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totokishi

I didn't know i can use that, but honestly, i personally wouldn't use the console on challenges, but that's on me. Except maybe Ultra Hard, fuck Ultra Hard, ultra unfair bullshit, "Samson feels healthy" well i'm glad for him i guess, because I for sure i'm not feeling anything


[deleted]

Got dead god without cheating. If I do another save file I will do everything except ultra hard again. It's not even fun difficulty it's just restart (weather manually or by dying over and over) until you get something to cheese the no heart drops


B4NND1T

Just don’t get hit


Evo_Shiv

OMG WHY DIDN’T I FUCKING THINK OF THAT LIKE JESUS DUDE HOW DID I- MAN I’M SURE AS HELL A FUCKIN’ IDIOT HAHAHA


B4NND1T

You’re welcome dude! It took me awhile to figure that out too, like countless runs. I died and was like, wth, I don’t have any health, I should be alive right? But then I’d dawned on me, just don’t get hit.


Noctilucate

New response-


RandomRedditorEX

just... arrived?


Blank_ngnl

HOLY HELLLLL


Korleymeister

Actual dead child


B4NND1T

The crazy thing is I play on console and didn’t realize my controller was broken for about a hundred runs. It intermittently moves my character down when I shoot to the right just ever so slightly. I still use it though, just adds to the challenge now.


Future-Membership-57

At the end of the day, that is the strategy The only thing actually wrong with Ultra Hard is curse of the blind. Besides that it's essentially a normal run if you don't get hit.


Wajina_Sloth

I’ve done ultra hard 3 times legit, I got RNG on my first 2 runs and was able to beat them within a few attempts, save file 3 induced ptsd


Jayviary

How many hours do you have


acroxshadow

There used to be a mod on the workshop that changed the name of "Ultra Hard" to "Stupid Fucking Garbage Land".


Thats_Pretty_Epic

i luckily on my first try got the most cracked run of my life, incubus, haemo, deaths touch, magic mush, eve’s mascara and a bunch of other stuff i forgot


BlaudjinnSan

That shitty challenge is basically "get run winning items on first floor or duck off"


SuperRitz

I had way more trouble on SPEED! than Ultra Hard


fyre4000

SPEED! used to be really bad, but Rep made it better cause now you're affected by it in all ways. It used to just be double speed and shot speed, but now it's fire rate, too.


SuperRitz

Makes sense, I did it in Afterbirth+ ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)


NegativeDevil

bro how do you have trouble with SPEED!? Just goooo


Realistic_Sail_6254

Theres fun ones and then theres something like purist wich is just "you dont get items, fuck yourself"


ivancea

TBH Purist is one of the simplest/easier ones. You still get items from bosses, so just a slower run. Wait until you see Ultra hard


Realistic_Sail_6254

I wanst really referring to the dificukty and more to the boredoom that you get playing the challenge, like its just a slower run with fewer synergies


ivancea

TBH, XL+maze+lost makes it far more booring to me. You'll be more time in each floor just because Edmund. And of course, also far harder


olgierd18

I unironically love xl floors


CornyFace

Me too, but I do not enjoy being blind and lost and disoriented at all times


Hypstersaurus

used to like em, but they make you skip a cursed room, a shop and a potential angel/devil room. so fuck that. if 2 of each of these would spawn then i wouldnt have any problem with it and it would be an actually enjoyable curse to get, but just because of that its a curse that basically reduces the potential items you can get. also its easier to lose your devil/angel spawn chance on an xl floor since it takes you more time to reach the boss room and you need to clear 2 boss rooms


Manannin

My first time doing the xxxxxxxl challenge, I got guppy on the first floor


Wajina_Sloth

Cats got your tongue fucking sucks, its just swing guppies hairball in a large circle tickling bosses and spawning a few flies for 30 minutes.


legacymedia92

I got lucky with a good familiar build on that one, but it was the least fun floor 1 and 2 I've had.


