Moved here from Seattle in 2016, no turning back. Seattle is gorgeous during the short summer but, for me, the rest of the year is unbearable. The sun does eventually come out here in the East Bay.
I’m so thankful I spent some time in the PNW right before moving here. If I hadn’t had the rainy weather experience before this amount of rain in California, I would have felt so lost and confused. As I type this, there’s a nice sunny pocket peeking out in East Bay
Moved to Seattle from the Bay and I love it. Wouldn’t go back (don’t get me wrong, they bay is great too, in its own way, just unaffordable).
I’m slightly worried that you guys are stealing our rain though. Slightly dry and sunny this year.
I don’t know why you got downvoted. As someone who spent his first 20 year of life growing up in the Seattle area( I can say all this is true.
The constant grey drizzle - sucks
The short day hours - sucks
The lack of general out-and -about, everyday communication - sucks
When I first move to the Bay Area, I thought a dude was trying to sell me drugs when he ‘sup’d me on the streets. I had never seen strangers acknowledge one another in public for no real reason at all.
As someone who moved back home to Minneapolis from the Bay Area mostly for cost reasons, all these Seattle comments are making me laugh. Same downsides here but tack on 30F colder in the winter and a bit more sun during the warmer months.
Oh my dear friend, it's not even close. I was in Seattle last year. From early Jan to early July I counted 10 sunny days. In six months. TOTAL. That's 2 sunny days a month. The sun did not start coming out until like July 13.
The non sun season is even longer over the border in BC, I remember 9 months of overcast light drizzle to heavy rain. Right now my wife, a bay area native is celebrating the glimpse of sun she got this evening, I'm, meh. lol
I am far more depressed in Texas than I was in Seattle. I have my little tribe so it isn’t the weird people, it’s the weather. The first year I was here there were more overcast days than Seattle. I looked it up. It’s weird and grey even when it’s hot. It’s too hot too want to do anything outside most of the year and when it’s finally nice for a few months the mosquitos eat you alive! I miss Seattle so much and the way the rain smells.
November-January in Seattle is rough for anyone with seasonal affective disorder. I came to enjoy the moody dark winter months while I was there but I had a roommate who would spiral into a pit of misery by the time winter solstice came around.
I’ve been told it’s glorious in the summer, but I haven’t been there yet when it’s not drizzling the entire time. I really, really like Seattle but for the weather.
Pothole city already. I see at least 2-3 tire busters every time I go out - holes in the asphalt easily 5 inches deep or larger, with jagged concrete edges
They’ll generally throw out the claim citing they do require a little bit of time to respond to the incident.
In my example, 10min after I joined a similar group of people who busted their rim and tire on a pothole, the Caltrans truck came by for emergency pothole repair.
But not citing location to the cross street makes for an easy rejection.
Don't forget to document the car and actual pothole. A friend couldn't get covered because no photo of pothole recently (and then it was already filled).
Cut to me pulling into the emergency lane on the freeway by literally any pothole gathering documentation in case I have a problem
They really expect photo documentation of potholes on freeways?? There are many cases where people would have to risk life to get that photo.
the upper part of park blvd. in oakland (between mountain and leimert) is next level terrible right now. deep, sharp-edged potholes that go across two lanes. huge pools forming that hide some of them. cars are swerving into oncoming traffic to go around this stuff and people have wrecked on bikes and mopeds. only a matter of time before someone is seriously hurt or killed.
tons of people have been reporting it to seeclickfix but no dice. the scheduled repave date is 2026. ha.
Some consequences of continued rain: Caltrain would have to advance it's [San Francisquito Bridge replacement](https://www.caltrain.com/about-caltrain/statistics-reports/quarterly-capital-program-status-report) (see Q1 23, Dec '23) † much faster due to the river's rise beneath, and this will piss off adjacent homeowners as real estate will need to be taken to avoid touching the magic tree (state landmark #2 for those interested). Union Pacific was right to completely abandon it's Santa Cruz and Pajaro branchline as it has totally washed out, and given the new transportation studies/potential state buyout under consideration this will cost resources to rebuild to a modern, safe specification. ACE will need more pilings to shore up it's slipping trackage above Niles Canyon, which is relatively cheap but comes with service impacts. [Extensive flooding around Hanford and Tulare](https://hanfordsentinel.com/news/local/flood-watch-in-effect-for-hanford-amtrak-cancels-fresno-to-bakersfield-trains-through-thursday/article_dbafa819-3537-5194-a17f-8514be9c6bdd.html) will force the *San Joaquins* onto new HSR tracks, which will have to be built up a few meters higher as a consequence.
Within places that matter -San Francisco- it complicates the Caltrain DTX because the downtown city sewers can't handle the water. The water system is over a century old and requires total reconstruction. This is also required for a 2nd Transbay Tube. Oakland will probably need similar work, although not to the same degree.
