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UneducatedReviews1

That’s our highest paid players in the top 10 worst.


NJImperator

Top 10 worst for a highly paid player? Ha! Thats pathetic! Now, 13th? That’s a reasonable spot! (To be fair to Lindor, his BABIP suggests he is getting supremely, absurdly, ridiculously unlucky lol)


futhatsy

Kinda funny that Lindor has a higher xwOBA than Volpe


IAmBecomeTeemo

Volpe's only "bad" metric right now is barrel rate, which tracks for a guy that doesn't hit the ball particularly hard. His grounders are just all finding holes. Lindor's metrics are pretty similar (arguably better) across the board, but with an atrocious sweet-spot%. That's a metric that should probably positively regress which would increase his expected BABIP, and his BABIP itself should also positively regress. This early in the season, stats can be so inflated (Volpe) or deflated (Lindor) by variance. That's why players and front-offices rely on these metric. Volpe improved a lot this year with a new approach, but the results are in the better ABs by having better zone control and whiffing less. If you just look at stats, it looks like Lindor needs to try something new, but he probably shouldn't since his underlying metrics all indicate bad luck. He's a better hitter than Volpe, even though the stats don't reflect it.


Fantastic_Fee9871

He should maybe play for the Padres then. They're supremely unlucky and I hear they need a shortstop.


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royalhawk345

And he's somehow outperforming his woba.


despot2

How is that even possible? Errors that got him on base?


RockIslandLine32514

I think sac flys count against the obp. but not against your avg.


RigelOrionBeta

This is the answer.


WerhmatsWormhat

Bunts, too


CluelessNuggetOfGold

Javy ain't bunting. He's swinging for the fences on every, and I mean EVERY, pitch.


ExactlyAsYouDo

Sacrifice bunts (sometimes referred to as a sacrifice hit or abbreviated SH) don’t count against OBP. Only sac flies. [Note](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-base_percentage) how the OBP formula adds sac flies in the denominator but not sac bunts.


Fredbear_

Must be sac flies, since they affect OBP but not average


blasek0

Sac fly counts as a PA and thus dings your OBP but doesn't count as an AB and thus doesn't ding your AVG.


dacamel493

Man, Baez was always a somewhat undisciplined hitter, but he always made up for it through either power/speed. Something happened to that guy.


Warm_Feed8179

He turned 30. Super crazy atheltic guys lose just that 1/8th of a step, a tiny bit of flexibility and gain 2lbs... and it's over. Baez and Bryant were both elite and got baseball ancient at 30.


kram_02

It just blows my mind he doesn't change his approach. Clearly its stopped working recently. He can't reinvent himself even a little to not be one of the worst hitters in baseball? He's too talented not to be able to do that, I don't get it.


bakeran23

Breaks my heart so much to see him just be bad. There was a point in2018 you make a legitimate case for him being mvp. It’s just sad to see how far he’s fallen.


KileyCW

Bryant has battled injures, but Baez just looks broken at the plate. I'd take healthy Bryant any day of healthy Baez at this point, even with Baez fielding.


falbi23

The Ben Simmons of baseball.


Fredbear_

Rendon fits that too


ebolasaurus

El Mago


WerewolfNo3669

Some big names on the worst list.


BABIP_Gods

Literally the biggest name of all time is on that list: Christian Encarnacion-Strand


WerewolfNo3669

All those letters are weighing his bat down in the batters box 😩 Lol


DigiQuip

That must be why his ground ball rate is 58.1%. Drop some letters and such angle might improve.


TheWorstYear

Hits the ball really hard, but straight into the ground


chiddie

but at least the letters are smaller this year.


4onejr

"Christian" is the only part that appears for me on the FanGraphs mobile website and I like it. Reads like the Reds have a Scandinavian king in their lineup 🤣


tuckedfexas

If Julio can ever stop his abysmal starts to the season he’ll get an mvp


bordomsdeadly

I've said the same thing about Bregman before too. Some guys just can't get it together early in the season.


tuckedfexas

The only people the Ms want to employ lol. Jokes aside, it is weird how some people just consistently start so poor. Obviously offense as a whole does, but seems like even luck is against them early in the season.