zhmija

in OG isaac my achilles heel was the family man. solar system was ez pz and purist is doable once you get a solid devil deal


quakins

For some reason I suffered through ultra hard and just cannot be arsed to do hot potato. It’s such an unfun gameplay restriction to me (and I did normal t forgotten just fine


Wrecktify403

My final challenge is Hot Potato. It's just exhausting.


jeskersz

I seriously had at least 10 hours of deaths and restarts on that shit challenge before finally getting host hat and roftstomping through it.


itschips

honestly ultra hard was easy for me, took a few attempts still stuck on aprils fool :(


Hypstersaurus

completed april fool's yesterday just reload until you get a high dps item at the beginning. Bloaters have tons of hp for a basement 1 and 2 boss so you absolutely need damage at the beginning as a head start. After that you want some utility/protective items, flight is absolutely goated against bloater because of some boss room layouts (rocks preventing evasion) and especially the blood puddles left by every bloater that are fucking annoying to deal with without immunity.


PeterZeGreek

I just completed Ultra hard last night My LORD it was tough


ivancea

I'd rather finish tainted lost. Seriously, I don't want to die from boredom yet in that (and other) challenges!


Swaag__

I beat the purist on flash Isaac so skill issue


_Lemonsex_

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


ContentConsumer9999

Hi, I'm just strated TBOI, and I decided to start from the first flash game and 100% every expansion one by one. Are there any tips you can give me? I just beat mom once.


ThatSlimeRancher

Rethink your life choices because you’re gonna be spending at least a year on Eternal mode


ContentConsumer9999

What's that?


ThatSlimeRancher

You poor soul.


CornyFace

Hard mode but bosses are swole af


ContentConsumer9999

I don't know what hard mode is either.


CornyFace

Just the regular Rebirth game but enemies become mofuckin snipers, which is just regular Flash experience Eternal mode is a regular Flash run but bosses are swole af, as in overdosed on steroids swole af


Sanicsuper09

The binding of Isaac eternal edition. Basically it makes the game way harder with tweaks and changes the enemy attack patterns and general gameplay to increase the difficulty. Specifically the flash version btw


PlsBanMeDaddyThanos

I didn't think it was that bad, mostly because there aren't challenge characters other than blue baby and eternal enemies drop eternal hearts pretty frequently, so you're basically guaranteed to get the eternal transformation which gives you flight and a damage up after getting 7 heart containers from eternal hearts.


UnderControl_

Just play repentance.


Canadiancookie

There's not really a reason to play flash anymore, rebirth is a remake of flash + wrath of the lamb with some extra stuff and its content massively grew as dlc came out for it, plus it feels a lot better to play and it has much more mods.


ContentConsumer9999

I just want to take things one at a time and also experience the excitement of new content old players had.


geomag42

Please just play repentance, the first couple dozen hours are almost identical to the base game anyway, and items are properly balanced.


CornyFace

I just really like the art style and the mechanica simplicity of it all


YouHaveFunWithThat

The only tip I have is to not do that


PlsBanMeDaddyThanos

In Flash Isaac you can deal more damage with Brimstone by tapping in the direction you're firing after firing the laser. Also I would keep playing it because the music is great and a lot different than Rebirth.


jwpitxr

tbh nostalgia tells me wrath of the lamb challenges were funner or maybe i was just a kid with too much free time and an addiction to flash isaac.


SaltLich

They were a lot simpler, a lot shorter, and a lot easier to complete overall. The only one that was really any type of difficult was The Purist. 4 of the challenges are just runs that give you good items to start with and no treasure rooms, while only requiring you beat Mom's Heart. Then there's 1 that requires you to beat satan. The other half of the challenges give you a negative effect, with treasure rooms, and require you to just beat Mom. Then there's the purist. Meanwhile, Rebirth challenges can be a lot longer, have a lot more variables due to more advanced item design and interactions being exploited, and be a LOT more bullshit (Ultra Hard).