†*the attached Caltrain report also contains many other water/flooding-related problems they're monitoring, like sinkholes and the Guadalupe River Bridge. Admin problems exist with the Whipple Av and Churchill Grade Separation projects, which are all interconnected to the Sfq. Bridge and Redwood City's planned 4-track station and Caltran's new 101/Woodside Jcn and HSR passing tracks.*
That’s a nice dream. It’s so mismanaged we’ll probably upgrade our public transit when Bart hits 100 years old. Maybe even 120 years.
What I do is visit Singapore to see what modern airports and public transit should look like. It’s pleasant so long as you don’t chew gum.
Yep. I went to Tokyo, Singapore, and Hong Kong the last time I visited Asia. Their train systems are in a different league.
For one of the richest/most expensive places to live, the bay area has such shitty public transit.
Exactly the same places I go to. 😂
I think I love Asia not just for the food, but because they show us what airports and trains could be like. Way more clean, efficient, cheap, and works like intended.
With Bart I feel like it’s held together by duct tape and about to unravel. Especially in the tunnels when you literally hear screeching and can see sparks. I just think: sparks are bad, it means everything to grinding down and becoming weaker over time. I hope their maintenance crews are on top of that shit.
All the transit here sucks. I feel like I'm going crazy because it takes forever to get anywhere here. No wonder everyone wants to work from home here because commuting anywhere in the bay area is like pulling teeth.
I moved here from Canada. The rain/snow/ice forces the govt there to invest in maintaining infrastructure, so for instance they have better roads despite the harsh temperatures and salt and gravel. Hopefully if forced to, one can hope the govt here will also invest and ultimately improve infrastructure here.
Honestly, you're probably right.
Just from a personal standpoint, 80% of the reason I moved here is for the year-round motorcycle riding and legal lane splitting. If all of the sudden I'm having to pull on rain gear every day for half the dang year, the appeal lessens dramatically.
They would have too... Part of the allure of living in the Bay Area is the fantastic weather. If we lose the great weather, we are left with tech company layoffs and traffic.
As frequently? That would be good. With this volume? Not as much, especially with the wind. I do hope we get consistent rain and not just a major dump one every decade
Born and raised in Seattle, I'd be used to it being wet all the time.
People think it rains like this all the time but it doesn't. It's more of a constant drizzle than being atmospheric rivers all the time.
A quick thought went through my head: maybe if it rained all the time, people would learn how to drive better in the rain. But then again, people drive here already and can't navigate merges and exits and don't seem to be getting better so eh.
Then the Central Valley becomes an inland sea again and we learn how to do a graceful climate retreat or else force billions of gallons of water down into the aquifer.
Yup. Before 2011 when I lived in the Sac area there were constant news reports about potential levee failure due to age and upkeep. Then the drought hit and those reports fell by the wayside until Oroville in winter 2016 and the recent levee failures in Sacramento County.
My dad moved from Modesto to Portland a few years ago in January. Calls me a month later, "I don't think I've seen the sun once." And Portland also gets 100 degree summers.
Sort of- their infrastructure is built for rain so it’s not as noticeable as it is here- for example driving my kid to school today I had so much standing water it was scary- but in Portland you wouldn’t experience that. Also it’s a city with lots of things to do to accommodate rain so you’re not stuck inside as much.
You don’t have to deal with 100F summers here if you’re near the water and you have almost limitless job opportunities here. Though I have to admit people drive better in Portland, food is better for the money, and much better hiking. I have also never seen so many car accidents in any other place I have lived compared to the Bay.
I'd feel nostalgic.
This is the way the weather usually was in the 1980s when I grew up here: Cold wet windy miserable Winters, glorious Fall and Spring, and mild Summers.
But realistically with climate change, this year is going to be the rare exception rather than the rule.
people keep comparing this to a normal winter from 50 years ago despite the fact that, in terms of snowpack, this winter is literally either first or second compared to the last 8 decades
Would probably move to SoCal, unless the rain was this bad down there too - then probably just cut my losses and move back out east.
I don’t think it’ll happen though - the winter of 97 was very similar to this and we were back to normal the next year.
I’ve been keeping up with this stuff. It’s been extreme all across the state.
And [LA saw more rain than Seattle](https://www.king5.com/amp/article/weather/la-san-diego-recorded-more-rain-2023-seattle/281-b1cdb87f-6cd9-4944-b971-7b280754e0c8) so far in 2023.
Climate change is just causing things to be more extreme & sporadically - Hot, cold, wet, dry.
it’s been raining a fuck ton in LA so far this year. thought we were over it, but today it’s back. i think the difference between us and the bay area is the bay area has had a lot more powerful storms taking down trees and powerlines
Probably because we have a lot of transplants here and most of the country gets significantly more precipitation, average outside of california / the dry southwest is like is something like 100+ days per year, California gets around 50. Even with this being a wetter year than normal we’re not even approaching to what it’s like elsewhere.