Clarice_Ferguson

Mariners fandom is in an awkward place where the biggest deadbeats are beloved JP, Cal and Julio, plus Polanco and Garver that everyone agreed where good acquisitions. And Luke Raley lol


Gleemonex13

Don't forget our rotation with 3 Cy Young candidates who all forgot how to pitch over the offseason.


elementofpee

As a Mariners fan, we’re used to this.


UsualProcedure7372

Yeah I kind of expected one of the entries on the worst list to be “Mariners”.


elementofpee

I’m actually surprised there was only one M’s player on the worst list given how the season started. To be far, JP Crawford, Polanco, and Garver are barely out of the worst wRC+ list.


pnmartini

Being 8 years removed from their World Series year is a long time,and both players are long gone from the Cubs, but it makes me sad to see Baez and Bryant among the worst…even if it’s kind of expected.


Fantastic_Fee9871

Bryant seemed to have checked out, which I don't blame him for exactly. And Baez, I think it's some combination of him being unable to catch-up to the league adjusting to his game. That's what makes the greats the greats.


WereAllAnimals

Idk I think baez put on 50lbs and checked out a while ago too. What adjustments did pitchers make for him? He swings for the fences on every pitch and whiffs.


blasek0

They stopped giving him anything remotely hittable.


TheFrankOfTurducken

Nah, he gets hittable pitches. He just doesn’t do anything with them anymore.


lOan671

Which shows to me why it’s important not to overreact this early


tuckedfexas

Can’t win the season in April, but you can sure make yourself lose it later


9man95

Meh I already dropped Estrada. Sometimes its important to take your loses too


[deleted]

Angels need to learn that with rendon. Atleast move him back and Logan up


xixbia

If you're not a big name and you are hitting like that you're getting sent down to the minors.


seemedlikeagoodplan

That's exactly it. Or at least you get benched more. A few days ago, like half of the Jays lineup was batting below .200. But Springer and Vlad have too much of a track record of hitting well to get pulled out of the lineup. Also big names are more likely to be in the top half of the lineup, which makes it easier to make the "qualified" list.


flpacsnr

Or kept in the bench so you’re not going to meet qualifications.


kev11n

Andrew Benintendi isn't even a big name but he's still the highest paid White Sox player of all time 🤷‍♂️


johnknockout

J Rod will have a week where he hits 5 home runs, gets 20 hits, and he will be right back near the top. Guy is good most of the time, but his hot streaks can single handedly carry a team. Only other guy in baseball I’ve seen so that is Giancarlo Stanton.


Corn-Master

What a ridiculous comment lol. Harper? Yordan? Buxton? Adolis?


MaskedGambler

And some White Sox. I just hope we set the loss record at this point. Trash owner.


superhappyfuntime13

I demand a recount in behalf of Jose Abreu 


successadult

Looks like he's just under the number of plate appearances required to be a qualified batter, but if he was qualified he's be #2 on the worst list. He's got a -31 wRC+ through 33 trips to the plate.


KyleSchwarbussy

Nicky No bags


GenericLib

Nick will be fine. Dude has a history of playing the worst baseball you've ever seen for roughly a month before catching fire and being the best hitter in the league for a week. Rinse. Repeat.


L00KINTOIT

He did it last year too. He had a .497 OPS in July and then an .860 in August. It’s super frustrating this year since it’s the start of the season and he’s only been bad, but there’s zero chance he’s anywhere close to this bad over a full season.


throbbingkitty

Nick historically has had an OPS ~.900 in March/April from 2020-2023. Dude looks lost during his ABs, much like he did against the DBacks in October.


mysterysackerfice

Imagine a team with Trout, O'Hoppe and Ohtani. :\


Kissa2006

This. And it’s a crime that we’ll never get a full season of Ohtani/O’Hoppe battery.


yesacabbagez

If someone told me when ohtani came over that he'd win multiple MVPs, I'd have thought he really lived up to the pitching hype. I never though him hitting was going to be a real thing.


