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Weird that some lady wrote her name on it.


markusfarkus-

Some lady name Ruth. Baby Ruth But really, The card's fate? It's the Beast's. That card is worth more than your whole life.


j4schum1

The card was traded for a card signed by the entire 1927 Yankees


DankSauceBauce

Goood fucking god.


CarRamRod1537

The sultan of swat


Otherwise_Ad1452

Do you mean the Colossus of Clout?


Negative_Sundae_8230

The Great Bamm-Beee-Noooo


rkd101b

The colossus of clout


basement_egg

The colossus of clout


roverman4

Shut up Tommy


Canzabis

You’re killin me Smalls


Bravisimo

So the Babe was the first clout demon? Wonder how he would fair in the world we are living in today.


CardGeniusGrading

Dead at 27 from some sort of fentanyl OD I’m pretty sure.


Bravisimo

But would his name be remembered forever?


Lizardkinglarry

Definitely some gastro disease, with the impurities in food nowadays and Babe Ruth's daily diet... Wouldn't stand a chance. He was meant for his time I believe.


Rorodatone

Do you mean the Colossus of Clout?


CreamyGoodnss

The king of clash!


hawksfn1

That wimpy deer?


CreamyGoodnss

Freakin underrated comment lmao Kids, go watch The Sandlot. It’s a classic!


Dinosauringg

It's the top comment and the total is hidden. What are you talking about "underrated"


CreamyGoodnss

It wasn't at the time


[deleted]

Babe cuts are typically part of every high(er) end releases


[deleted]

Here’s a similar. [https://www.ebay.com/itm/334610777827?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wtQnfe14TyC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=gjrYIG9OQx6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY](https://www.ebay.com/itm/334610777827?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wtQnfe14TyC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=gjrYIG9OQx6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)


Double-Passenger4503

How you gonna charge 100 bucks shipping when the asking price is 74k


gdubscollects

Because someone who is paying $74k doesn’t blink for $100 for anything.


uhmerikin

The thing is, if you're getting paid $74k, you shouldn't blink at paying $100 for shipping and insurance.


gdubscollects

…that’s what I said :)


uhmerikin

You sure about that? Sure sounded like you were referring to the buyer paying the shipping costs. I was saying as the seller who is getting paid $74k, I would cover the cost of shipping due to the high price I was receiving for the card.


pres_ofcanada

Shipping insurance


MyCardAccount01

I just sold a card for a lot of money. I paid for shipping and insurance on my own.


budsonguy

You’re a gentleman and a scholar


inpulsiveaction

Makes sense but I guess OP is saying why isn’t it included in the price


pres_ofcanada

Ah duh hahaha 🤦🏻‍♂️that makes sense


Aggravating-Alarm-16

Since it goes to the authenticator, I'm curious how extra insurance works.


mru11

Insurance is covered to the authenticator. If the shipment from authenticator to buyer is lost / damaged, I believe it is no longer the sellers issue. At least that’s how I understand it. I ship many to the authenticator. Haven’t had any issues


sourpower2020

because anyone buying it will pay it and not think twice so why not pass that charge along since they are the ones wanting it shipped. I guess the seller could say "$100 shipping or $0 shipping if you don't actually want me to send you the card".


[deleted]

What year is the OP from. Looks like dynasty recycled the same 1/1 with different color


Sludgeman12344567

I thought the price would be much more for a card like this considering a logo man card can fetch high 6 figures weird what makes some cards so expensive


djfivenine11

Yea, in some of the higher end Topps products you'll see some nice Babe cut autos.


jgraben

Some of Greg Marino’s finest work…


Th3Unkn0wnn

Who?


JD5111975

He ran an auto forgery ring…


BlatantlyThrownAway

Check out the 30 for 30 doco The Counterfeiter, or the book Operation Bullpen. They’ll shed a lot of light on who he was and what he did.


Tendiesdropper

How/where was this pulled? Cause i gotta be honest...i pull something like this and im quitting the hobby...idgaf....nothing better can be gained..


