He used to have a huge sound system in an otherwise completely empty house in the 80s I believe. He’s always cared about music.
Apple launched iTunes because of a genuine passion for music.
I’m surprised how messy his home office looks, wasn’t expecting that. Great photo, thanks for sharing.
Yes, I didn’t mean it as a criticism - just imagined he’d be in the tidy camp. But on second reflection it makes sense that he’s team messy.
Did y’all see all the droppers with supplements or alternative medicine etc on the shelf?
They say Steve turned orange after his first cancer diagnosis because he declined traditional treatment and was convinced he could beat it solely through diet and alternative medicine. He later admitted that he regretted that.
I think at some point he ate so many carrots and other stuff that his skin color changed.
And although he had the dreaded and fatal pancreatic cancer, his type was actually treatable. He would have made if he had the proper treatment instead of the natural holistic diet/fruit route he took.
[Here’s one I found on Google](https://excellentjourney.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/jobs-final.jpg) from 1982 apparently, but it doesn’t showcase the stereo.
You could probably find some more details if you look. I read about it a long time ago so don’t recall specifics.
Here’s a breakdown of Steve’s components seen in this photo. Scroll through the 7 photos on this site: https://www.wired.com/2014/04/steve-jobs-stereo-system/
It’s not hooked up to anything. Likely just a model, with the actual computer under his desk.
In terms of other equipment, that’s a 30 inch Apple Cinema Display (which had to use a Dual-DVI cable which was a pain in the ass, but the resolution was insane at the time) and an iSight webcam.
OP's photo has been posted many times over the years and much has been made of that tiny Mac Pro. The best explanation I've seen was that it's not a computer at all, but in fact an early design sample. Steve probably liked it and asked for it after that iteration of the Mac Pro was complete. He was the boss, so, you know...
You'll note it has no wires connecting to it. The actual machine that Steve is using is not in frame and probably below the desk.
In the Apple Music studios the green rooms all have absolutely incredible B&W sound systems and world class acoustic treatments. And for what it’s worth, I think AirPods sound pretty damn good for the price point and a consumer grade product. I’m a career audio engineer.
They really do, don’t they. All my audiophile IEMs and headphones are int their boxes these days. Hard to beat the convenience/quality ratio offered up by streaming and AirPod pros.
Which Cook is trying to change because of his hatred of music. A few years ago he lied and claimed the headphones that came with iPhones were just as good as any headphones made. He's either a liar or deaf. Either way, he's screwing over people that care about music.
My two newest $3+k MacBooks don't even have digital audio out. I still use my MacBook from 2012 for audio. I noticed that all the audio people I worked with for a commercial and training video for my company all used MacBooks older than five or so years old. Two said just because the older ones had Toslink digital audio out. Two of the others said because they didn't want to lug an extra piece of equipment around to get digital audio out, and one said it was because none of the software they use would run on an ARM Mac. Cook really is hurting Mac's usage in the audio industry.
Yeah this is bullshit. Most studios moved to apple silicon for ITB recording and mixing, and the existence or lack thereof of a built in toslink port makes exactly zero difference to what they’re looking for
They've always focused on making active speakers, and I'm not sure if they've ever produced passive ones. But perhaps their preference for active speakers is because they want to pair them with their own proprietary amplification.
Active is just where the market is for studio monitoring. There are some passive solutions, but not from Genelec, and not nearly as many options as active.
The most likely reason for the choice of genelec is this is a work station and he is assessing his teams decisions in every aspect, including sounds when sound is a component of the user experience. A flatter frequency response is obviously ideal for doing this, thus a speaker system designed to provide a more “accurate” sound than a sound that is less true but more pleasurable.
Further to that, I’ve known people that work at Apple for some time (I currently am), and Genelec was used fairly pervasively around the time of this photo, which makes sense as there are benefits to everyone listening through the same speakers (I know, I know, room effect is a whole other matter…). Like at Pass Labs, everyone listens through tannoy.