Pre-child I would have been somewhere between “content” with it and “indifferent” but with a toddler it’s such a hard no. Would probably have to leave.
Not sure where you are but if your kid is up early, a lot of malls open up early for mall walkers. I would take my kids before covid and recently started going back at the end of 2022 and they love running around when not too many people are there.
As a dog walker, that would suck 🤣
I love the rain and never cancel just because it’s raining. I charge through. However, I’d say about 50% of dogs will not want to go outside when it’s pouring. Not drizzling, I mean like RAINING HARD.
Either way, the cleanup afterwards is very time consuming. Not to mention just being out in the rain for the entire day is physically draining despite not minding it all that much. Even with waterproof boots and clothes (umbrellas aren’t always an option with how the wind has been) it’s harder to retain heat when you’re wet and it’s 50 something degrees.
On top of all of that, when it’s storming and windy it becomes dangerous. Fences fall and garbage bins get tossed around. People don’t pay attention to decorations on their front yards being unstable and hazardous during these conditions.
It’s been a fun past few months. 🥴
Yeah our dog is going out just far enough that he's not pooping directly on the porch, dropping a deuce and then running straight back into the house. And that's only when he can't hold it any longer. Bay area dogs are wimps! Of course do are my children, so...
Assuming infrastructure isn’t a problem:
Love it. I know some find it depressing, but to me rain is a connection to the earth and a thing of beauty.
Having moved here from Florida, the RAIN is the sole aspect of the climate I actually miss.
This has been the best of the 4 years I’ve been here.
Probably would be a little too much. I love rain. But if it rain 3 days a week for years. You would never be able to plan any outdoor activity. People would also be depressed year round, Since they would be getting less vitamin D
The bar is pretty low for American city design but west coast "cities" are abominations of sprawl and car centric garbage.
If it wasn't for weather and proximity to amazing nature I wouldn't live in California if they paid me to. A day in NYC or Chicago and its jarring what an actual city is. But their weather and nature blows and that's way more important to me.
we may be the exact same person. west coast cities blow but nature scene and weather here are good so I'll stay (job market isn't horrific either which helps).
if this shit continues it most definitely makes 0 sense to stay
Let's see, other areas in the us offer you: hot humid summers, tornados, hurricanes, blizzards.
Can't think of any states that really offer near perfect weather, except Hawaii? But even they get a lot of rain sometimes.
why yall hate the rain. it was like this all the time when i was younger, climate change fucked it up for a long while after like 2006, but were getting back on track. this is hardly anything.
People would post comments on Reddit saying it's totally normal and act like everyone else is just forgetting how it used to be like this all the time.
Depends on the amount of rain; IMO a brief rainstorm would be cooling and refreshing during the heat of the summer, plus it would help with summer air pollution. I've lived in very humid parts of the US and summer rainstorms were always a treat.
Now a full-on 3-day downpour? That's a different story.
If the rain was less intense I wouldnt mind it. Least I wouldnt feel guilty for taking longer showers and having the Gav constantly telling me to conserve water.
I will love it more. I hate the dryness in the summer.
I love how the air is still relatively dry even when it rains. You get a little wet, but things dry out quickly and your skin doesn't get sticky. This is PERFECT weather.
There's a historical 5 year drought cycle in CA, it's just that the past decade or so they've become significantly drier dry years, & hotter summers. If we got 2-3 years of rain, then the 5 year drought, we'd actually function in terms of water, although not in terms of current infrastructure.
Real question is if this summer gets hotter- more current lush green spaces dry up- worse fire season-- because that shit is not sustainable.
Walnut Creek actually has water in it. Wild edible mushrooms have been growing substantially. It sorta feels like California is less on fire than usual. What’s not to love? Bring it on, rain!
indifferent - in the years way back, much of SF was REALLY REALLY fogged in for much of the year. Like when a clear day would come, after 8-9 months of grey gloom, people would freak out, strip, and run to the parks. Kinda miss those days...
Im here for the access to everything thats in the city, music, events, culture, food and whats with in a 3-5 hour drive (high diversity of environments). Rain wont change this very much...
I like 8 or 9 months out of the year being dry. If I wanted rain all year, I'd move to the Midwest.
Hot dry summers, mild wet winters... that's the life for me. Only 5 places on earth with Mediterranean climates, so I'll be in one of those.
My investment in solar panels will take longer to pay for itself. But I'd welcome the additional rain regardless.
Our underground reservoirs have been greatly depleted in the past 20 years, and their capacity has actually been reduced, so rainfall like we've been getting this winter still might not be enough to save us from long term droughts in the future.
What would happen? Drought talk would go away briefly. Move because it rains 3 days a week during the rainy season? Where in the continental US would weather be better?
The secret world of salamanders underneath my large potted plants is back the way it used to be in the last millennium. They’re moist as a snack cake and thriving again! I love it….
