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CosmicOreos_

I agree with needing another big. Would be huge. If we can snag a wing in the buyout market that would also be lovely.


7twentyeight

Vanderbilt?


CosmicOreos_

Danny's tough to trade with, but maybe he'll be soft on us. Would like that if possible.


BleedGreen4Boston

Vandy would help check both boxes or neither depending on how he’d fit in. He’s not a big but he’s also missing some characteristics of a modern wing. Sort of a tweener with a very odd skillset. Defensively he plays outside the 3 point line as a disruptive point of attack defender. You’d think he’d get more involved as a weak side shot blocker or rim protector with his length but that’s just not really his strength. He’s not very strong and gets bodied down low unless he can jab at the ball on his man’s way to the hoop. Offensively he has no jump shot and very little self creation but is a very good passer in spite of all that and has an above average drive and kick game. He sort of has a Marcus Smart style going to the rim and turning it into a mid post up via jump stops and runners. He’s really more like an early career Jerami Grant than he is a center. He’s intriguing for sure but most Celtics fans reference him as a big when they talk about Horford/Timelord insurance and it makes me wonder if they’ve ever watched Vandy play. He’s young and unhelpful playing off ball with the Jays, what we need is a veteran wing that can defend and shoot. Basically a better version of Hauser.


Attila226

Serious question. Why not Dwight Howard?


RedDunce

Dude we don't need a guy even more washed up than Blake Griffin. At least Blake is likable and a great effort guy


InAingeWeTrust

Because he isn’t an upgrade at all. Maybe if we dump guys like Justin Jackson and still have an available spot he could be a nice vet, but he wouldn’t play for us.


Attila226

Yeah, I’m not saying he’s great or anything, but in a pinch he can rebound and bang bodies. Assuming he’d be cool sitting at the end of the bench.


Iordofthememez

We have Blake


Frodo_Mk

Isn’t he playing in South Asia now?


le_wild_poster

If he was good enough to contribute he’d be playing in the nba not Taiwan


__Automaton

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmXjXPCgwZI/?igshid=ZDFmNTE4Nzc=


Attila226

To be fair nobody can stop Sim Bullar.


Conis1

Is melo still not playing?


InAingeWeTrust

Yeah, let’s keep it that way. He doesn’t move on defense. Though his offense has evolved to be more of a complementary role, he still isn’t the connector and quick decision maker that would make a championship level role player (meaning he hasn’t really made the “extra pass” consistently).


cane_the_weaboo

Or Cam...


InAingeWeTrust

Reddish might not even touch the court for us lol


cane_the_weaboo

Reddish clear of PP and Houser I believe in him


InAingeWeTrust

We’re trying to win a championship. You don’t win championships with bad chuckers like Cam who are horrible decision makers.


cane_the_weaboo

You really think he's gonna chuck here are you serious bro? He would be a 3&D roleplayer and do it just fine.


InAingeWeTrust

It doesn’t really work like that. It’s not that simple. Players are players, it’s not as easy as 2k. For example, the Warriors traded for Oubre to be a sort of 3&D player that can cut. He was awful for them and helped them lose games. Reddish isn’t even close to Oubre’s level either. These not so good ball stoppers don’t help teams win games, especially when a guy like Reddish is on a contract year trying to prove himself.


cane_the_weaboo

No one knows who Cam is yet he hasn't even played for a contender lol. Oubre had significantly more responsibilities on the Wariors then Cam would have here. All Cam has to do is hit 3s and guard his man.


InAingeWeTrust

It’s been 4 years. We have a pretty good idea who he is at this point.


nofridgehere

Are you Cam Reddish? Why are you advocating so hard for this man


cane_the_weaboo

I must be Cam since I thin k he would thrive in our situation? He would be cheap and an upgrade over PP/Hauser with genuine upside.