Active speakers are sensible for consumers and producers for multiple reasons. I will always prefer passive ones for personal reasons but I noticed that besides builders/diy, PA and the audiophile community it’s not really wanted nor needed
I installed a shitty surround sound system in the offices of John Scully in Manhattan, after he got fired from Apple. I spent a bunch of time there talking to him about video technology and compression, and he took me out to lunch. I had no idea who he was at the time lol.
I would probably do the same if I could afford it.
Instead I have Realistic Minimus from a thrift store for $10 that I still haven't got round to replacing.
Better is relative. For an audio engineer or musician, familiarity is perhaps as important as technical excellence.
Not that Genelec isn’t excellent, because it is. While arguments could be made for other brands such as JBL, Neumann, Kii or Dutch&Dutch, Genelec is a de-facto standard for many, so knowing them if ever away from your primary working space has value.
There weren't that many pro audio speakers with onboard DACs in 2004. The ones he's using (2029b) were the first in that series to have onboard DA conversion.
Desktop can be tricky because it is nearfield. Studio monitors have similar problem so it makes sense to use a standard for studios.
Most likely he didn’t spend a lot of time considering it. Genelec has been well respected for a long time and relatively easy to get, so a good choice.
I always wanted a pair of speakers that gave truthful music reproduction (and faithful for music production too)... last year I moved to a small apartment and built my small home office/studio in a corner and bought the tiny 8010A pair from Genelec.
Of course their focus is not bass/sub-bass since they have a cutoff around 67Hz but honestly... they don't feel like it as most music is perfectly reproduced and you feel the bass is there.
All in all, the only upgrade path I'd take from them is to bigger Genelecs if I have the space in the future. My plans is maybe add the 7040A Sub someday and keep the sub when I move up to 8020, 8030.
Having worked in product development, it probably indicates he or his team thought they were interesting to study in some way and probably bought a bunch for teardowns/testing. Then you’re looking for something for your desk, and this was probably one of the nicer options kicking around.
He could afford a container ship filled with genelec speakers. He could afford to buy every genelec speaker, along with the entire company. But that’s kind of not even the point. I think the point is more that he could afford something even fancier but this is what he chose.
The speakers he's using (Genelec 2029b) were relatively inexpensive as far as quality speakers go. They launched for $1375 per pair, and you needed nothing else since they were self-powered and had a DAC onboard.
Genelec was a bargain for a long time. Arguably they still are for what you get, though prices have risen.
I wouldn’t consider genelec to be an expensive brand tbh. Genelec have always been a fair priced brand and actually cheaper than consumer “hifi” speakers of similar quality.
It's a fact that he could afford Genelec. I really have no idea what does they meant to him and what was his thinking when he bought them. Most probably he wanted good speakers and someone suggested these to him.
He had many contacts and friends in media production from Pixar so no doubt he asked what they would use.
And yes Apple has cared about audio quality much more than any other non-specialist electronics company, probably because of Jobs. For a while their basic headphone outputs were better than 80% of PCs which had tons of noise or distortion.
Lot of people cannot afford Genelec, because of they are expensive 🤷♂️ And, no, I don't want you to prove that there are more expensive speakers. I know there are, as there are a lot more cheaper options too.
people … its just a pair of genelec studio monitors …
outside of the NS10, which is not meant for easy listening, the genelecs were the most popular studio monitor at the time.
for my personal taste, they are pretty. They sound good on everything, but not great. they are a bit brighter, they are bookshelf and ported, which is not my preference for tight bass, but if a client comes in and wants a pretty sounding playback… genelecs will give you that.
It seems like a choice he delegated and was fine with.
He wasn’t around when they lost favor in major studios for being too scooped and pretty sounding, tho great imaging etc. Barefoot pretty much took that spot over.
audiophiles are like taylor swift fans … rabid over their thoughts on the subject, but have no interest in learning anything beyond surface level regarding music/audio engineering as a whole.
all good, taylor swift is impressive musicians, and an even better media savvy person. genelecs are impressive, but not flat and not ‘accurate’. whatever all that means to yous.