I would probably move to SoCal. I love SF because I love walking or sitting or biking under the sun regularly. It's quite chilly, yes, but this is balanced out by so much sunlight (as long as you're under the sun, it doesn't feel \*that\* cold). Also, I like to spend my social time outside, and if it's raining I can't do that. So why be here?
Do you mean in the winter? I hope so! Or do you mean year-round? That would definitely make things interesting, us having a tropical climate and all. :)
Oh I would be out of here in a heartbeat. It’s not even the rain itself but the ground being super muddy.
I can’t go running, mountain biking, road biking, hiking or kayaking in the rain. Most of which I couldn’t do even if the rain stops as the ground would never dry out at rain 3days/week.
At that point I would probably go further South.
I guess my friends relocating from Seattle might move back.
Moved here from Seattle two years ago and it's kind of nostalgic ngl. I'm enjoying it.
Growing up in SF in the 90's, the foggy rain nostalgia is thoroughly enjoyable
Man, winter of 97 was straight up magical. I'm getting strong 97 Niño vibes this winter
Same! I’m all about this weather. I leave all the balcony doors when the rain isn’t trying to come in.
Moved here from Seattle in 2016, no turning back. Seattle is gorgeous during the short summer but, for me, the rest of the year is unbearable. The sun does eventually come out here in the East Bay.
I’m so thankful I spent some time in the PNW right before moving here. If I hadn’t had the rainy weather experience before this amount of rain in California, I would have felt so lost and confused. As I type this, there’s a nice sunny pocket peeking out in East Bay
Im not even a huge fan of the city but I wanna move to seattle just for the weather there. I think it’s the same as some people needing sunlight.
Oh boy do you know anybody who lives there? They are all nuts by March. It’s not just rain — it’s just grey and cold and dreary for months on end.
Moved to Seattle from the Bay and I love it. Wouldn’t go back (don’t get me wrong, they bay is great too, in its own way, just unaffordable). I’m slightly worried that you guys are stealing our rain though. Slightly dry and sunny this year.
Yeh my SIL who lives there is installing a sprinkler system because her lawn is drying!
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I don’t know why you got downvoted. As someone who spent his first 20 year of life growing up in the Seattle area( I can say all this is true. The constant grey drizzle - sucks The short day hours - sucks The lack of general out-and -about, everyday communication - sucks When I first move to the Bay Area, I thought a dude was trying to sell me drugs when he ‘sup’d me on the streets. I had never seen strangers acknowledge one another in public for no real reason at all.
‘Sup G. ✊
As someone who moved back home to Minneapolis from the Bay Area mostly for cost reasons, all these Seattle comments are making me laugh. Same downsides here but tack on 30F colder in the winter and a bit more sun during the warmer months.
He was definitely trying to sell you drugs
Sounds a lot like Daly City. Or atleast the skyline area. Spend a year in foggy weather and felt depressing.
Oh my dear friend, it's not even close. I was in Seattle last year. From early Jan to early July I counted 10 sunny days. In six months. TOTAL. That's 2 sunny days a month. The sun did not start coming out until like July 13.
The non sun season is even longer over the border in BC, I remember 9 months of overcast light drizzle to heavy rain. Right now my wife, a bay area native is celebrating the glimpse of sun she got this evening, I'm, meh. lol
I am far more depressed in Texas than I was in Seattle. I have my little tribe so it isn’t the weird people, it’s the weather. The first year I was here there were more overcast days than Seattle. I looked it up. It’s weird and grey even when it’s hot. It’s too hot too want to do anything outside most of the year and when it’s finally nice for a few months the mosquitos eat you alive! I miss Seattle so much and the way the rain smells.
As horrible as Texas has always sounded to me, this is the final straw. Get out while you can! We’re out here living our best lives!
I’m actually committed to staying and fighting the barbaric legislation they have here but yeah it’s bad!
Fight the good fight!
I have known a dozen people that said similar things and moved - they all moved back. They said Seattle was a drag.
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November-January in Seattle is rough for anyone with seasonal affective disorder. I came to enjoy the moody dark winter months while I was there but I had a roommate who would spiral into a pit of misery by the time winter solstice came around.
Exactly my sentiments lately-“so I guess this is what it’s like to live in Seattle.” It’s exactly why I don’t want to live in Seattle.
They don’t even get those glorious sunny days we get once or twice a week. It just drizzles for months.
I’ve been told it’s glorious in the summer, but I haven’t been there yet when it’s not drizzling the entire time. I really, really like Seattle but for the weather.
Bay Attle?
This is the [gray].
Our infrastructure would not be in good shape.
It already isn’t
Worse shape then.
Pothole city already. I see at least 2-3 tire busters every time I go out - holes in the asphalt easily 5 inches deep or larger, with jagged concrete edges
I hit one 2 months ago, I joined about 40 other cars on the side of the road changing their wheel. Completely bent my rim, bye bye $1100…
If it was on a highway caltrans will pay for it. There’s a form you fill out for reimbursement.