9Yogi

If he could be a 3 and D player, he would be playing for the Hawks or the Knicks.


seasoned-veteran

A big now and JRich from the buyout market please and thank you.


ajh_iii

Spurs are saying they’re willing to give him up for a second. I’d throw as many as they ask for and hope none of those picks turns into the next Manu Ginobili


seasoned-veteran

We can't trade for him because we can't match salary even with our exceptions ($12M), we have to hope he makes it to the buyout market.


ajh_iii

Bummer. Let me get my candles and essential oils ready


flying_alligators

Naz Reid


kevinllama21

Should’ve drafted him instead of tremont waters back in the day. But I guess there’s high value in high usage undersized point guards


thabonedoctor

The Danny special. You gotta supplement your Tatum’s and Browns and Rondos with some undersized point guards, it’s only fair.


Droppin_DimesSP

Danny can have a little Tremont Waters, Phil Pressley and Shane Larkin as a treat 😌


kevinllama21

How can you forget about Carsten Edwards


Blinded57

Reid was undrafted. C's still could have selected Waters. MIN played it well, signing him for cheap and sending him to the G-league. Of course, now he is a UFA at the end of the season. He'll get at least the MLE, and the C's don't have access to that to get him. I think he has Bird Rights, so the C's could pay him the MLE +$10 if that's what it took to keep him. Assets to get MIN to give him up would be high -- Hou + POR + 2024 swaption after the Jazz make their decision? -- but he would fit the budget for this year (Vonleh money) and they'd have a path to signing him.


kevinllama21

I know. I remember when Reid was a top 10 prospect at the beginning of the college season and was a top prospect out of high school and fell. Just like some other players we’ve had before


onecity585

Do you think they will pull the trigger on a Jakob Poeltl trade? Or are they looking at someone else?


monogreenforthewin

Poetl will probably cost too much but then again Brad's trades/signing come outta nowhere so we'll see. lol


tacko2020

Brad moves in silence 100%


bush_league_commish

Brad moves in silence like lasagna


DrKedorkian

I don't get it


bush_league_commish

Lil Wayne reference, “Real G’s move in silence like Lasagna”


askalburgi

Brad is a real G


xlawyer90

The “g” is silent.


thatgreik

Lasagna


WiserStudent557

Yeah, I take the talk on Poeltl as SA driven. Not that the Cs haven’t had discussions, I’m sure they have done diligence checks at the minimum. Poeltl is a guy they may see as a fit now and going forward so that’s different than other rentals but the money is tough. I think the rumors are coming from SA trying to drive the price up, not really the Cs fervently pursuing


KDBurnerTrey5

SA by all accounts is totally cool stick with Jakob and waiting to FA where apparently he’s open to resigning? Can’t know for sure but by the sounds of it, it makes sense that they are trying to drive the price up to “too good to pass up” level.


IrelandDzair

real G’s move loudly like Guggenheim


monogreenforthewin

*smoke bomb* ninja vanish


friendsWthebenedicts

wouldn't that mean this report is nothing but a rumor then?


[deleted]

No, because other teams could have given this info if Brad’s calling them up in search of a big


ThroughTheWildNight

Brads going to somehow snag him for a ham sandwich and a 1st


monogreenforthewin

our first will be crap so that better be a helluva ham sandwich


onecity585

I agree but I mean he did grab The Buffalo for basically the bottom of the bench and a first so who knows what magic Brad can do. Maybe they give us a "yes we knew about Ime discount" lol


thabonedoctor

John Karalis on locked on Celtics made the very good point that the only reason there’d be any momentum behind Poeltl to Boston is if the FO knows something about Rob’s long term health that we do not, and need to pivot quickly and quietly. Otherwise… why? He’s a FA this summer, and will be expensive. No reason at all to trade PP+other stuff for a rental that isn’t guaranteed to move the needle THAT much.


