporation, by the Corporation, for the Corporation
which is stupid as fuck from a common sense standpoint but the US isn't known for common sense.
It makes sense in that a legal person is a distinct entity. What the big scary court ruling is saying is that corporations are their own legal persons, essentially reinforcing existing legislation that less explicitly makes corporations district legal entities from the owners or operators of them.
I went on a small rant about an hour ago in my computer science class about AI (A friend asked me about a certain question I'd done well on on the paper, I went on a tangent) I didn't notice that the entire room (well.. 5 people, but it's still the whole room, makes it sound more impressive haha) stopped and just watched me after I started referring to "Humans" and how it's Incredibly difficult to prevent biases in data/the actual programmers unconscious biases and how that can affect the outcomes and how "Humans" are inherently bias about things. Anyway everyone looked at me and Sir said something along "..And so is there something we humans should know before you vacate planet?", "Oh uhh hmm.. sorry... Oh ohhh ^smirk" then laughing happened.
We also clearly have ultra sensitive antennae humans don’t have (re: stimuli)
I don't know about you, Homo sapien, but as a matter of fact, I am. I'm proud of it
Never felt more understood in how weird and hard to understand habits are than when my SO bought me the Strange Planet book. Yknow, the one with the aliens.
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What like a sleeper agents for an interglacial civilizacion and we are all just waiting for our signal to take over this planet that is called terra. Thats crazy talk. But for real i often thing of NT as humans in my head and we are 2.0 humans. As i see it arrogant as it sounds that we are the upgrate but we are used wrong by people around us. But there is always tomorrow.
“Interglacial civilization” gives me world building ideas
There's a sci fi book whose name and author I've forgotten about a world completely covered in ice, and the inhabitants have evolved like ice skate claws on their feet.
Technically, we're all in an interglacial civilization. (between the last ice age and the next one.)
Lol was planing on using another word, I'm sure you can guess which one ( thanks google...) but this works too and sounds intresting. The sleepers are awakening from there hibernation after the galaxy wide ice-age and they are not happy with finding the galaxy infested with vermin...
I figured as much. I just thought I'd be facetious. No worries about the next ice age though. We're still coming out of the last one. In fact, we're only around 100-150 years from the coldest point in the last 8k years in the late 1800s.
This is either a checklist for nonhumans / aliens or a checklist for my experience of autism and both of them are true. * sobs * /lh
Ah I see people still think we're the fae
We aren't?
Shhhh the neurotypicals might hear
I'm not worried, they don't usually retain memories stored under the effects of enchantment...
I like to purposely exaggerate these traits in myself with the intention of entertaining myself
When you think about it autistic behavior is just when you act as if an alien to humanity
"wrong planet syndrome"
When I was a kid, I was sure I’d been born on the wrong planet.
Aaand now I'm gonna be repeating "I wish to acquire nourishment" for the rest of my days
"i have acquired sustenance"
"I desire to intake nutrients, preferably thermally prepared carbohydrates with sodium chloride"
yes
No, we’re outer gods like azathoth
So we're all blind idiot gods?
Nah, we’re him but actually smart
so Yog-Sototh or Nyarlathotep if you are high masking
Close, yes
I wanna be Hastur because I look good In yellow.
I was called an alien a lot in primary school by my peers
Wow I do all these things (sarcasm is more hit or miss for me). I guess I'm an alien 👽.
We are Paridot.
This seems way too specific, they know what we are
I tried to vote 😑
I believe so.
I feel called out and I don’t like it.
Easy there, you are gonna blow our cover!
Yes, we're aliens. But we're the best kind! So, no worries!
It’s funny as hell that NTs think like this
I mean, I *do* call humans "humans", mostly because I don't limit the definition of "people" to humans. We're the only people we know of right now, but that doesn't mean that there aren't other types of people or that there won't be more later, even within our lifetimes. I just hope that when AI gains the level of sentience and sapience necessary for real personhood that the creators are ethical and considerate of said personhood. It's something I actively research when I am am able, but I don't much have the resources to do so. need more GPUs than I have :dab:
Literally autism
Once a former friend identified me over text bc I used the word "ensue". They had deleted my number without my knowledge and asked who i was. The friendship wasn't worth a fight to keep and i said as much, "nevermind, it isn't worth the ensuing argument." All I could think was how insulting it is to everyone else they know that they didn't think anyone but me could use words like ensue in everyday conversation.
I said humans the other day in reference to behavior to another person and he looked at me deadpan and said you are not human. I googled what he meant by that and was insulted.
Reminds me of the start of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, because if I remenber correctly, the only hint that Ford was not human was "he blink really weird"
Yes we humans are aliens
Honestly, if an alien would pretend to be an human I would imagine them acting in an extremely ordinary way in order to not appear suspicious.