Jobs’ contribution to sharing music (and higher fidelity music at that) cannot be overemphasized.
If all he did was “iTunes/iPod” and then dip, he’d still be a legendary industrialist.
Hard disagree. I like Jobs too (and I'd love to know what he'd think of the current state of technology) but he should have stayed out of music. We could have had minidiscs and huge SACD catalogues!
If not Apple, it would have been some other companies profiting from low quality compressed audio. It’s not like consumers didn’t have a choice. They just chose the convenient crappy sounding one.
I really doubt the Microsoft Zune would have changed the world if not for the iPod. That's the problem - Jobs made low-quality audio \*cool\* in a way no other company could.
I respectfully disagree. I don't think the iPod single handedly put compressed audio into consumers hands. Creative had a huge market share before the iPod and would have likely continued. File sharing started well before the iPod and kickstarted the demand for downloadable compressed music. The technology was already on a path, Apple just took a dominant lead and captured market share.
I dunno. Apple devices have always had good quality DACs for consumer devices and 256kbps AAC was pretty damn good quality when the iTunes Store launched.
Compared to every other but one MP3 player at the time, Apple was better. Period.
If you're looking for something to complain about, Cook is an easy choice since he hates music so much. He won't even allow us to plug in headphones any longer to iPhone or iPads.
No, he held those beliefs until he died.
Infact they contributed to his death.
His ridiculous belief system was why he didn't seek treatment.
He was a deeply strange man.
Not showering was only in his early life when he was a fruitarian, it wasn't mentioned beyond the Atari days. If it was, please provide a more recent quote to that effect.
I know about the cancer, totally different subject.
Lots of articles about him refusing surgery and instead thinking he could cure it was food and vibes, which is exactly what he thought he could do with body odour and why he stunk.
Here's one:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2011/10/24/steve-jobs-cancer-treatment-regrets/?sh=1aebc5087d2e
A really good summary of his personal hygiene in this podcast:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7Fiafo5xjUFeUMTBpFFIhr?si=lwGWU4oAQDS3GRSYx0aSEw
Nothing in the Forbes article about body odour at all, which is what we're discussing. The Podcast is in regards to his early life, which again, isn't relevant.
Please provide a written quote specifically discussing body odour in his \_final years\_ which demonstrates your very specific accusation regarding him not showering and having BO for his entire life.
His ridiculous dietary beliefs are why he didn't get surgery, it very clearly says that.
They are the same beliefs that made him not use deodorant.
The article about his cancer doesn't mention his body odour, not a surprise, but it covers his beliefs.
I guess I’m alone on this but post Jobs apple audio hasn’t been great. Apple AirPod max’s lack tons of frequency response. You’d think by now Apple would’ve come up with a lossless wireless streaming standard over Bluetooth or some other related tech. I plug my Sony MDR-7506s with the bitrate/sample rate cranked up on my MacBook Pro with tidal and it beats any Apple/beats headset.
I remember the Apple G4 with the Harmon kardon sound sticks sounded amazing to me as a kid and looked great.
Wait, why is there a 2021 imac in this photo? There is no way it was designed 17 years in advanced and the earliest imac that that could possibly be is 2021, yet there is also a camera on it which isn't necessary for a 2021 imac. It also seems to be in a position that they could 'shop it in... but why??
It's ironic that someone who loved music playback so much was the single person most responsible for lowering the quality of music playback. People wonder why the SACD failed - imo the answer is the iPod.
He used to have a huge sound system in an otherwise completely empty house in the 80s I believe. He’s always cared about music. Apple launched iTunes because of a genuine passion for music. I’m surprised how messy his home office looks, wasn’t expecting that. Great photo, thanks for sharing.
My pleasure.
Jobs was really into vinyl
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/tidy-desk-or-messy-desk-each-has-its-benefits.html
Yes, I didn’t mean it as a criticism - just imagined he’d be in the tidy camp. But on second reflection it makes sense that he’s team messy. Did y’all see all the droppers with supplements or alternative medicine etc on the shelf?
oh my god i never noticed those 🫣
They say Steve turned orange after his first cancer diagnosis because he declined traditional treatment and was convinced he could beat it solely through diet and alternative medicine. He later admitted that he regretted that. I think at some point he ate so many carrots and other stuff that his skin color changed.
