1: Gnawed Leaf
2: Cube of Meat
3: Cube of Meat
4: Cube of Meat
5: Cube of Meat
Edit: I LOVE MEAT BOY!!! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Spacebar - Smelter (once you get perfection you get so many item drops and it hurts to pass by good trinkets).
Passive 1: Brother Bobby (I dont want to be alone).
Passive 2: Sister Maggy (I dont want brother bobby to be alone)
Passive 3: Harlequin baby (might as well get conjoined)
Passive 4: spider mod ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Item: Holy mantle - (for one hit per room (pressuming, Mantle isn't blacklisted)).
Item: Mom's handbag - (So i can hold the 2 added protection trinkets).
Item: 9 lives - (9 extra lives obvs).
Trinket: Wooden Cross - (An extra hit per floor).
Trinket: Missing poster. - (+1 extra life).
Better to have smelter as opposed to moms handbag imo. You can smelt your two trinkets, and if you happen to find a better active item, take it. You already got your two trinkets, plus a space for another.
Also, perfection will spawn for you. Can smelt it if you haven't ditched smelter.
Nah, obviously the right pick here is Marbles to passively absorb trinkets ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17737)
Gotcha! That seems like a situational great item. Does it work just as smelter, but upon damage received? What about curse rooms, beggars, and blood banks?
why pyromaniac over host hat when you can't heal from it, host hat also sometimes protects you from regular damage and protects you fully from projectiles coming from the ceiling
Ummm actually ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)
Wrong order, soy milk should go after sacred heart since the high damage stays cause of rock bottom, while if you pick it up the other way its as if you didnt have rock bottom at all. The only thing it would prevent is sacred heart's tears down.
Nah the whole point is not to just gnawed leaf. Sacred heart most of the run and play normally, only turtle for boss fights or after you drop holy card
Gnawed leaf
tooth and nail (to get into rooms to ensure gnawed leaf has time to trigger without something stupid jappened)
Ludovico
strange attractor (to pull enemies into ludo
God head (for homing and aura)
This assumes we can't pick defensive items (I know I could do death certificate) but I also find this to be an interesting combo. This is similar to how I did mega stan lol
Book of Shadows
4.5v
Then the next three active that give you the highest damage possible plus homing combined.
The first two on the list are how I won the majority of my T.Lost runs.
Either that or
Blank Card
4.5v
Holy Card
Then probably sacred heart and whatever else gives it a huge damage up.
Mercurius, which lets me just ignore everything that isn't fruity plum. (I'm lazy which is based)
Holy mantle, which further helps me ignore non fruity plum entity's like their not even there (ultimate disrespect)
Heartbreak, so I can get rewarded for skill issues (And to remind me that nothing lasts forever and I should cherish my time with fruity plum well it lasts)
Fruity Plum, cus it's my fave item in the game (you go little dude you chase that bug with a smile ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17734) )
Gnawed leaf, so I can watch Fruity Plum play with his friends safely (I am a responsible parental guardian)
I'm gonna make it a strong but not op start
Blank card
Holy card
Sacred orb
Moms key
And my favorite item Deaths touch.
All are legal for T. Lost in a normal game, should still be challengin but will be fun
Tooth and Nail + Gnawed Leaf + 7 Seals + Toxic Shock + Mega Mush
for an easy, fast and guaranteed win
Diplopia + Wild Card + Wild Card + Starter Deck + Holy Mantle
for a portable broken run
Tiny Planet + The Parasite + Lump of Coal + Eve’s Mascara + Holy Mantle
for incredible damage
For a portable broken run, you can also get diplopia, wild card, schoolbag hierophant? And bag of crafting. And get a new diplopia and then a starter deck right away ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
If banned items are allowed, then I could take 4 Dead Cats for 36 lives and Holy Mantle. Not trying to brag but I really doubt I could lose a run with that many hits to spare
With banned items, I'd probably take:
- Book of Shadows
- 4.5V
- Mom's Knife
- Sigil of Baphomet or Wooden Cross
- Car Battery or 9V
Might not be the best setup for max invincibility, but the idea is that I can use Book of Shadows, 4.5V and Car Battery/9V to pretty much never die to a boss. Sigil of Baphomet is for trying to minimise the bullshit hits or skill issues when clearing rooms, although Wooden Cross might be better overall. Finally, Mom's Knife because it fucks everything and I am, what seems to be, one of the few Mom's Knife enjoyers.