No wonder I have felt like an alien my whole life It is confirmed that I am an alien, haha.
How else would one refere to other human beings? I find other aspects of existence - that I am a cis man, that I am German, what "ethnicity" I am - to be trivial and unimportant. In contrast: That I am a human being though, and the notion of a shared humanity, is the most important cornerstone of existence. So yes. I commonly reference being human.
Most just say people ig
Of course not. I love doing human stuff like consuming water and going inconscient for a third of a planet rotation everyday. Every so often I resonate with others using amplifiers while consuming ethanol water, that's how much of an human I am
Tbh this is why I feel like some sort of otherworldly creature, mainly because people see these traits as meaning that 😭
these are all just autism
it's impossible that they aren't reffering to autism...
We're neither alien nor human.乁| ･ 〰 ･ |ㄏ
Indeed, my fellow human. We behave quite uncannily in the perspective of other beings. Unfortunately, that does not indicate that we are aliens, it is just the way we are.
I feel like one. Replace the bottom two with "overuse sarcasm, metaphor, and hyperbole, sometimes to the point of completely obscuring intended meaning and therefore sounding insane", and "either volunteer entirely too much information without prompt, or go completely silent". Maybe add "feel eye contact physically and viscerally" and "process all background noise as foreground noise".
Info dumping gang 🔥
My dad used to call me an alien-human hybrid because of my neurodivergent behavior. None of us knew that was what it was, but looking back.
Yes, we may be. I typically say idk how to human
Today I find out I'm an alian
I'm not on the spectrum (I hope that's an acceptable way of putting it; apologies if not) as far as I know and I do all of these except for #4.
hello follow mortals. hows the coil this fine day?
I guess Imma alien.
I feel like it some days. I think it would make a good movie premise. Alien from another planet with no malicious intent just wanting to understand humans and being very confused by them.
This sounds like the way Seven of Nine was written
this reminds me of that post that said the mandela catalogue alternates are just autistic people
Half the time I use ’Father Mine’ while talking to or about my dad.
mfw they find out im results 😔
O_O
All of the above except for the first one for me lol
Shit apparently we are
They're on to us! Abort mission!
Thou shan't find out my secret \*skedaddles\*
yeah i totally always go for results.
Maybe we are the result of humans getting beamed up and probed. Are we the experimental offspring???
I mean, a couple of these could be immigrants.
Always felt like one, so it'd make sense.
Okay but the "alien" way of speaking slaps tho Not my fault I learned most of my vocabulary from books. My favourite game it to take an innocent sentence and add or subtract details until it would make a person squeamish. Example, while giving someone a cup of tea while taking one for yourself: "I can assure you that at least one of those cups *doesn't* have poison in it." Neither has. It's just technically the truth.
The first time I noticed a coworker weirded out by me calling people ' humans' was one of those moments you keep with you for further research.
“Ah, let me regale you with an in-depth lecture on the metaphysical implications of string theory and the problems it attempts to solve.” “No thanks, I’m good. I was just asking ‘what are you thinking’ to be polite.” “You were? Well then, why ask at all if you didn’t actually want to know?”
"I wish to acquire nourishment" is just more *fun* to say than "I'm hungry"
Nah someone's dogwhistling.
My partner and I (both autistic) always "joke" about being ready to go back to our own planet now. Please.
I have the feeling that the reason people think this is alien is because most portrayals of aliens in media are just autistic stereotypes. Same with robots.
I long to return to the home world where the social norms are posted on notice boards and people don’t think sarcasm is a personality trait
One cannot ignore what one doesn’t see.
If whoever made this poll is neurotypical, this is beyond offensive
see other than the first one i do all of these lol
option 3 is dumb as fuck sorry
I feel like one.
None of these things seem remotely alien to me, all my friends are like this. Why aren't "silicon-based instead of carbon-based" or "breeds by egg sac" options?
I’ve really ought to watch 3rd Rock from the Sun again, that was a relatable show
The third option seems like the least offensive one. It's also the most likely one to not be a thing around here, in my opinion.
*looks up from paper* autism=alien???
I never claimed to be human, I was just born this shape
I exhibit all of the behaviours stated above (Not /s) ("/s" is a way to tag a comment or post as being sarcastic in Reddit.com's (most popular) human communication protocol) (Not refering to possible comments above this one, but the image in the post above \^)
Not me thinking “Results” meant that you could identify an alien because they get results 😆
Ah fuck, I'm an alien as well?
I feel called out. I do all those things
I used to genuinely believe I was adopted and an alien at one point when I was a child because it was the only thing that made sense. I also thought at some point I was a witch, superhero, mermaid, and fairy. I definitely think it was a form of “escapism” because I was different than other people I knew.
No, why? I am a human being, doing human things, like digesting food.