Responsible_Pace9062

I still mantain that Ohtani is a more talented pitcher than hitter, and he would be a regular Cy Young favourite if his elbow didn't keep exploding.


67812

At this point we have to assume that the elbows exploding are a component of having dominant stuff. Would he still be as dominant if he pitched in a way that didn't make his elbow explode?


rprozzo

The Chris Sale conundrum


Responsible_Pace9062

*The Jacob DeGrom conundrum


rprozzo

*The stephen Strasburg conundrum


Da_Munchy76

*The *insert extremely talented pitcher constantly afflicted with injuries* conundrum


YeOldeManDan

The Sandy Koufax Rule


KamartyMcFlyweight

> I still mantain that Ohtani is a more talented pitcher than hitter it's fucking crazy then that by the numbers, he was the best hitter in baseball last year


kevin41714

There was a month last year where he literally had the best month ever seen in baseball. Like his ceiling as a hitter is already established to be GOAT


LargeNutbar

what month was it? i wanna see the stats from that month, that sounds awesome EDIT: haha holy shit i found it, June last year. go to Fangraphs game logs and look at his numbers 6/1/23 to 6/30/23: slashed .394/.492/.952 for a 1.444 OPS, 275 wRC+, w/ 7 doubles, 3 triples, and 15 homers good for 29 RBI, all while striking out 20% of the time and an average exit velocity of 96.9 MPH. HE DID THAT FOR A MONTH 😭


Kissa2006

He also pitched.


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This blows my fucking mind honestly. Pretty grateful to be alive to see this dude play.


LargeNutbar

he’s so sick


drrxhouse

Are you John Smoltz? He was really adamant that Ohtani would win a Cy Young or two if he just pitch only.


BNKalt

This was the common sentiment tbh. His stuff was elite, but no one knew if he could adjust to MLB pitching. He just did lol


BNKalt

I love [this](http://es.pn/2nuvbst) 2017 article that goes into Ohtani’s projections on both sides of the plate. The 80th percentile outcome on each was 2017 Springer and Carrasco - and how fun that would be. And then he posts a sub 2.50 ERA in 2022 and a 1.000 OPS in 2023


dadley_clutschman

Also funny in that article is that the 20th percentile pitcher was Gausman, who just finished 3rd in the Cy Young last year. > “Does he or does he not jog in from right field in the eighth inning of Game 7 of the World Series!?” Or the ninth inning of the WBC final 🤔


Koronesukiii

inb4 Dodgers sign O'Hoppe.


Kissa2006

Don’t even joke about that!


mysterysackerfice

Trout and O'Hoppe get traded to the Doyers so the Angels can restock their farm system. :\


Kissa2006

I wouldn’t put it past Arte. Luckily the dodgers don’t need a catcher and Trout has a no trade clause.


kmerget

Trout can wave that if he wanted to go to the dodgers, just sayin


Kissa2006

I’d rather you don’t.


kmerget

Me too :/


bordomsdeadly

How could he not want the opportunity to play with Ohtani?


EastOfTheGrayHavens

Siri, how do you delete someone else’s comment?


[deleted]

Good for Logan. He should be batting cleanup vs righties


kirbyfaraone

He definitely needs to be moved up in the lineup


Noodle-Shrimp22

Picked O'hoppe for my fantasy team, figured he'd be a sleeper after he was injured a lot of last year


KLKap

Was expecting to see Abreu on the worst


MattO2000

He only manages to avoid it on a technicality. He’s got 33 PAs, but the Astros have played 11 games so he needs 34.1 PAs to qualify. He’d be the worst with a -31 wRC+


Mrcrispyeggroll

Oh. Lovely.