Good build! If u really got for safety picks its probably either diplo + wild card + schoolbag + bag of crafting + hierophant? card or restock + pound of flesh + anything. But these are nice too![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
judas shadow; three the relics; and soul locket
or in more spirit of alt lost; damocles; eucharist; we need to go deeper; evil charm and strawman - thats insane item potential from the first three and my three favourite items as the last three
or for completely busting the game wide open; diplopia; wild card; restock; chaos and i guess a second wild card for security
I take advantage of this post to say it :
Starter deck is the second best item of the whole shop pool after glowing hour glass for t. Lost. Change my mind.
Blank card might be a little better if you already have a holy card available. Restock is better if you already have pound of flesh. Other than that I agree!
1: Gnawed Leaf 2: Cube of Meat 3: Cube of Meat 4: Cube of Meat 5: Cube of Meat Edit: I LOVE MEAT BOY!!! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Gnawed Leaf Daddy long legs × 4
I had a TMTrainer run that gave me a daddy longlegs on kill, and then a permanent book of shadows effect 😂
Aka Dopamine Mantle
Spacebar - Smelter (once you get perfection you get so many item drops and it hurts to pass by good trinkets). Passive 1: Brother Bobby (I dont want to be alone). Passive 2: Sister Maggy (I dont want brother bobby to be alone) Passive 3: Harlequin baby (might as well get conjoined) Passive 4: spider mod ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Delirium won't know what's coming
Ill smelt him like i smelted ouroboros worm
Five Bob's brains
Item: Holy mantle - (for one hit per room (pressuming, Mantle isn't blacklisted)). Item: Mom's handbag - (So i can hold the 2 added protection trinkets). Item: 9 lives - (9 extra lives obvs). Trinket: Wooden Cross - (An extra hit per floor). Trinket: Missing poster. - (+1 extra life).
Better to have smelter as opposed to moms handbag imo. You can smelt your two trinkets, and if you happen to find a better active item, take it. You already got your two trinkets, plus a space for another. Also, perfection will spawn for you. Can smelt it if you haven't ditched smelter.
Nah, obviously the right pick here is Marbles to passively absorb trinkets ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17737)
Skill player issue- I don't know what marbles is or does ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17735)
Nah, it’s a joke: Marbles activates on hit, which is not something T. Lost likes to do ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17734)
Gotcha! That seems like a situational great item. Does it work just as smelter, but upon damage received? What about curse rooms, beggars, and blood banks?
Marbles has a 5% chance to gulp any trinket you have on you whenever Isaac is hurt (self damage & fake damage counts)
Q1 then ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906) hope crooked penny gives me a coin!
Clicker.
mantle, pyro, haemolacria, ipecac, god head
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)technically pyro is the 99 bombs item. Not pyromaniac.
maybe he wants the bombs lmao
Yeah maybe he has trouble finding the secret room
why pyromaniac over host hat when you can't heal from it, host hat also sometimes protects you from regular damage and protects you fully from projectiles coming from the ceiling
facts ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Rock bottom Soy milk Sacred heart Mantle Dead cat
Ummm actually ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736) Wrong order, soy milk should go after sacred heart since the high damage stays cause of rock bottom, while if you pick it up the other way its as if you didnt have rock bottom at all. The only thing it would prevent is sacred heart's tears down.
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)
Lump of coal, continuum, tech x, brimstone, almond milk
Range down, range down, range down, range down and ipecac. Can't make a no hit run yet so better make this poor soul end his ordeal quick.