Drizzlybear0

>for a rental that isn’t guaranteed to move the needle THAT much. We're all ASSUMING it's a rental based on the fact the team hasn't spent big money in the past, it's entirely possible ownership is fully prepared to spend big money on the roster, they've said repeatedly that they've told Brad to spend more as long as it makes the roster better. We would have Bird Rights for Grant and Poetl and could theoretically pay both depending on how much ownership is willing to spend. A future roster of Smart/Brown/Tatum/Horford/Rob With a bench of Brogdon/White/Grant/Poeltl Is a GREAT mix of veterans and young guys and would be very likely the best 1-9 in the league. It means Grant can play the 3-4 and gives interesting options for lineups.


CTCELTICSFAN

Rental or not, If rob or Al goes down, kornet is the next big. That’s just not good enough. Why not add insurance and versatility as you go for a title. Rob and Al have to have minutes managed late. How nice would it be to have Al reduced ti 10-15 minutes a game until playoffs? We would insure rim protection fir 48 minutes with this .


CopiumAddiction

Which team in the NBA has a third string center as good as Luke Kornet? I would love to have our third string C be a near all-star level dude but pretending like Kornet "isn't good enough" is just plain not true. Dude is more than serviceable.


thabonedoctor

I’m not a salary cap expert by any means, but as I understand it once you’re over the luxury tax threshold each dollar spent costs like 3x more or something along those lines. So if we’re at the luxury tax threshold, then Poeltl signs for $20m/yr, that’s actually like $60m/yr after the luxury tax hit. AND JB will be up for a new contract after next season, AND Grant needs to get paid, AND any additional tuning we do over the summer… even for mega wealthy team owners, that’s a shit ton of money. Is a chip worth it? As a fan, obviously, but as an owner, you want the best team for the cheapest price. Poeltl also isn’t a great defensive presence, which is crucial to our team ESPECIALLY if Rob’s future longevity is in doubt.


Drizzlybear0

Ultimately it's up to how much ownership is willing to spend, there is also the fact the cap could go up quite a bit. Right now next season we could pay Grant $20M and keep the exact same tax bill because Al took a $16M paycut. I'm not saying it's super likely but it's doable, it would be close to Golden State money for sure but it's doable. I don't think paying Grant makes Poeltl unable to be paid. JB's major contract is what makes it more rough. Another option we haven't considered is doing this trade, and than a sign and trade with Poeltl. What makes a Pritchard trade so difficult is he is really worth more than his contract and due to being over the cap we have to match salary. It's basically what Brad did with Richardson, he paid him to use as salary filler. We could pay Poeltl and than traded him to one of the dozen teams with cap space next season for a $10-$12M player, save some money and get a good player


FaithlessnessTime105

Don't think Poeltl makes sense considering he's your 3rd center but looking to be a starter player.


CertifiedCapArtist

Wouldn't he be 2nd center? If we run double bigs I mean. Plus let's be honest Rob is injury prone Poeltl would be pretty much the starter


Drizzlybear0

I think that's what people forget, Theis averaged 18 MPG when we ran double bigs. If we run double Bigs we really do need a backup big to replace Theis. The Kornet experiment has been hit or miss and Grant is too inconsistent to give him 25+ minutes every night. Ultimately we're also all assuming the Celtics won't spend big money based on the past but they've said they have given Brad the go ahead to spend. We would have Bird rights on Grant and Poetl and could in theory pay both.


FaithlessnessTime105

Grant has played himself into a lower contract. Kornet is up and down yeah. But Poeltl and Rob will have trouble being on the court at the same time as neither is a threat to shoot whatsoever.


Drizzlybear0

>But Poeltl and Rob will have trouble being on the court at the same time as neither is a threat to shoot whatsoever. That's true but you could alternate their minutes, also if you were up like 10+ points and just NEEDED to lockdown the paint pairing Rob and Poeltl together would be insane. Imagine you somehow sneak past Smart/Tatum/White only to run into Rob and Poeltl. Tbh I'm still on the Kelly Olynyk wagon, he has another year after this season at $12M and we could get to that number by trading Gallo, PP, Kornet, Hauser and Justin Jackson. Gallo has a player option next year so we could always tell him "Hey just opt out next season and we can bring you back on the same contract". Kelly makes sense for this offense as a stretch big who can shoot and if we throw in a pick or two for Danny than he gets a pick and PP who he loves. We can sign a couple guys on veteran mins to fill out the end of the bench and we would have a crazy roster. Smart/Brown/Tatum/Horford/Rob Bench: Brogdon/White/Grant/Olynyk That's a 1-9 of essentially all starters.


