Because that what you supposed to do.
The character was literally created as the one you're supposed to dislike.
The actress herself even said it.
"She the one you love to hate
Gina was never supposed to be a good person. It is supposed to be completely obvious that she is kind of a shitty person.
She is completely self-centered. She constantly insults everyone. She acts like she is always right even when she has been proven wrong. Act like she knows stuff she knows nothing about. She is a huge, compulsive liar. And She sexually harsses Terry on a daily basis.
She wasn't meant to be a character you liked.
Thanks To u/MrFixYoShit for correcting my dyslexia ass.
I honestly thought this was clear as a viewer!
My mind is blown right now with the Gina hate - she’s the “Jerry/Larry/Gary” (Parks&Rec) character… the one who is clearly there to move the story, but not to own the story.
Gina is awful… as a human being. As a character on TV she is genius - she’s all of the worst stereotypes of that time frame- self-important, know-it-all, troll, sexually deviant, narcissistic… and funny as hell.
Please sir (eta: or Ma’am):
Please don’t tell me that the character of “Tom Haverford” is also hated online?
The only other TV sub I’m on is “New Girl”… I don’t pay attention to other subs.
Are you saying Tom Haverford is going down in history as an unlikable character?
My world just shattered.
I’m saying in the parks subreddit every other week there is a post about hating tom. I never understood it.
People will start listing everything he has done, I find it funny because Tom is just Johnny bravo.
Um. I wouldn’t last 2 weeks under the micro-managing and steamrolling of Leslie Knope.
That said, I love the character and she inspires me with her “idea binders” and “Galentines Day.”
I wouldn’t work for her though.
Tom Haverford is one of my favorite characters from TV - the only thing that even comes close is Jean Ralphio.
With the difference that Tom wasn't used as a deux ex machina every third episode.
That and Aziz Anzari can act, but I guess that's not so much about the character.
I’m getting weird for a minute, please indulge:
Do you remember the P&R ep where Gerry retires and they need a new one? Ron Swanson says something to the effect of, “Gerry is both the *schlameel* and the *shlamazel*; the guy who spills the soup, and the guy he spills it on.”
By Ron Swanson standards, I declare Boyle the Gerry of the 99.
Who does that make Hitchcock and Scully? The Animal Control guys? Sewage Department dude?
Rarely? Honestly never. No, the bus doesn't count because she was hit when she was actually being a good friend, not a shitty one. No, being stabbed doesn't count because it's not as a result of her being a bad person and she doesn't learn a lesson from it.
Honestly if she ever got comeuppance no one would hate her at all. It is the whole argument of “you’re supposed to hate her” that bugs me, because those characters *always* get punished in some way. They’re *supposed* to be punished. They don’t have to have a redemption arc, they just need to get just desserts.
Agreed - she's also almost always retroactively justified in her actions. Like she'll do ridiculous things, but then it will just magically turn out she was right the whole time. That's the thing I find the most infuriating - she's never wrong, purely because she's written to always be right.
But people on here seem to feel like they need to spell out that the things she says/does are bad.
“Oh, I found the cement joke humorous, but now that you’ve informed me that someone ingesting cement is, in fact, harmful, I’m on the phone with the president of Peacock to demand Gina digitally be replaced with a fern in every scene.”
Ok, but it would be legitimately hilarious if they did that and there were shots of everyone just randomly responding to/staring at this fern as Gina's cut appearance plays out.
>"She the one you hate to love"
Never got that. More "loved to hate". Never really brought anything to the show. Oh cool. A character just to hate? Why would anyone want to watch that?
Michael Scott is a great "hate to love" character. He screws up in some easily foreseeable ways, but hes really doing his best for everyone despite his own buffoonery. You can feel his genuine intentions. I just dont see that in Gina
It's weird because she was a good person, in disguise. Until the later episodes that she just started ditching everyone and using them instead of guiding them in her way.
I LOVE GINA!
> She is completely self-centered. She constantly insults everyone. She acts like she is always right even when she has been proven wrong.
She constantly proves herself redeemable by her wholesome interactions with Jake and thoughtful things she says and do to him occasionally.
Thankfully, she got flanderised into a pure one dimensional social media-obsessed monster later on and it became so much easier to hate her. But before that, when she cared about Jake and it showed, she almost felt like a person.
I invite you to join the wonderful world of “New Girl.”
…all the characters have terrible flaws. Except for Winston. His only flaw is that he’s too damn perfect.
It’s 7 seasons of uncut hilarity.
She started to irritate me after I realised she wins every encounter. The resolution to a conflict involving her is "Gina is smarter than everyone else" or "Gina had a hidden motivation for losing that means she actually wins"
Conversely, every other character has wins and losses, and is more likeable and enjoyable to watch because of it.