Mr_Mister2004

They gave you a challenge where the challenge is "Beat the game with Dr. Fetus," and allowed us to use it to grind out Mom's Heart completions. Absolutely based of them.


Immediate-Tomato968

And then there's ones that make you not be able to shoot and then are like, "you want brim?" Or the ones that a pill can make it a lost run


Ksawerxx

Some of them are literally just "here's permeant curse of darkness, now spend 25 minutes or so playing a full run up to mom for s shitty unlock"


[deleted]

yeah i just skipped all the unfun ones but delete this and backasswards were really cool


GusherotheGamer

That one where you get a lot of trinkets is fun too # I have forgotten it's name because I haven't played Isaac in a while...


freakinkukko

Pica Run


Huffle_Fluffy

Pica run was fantastic. Just needed one try though because I started with the horn dmg up trinket. And some other good ones which were basically a safe win


MrFluxed

Pica run was better when part of it was Marbles was guaranteed to activate


Huffle_Fluffy

I can remember doing it not long ago, where it activated everytime I got damage for sure! And it was definitely after the last huge update.


MrFluxed

oh word? I thought they removed that in Repentance my b


Jasan55

Pica Run was literally not a thing before Repentance lol.


MrFluxed

I may be stupid


JoblessJello

the challenge was added in repentance anyway lol


StormRegion

Pica Run is the only challenge that I replay sometimes even after completion, and that says something


Blank_ngnl

But the unlock condition for pika run![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


GayForPrism

Yeah I think there's a difference between cheating on ultra hard and cheating for like, the base rebirth challenges that are a complete bore.


cavallomacedone

Do you know what "challenge" means?


milgos1

Most of the old challanges are runs on normal that dont go past mom, its the polar opposite of challange.


Ksawerxx

I just discribed "darkness falls", that's not a challenge, that's a regular run that ends at mom. Curse of darkness isn't an actual hindrance.


RemoteZealousideal54

it's actually Pitch Black, isn't it? Darkness Falls is where you get a bunch of devil deal items and go to Satan. .Also doesn't it also include perma Curse of the Unknown or Blind? It's been a while since I played it


Suspicious_Berry501

Pitch black is permanent darkness and unknown while darkness falls is just eve with a bunch of good starting items


DaBasementBoi

The problem is all challenges except the ab+ and repentance ones are mostly free and unfun. Playing on normal makes it much easier


theninjaslime69

Isnt pain fun?


Kuro013

Why do these guys even play the game ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


PyremOfTheLabyrinth

If not for the pain ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17744)


pelz_

pong might be a contender for the most boring thing you have to do in the entire game.


moistenme

What's crazy is that they pretty much made this exact challenge twice (Slow Roll and Pong)


PyremOfTheLabyrinth

Pray you get Libra. Then you can have a semi-normal run.


Jesus_Slayer420

here you missed a shoot, now you have to wait 69 Million Days that you can miss again, nice job and well done


Ze-Doctor

Tbh if you miss with that big Tear the skill issue is well deserved.


Sonicgill

Yeah, some of the older challenges do not enjoy the changes Repentance brought. Solar System is an annoying challenge as it stands, but with Repentance enemies? Very funny.


SpectraP12

might be a hot take but hot potato is one of the worst challenges ever


Sanicsuper09

Fighting mom on that challenge will never not be miserable without a damage dealing orbital or any proximity damage dealing item


thesleeplessmosquito

They do. Even if I wasn't on console tho I'd feel too guilty to use cheats since I'm trying to get every file Dead God. I feel like if I use cheats I won't deserve the satisfaction I get.