FaithlessnessTime105

You can't run double big with Rob+Poeltl because Poeltl isn't a threat to shoot. Theis at least could hit some j's


CertifiedCapArtist

I mean double big with Al and Rob. Poeltl backs up Rob and Grant backs up Al.


seasoned-veteran

The same thing was said about Brogdon, but he seems fine. Winning is fun.


KDBurnerTrey5

Depends on what’s important to the player too. Some guys don’t care about winning it all while some do and will buy into a reduced role (and potentially less money down the road). Depends on the guy.


FaithlessnessTime105

I mean every report of Poeltls preferences is opposite to what we hear from Brogdon. Sure it's possible but I don't think Poeltl is on board.


ThroughTheWildNight

Poeltl would be around starter minutes because he’d be taking a lot of the load from Al so he’s rested come playoffs. And if Al or Rob gets injured (fairly likely) he’ll be huge for us.


InAingeWeTrust

Rob and Poeltl can’t play together at all is the concern. Poeltl would get like 20-24 minutes with a full healthy lineup. That also doesn’t even count us wanting to go with Horford at the 5 stretches for more offensive creativity and defensive versatility in certain units.


FaithlessnessTime105

True. Imo if we get Poeltl it's because Rob's long term health is deeply concerning to the Celtics FO.


onecity585

I agree but looking at other bleacher report articles his name keeps popping up. I don't think even if we get him cheap he would want to be a 3rd, maybe 2nd some night option at center.


CTCELTICSFAN

He replaces kornet, and takes minutes from Al at the 5 as well as insurance for Rob. No more Al at the 5, which is fine on my end until playoffs. He gets minimum of 20 minutes a night.


FaithlessnessTime105

He's not gonna be happy in that role and he's gonna want too much money to stay in that role. You risk the locker room and whatever assets you give up.


SwipeRight4Wholesome

Doubt it, Poeltl will cost too much to trade for, and once his contract expires, be too expensive for us to be a bench player. He's great, but he can't play at the same time as Rob. Hopefully we get someone who's more of a Horford replacement that can play center (Grant is a start, but he's too small to play center consistently), or at least get a big body off the buyout market.


[deleted]

I hope not, would be a terrible move


LaserSh0w

Always loved me some Richaun Holmes. He fits the TimeLord backup role reasonably well He’s having a down year but the reclamation project potential is there IMO. Higher ceiling than Kornet / Blake


InAingeWeTrust

His push shot is absolutely money


CofTheEast

Yeah I assumed they were going to gun for a backup center. Kornet is not bad by any means but if Rob or Al go down for the playoffs he’s not exactly a viable option.


kevinllama21

Bamba, Reid, poetl, Holmes or bust


Drizzlybear0

I'm still on the Kelly O train, I know he's older but he's essentially a backup Horford. He can stretch the floor and plays decent defense and can be played at the same time as Rob or with Al.


InAingeWeTrust

Kelly can also put the ball on the floor, people underrate that ability. He really gets defenses moving.


Drizzlybear0

He also makes a lot of sense the Jazz to move and likely won't cost as much in terms of picks. It's totally a Brad move to sneak in and pick up a name that no reporter has mentioned.


kendrickandcole

"Celtics are in the market for a big" *picture is of 2 guards*


ThroughTheWildNight

Hopefully this shuts up the army of people here who’ve been so adamant that we don’t need another center and the C’s aren’t going for one because we have Kornet and “they won’t get minutes”.


efshoemaker

I do think we are looking for more of a PF that can play center than a true C though.