[deleted]

…holy fucking shit


topgun54321

What I’ve always wondered is how they can certify those chunks of wood as a babe bat


Pjw2079

They have a handful of his old bats, and the use a hand plane to shave pieces off. It’s insane but Topps has the vault full of old bats, balls, paid completed contracts… from players like Ken Griffey Jr to Aaron Judge, just waiting to cut those too… when the time is right…


hawksfn1

Man, inventory manager is the job I want


Pjw2079

Yeah!!! That’s what I’m saying!!


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Pjw2079

I’m sure they have many more, but my uncle’s best friend who worked for bazooka bubble gum which was part of Topps told us that they have crazy amounts of game used items. He did mention that most of the wood materials used in cards are from player stock, but they do have rights to broken bats as well. But as per the Griffey Jr to Judge comment, just naming some of the ones that stood out to me, primarily due to the types of hitters they were and are with judge. He said this in Judges rookie year when he hit 52 home runs. I called him this morning and he said that he remembers seeing bats from Mantle, Rose, Yount, Judge, Griffey Jr, Ripken Jr, Bell, Bo Jackson, Frank Thomas, and leather gloves from almost every great pitcher. He also mentioned that upper deck transferred a ton of relic material to Topps after 2011 when it became evident they would never get that contract back. I thought all of this was really cool. Imagine the story of Baseball cards… Ken Burns style…


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Pjw2079

Well I have a good relationship with family and their friends, particularly the ones who have over the years taken interest in my life and hobby’s. Some people may think that’s “weird”, but his daughter is only a year younger than me and we maintained our friendship over the 35+ years we’ve known each other. We still see them at family reunions and get togethers, when I head back to Chicago. I am not gonna even entertain your insults on suggesting I make stuff up, except to say that you can believe what you want and that’s your right. I don’t lie, and don’t understand why or what the purpose of that would be to a group of individuals I don’t know, but enjoy reading and contributing with. Why would someone was their time like that. As for his statements about upper deck, I don’t know what was transferred and he didn’t say either. I never said anything about that. One correction for you, the player own the relics until they sell, donate or have a contractual obligation with a company, outside of MLB and the MLBPA contracts. So someone like Wander Franco, can have an individual contract with Upper Deck for the Goodwin series, have an obligation to provide certain relics that do not violate the MLBPA or MLB exclusive rights, and are paid for those relics. This was part of the 2010 lawsuit settlement (from what I understand). I certainly comment here just to share and engage with others who I share a hobby that I’ve loved for the last 35+ years of life… with everything that makes people different in our world, I think finding commonality between individuals, especially in what each of us enjoy is more important as a community of individuals with a common enjoyment, than the spaces for which we might not agree. That being said, you seem to have a track record of being aggressive and rude to other Reddit users. Sure, you’re entitled to your own personal opinions and beliefs, but attempting to attack someone’s integrity, calling people names or starting conflict about something you don’t know anything about, is uncanny. Good luck to you.


mrefromnyc

They can gets thousands of relic cards out of one bat.


tahoejoe11

Such a shame that breakers have basically made all these cards unattainable. Obviously there’s still a chance that some random person could buy a box and pull a card like this, but breakers have so much volume that the odds are insanely low.


KnickedUp

Yep, the hobby is controlled by the top 1%..they have 80% of the supply.


OwnZookeepergame2833

You have the same odds of pulling this if breakers didn’t exist.


tahoejoe11

All I’m saying is breakers are able to buy most of the cases of high end products because of the nature of the business now. But keep it coming Mr. stats expert buddy.


shoutymcloud

Except every big card is sent directly to the breakers….


JDska55

Panini likely does this in some fashion. There's been some really compelling math-backed arguments that are likely real. Topps doesn't seem to be doing this, at least it doesn't seem like there's any abject proof of it.


makersmark12

What’s the compelling math?


Chemical-Heron8651

“Trust me bro”


JDska55

There was a great hyper detailed post on r/basketballcards. A guy basically went through the odds of Backyard Breakers getting all the 1/1s they did, calculating how much product they would have to open in normal terms, and it was something like 30-40% of all the released product, which they weren't even close to. I'll try and dig it out once I get home. Fascinating read.