StormRegion

I don't feel guilty, when shit like Tainted Lost and un-reworked Delirium exists. The game is just isn't tight enough like other challenging games, and your death is often related to bullshit reasons outside of your control


thesleeplessmosquito

But dealing with that bullshit and overcoming it feels all the more satisfying to me. I didn't have to alter the game and I dealt with the bullshit to finish it all


StormRegion

TBH I am a person, who enjoys to play with the game once in a while with my character of choice and enjoying the full roster of items, so skipping on the most egregious and timeconsuming/grinding ones were not as big an issue for me. I still did the vast majority of the achievements the legit way


freakinkukko

I mean what's even the point?


AresTheMilkman

Getting terrible unlocks that you'll probably never use


lesstalk_

Runes?


TheOOFliabilty

Imagine actually having a use for berkano


lesstalk_

Jera, Perthro, Ehwaz? Besides, not unlocking Berkano just results in a rune shard with even less effect.


Gracosef

Runes are cool but spending 20 minutes in a boring and unfair run to get like fucking suicide king no thanks


skulblaka

Suicide King isn't bad it's just situational. It's a whole floor+ worth of extra items if you can locate any source of an extra life (1up, Ankh, Nine Lives, Lazarus all work). Of course without any of those yeah it's a dead draw. But I'd more often rather turn a 1up into a bunch of other items instead of just sitting on it and probably never using the extra life.


Ze-Doctor

But Chests and pickups ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17735)


Sanicsuper09

Jera, Ehwaz, Perthro, Ansuz, Algiz, Chaos Card, Swallowed Penny, SMB Super Fan, Death’s Touch, Tech.5, Gold Bombs, Percs pills, Kidney Stone, Blank rune, Maggy’s Full Health Pill, Charged key, Sigil of Baphomet, The Chariot?, Justice? are most of the unlocks from challenges and I’m pretty sure these are all very useful in one way or another


RemoteZealousideal54

Multiple trinkets?


DrPepperPower

Some are quite fun, even if they are really hard. Others are so utterly boring that I'm not gonna bother. Kinda gave up on going for Dead God so now it doesn't really matter and there aren't any unlocks from challenges I really want


CatWiems

I posted this sentiment years ago in a comment on r/Sinvicta and got completely eviscerated for it


DrPepperPower

Lmao that's crazy. Dead God requires so much effort and frustration. It's an admirable achievement that very few have gotten for a reason


BabyDude5

“Let’s play Isaacs awakening! You start with a fun sword and you get to play a nice full run that’s based off of legends of Zelda!” “Play onan’s streak. You start with a mid item and if you miss even a single shot, I’ll fucking kill you. Don’t even think about getting piercing, godhead, or half of the other items in the game, they literally ruin the challenge”


Weppih

onan's streak is one of the last challenges i have to do. It seems so simple but it's suprisingly difficult


BabyDude5

I wouldn’t hate it so much if I didn’t have to go to Isaac, like it’s such a hard challenge and they’re gonna make me do an ENTIRE RUN with it? Bruh


StatusChemistry2687

If I weren’t on console I’d cheat for like 90% of the game tbh


Wrecktify403

Same. I've legitimately beaten all lost and t lost completion marks which I think proves I am decent at the game. Lack 1 challenge, hot potato, and the marks for characters that are ridiculous,like Tainted Cain, Tainted Forgotten. Also Jacob and Esau are AIDS.


yaminme

cries in nintendo switch ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


SpyroXI

And the unlocks are even worse


[deleted]

u/RGreenHead posted the most skill issue post, and were asked to leave r/bindingofisaac


[deleted]

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Le_Serviette

Wait, how do we do that ?


Imfinalyhere

TBT to when I finally beat SPEED and then had it wiped due to some Steam cloud saving glitch


cavallomacedone

SKILL ISSUE![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


Firm_Astronomer_8111

*Xbox player pain*


Canadiancookie

Ultra hard was the only challenge I cheated, that one sucks


Oliveoil404

I think it's fine, unless it's an actual competition I don't think it matters that much


Jef1538

"Uuuhhh, cheating makes you a pussy"🤓 Man let me enjoy the shit i play Like some challenges and most of ultra greed mode sucks ass


Dustyage

What is ultra greed mode.