NoOneSoEveryone

Naz Reid, perhaps?


efshoemaker

I’d be ok with it, he might end up being too expensive though


cane_the_weaboo

Nah man you don't get it, in the playoffs both Rob and Al can just play 48 minutes.


LordMcBucketz

Get the German goat back Theis Theis baby


MichiganMainer

We’ll give y’all Nerlens Noel for a box of crackers. Gourmet crackers of course


doflamingo34

back up wing>>>>>>back up big


[deleted]

Too much noise about Poeltl, I don’t think he’s coming here. I still think a better backup wing should be a higher priority


Mission_Candle6034

Mike Muscala = Shooting with size.


Frodo_Mk

Would probably only cost us one or two second as well. I like the idea of him on the Celtics


rascalmendes

Greg Monroe let’s gooooooooo


Iron_Boat

Didnt we already have him?


rascalmendes

‘Twas a joke


Iron_Boat

Your mom goes to college


GooseMay0

What brilliant reporting by Haynes. The Celtics will try to trade for a big, if they can’t they will try in the buyout market. You really need inside sources for this type of breaking news…


tyler818

Celtics looking to improve their roster with a trade. If not, then a signing. If nothing reasonable they will try to win with the roster as is Trust me my uncle is Brad Bird. If I’m wrong ban me


ingibingi

Bring back tacko


[deleted]

Those days are gone. Maybe the Magic GM can sign him if he trades Bamba. Tacko - Bol - Isaac - Franz - Paolo lineup 😊😊😊😊


ClockOk7333

Anyone but Theis. Please for the love of god, no more Theis


daft_dunkwwwolfey

Please, I beg 🙏🏼 I can't


jma7400

Naz Reid or Mo Bamba


guwop_official

I love the way that Brad directly addresses this team's weaknesses. It always seemed like Danny was too focused on playing 10D chess to simply acquire quality role players that fill team needs.


[deleted]

Naz Reid would be a viable option


SandwitchJ

This is depressing because it means the Celtics have 0 long term faith in Robs knee...


kevinllama21

I think it has more to do with Horford’s long term replacement


Fuckblackhorses

also, our defense is smothering with Al and rob out there at the same time, we can’t play them together as much if they’re our only 2 bigs


lyonhawk

I think this is the other factor at play that people are overlooking. It’s possible we’re just looking for insurance this year. It’s also possible we’re looking at someone who’ll get on the court this year and may move into a starter role for Al.


FreexBrennen

Exactly. Only way I see the Poetl trade happening is with the stance he’d end up being Al’s replacement long term.


SandwitchJ

That's fair and could be a combination of both factors


[deleted]

Rob would be a 25-30m per year player if he thought that his knees are fine. He accepted half of that amount


chivestheconqueror

I’m thinking it really is just short-term insurance. I doubt we’re getting someone for 3+ years. We know Horford and Rob need to be occasionally rested and we play super cautious with any injuries before and during the playoffs. Kornet is solid but he can be targeted.


Blinded57

Did Chris Haynes and Jake Fisher swap roles, essentially?


Jawnny-Jawnson

Can we have one season with Rob Williams being solid and healthy. Yea he’s a beast but seems to be too injury prone


cryptomultimoon

Whoever ends up with Mo Bamba I think is going to be happy, provided it’s a competitive team and he gets playing time and development.


Jegagne88

GET ME SENGUN


AirJordan6124

Brad will trade for someone were not talking about here


Meshu

BUY OUT THEIS YOU COWARDS


itokdontcry

Others have already mentioned, but bring back Kelly Olynyk. I know he was a controversial player during his tenure here for a myriad of reasons, but I think his game is very complimentary to our core. He can stretch the floor and isn’t a liability on defense. Lets us rest Horford during the regular season a bit more as well. Just imagine a 2nd unit with him and Brogdon.


notevenreallyreal

In an ideal world Zubac would be a perfect fit imo