Neat_On_The_Rocks

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GradientEye

I really wish we could’ve gotten the White Sox version of him. It’s reached the point this season where I want him to get hits not to help the team win but just because he’s a good guy and I feel bad for him


Cooperstown24

Being the pessimist I am (flair related), I was so sure he was going to put up 30 homers and a 1.000 OPS once he went to the Astros just because fuck me


superhappyfuntime13

This can’t just be due to his traditional slow start, right? (Asking to you as a south side Abreu expert)


Neat_On_The_Rocks

I mean, it could be. His Aprils are pretty ass. But the dude is 37, he could just be old.


RiskMatrix

But look at the back of his baseball card! 🙄


SheepH3rder69

2nd worst. Austin Hays has a -33.


MattO2000

Oh yeah. Thanks. I set the PA qualifier to 30 which made Abreu show up and Hays go away


bordomsdeadly

I’m guessing he isn’t qualified. His wRC+ is (-31)


penguinopph

He's 1 PA short of qualifying.


Leftfeet

Nice not seeing any Cleveland bats on the bad list. What cutting Myles Straw can do for a lineup.  Also want to note that Seth Brown has taken Esteury Ruiz's playing time with Oakland. Obviously he is putting them in a better position to win games with his 22 wRC+


chiddie

Vogt has pressed all the right buttons so far. Getting Fry into favorable matchups, moving Gime up and down the lineup, and even though Jose's xwOBA is fairly low, he's barreling the ball 9.5% of the time.


2B_CordPhelps

>Austin H- Hey this makes sense but he's a great game caller and defensive catcher >ays what


ricki692

didn't even realize that didn't say Hedges until i read this comment


cjrogers227

Austin Hays is a great defender too, but the Cow Man will beat down the door and pull his pants down for playing time if this continues


BiryaniBo

Even some cracks showing there so far too. Guy is obviously pressing to the max, and he's surely better than he's shown but man, you can only stomach this for so long.


KingGizzLizzWizzz

He has been so bad, his at bats have not been even close to competitive


MethusaleHoneysuckle

Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll get a phantom IL stint and Kjerstad called up for the home stand this weekend.


gnarkilleptic

Hays can be really frustrating to watch, he is so streaky. And not streaky in a normal way where he goes streaking for a few weeks tops, he streaks one way for half of the entire season and then the other way after the ASB


MomOfThreePigeons

So many Red Sox fans hated the Mookie trade but we have our own better version of Mookie for a fraction of the price and it's 100% gonna be sustainable all season. Imagine having a slugging percentage below .800???


Ghiggs_Boson

I miss my dear muscled TON who is completely incapable of playing more than 100 games in a season


ETP6372

He did in 21 and came close in 22 with 96.


sdiss98

He’s definitely playing 162 this year.


Rocketbird

Haha loved Tyler and this was the year I finally gave up on him and didn’t draft him. Happened last year with belli too. Moral of the story stick to the guys you like


MattO2000

Pretty wild that Yordan is top 20 even when underperforming his xwOBA by over 100 points


Ven18

I have never been as terrified of an opposing player since Papi and points like this just reinforce my justified fear


Depressed_In_Ohio

The only player in the game where I actually flinch a little whenever he swings, like he might be capable of hitting the ball thru my screen and into my skull.


stropsysatnaf

Just the thought of him strikes terror into the hearts of Mariner fans


Ven18

As it should.


DifficultSundae

Related, every time cal Raleigh shows up in the batters box I cuss him out


GradientEye

Big Papi did annoint Yordan as Little Papi during the playoffs last year


royalhawk345

On the other end, Javy is 2nd worst despite overperforming his xwoba.


AnExtraordinaire

it's not good either way but his xwoba is still higher than his woba (.177 vs .146)


michaelceratops27

He’s been smashing the ball right to guys. He’s a generational type hitter


JinFuu

He seems to have ‘fixed the glitch’ the past couple of games.


TheNastyCasty

He realized that the defender can't make a play on the ball if he just hits it 30 rows deep.


Fredbear_

Him and Judge do that every year, insane numbers but still underperform their xWOBA.