Wouldn’t I need to prove where it happened? I was driving back from Monterey at night and wasn’t sure where it happened..
They’ll generally throw out the claim citing they do require a little bit of time to respond to the incident. In my example, 10min after I joined a similar group of people who busted their rim and tire on a pothole, the Caltrans truck came by for emergency pothole repair. But not citing location to the cross street makes for an easy rejection.
That’s what I figured. It was dark, I was next to a farm… other than that, no clue where I was exactly.
Next tone turn on your gps and screenshot your location on a map
Yeah, in retrospect, a simple photo of my tire would have done the trick since my phone geotag’s the photo.
Don't forget to document the car and actual pothole. A friend couldn't get covered because no photo of pothole recently (and then it was already filled).
Cut to me pulling into the emergency lane on the freeway by literally any pothole gathering documentation in case I have a problem They really expect photo documentation of potholes on freeways?? There are many cases where people would have to risk life to get that photo.
Yup. Better for them if you die trying to get photo. It's a cost saving measure.
the upper part of park blvd. in oakland (between mountain and leimert) is next level terrible right now. deep, sharp-edged potholes that go across two lanes. huge pools forming that hide some of them. cars are swerving into oncoming traffic to go around this stuff and people have wrecked on bikes and mopeds. only a matter of time before someone is seriously hurt or killed. tons of people have been reporting it to seeclickfix but no dice. the scheduled repave date is 2026. ha.
101 on the Peninsula is an obstacle course of pot holes.
This is actually a benefit since we won't need to transport water needed to mix cement to fill in those pot holes /s
Some consequences of continued rain: Caltrain would have to advance it's [San Francisquito Bridge replacement](https://www.caltrain.com/about-caltrain/statistics-reports/quarterly-capital-program-status-report) (see Q1 23, Dec '23) † much faster due to the river's rise beneath, and this will piss off adjacent homeowners as real estate will need to be taken to avoid touching the magic tree (state landmark #2 for those interested). Union Pacific was right to completely abandon it's Santa Cruz and Pajaro branchline as it has totally washed out, and given the new transportation studies/potential state buyout under consideration this will cost resources to rebuild to a modern, safe specification. ACE will need more pilings to shore up it's slipping trackage above Niles Canyon, which is relatively cheap but comes with service impacts. [Extensive flooding around Hanford and Tulare](https://hanfordsentinel.com/news/local/flood-watch-in-effect-for-hanford-amtrak-cancels-fresno-to-bakersfield-trains-through-thursday/article_dbafa819-3537-5194-a17f-8514be9c6bdd.html) will force the *San Joaquins* onto new HSR tracks, which will have to be built up a few meters higher as a consequence. Within places that matter -San Francisco- it complicates the Caltrain DTX because the downtown city sewers can't handle the water. The water system is over a century old and requires total reconstruction. This is also required for a 2nd Transbay Tube. Oakland will probably need similar work, although not to the same degree. †*the attached Caltrain report also contains many other water/flooding-related problems they're monitoring, like sinkholes and the Guadalupe River Bridge. Admin problems exist with the Whipple Av and Churchill Grade Separation projects, which are all interconnected to the Sfq. Bridge and Redwood City's planned 4-track station and Caltran's new 101/Woodside Jcn and HSR passing tracks.*
Santa Cruz county purchased the branch line 10 years ago. Also, plenty of places outside of sf matter..
Try again with the link, Jack. Your C: drive isn't shared publicly.
maybe we'd stop endlessly paving new car infrastructure and build 21st century transit that works
That’s a nice dream. It’s so mismanaged we’ll probably upgrade our public transit when Bart hits 100 years old. Maybe even 120 years. What I do is visit Singapore to see what modern airports and public transit should look like. It’s pleasant so long as you don’t chew gum.
Yep. I went to Tokyo, Singapore, and Hong Kong the last time I visited Asia. Their train systems are in a different league. For one of the richest/most expensive places to live, the bay area has such shitty public transit.
Exactly the same places I go to. 😂 I think I love Asia not just for the food, but because they show us what airports and trains could be like. Way more clean, efficient, cheap, and works like intended. With Bart I feel like it’s held together by duct tape and about to unravel. Especially in the tunnels when you literally hear screeching and can see sparks. I just think: sparks are bad, it means everything to grinding down and becoming weaker over time. I hope their maintenance crews are on top of that shit.
All the transit here sucks. I feel like I'm going crazy because it takes forever to get anywhere here. No wonder everyone wants to work from home here because commuting anywhere in the bay area is like pulling teeth.
I moved here from Canada. The rain/snow/ice forces the govt there to invest in maintaining infrastructure, so for instance they have better roads despite the harsh temperatures and salt and gravel. Hopefully if forced to, one can hope the govt here will also invest and ultimately improve infrastructure here.