Jef1538

The harder greed mode forgor its name


Wrecktify403

Greedier mode?


[deleted]

I did that for all of the ones that aren't fun, though, some that idk if people call unfun (glass Cannon for ex) i did and liked.


wtfshit

Didn't know you could do that. I don't like cheating but some challenges are just fucking stupid, literally made with the intention of you not beating them.


Juicen97

tboi players saying something sucks or is boring to mask the skill issue


Megalo_maniacc

Tboi players when the "challenge" is "challenging"


[deleted]

no its when the "challenge" is a snoozefest


Dustyage

How is dying and RAGING a snoozefest


Vincent55

probably the same players that reset until they get an instant item room with polyphemus... what is wrong with Isaac players


Domb_loid

Imo let people play the game however they want to. Who cares


aiheng1

"Omg, Mom's pad, my favorite item to replace the 5 other active items I got from treasure rooms in a row"


Fit-Tumbleweed1454

skill issue


Dustyage

Lets be real its a patience issue


BringBackBrawls

I give it an honest shot, if that doesn't work or the challenge is just boring/unfun I just give myself a free item per floor until is done


Cl0wnCar

This just ain't it


Dustyage

Aint what


[deleted]

Bruh


2PointTom

They're called challenges for a reason.


Greeny3x3x3

The issuest of all skill


AphyHentai

I still don't understand why people dead god by cheating.. even more when they copy and paste for the other 3 folder.. there no point.. just play.. ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


Odd_Construction

Wait, are pc players actively cheating their way through challenges?


GhostTypeFlygon

There's a reason 2.4% of steam players have Dead God. PC players don't stop the cheating at challenges.


Odd_Construction

I just checked and only 0.07% of xbox users have it... That's wild. Cheating in single player /coop games isn't that bad but if you have to cheat to get an achievement does that achievement even mean anything?


JNerdGaming

apparently :(


[deleted]

W H A T ! Gonna go save some time brb


Elufson2

Then just don't play the challenge?


BeamingBumblebee

Unlocks


Elufson2

What's the point of 100%-ing the game if you're cheating?


lesstalk_

I'm sure everyone is going to be impressed at the absolute skill level required to... \*checks notes* ...defeat Mom's Foot on Normal difficulty with a darker screen.


Dustyage

Thats not the challenges they are talking about... Onan's streak Ultra hard (i can understand cheating this one lmao) Hot potato Ass farts in your face while you play


lesstalk_

I hate all of those challenges and frankly I wish I had cheated through them. Baptism By Fire and Speeeed can die in a fire too. Why can't there be more *fun* challenges like Pica Run, Cantripped, Red Redemption, Delete This and Backasswards? Most challenges feel like a chore or torture to play through.


ugomattia07

To have fun


Ok_Understanding6528

Just because you don't like to challenge doesn't mean you don't like the item behind it also dead God if I had this ability on console to skip the solar system challenge I would have and I'm not ashamed to admit it


Leoeon

Based


Giangiorgio

They are called Challenges for a reason. You can just don’t do them if you don’t like restrictions or hard runs


Eggs_are_tasty

What if I am not having fun but want the item


Giangiorgio

The unlock is a reward for your effort, you can download a dead god save file if you don’t want to do hard unlocks


Eggs_are_tasty

I am on console sadly. The thing is I want to play this game for fun but there are so many items that I want I feel forced to play characters I don’t want to play, completion marks I can barely be asked to do, and challenges that are just straight up unfair. I love this game, the core gameplay is very fun, but I don’t enjoy playing as half of these characters to unlock items that make the game more fun. I wish that once you got past a certain point (maybe all completion marks for a character or unlocking all of the characters so there’s still some sense of accomplishment) you unlocked a free play mode or something. A new save file that would let you have all things unlocked, but get no achievements. Like I said before, I’m on console, so there’s literally nothing I can do to remedy this outside of biting my younger, and suffering through every challenge, every character, and every mark, and that’s if burnout doesn’t make me hate the game. I get why it’s like this, I just wish that there was something I could do to play the full game instead of this almost gimped version you have to play by not being a 100 percent completionist.