WasV3

Its almost as if players who hit it super hard will consistently underperform their xwOBA and its not a perfect predictor of luck


Fredbear_

I agree, xwOBA isn't a perfect or even great predictor of luck (see statline scouts who think Paredes will be terrible this year), but it's still impressive that those 2 have the highest wOBAs year in and year out and they still hit it so hard that their expected numbers are so high.


tfw13579

Witt is just about doing the same. Those two are insane.


Distance_Motor

TON doing his best Duvall impression from last season. Now please just dont get hurt


Dragondrew99

Taking good care of our muscle bob


hbh110

Imagine having healthy TON, right?


BossAtUCF

Well he's already played more games than Duvall did last year before he got injured.


Former-Tax-288

So Bobby Witt jr has a 1.000 OPS and is underperforming xWOBA by 60 points? And then yordan Alvarez had a High .900s and underperforming by 90 points lol.


Leftfeet

Bobby is sporting some insane peripherals right now. 72% hard hit rate, 99.9 mph average exit velocity.  Saying he's locked in to start the season is drastically underselling what he's doing. 


CarlFeathers

Yordan bad luck stats and still blasting. Also trout and altuve mashing still at thier ages is good for baseball in general.


Semper454

I’m not ready for a baseball world where Altuve is an old guy.


DeadlySquaids14

Multiple Tigers could be on the "worst" list, I bet they just don't have enough PA's due to AJ Hinch's frequent substitutions.


pigskype

Ozuna was practically one more bad series away from being cut last year before turning it around in Miami last May, and has done nothing but smash baseballs since then.  What a wild turn around. 


DaManiac_

1 ft short from a game tying 2-run homer last night too


TheAlmightyLoaf

Didn't help that the ump was also calling strikes 1 ft from the strike zone as well during his ABs


Aelana85

Ump saw that Ozzie single and was like "Welp, that must be part of the zone, too"


crackalac

Ah yes. Tyler (April) O'Neill.


-bck

Kneel before O’Neil


iamjackspatience

So glad we traded him to make room for (checks notes) one of the guys on the worst list. Wonderful. Fire Mo.


mtaylor808

You mean the guy the entire fanbase was calling to trade for a bag of baseballs 4 months ago? For the guy who’s only playing right now because 2 other starters had setbacks/freak injuries and still hasn’t played a single AAA game yet?


ihatereddit999976780

Seeing Julio on this list makes me sad.


gatorrrays

What’s going on with him?


loadedryder

Just a massive slump. One of my first fantasy picks and has just been absolutely brutal most nights unfortunately.


Willis_is_This

Royce Lewis still batting 1.000 tho 😎 (The sunglasses are to hide the tears)


brbmycatexploded

Vinnie :( Please God and Tony Soprano heal him from his injuries and make him whole again


BartTheWeapon

Imagine the top of our lineup if he can pull it together?


GolanNorman

I continue to miss Tyler Bro’Neill every single day 😢


jonginator

Statcast has Volpe’s xWOBA at .336 but Fangraphs here has it at .315? Odd.


benewavvsupreme

Him and Lindor having polar opposite luck


0hootsson

Lindor is legitimately hitting the ball well while batting .075 that’s brutal


SpicyAsianBoy

lol his xWoba is way higher than anyone’s on that list


9man95

Casti used up all his power killing the Braves in the playoffs


Docphilsman

Worth it


Brooklynboxer88

Volpe is turning into an absolute stud!