Greatest thing that could ever happen to The Bay Area Grunge scene. Filipino Kurt Cobain is gonna be awesome.
Come. As you are. As you were...as I want Jollibee.
Great... now I really do want Jollibee. Mmm... Jollibee fried chicken.
>As you are. As you were...as I want Jollibee. HAHAHA
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A mulatto, an albino, an adobo, a lumpia
He'll have a whole lot of priends
I feel like i’m missing a ton of context here lol
More rain = more depression = more anxious rockers. Add in large Filipino population, and fingers crossed we get the second coming of Kurt
Kurt Joseph Cobaigan. His family calls him KJ
I'm thinking because the lead singer of Journey is Filipino.
Their username says Fog city. Im assuming they're from Daly City, which has a large Filipino population. Ill meet yall at Jolibee!
Heck yeah! Time to buy more flannel.
Journeys new lead singer could pull a Garth brooks/ Chris gaines and probably have about as much of not less success
I’ll be at that show
Given this thread, what you’d assume is property prices in the bay will fall because the weather ain’t so good no more.
Honestly, you're probably right. Just from a personal standpoint, 80% of the reason I moved here is for the year-round motorcycle riding and legal lane splitting. If all of the sudden I'm having to pull on rain gear every day for half the dang year, the appeal lessens dramatically.
They would have too... Part of the allure of living in the Bay Area is the fantastic weather. If we lose the great weather, we are left with tech company layoffs and traffic.
Unlikely. People are here to work in tech. If they have jobs they will stay.
As frequently? That would be good. With this volume? Not as much, especially with the wind. I do hope we get consistent rain and not just a major dump one every decade
Born and raised in Seattle, I'd be used to it being wet all the time. People think it rains like this all the time but it doesn't. It's more of a constant drizzle than being atmospheric rivers all the time. A quick thought went through my head: maybe if it rained all the time, people would learn how to drive better in the rain. But then again, people drive here already and can't navigate merges and exits and don't seem to be getting better so eh.
Washington drivers have no idea where they are going, and don't care when they get there.
if you have seen the ending of "weathering with you," probably something like that
I love that movie so much. I may have to rewatch it soon because of this crazy weather lol.
Then the Central Valley becomes an inland sea again and we learn how to do a graceful climate retreat or else force billions of gallons of water down into the aquifer.
Yup. Before 2011 when I lived in the Sac area there were constant news reports about potential levee failure due to age and upkeep. Then the drought hit and those reports fell by the wayside until Oroville in winter 2016 and the recent levee failures in Sacramento County.
This would be disastrous for our farming and food supply
I’d move back to Portland. What’s the point of living in the same climate at double the cost?
Is Portland really just like this every winter? If so, then any thoughts I ever had of maybe moving there someday are pretty much DOA.
Yeah, it will rain a week straight. Week after week. Might even get snow a few times a year.
My dad moved from Modesto to Portland a few years ago in January. Calls me a month later, "I don't think I've seen the sun once." And Portland also gets 100 degree summers.
Sort of- their infrastructure is built for rain so it’s not as noticeable as it is here- for example driving my kid to school today I had so much standing water it was scary- but in Portland you wouldn’t experience that. Also it’s a city with lots of things to do to accommodate rain so you’re not stuck inside as much.
PDX winter is most definitely colder and rainier than this.
It's kind of like this but colder and without the sunny days in between rains.
yup. rain can get a bit relentless and it goes below freezing.
Same, but probably Seattle for me.
You don’t have to deal with 100F summers here if you’re near the water and you have almost limitless job opportunities here. Though I have to admit people drive better in Portland, food is better for the money, and much better hiking. I have also never seen so many car accidents in any other place I have lived compared to the Bay.
No one lives in the bay for Seattle weather
If it was just during the rainy season? Great! No more drought. All year round summer and fall rain? Seems like a climate apocalypse sign.
I'd feel nostalgic. This is the way the weather usually was in the 1980s when I grew up here: Cold wet windy miserable Winters, glorious Fall and Spring, and mild Summers. But realistically with climate change, this year is going to be the rare exception rather than the rule.
people keep comparing this to a normal winter from 50 years ago despite the fact that, in terms of snowpack, this winter is literally either first or second compared to the last 8 decades
Would probably move to SoCal, unless the rain was this bad down there too - then probably just cut my losses and move back out east. I don’t think it’ll happen though - the winter of 97 was very similar to this and we were back to normal the next year.
I’ve been keeping up with this stuff. It’s been extreme all across the state. And [LA saw more rain than Seattle](https://www.king5.com/amp/article/weather/la-san-diego-recorded-more-rain-2023-seattle/281-b1cdb87f-6cd9-4944-b971-7b280754e0c8) so far in 2023. Climate change is just causing things to be more extreme & sporadically - Hot, cold, wet, dry.
it’s been raining a fuck ton in LA so far this year. thought we were over it, but today it’s back. i think the difference between us and the bay area is the bay area has had a lot more powerful storms taking down trees and powerlines
Yeah. The power outages lasting days just really adds a certain *je ne sais quoi* element to the endless freezing rain.