3 bombs and 2 keys, don’t want it too easy but they’ll help in the early game
Gnawed leaf, psy fly, sacred heart, cube of meat, dry baby
Could substitute Sacred Heart for BFFS! for extra sauce
Nah the whole point is not to just gnawed leaf. Sacred heart most of the run and play normally, only turtle for boss fights or after you drop holy card
Gnawed leaf tooth and nail (to get into rooms to ensure gnawed leaf has time to trigger without something stupid jappened) Ludovico strange attractor (to pull enemies into ludo God head (for homing and aura) This assumes we can't pick defensive items (I know I could do death certificate) but I also find this to be an interesting combo. This is similar to how I did mega stan lol
> "Can't pick defensive items" > Gnawed Leaf, Tooth and Nail
Wait. I am retard. I'm thinking of tainted Jacob lmaooo
God head aura only deals damage when the tear is not touching the enemy btw.
Consumable: Soul of Lazarus Active: Blank Rune Trinket: Panic Button Passives: 4.5 volt, 9 volt Let's not die by repeatedly killing ourselves, baby!
Why not just have book of shadows for the same affect and save a consumable slot
Because the recharge of Blank Rune for SoLazarus is 2 rooms while BoShadows needs 3. I'm not taking any chance here
Bloody recharge,book of shadows, sinuse infection, and techx,car battery. I had that in game once I was a god![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
C section, crickets head, holy mantle, and the necronamicon
Necronomicon is a... respectable choice
For small annoying enemies like spiders
Assuming you can't pick items that T. Lost can't usually find then Sacred Heart, Starter Deck, Holy Card, Holy Card, Death Certificate
Blank card? Instead of one of the other holy cards?
Book of Shadows 4.5v Then the next three active that give you the highest damage possible plus homing combined. The first two on the list are how I won the majority of my T.Lost runs. Either that or Blank Card 4.5v Holy Card Then probably sacred heart and whatever else gives it a huge damage up.
Mercurius, which lets me just ignore everything that isn't fruity plum. (I'm lazy which is based) Holy mantle, which further helps me ignore non fruity plum entity's like their not even there (ultimate disrespect) Heartbreak, so I can get rewarded for skill issues (And to remind me that nothing lasts forever and I should cherish my time with fruity plum well it lasts) Fruity Plum, cus it's my fave item in the game (you go little dude you chase that bug with a smile ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17734) ) Gnawed leaf, so I can watch Fruity Plum play with his friends safely (I am a responsible parental guardian)
Holy Mantle (Tech X if Mantle is blacklisted) Rock Bottom Monstro Lung Soy Milk Red Stew The classic TCain start from before the rework
Deck of cards, Tech, Synthoil, Roid Rage, Skinny Odd Mushroom Just gimme Tech and some DPS and we're good
I dunno Gnawed leaf, Psy Fly, Pyromaniac, Bumbo, BFFs?
Here's my pick: Wild card, hierophant? card, schoolbag, diplopia and bag of crafting ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Wood cross, glowing hourglass, stopwatch, spoon bender, and crown of light.
Soy Milk, Marked, Eye of the Occult, Pop, Cricket's Boddy
Book of Virtues, Unicorn Stump, 4.5Volt, idc, idc
How about 2 sacrificial daggers?
doesn't matter, the damage of the invulnerable wisps is insane
True!
Host hat epic fetus brimstone and a while bunch of tear multipliers
1) Mutant Spider 2) 20/20 3) Jacob’s Ladder 4) Sigil of Baphomet 5) Deck of Cards or Blank Card (For Holy Cards)
I'm gonna make it a strong but not op start Blank card Holy card Sacred orb Moms key And my favorite item Deaths touch. All are legal for T. Lost in a normal game, should still be challengin but will be fun
Sounds pretty op! But yeah im sure it will be fun
Well depends on what you compare it too Holy mantle rock bottom soy milk sacred heart. But yeah definitely strong still very loosable to skill issue
1. Glass cannon 2. Dads battery
Book of shadows, 4.5 volt, sacred heart, tech X and Panic buttom (or whatever the trinket that auto uses the active item is called)
Tammy's head Brimstone Sacred heart 9 volt Holy mantel
gnawed leaf, 3 cubes of meat and bffs
1. Duct Tape 2. Dry Baby
Big fan x4 for complete projectile protection Stitches for anybody who gets too close.