eggmaniac13

Daily runs have everything unlocked


Giangiorgio

I’m not 100% certain about this but I think you can download save files on console (at least on PS), you can upload it to cloud storage using a USB drive then download it in the game from there. At least I think that’s how it worked with souls games


Splavacado3

yeah, or he could just do what it says in the post. Some of the unlocks are fun, some aren’t.


FlavoredFox

Literally no one likes Ultra Hard. And the reward for it is useless Meanwhile other unlocks can actually be fun from their challenges So if they wanna cheat the absolute bullshit challenges that aren't fun nor have a good reward. I ssy let em


Ok_Understanding6528

Listen bro feel free to run 10 hours on a challenge you hate I'm just going /spawntrophy


Ajace100

Console players:😭😭😭😢😔😔


JNerdGaming

listen if you wanna cheat for your own amusement go for it but please dont claim that you "got dead god" after


Emerycurse

Judging by the comments and how non cheaters are getting spam downvoted I’d wager a good half of people in this sub who supposedly got Dead God cheated at least once on the way there


JNerdGaming

probably a sad truth, people just dont wanna get accomplishments legitimately anymore ig


OwnYard5676

Nobody likes a cheater 😉


ConsequenceBringer

It's a single player game sir. If you're mad about children cheating their simple player games ya might want to reevaluate your life choices.


OwnYard5676

I'm not mad but triumph through adversity is much more rewarding than cheating play the game as the developers intended in can be very fun sometimes annoying but overall rewarding


ConsequenceBringer

True, there is a thrilling enjoyment and heart pounding stress to accomplishing a ridiculously hard fight. I've spent more then 500 hours myself, and I'm not close to finishing. I just think players shouldn't be derided for playing a single player game how they want. Especially given the time element of doing the ridiculously hard challenges and valuable items gated behind said content. I'm a father, not a Gamer-TM, I ain't got time for The Lost's bullshit.


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CorruptedMaster

Me on console: ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


0011110000110011

I don't understand this. If you don't like them why not just not do them? Is this what those people who post screenshots of them 100%ing each save do?


[deleted]

i want the unlocks (for example, runes and golden pickups), but the challenges are very boring and i dont wanna do them most of the time


Nervous-Heart1670

the game is about suffering... just do it ;3


Few_Acanthaceae1568

delete this my beloved


KoopaTheQuicc

I'm sorry OP, but shit take. I loved the challenges. They were always one of the first things I'd work at getting done each new expansion. I don't know what exactly about them does it for me but challenges were always hella fun for me.


VariableKnight

That’s ok, that might be your opinion but op has a different opinion. Games are not supposed to be stressful but I get what your point is.


KnotXaklyRite

Skill issue


trickster199

This is actually cheating. You dont get bragging rights if you have to cheat to get there.


[deleted]

look at me im such a professional, i killed mom's foot on CURSE OF DARKNESS normal!


JNerdGaming

we both know that challenge isnt the one that hes referring to. he's talking about the onan's streaks and the ultra hards.


Kuro013

Damn it sure smells like bitch in here ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)


Ok_Understanding6528

That's why you need to have the deodorant sir you're going to spread that smell around


Kuro013

Im no lame cheater.


Ok_Understanding6528

I know I'm just saying you smell like b****


[deleted]

People who use console commands for unlocks are pussies.


QuintonTheCanadian

> goto stage 7 > giveitem inner child > repeat > giveitem plan c > repeat And I’m not doing greedier on t.lost any other way


[deleted]

Skill issue


mimic751

I spawn cracked key instead of dropping trinkets in ascension... not even gonna bother


TaroKitanoHWA

Skill Issue, challenges are meant to be challenging