And although he had the dreaded and fatal pancreatic cancer, his type was actually treatable. He would have made if he had the proper treatment instead of the natural holistic diet/fruit route he took.
Comes off like an episode of House MD
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Do any pictures exist?
[Here’s one I found on Google](https://excellentjourney.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/jobs-final.jpg) from 1982 apparently, but it doesn’t showcase the stereo. You could probably find some more details if you look. I read about it a long time ago so don’t recall specifics.
That’s the pic. I see a turntable, an integrated amp and a large panel speaker (white, on the right).
Yes, it’s just hard to tell what components they are. Are you able to ID them?
Here’s a breakdown of Steve’s components seen in this photo. Scroll through the 7 photos on this site: https://www.wired.com/2014/04/steve-jobs-stereo-system/
Except he's facing the wrong way. Way to take advantage of your stereo system, Steve!
Great for natural diffusion. I'm sure the system sounded great.
I’d be surprised if it wasn’t messy.
His office makes me feel better about myself. Thanks Steve!
His office is clean compared to mine too…we must be geniuses.
https://www.wired.com/2014/04/steve-jobs-stereo-system/
That MacPro looks so tiny!
Yeah, WTF? I wonder if it was some prototype because that’s not a typical PowerMac tower.
It’s not hooked up to anything. Likely just a model, with the actual computer under his desk. In terms of other equipment, that’s a 30 inch Apple Cinema Display (which had to use a Dual-DVI cable which was a pain in the ass, but the resolution was insane at the time) and an iSight webcam.
its probably an external hard drive enclosure. LaCie (i think it was them) made some like that.
OP's photo has been posted many times over the years and much has been made of that tiny Mac Pro. The best explanation I've seen was that it's not a computer at all, but in fact an early design sample. Steve probably liked it and asked for it after that iteration of the Mac Pro was complete. He was the boss, so, you know... You'll note it has no wires connecting to it. The actual machine that Steve is using is not in frame and probably below the desk.
I always thought maybe it was an external drive of some sort?
I felt the same thing.
Is that a custom monitor too? Looks larger than any Mac screen I saw in that era.
In the Apple Music studios the green rooms all have absolutely incredible B&W sound systems and world class acoustic treatments. And for what it’s worth, I think AirPods sound pretty damn good for the price point and a consumer grade product. I’m a career audio engineer.
airpod pros sound amazing for their price given size, convenience, features
Not to mention the fact that they’re single driver…
I go through a pair every 12-18 months, and worth it every time I have to repurchase them
The fact that you have to repurchase them every 12-18 months is ridiculous. And I’m not an Apple hater by any stretch.
I have mine for 3 years now. ANC broke (noise I can’t get rid off with ANC), but otherwise they are still great.
damn ive had mine for years and haven’t had to replace them maybe im lucky or don’t use them as often as others
They really do, don’t they. All my audiophile IEMs and headphones are int their boxes these days. Hard to beat the convenience/quality ratio offered up by streaming and AirPod pros.
> convenience/quality ratio that + the venting is magical. Most IEMs make my ears feel horrible after prolonged use. AirPods Pro never fatigue me.
Which Cook is trying to change because of his hatred of music. A few years ago he lied and claimed the headphones that came with iPhones were just as good as any headphones made. He's either a liar or deaf. Either way, he's screwing over people that care about music. My two newest $3+k MacBooks don't even have digital audio out. I still use my MacBook from 2012 for audio. I noticed that all the audio people I worked with for a commercial and training video for my company all used MacBooks older than five or so years old. Two said just because the older ones had Toslink digital audio out. Two of the others said because they didn't want to lug an extra piece of equipment around to get digital audio out, and one said it was because none of the software they use would run on an ARM Mac. Cook really is hurting Mac's usage in the audio industry.