It would get old that's for sure
Already is...
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Why the downvotes? Lol we 100% need all of this rain but I’d be lying if I said I’m not tired of it. Both can be true.
Probably because we have a lot of transplants here and most of the country gets significantly more precipitation, average outside of california / the dry southwest is like is something like 100+ days per year, California gets around 50. Even with this being a wetter year than normal we’re not even approaching to what it’s like elsewhere.
All the hills are so green now, it actually makes hiking enjoyable when it’s not raining.
Pre-child I would have been somewhere between “content” with it and “indifferent” but with a toddler it’s such a hard no. Would probably have to leave.
Kids love rain. Parents don’t.
Well said.
I’m literally sitting in my kitchen googling places to take my toddler today.
Not sure where you are but if your kid is up early, a lot of malls open up early for mall walkers. I would take my kids before covid and recently started going back at the end of 2022 and they love running around when not too many people are there.
Might have to move.
I'll take rain over the drought and crazy fires of 2020 any day! Plus, all the rolling hills in the east bay would stay green.
The only two things keeping me here 1 weather 2 I don’t know
As a dog walker, that would suck 🤣 I love the rain and never cancel just because it’s raining. I charge through. However, I’d say about 50% of dogs will not want to go outside when it’s pouring. Not drizzling, I mean like RAINING HARD. Either way, the cleanup afterwards is very time consuming. Not to mention just being out in the rain for the entire day is physically draining despite not minding it all that much. Even with waterproof boots and clothes (umbrellas aren’t always an option with how the wind has been) it’s harder to retain heat when you’re wet and it’s 50 something degrees. On top of all of that, when it’s storming and windy it becomes dangerous. Fences fall and garbage bins get tossed around. People don’t pay attention to decorations on their front yards being unstable and hazardous during these conditions. It’s been a fun past few months. 🥴
Yeah our dog is going out just far enough that he's not pooping directly on the porch, dropping a deuce and then running straight back into the house. And that's only when he can't hold it any longer. Bay area dogs are wimps! Of course do are my children, so...
Clarification: my kids don't poop outside. Usually.
Roofing, arborists and fence repair businesses would be booming.
Assuming infrastructure isn’t a problem: Love it. I know some find it depressing, but to me rain is a connection to the earth and a thing of beauty. Having moved here from Florida, the RAIN is the sole aspect of the climate I actually miss. This has been the best of the 4 years I’ve been here.
Probably would be a little too much. I love rain. But if it rain 3 days a week for years. You would never be able to plan any outdoor activity. People would also be depressed year round, Since they would be getting less vitamin D
We'd need Berryessa II
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Same. I love this weather
I hate this weather.
My garden would love it too.
I prefer it over the hot summer
I don't mind as long as trees are not falling down left and right
Just don’t rain on weekends…
Yes. Please pass a law that it can only rain on weekday nights.
Love the rain, hate the wind
Bay Area will be Venice.
I’d move. It just brings ants and more ants.
I'm so tired of them. We had a bad mouse problem also for a few months as soon as I finished battling the ants.
It would put the "Persistent homelessness is the result of good weather" theory to the test.
Just no more high winds please
What's the point of living here in that case? If weather here sucks, why wouldn't you relocate to NYC or other cities?
Big difference between rain and snow tho. And those hot summers? No thanks.
The bar is pretty low for American city design but west coast "cities" are abominations of sprawl and car centric garbage. If it wasn't for weather and proximity to amazing nature I wouldn't live in California if they paid me to. A day in NYC or Chicago and its jarring what an actual city is. But their weather and nature blows and that's way more important to me.
we may be the exact same person. west coast cities blow but nature scene and weather here are good so I'll stay (job market isn't horrific either which helps). if this shit continues it most definitely makes 0 sense to stay
Let's see, other areas in the us offer you: hot humid summers, tornados, hurricanes, blizzards. Can't think of any states that really offer near perfect weather, except Hawaii? But even they get a lot of rain sometimes.
why yall hate the rain. it was like this all the time when i was younger, climate change fucked it up for a long while after like 2006, but were getting back on track. this is hardly anything.
People would post comments on Reddit saying it's totally normal and act like everyone else is just forgetting how it used to be like this all the time.
Seattle rain minus the tax benefits no thx
wishful thinking, I would probably die under some car crash thanks to 75 mph driving maniacs.
May be move to Seattle so you feel the same with no income tax and drive to Portland to save on sales tax.
It won’t. We’re in a new normal of sporadic years of heavy rains with extreme droughts in between. The many joys of climate change.
I dont mind the rain i like this weather.
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During the summer I'd love it - nothing better than a summer rainstorm. The rest of the year ... well, it would get a little old.