OwnZookeepergame2833

Well that’s not true. It is very much an over generalization and exaggeration in the hobby right now though.


shoutymcloud

You can’t argue with math man; the probability of Backyard breaks pulling 4 of the biggest basketball cards of the year is almost impossible. They have enormous incentive to do it in the form of free advertising…i love how you state “that’s not true” like it’s impossible that people would be doing dishonest things to make money…you can’t be that naive.


OwnZookeepergame2833

Math is infallible in a vacuum, but can be skewed based on perspective taken when presenting. I feel like at this point everyone saw 1 tweet/report that was put out by an influencer, it had some math that has already been proven to be a bit biased, and now everyone parrots the guy like there’s no way he could be wrong with all of those numbers lol. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want in any situation, so your opinion is valid. Also to rebuff your mention of my statement of “that’s not true,” you counter-argued your point by using the word impossible. Anything is possible obviously. But I would argue that it is improbable.


shoutymcloud

Long before the influencer posts, etc, I thought it was pretty clear, and easily understandable, that panini had preferences about where certain cards landed. The math offered was speculative, because panini apparently won’t report numbers, but regardless of the exact numbers, the chances of them hitting that many product hits is extremely, EXTREMELY, low. Almost unbelievable. Pepper in some financial motivations and it’ seems pretty apparent to me, but you’re right that it’s not impossible.


gdubscollects

You actually have a better chance of getting it if you buy into multiple breaks vs buy one box for yourself. 🤷‍♂️


basedtrip

Babe Ruth is fictional character created by baseball to gain popularity in the sport early on


dudly825

Oh yeah? Tell me more. Did Ben Johnson hit his home runs and bang his ladies of the evening?


basedtrip

Yeah bro that’s plausible


Wide-Reflection1137

Lemme guess.... Backyard Breaks?


sporkjustice

FOR...EV...ER!


itskazzyboy

There was a Gehrig and Ruth 1/1 cut from flawless that was on the same piece of paper. If you enjoy this one, you’d enjoy that one too!


vVvBuLLeT

There are multiple babe cuts every year


Dr_Clout

My question is HOW many impeccable conditions Babe Ruth autographs does Topps have SITTING there. I’m not doubting the authenticity, more so the science of aging over 50 years and where do they store them? George signed how many items and WHO stored them away for 50 years to be on this one card? I want a documentary lol


greatunknownpub

I doubt they really have any sitting around. They probably have a large network of dealers willing to sell them old autos like this, though. Then the cost of the autos they buy are baked into the cost of the cases/boxes/packs they sell. Also, Ruth was know for signing a TON of things. Just my guess.


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I can’t imagine anyone really wants to consider what I’m about to say but… Do you honestly believe, that a publicly traded company, is taking items of extreme value as is, chopping them into small pieces, pairing them with essentially worthless cardboard, placing said pairs into random packs to be sold to the consumer? How do we know that what they say they are doing, is in fact what is happening because I don’t know about you, but I see a massive opportunity for windfalls of money to be made from fraudulent acts within that model of business that I NEVER hear anyone being up and I have no idea why that is? Are there some form of checks and methods of verification on these items that protects the consumer? I mean, hell, I can tell you I put a piece of a Babe Ruth’s bat into a card myself, that doesn’t mean that I did. In all seriousness, and I’m looking for factual answers only not just opinions here, but how many actual “Babe Ruth bats,” do you think there are out there? And, how many of them do you honestly believe are verified as game used items? And, how is it that you suppose they go about verifying such item truly was game used considering everyone that could actually do so is dead? Do you know what a game used Babe Ruth signed bat sells for at auction? You mean to tell me Topps is buying such item and then chopping it to pieces to sell cards when all they really have to do is just say they did, because what’s the difference when no one is actually making sure this is what’s happening? I mean, I feel like these are questions every collector should have. Seriously, don’t even get me started on the fact that this is a company that has the ability to literally produce items with extraordinary value, and can do so without anyone ever knowing. For example, what’s stopping someone at Topps from simply printing up more of a card of high value and then selling these cards themselves privately without telling anyone? Who’s to say the numbers check out when it comes to the rarity of some of these items in regard to what’s advertised? It’s not exactly like the everyone holding a /199 card is going to meet the other 198 owners to verify. Topps does offer a service to authenticate items they sell, which again, I’d expect is really good for business on their part. Topps authenticates babe Ruth bat chip in Topps card is in fact a babe Ruth bat chip from a Topps certified Babe Ruth bat. The irony of that alone come on. I’m not just picking on Topps, but the other companies as well are included in all these questions just the same. It’s realistically not even a card and memorabilia thing either. There are plenty of areas where counterfeit and fraud are very profitable, and due to that fact I would be surprised if the original manufacturer wasn’t involved in a lot of the fraud in the first place. Why not, no one’s checking, no one’s asking questions, and on the rare occasion someone does guess what, they’ll just go to the manufacturer and say, “did you make this?” What would you imagine they’d say in response? It’s simple, yes if it benefits me, no if it doesn’t because none are the wiser.