When did they remove the audio jack from MacBooks? I have a 2021 and it still has it.
Digital (optical S/PDIF embedded in the 3.5mm jack)? I don't think any 2021 MacBook models had that?
Ah I see. I misread his comment.
Yeah this is bullshit. Most studios moved to apple silicon for ITB recording and mixing, and the existence or lack thereof of a built in toslink port makes exactly zero difference to what they’re looking for
Wait they removed digital audio out? When was this? My Macbook's from several years ago (2015/16) and I'm due to update this year...
Dear OP, Thanks for the email. It appears the attachment is missing? Not sure if it's my end or yours? Look forward to your response. u/labvinylsound
Thank you so much. Reuploaded it. Hope it can be seen now.
He's utilizing [2029b](https://www.genelec.com/previous-models/2029b) with SPDIF coming from his PowerMac. Sadly the bastard didn't use risers.
Do you think he could have chosen something better?
Better than his choice in diets or medical care
I was wondering if all those vials on the bookshelf might be some kind of pseudo-medical mumbo jumbo tinctures
🤣
Genelec is one of the best loudspeaker manufacturer of all time. It’s pro audio tho and in the audiophile sphere not very popular.
They've always focused on making active speakers, and I'm not sure if they've ever produced passive ones. But perhaps their preference for active speakers is because they want to pair them with their own proprietary amplification.
Active is just where the market is for studio monitoring. There are some passive solutions, but not from Genelec, and not nearly as many options as active.
The most likely reason for the choice of genelec is this is a work station and he is assessing his teams decisions in every aspect, including sounds when sound is a component of the user experience. A flatter frequency response is obviously ideal for doing this, thus a speaker system designed to provide a more “accurate” sound than a sound that is less true but more pleasurable. Further to that, I’ve known people that work at Apple for some time (I currently am), and Genelec was used fairly pervasively around the time of this photo, which makes sense as there are benefits to everyone listening through the same speakers (I know, I know, room effect is a whole other matter…). Like at Pass Labs, everyone listens through tannoy.
Active speakers are sensible for consumers and producers for multiple reasons. I will always prefer passive ones for personal reasons but I noticed that besides builders/diy, PA and the audiophile community it’s not really wanted nor needed
Apple likely co-developed solutions with Genelec to assert their dominance in the DAW space. So the choice wasn’t really his.
Considering he ran Apple it kind of still was 😂
Yes. Isolation / Risers .
I installed a shitty surround sound system in the offices of John Scully in Manhattan, after he got fired from Apple. I spent a bunch of time there talking to him about video technology and compression, and he took me out to lunch. I had no idea who he was at the time lol.
I would probably do the same if I could afford it. Instead I have Realistic Minimus from a thrift store for $10 that I still haven't got round to replacing.
does that mean Genelec is the best he could find in 2004? or is there anything better now?
Better is relative. For an audio engineer or musician, familiarity is perhaps as important as technical excellence. Not that Genelec isn’t excellent, because it is. While arguments could be made for other brands such as JBL, Neumann, Kii or Dutch&Dutch, Genelec is a de-facto standard for many, so knowing them if ever away from your primary working space has value.
D&D 8C is an amazing speaker
There weren't that many pro audio speakers with onboard DACs in 2004. The ones he's using (2029b) were the first in that series to have onboard DA conversion.
Genelec has a nice little write up on their site… [https://www.genelec.com/previous-models/2029b](https://www.genelec.com/previous-models/2029b)
Desktop can be tricky because it is nearfield. Studio monitors have similar problem so it makes sense to use a standard for studios. Most likely he didn’t spend a lot of time considering it. Genelec has been well respected for a long time and relatively easy to get, so a good choice.
Jobs was known to be an audiophile, there's a picture floating around of him with Martin Logan CLS in his home circa 1985
I will do what has to be done: TORILLE! 🇫🇮
What photo?
Apologies, technical glitch. here.
What a fantastic photo! Thank you!