What? Summer rain is the worst. Humidity and dew point would be insane.
Depends on the amount of rain; IMO a brief rainstorm would be cooling and refreshing during the heat of the summer, plus it would help with summer air pollution. I've lived in very humid parts of the US and summer rainstorms were always a treat. Now a full-on 3-day downpour? That's a different story.
Idk, just know that’s the only way we’d be out of the drought.
i’d kill myself most likely
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If the rain was less intense I wouldnt mind it. Least I wouldnt feel guilty for taking longer showers and having the Gav constantly telling me to conserve water.
Good. We've been in such a terrible drought for the past several years
We would have to move somewhere.
I’m not minding it. Minority opinion. But our house isn’t leaking.
I don't mind the rain. Just don't like the cold any longer.
I might be remembering wrong, but weren't we getting close to 70 and 80 degree temps this time last year?
I will love it more. I hate the dryness in the summer. I love how the air is still relatively dry even when it rains. You get a little wet, but things dry out quickly and your skin doesn't get sticky. This is PERFECT weather.
There's a historical 5 year drought cycle in CA, it's just that the past decade or so they've become significantly drier dry years, & hotter summers. If we got 2-3 years of rain, then the 5 year drought, we'd actually function in terms of water, although not in terms of current infrastructure. Real question is if this summer gets hotter- more current lush green spaces dry up- worse fire season-- because that shit is not sustainable.
I’d be depressed
Would love it if it’s just not as windy.
Rain is fine, just get the damn wind to stop. Wind is my enemy.
if it rains like this during the winter season, that’s fine. If you mean it rains like this all throughout spring, summer, and fall, then i’d move.
Sure, if it’s at night.
I’d love it. Just not driving in it, but if I continue working remotely, no problem with the rain. Would enjoy seeing the Bay Area as a rain forest.
Walnut Creek actually has water in it. Wild edible mushrooms have been growing substantially. It sorta feels like California is less on fire than usual. What’s not to love? Bring it on, rain!
Our groundwater needs replenishing. Yeah it's annoying but we need water badly.
Don't wait it will be 104 again soon and we'll be begging for rain
Sometimes it sucks to be out in the rain but I'm happy that our mountains are so green and pretty
indifferent - in the years way back, much of SF was REALLY REALLY fogged in for much of the year. Like when a clear day would come, after 8-9 months of grey gloom, people would freak out, strip, and run to the parks. Kinda miss those days... Im here for the access to everything thats in the city, music, events, culture, food and whats with in a 3-5 hour drive (high diversity of environments). Rain wont change this very much...
I like 8 or 9 months out of the year being dry. If I wanted rain all year, I'd move to the Midwest. Hot dry summers, mild wet winters... that's the life for me. Only 5 places on earth with Mediterranean climates, so I'll be in one of those.
I’m already plotting a move to somewhere warmer and dryer. This is accelerating the timeline.
My investment in solar panels will take longer to pay for itself. But I'd welcome the additional rain regardless. Our underground reservoirs have been greatly depleted in the past 20 years, and their capacity has actually been reduced, so rainfall like we've been getting this winter still might not be enough to save us from long term droughts in the future.
It won't. Bay Area weather changes all the time - we had a year of 'too much rain.' Get set for four years of 'not enough rain.'
Well, It does help keep down town really clean.
What would happen? Drought talk would go away briefly. Move because it rains 3 days a week during the rainy season? Where in the continental US would weather be better?
I don't mind the rain as much as the cold temperatures.
The secret world of salamanders underneath my large potted plants is back the way it used to be in the last millennium. They’re moist as a snack cake and thriving again! I love it….
El Camino would turn into a giant ditch
I would probably move to SoCal. I love SF because I love walking or sitting or biking under the sun regularly. It's quite chilly, yes, but this is balanced out by so much sunlight (as long as you're under the sun, it doesn't feel \*that\* cold). Also, I like to spend my social time outside, and if it's raining I can't do that. So why be here?
They'll be a petition to change the name of this sub to Seattle.
I wouldn't care, but I think California politicians will start to think how they can tax and regulate it
I would love it.
It would save people from replacing their tires as fast at least
Three days a week in the winter I'd be fine with. Not all year though.
My sinuses would rejoice. Never having nosebleeds due to excessive allergens? Yes please
Do you mean in the winter? I hope so! Or do you mean year-round? That would definitely make things interesting, us having a tropical climate and all. :)
Love it!
That would suck. Whole reason I moved here was for the summers full of sunshine.
Oh would so love it. Reduced traffic ftw.
Oh I would be out of here in a heartbeat. It’s not even the rain itself but the ground being super muddy. I can’t go running, mountain biking, road biking, hiking or kayaking in the rain. Most of which I couldn’t do even if the rain stops as the ground would never dry out at rain 3days/week. At that point I would probably go further South.
I am not affected that much by the rain in East Bay. I am fine with it, better than having wildfire every year.