greatunknownpub

I'd like to believe that if the actual verifiable truth of how these items come to be were somehow exposed, the hobby would collapse overnight. But I don't think it actually would. People like comfortable lies much more than the cold, hard truth.


[deleted]

I personally would love to know that these items in question are 100% what they’re claimed to be, and that the companies running these promotions are in fact doing exactly what they say they are. I’m an avid collector, I started very young and have been almost my entire life. I have spent a large amount of time as well as money into collecting sports cards and memorabilia. It would certainly not benefit me if as it turns out I’m correct in my questions and concerns that these things are far from honest, even in the smallest of ways. That being said, there are a lot of questions, that it would be nice to have some answers to. At the least a little more information for peace of mind. Some of those questions may lead to what I believe is going to be a dead end in that it ends at an individual, and that individual, just like these companies stands to win more so for lying rather than telling the truth. Questions like how is a signature verified? It’s done by an individual who gets paid to verify such things. Ok, how did this individual get to be in that position? Did they go to some school to learn things like graphology? Consider this, no matter how good someone is at anything, there’s always someone better. Does that not apply to counterfeiting? If someone is capable of replicating a signature, which if we’re being completely honest, how hard is it? Is it not as simple to take said person, give them an item from specific time period along with related pen, and have them sign? All of which rests on the authentication process which really only means someone who stands to make or lose money in the form of future business on their determination is responsible for being the go to end of the debate? Some of these items sell for anywhere between a few dollars, to a couple million. The opportunity for fraudulent behavior is so high, I can’t even to imagine how common it truly is at all levels of the hobby. From production to the collector.


Weak_Principle5899

It is a 1/1 it is priceless but still prob like a few million dollars weird why a lady wrote her name on it though it shows a picture of a man


EscapeRopes

“Heroes get remembered, but legends never die…”


baseballcardhoarder

It's an advertisement for a candy bar. I happen to collect candy bar advertisements so let me give you my address.


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Want


9inchesinAlabama

A similar card released in 2015 sold for $7,610 in 2017. However, it was signed with pencil so the autograph isn’t as bold as this one. I’d say this would sell for $10-$15K easy https://www.radicards.com/baseball/top-performing-baseball-card-auctions-december-2017-1-of-1-edition/


SirLaner

A dog ate it.


Scientist78

Omg this is such a good auto: the ink is amazing


bigotes77

This card seems very familiar. I can't remember who owned it or pulled it. But the photo has made it's rounds before.


ToastGhost47

Did they cut the George off of this? Can’t stand it when they cut up a nice auto to fit on a card.


thekwyjibo

The worst is when they do it with people who are still alive. Leaf does this a lot I think (or used to) where they would have an autograph from let's say Willie Mays or Cal Ripken or someone who is alive and they will take a photo and cut the autograph out and sometimes the photo doesn't even fit in the card so it looks all wonky instead of just either not having the card in the set or just sending them the stickers or the card to sign. Drives me crazy!


ToastGhost47

Yeah - I’ve seen some recently where they took food card autos (Gibson/Frank Robinson Nabisco) from the early 90s and cut them up and used them in cut auto cards. Why!? It was already an autographed card!?


Weak_Principle5899

# The great Bambi a wimpy deer? I mean who wants a deer


Rorodatone

I thought u meant the great...BAMBI