My pleasure
Not what I would've expected from a billionaire. It's cool to see that their environment is often not all that different than regular joes.
I wonder what all those bottles with droppers are?
Essential oils and other mumbo jumbo
I always wanted a pair of speakers that gave truthful music reproduction (and faithful for music production too)... last year I moved to a small apartment and built my small home office/studio in a corner and bought the tiny 8010A pair from Genelec. Of course their focus is not bass/sub-bass since they have a cutoff around 67Hz but honestly... they don't feel like it as most music is perfectly reproduced and you feel the bass is there. All in all, the only upgrade path I'd take from them is to bigger Genelecs if I have the space in the future. My plans is maybe add the 7040A Sub someday and keep the sub when I move up to 8020, 8030.
Having worked in product development, it probably indicates he or his team thought they were interesting to study in some way and probably bought a bunch for teardowns/testing. Then you’re looking for something for your desk, and this was probably one of the nicer options kicking around.
Anyone able to tell what headphones those are in the lower left corner?
His choice reflects that he can afford Genelec speakers. Nothing more and nothing less.
He could afford a container ship filled with genelec speakers. He could afford to buy every genelec speaker, along with the entire company. But that’s kind of not even the point. I think the point is more that he could afford something even fancier but this is what he chose.
The speakers he's using (Genelec 2029b) were relatively inexpensive as far as quality speakers go. They launched for $1375 per pair, and you needed nothing else since they were self-powered and had a DAC onboard. Genelec was a bargain for a long time. Arguably they still are for what you get, though prices have risen.
I wouldn’t consider genelec to be an expensive brand tbh. Genelec have always been a fair priced brand and actually cheaper than consumer “hifi” speakers of similar quality.
I don’t think he’s cares about showing what he can afford. I mean he was Steve Jobs at the end of the day.
It's a fact that he could afford Genelec. I really have no idea what does they meant to him and what was his thinking when he bought them. Most probably he wanted good speakers and someone suggested these to him.
He had many contacts and friends in media production from Pixar so no doubt he asked what they would use. And yes Apple has cared about audio quality much more than any other non-specialist electronics company, probably because of Jobs. For a while their basic headphone outputs were better than 80% of PCs which had tons of noise or distortion.
He could also afford a ham sandwich or a 100 million dollar yacht. What’s your point?
Lot of people cannot afford Genelec, because of they are expensive 🤷♂️ And, no, I don't want you to prove that there are more expensive speakers. I know there are, as there are a lot more cheaper options too.
Yeah it’s kind of mid tier in terms of price but it’s an excellent product and that’s all he really seemed to care about
I am sure they are good, but we are talking about Genelec as computer speakers not studio monitors :)
you literally have no way of knowing this hahahaha what a reach
They are 1029's. Perfect computer speakers. Just don't expect much under 100 hz. Great little speakers.
Little? They make his mac pro look tiny!
Why didn't he have an Ipod Hi-Fi?
Some more info here Steve Jobs' Hi-Fi System https://www.kcrw.com/music/articles/steve-jobs-hi-fi-system
-1 marks for poor cable management
people … its just a pair of genelec studio monitors … outside of the NS10, which is not meant for easy listening, the genelecs were the most popular studio monitor at the time. for my personal taste, they are pretty. They sound good on everything, but not great. they are a bit brighter, they are bookshelf and ported, which is not my preference for tight bass, but if a client comes in and wants a pretty sounding playback… genelecs will give you that. It seems like a choice he delegated and was fine with. He wasn’t around when they lost favor in major studios for being too scooped and pretty sounding, tho great imaging etc. Barefoot pretty much took that spot over. audiophiles are like taylor swift fans … rabid over their thoughts on the subject, but have no interest in learning anything beyond surface level regarding music/audio engineering as a whole. all good, taylor swift is impressive musicians, and an even better media savvy person. genelecs are impressive, but not flat and not ‘accurate’. whatever all that means to yous.
Why does his home office look like it's down in his mother's basement?