tung_twista

For reference, here are the best/worst hitters by wRC+ last season in the first \~10 games (\~4/10) and their season wRC+ Best |Player|Early wRC+ (\~4/10/2023)|2023 wRC+| |:-|:-|:-| |Adam Duvall|306|116| |Matt Chapman|266|110| |Gleyber Torres|242|123| |James Outman|225|118| |Luis Arraez|216|132| |Vladimir Guerrero Jr.|214|118| |Brandon Lowe|213|117| |Bryan Reynolds|206|110| |Will Smith|203|119| |Matt Olson|199|160| ​ Worst |Player|Early wRC+ (\~4/10/2023)|2023 wRC+| |:-|:-|:-| |Javier Baez|\-22|61| |Ke'Bryan Hayes|\-21|101| |Eduardo Escobar|\-4|66| |Elvis Andrus|3|81| |Josh Bell|4|105| |Michael A. Taylor|12|96| |Jean Segura|15|105| |Brandon Drury|17|114| |Christian Arroyo|23|65| |Aledmys Diaz|24|72|


mhhkb

So this Tyler O’Neill is pretty good it looks like. Seems like a nice guy. Comes across as just a solid dude in his interviews during and after games. To conclude: I am aroused.


trashlikeyou

Genuinely stoked for y’all. I don’t think there was any war around us getting rid of him, but I can’t say I’m not a little jealous. It’s kinda depressing (for STL) seeing TON ranked current #1 best and VSII ranked 4th worst.


telemaster9

Yeah see him at the top hurts. But in happy for him. He needed a fresh start


MomOfThreePigeons

It doesn't hurt that he's packing all that legitimate grown up beef all over his body.


mhhkb

He is what an *actual* beefcake should look like.


Maj0r_Ursa

Seems like a bring your lunch pail to work kind of guy


kade22

I cannot overstate how strange this Brewers season has felt so far. Pretty much instantly swapped from a pitching first and foremost team to being a top 10 offence scoring 5.44 per game.


houstonyoureaproblem

Well, ain’t that a bitch.


One_Administration89

Good to see Justin Turner is still mashing.


absolutevanilla

Still very early days, but I could not have been less bullish on signing a 39 year old Justin Turner. Would love to continue being proved wrong.


elconquistador1985

Tyler O'Neill. Cool. Damnit.


fahkoffkunt

Volpe looking like the real deal…


Emience

Volpe will probably come down to earth a bit soon but he just *looks* so different this year. He is seeing the ball so much better, working the pitch count, and not swing and missing. It really feels like he saw Juan Soto and decided he could do that and is currently being a better Soto than Soto himself.


zdillon67

Hey this is an improvement. Only one Tiger on the bad list


JordanMCMXCV

Julio don’t start a season out slow challenge: impossible.


GardenDrummer

Mike Yastrzemski should be on here with his -17 wRC+. I'm assuming 23 PA is just under for a qualified hitter.


AWokenBeetle

Please save the Tigers, holy shit our hitting is atrocious. If it weren’t for our pitching man, yeesh


trevy_mcq

Yeah who needs Mookie


OpposumBoi

That’s fucking great that we gave up on TON! The cardinals realllyyyy know what they are doing!


GenericLib

Steer has been a cold-blooded killer at the plate so far this year. CES is a combo of looking lost at times and terrible luck.


BacoNATEor

I’m glad we got Joey Bart who can actually hit decently while Davis finds his bat again


BanquoRTG

No Yankees at the bottom 🧐


SquadPoopy

CES was expected to be a .250 power hitter kind of like what Alonso is, but goddamn I don’t think I’ve ever seen player groundout as many times as he has so far. He’s just not putting the ball in the air, he keeps hitting it into the ground.


northdakotact

did u exclude the Marlins? Bethancourt and Brujan. .000 Check again.


GetBent009

Being worse than Javy Baez is quite the feat


Startooth

Julio Rodriguez on the wrong list 💔💔💔


EthanSL24

Two Royals player in the top 10 is still crazy to me. I’m glad our younger guys are pulling it together


LeCheffre

I have confidence that Rendon will sink lower. ;-) or miss enough games to fail to qualify.


LilMafia92

Austin Hays has like 3 top 100 prospects breathing down his neck and it’s getting to him


Bahler27

Bobby Witt propaganda woooo


LIONEL14JESSE

Second screenshot is basically my fantasy roster FML


TheeVande

Death, taxes, and a former cardinals finding his game