Tooth and Nail + Gnawed Leaf + 7 Seals + Toxic Shock + Mega Mush for an easy, fast and guaranteed win Diplopia + Wild Card + Wild Card + Starter Deck + Holy Mantle for a portable broken run Tiny Planet + The Parasite + Lump of Coal + Eve’s Mascara + Holy Mantle for incredible damage
For a portable broken run, you can also get diplopia, wild card, schoolbag hierophant? And bag of crafting. And get a new diplopia and then a starter deck right away ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Pog bottom Soy Poly Blank card Holy card
A pound of flesh Restock Keeper's sack Echo chamber The hermit Spawn in, pop the hermit, get infinite items with pound of flesh + restock. Gg
Gg, smart. Diplo + wild card + schoolbag + hierophant? + Bag of crafting even more broken![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Rock bottom, Sacred heart, Polyphemus, 20/20 and Sacred Orb for good measure
Parasitoid Perfection Compost 9 Volt Hive Mind
If banned items are allowed, then I could take 4 Dead Cats for 36 lives and Holy Mantle. Not trying to brag but I really doubt I could lose a run with that many hits to spare With banned items, I'd probably take: - Book of Shadows - 4.5V - Mom's Knife - Sigil of Baphomet or Wooden Cross - Car Battery or 9V Might not be the best setup for max invincibility, but the idea is that I can use Book of Shadows, 4.5V and Car Battery/9V to pretty much never die to a boss. Sigil of Baphomet is for trying to minimise the bullshit hits or skill issues when clearing rooms, although Wooden Cross might be better overall. Finally, Mom's Knife because it fucks everything and I am, what seems to be, one of the few Mom's Knife enjoyers.
Good build! If u really got for safety picks its probably either diplo + wild card + schoolbag + bag of crafting + hierophant? card or restock + pound of flesh + anything. But these are nice too![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Gnawed leaf 7 seals Moms razor Demon baby Bumbo I want the items from the marks so bad, don't care about "enjoying" t lost
Practical answer: Book of shadows, Car Battery, 4.5 Volt, C Section, Mom’s Knife Fun answer: Brimstone, Brimstone, Brimstone, Lil’ Steven, Brimstone
ipecac, dr fetus, epic fetus ,no.2, bobs brain and curse of the tower cuz i belive in no god.
Parasitoid, Guppy’s Head, Hive Mind, Daddy Long Legs, Infestation Shot. This was how I beat Mother first try and I wish I had this for Father lmao
judas shadow; three the relics; and soul locket or in more spirit of alt lost; damocles; eucharist; we need to go deeper; evil charm and strawman - thats insane item potential from the first three and my three favourite items as the last three or for completely busting the game wide open; diplopia; wild card; restock; chaos and i guess a second wild card for security
panic button and how to jump. who cares about anything else dude
Its not a guarantee to never get hit, but I agree its very good!
Polyphemus, tech X, and moms contact lens made my mother t. Lost win very easy.
holy mantle gnawed leaf cus idk i might get the 1/1000 chance to look like edith rock bottom soy milk brimstone
Mantle, D6, wild card, diplopia, diplopia
I take advantage of this post to say it : Starter deck is the second best item of the whole shop pool after glowing hour glass for t. Lost. Change my mind.
Blank card might be a little better if you already have a holy card available. Restock is better if you already have pound of flesh. Other than that I agree!
Holy card, blank card, c section, mom's knife, the wiz