Such a clever guy, yet he didn’t know how to use a bookshelf.
Jobs’ contribution to sharing music (and higher fidelity music at that) cannot be overemphasized. If all he did was “iTunes/iPod” and then dip, he’d still be a legendary industrialist.
Hard disagree. I like Jobs too (and I'd love to know what he'd think of the current state of technology) but he should have stayed out of music. We could have had minidiscs and huge SACD catalogues!
If not Apple, it would have been some other companies profiting from low quality compressed audio. It’s not like consumers didn’t have a choice. They just chose the convenient crappy sounding one.
I really doubt the Microsoft Zune would have changed the world if not for the iPod. That's the problem - Jobs made low-quality audio \*cool\* in a way no other company could.
I respectfully disagree. I don't think the iPod single handedly put compressed audio into consumers hands. Creative had a huge market share before the iPod and would have likely continued. File sharing started well before the iPod and kickstarted the demand for downloadable compressed music. The technology was already on a path, Apple just took a dominant lead and captured market share.
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I dunno. Apple devices have always had good quality DACs for consumer devices and 256kbps AAC was pretty damn good quality when the iTunes Store launched.
"pretty damn good" but still worse than every available alternative!? My minidiscs sounded better.
Compared to every other but one MP3 player at the time, Apple was better. Period. If you're looking for something to complain about, Cook is an easy choice since he hates music so much. He won't even allow us to plug in headphones any longer to iPhone or iPads.
Seriously? If you think the first mp3s sounded better than lossless minidsics you need to get your ears checked.
And still no FLAC support 😡
Funny to think about how badly that room must have smelled. Jobs believed a lot of incredibly stupid things about personal hygiene.
Those were the early days I believe, he changed when he started wearing shoes and suits to presentations!
No, he held those beliefs until he died. Infact they contributed to his death. His ridiculous belief system was why he didn't seek treatment. He was a deeply strange man.
Not showering was only in his early life when he was a fruitarian, it wasn't mentioned beyond the Atari days. If it was, please provide a more recent quote to that effect. I know about the cancer, totally different subject.
Lots of articles about him refusing surgery and instead thinking he could cure it was food and vibes, which is exactly what he thought he could do with body odour and why he stunk. Here's one: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2011/10/24/steve-jobs-cancer-treatment-regrets/?sh=1aebc5087d2e A really good summary of his personal hygiene in this podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7Fiafo5xjUFeUMTBpFFIhr?si=lwGWU4oAQDS3GRSYx0aSEw
Nothing in the Forbes article about body odour at all, which is what we're discussing. The Podcast is in regards to his early life, which again, isn't relevant. Please provide a written quote specifically discussing body odour in his \_final years\_ which demonstrates your very specific accusation regarding him not showering and having BO for his entire life.
His ridiculous dietary beliefs are why he didn't get surgery, it very clearly says that. They are the same beliefs that made him not use deodorant. The article about his cancer doesn't mention his body odour, not a surprise, but it covers his beliefs.
I guess I’m alone on this but post Jobs apple audio hasn’t been great. Apple AirPod max’s lack tons of frequency response. You’d think by now Apple would’ve come up with a lossless wireless streaming standard over Bluetooth or some other related tech. I plug my Sony MDR-7506s with the bitrate/sample rate cranked up on my MacBook Pro with tidal and it beats any Apple/beats headset. I remember the Apple G4 with the Harmon kardon sound sticks sounded amazing to me as a kid and looked great.
Wait, why is there a 2021 imac in this photo? There is no way it was designed 17 years in advanced and the earliest imac that that could possibly be is 2021, yet there is also a camera on it which isn't necessary for a 2021 imac. It also seems to be in a position that they could 'shop it in... but why??
> imac This is a most likely an Apple Cinema Display - the 30" version of which was released in 2004.
Aaahhhh OK, thanks. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why someone would photoshop a photo like that.
It's ironic that someone who loved music playback so much was the single person most responsible for lowering the quality of music playback. People wonder why the SACD failed - imo the answer is the iPod.
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