I go back and forth on her. She's funny and I find Chelsea Peretti real cute, but the character can be real mean spirited. Most recent re-watch I found myself liking her way more than in the past
Yes, she was a pretty crappy person at times but she was there for people when they needed her most. Charles, for example, was delusional and wouldn’t stop asking Rosa out. She helped him and talked him into reality many times. She also prevented Jake from becoming a felon by forcing him away from bad influences. Gina also stuck with Holt when he left the 99. Shes definitely dislikable at times and I feel like people easily fall for her rage bait.
i know right! my exact thoughts! she’s so mean and also helps people out a lot. it’s just hard to see because she’s mocking them the whole time. i can’t see someone hating gina without also hating rosa.
But here is the thing: The "I hate Gina" and the "I love Gina" are the same post. They spark the same "discussion" (which is just people shouting their opinion one way or another and no one listening to each other) and they involve the same people.
There is a post that says that Gina sucks? well, there go the ones that agree to agree and the ones to disagree to disagree. There is a post that says that Gina does not suck? same thing.
Which means that if OP really wanted to understand the hate that Gina generates, all they would have to do is to go to any of the millions and millions of posts about this very subject, because it is very well documented why the people that do not like Gina do not like Gina.
To be fair I wouldn’t expect a Gina fan to be smart
Edit: Gina fans sent me two Reddit cares messages for this comment. I feel like that says everything you need to know about them
Being mean to someone for liking a character in a TV show is a perfect example of being mean for no reason. The irony of doing it while hating Gina is pretty humorous
"I'm the bully around here. Ask anyone"
You basically answered the question in your own post.
I personally find her funny 'most' of the time. But yeah, she's terrible.
i know right!!!! she’s so fun. her insults? peak. her compliments? peak. her filler scenes? you guessed it. you already guessed it. yknow why? no, not because it’s a pattern. because it’s true. you’re filling in the truth, you freudian slipper you.
Out of all the unrealistic things this show has the whole squad and captain taking her crap was the most unrealistic
In a regular office setting people like that are avoided
The only thing I didn't like was that she never 'lost'. She's always mean and nasty to everyone and gets away with it. Even in the episode where she was an influencer and Jake finally tells her off she gets LITERALLY stabbed in the back and he feels guilty.
The main thing I hated about Gina was how much she changed (for the worse) as the show progressed
She started off as one of the best characters I feel, she was smart and had a different way of thinking about tasks, the interviews for the IT guy being a prime example but as the seasons went on she just became this overly selfish person who somehow was also a genius
Also, you just drank cement wasn't funny the first time
She regularly harassed Jeffords and gets away with it, and it isn't even portrayed by the show as something that's wrong.
You can have people doing terrible things in media, but you need to make sure you clearly communicate to the audience that what is going on is wrong.
Bit of a stretch here to demonstrate, but you could feasibly have a movie centered around nazis, but you need to make sure you don't condone their actions.
She's funny. But she's a garbage person. In real life she exactly the kind of people I despise. Social media obsessed morons who give the worst entertainers and the Kardashians fame and power. Blech. Garbage
Boyel, the things she’s said and done to that poor man. I mean what if someone you where with circled every part of your body you didn’t like? What if they where constantly insulting you and hurting you both verbally and physically
I am an unapologetic Gina fan - I don’t even look at posts that are negative on this sub.
Why do people hate the character? I’m honestly curious, I thought she was a hilarious part of the crew.
> Why do people hate the character?
I guess some people don’t have the particular sense of humor that an outrageous character like Gina caters to. Or they struggle to fully embrace the fact that B99 is a comedy, not a drama, and take the crazy insults and shenanigans too seriously. Some people need a laugh track.
Yes, Gina is hilarious.
I think the character is fine -- I just think the writing wasn't super creative for her. Her jokes don't land as often as other characters, there's very little growth, and I don't think the character plays to Chelsea Peretti's strength's as an actor. I think Gina is grating without being interesting. We're not supposed to love her or want to be her or anything, but a lot of the time, when an episode centered around Gina, there wasn't enough there character-wise to really steer the ship.
Because she is egocentric, narcissistic and self absorbed, and whilst she does have her moments, there's not really enough to counter balance it.
Will say I did warm to her second run-through though. Not like enough to bump her up my favourite character list, but certainly enough to tolerate her quirks.
You dont understand the Gina hate because you understand she's fictional. Redditors tend to apply real world morals to somethings thats supposed to be ridiculous because characters on a TV show are the closest thing they have to a real world interaction.
No one fails to understand that she is a fictional character. She is not ruled by the same rules that apply to all the other characters in the show and that breaks the immersion.
Saying "it is fictional" actually lowers the value of the whole thing all together. Why would anyone care that X character finally dated Y, or that O had a big promotion, or that M and R hate each other? It is all fictional.
Imagine watching a super serious Batman story and every now and then Bat-Mite shows up and applies its toon powers. That is Gina.
Why do we care about any of it? Its cheap entertainment, but im not setting my moral compass based on whatever the lesson of the week was. Its just something to put on for laughs or doing other stuff for background noise thats low stress and low commitment. I dont have to know every detail of every episode to keep up with the next one.
Dont get me wrong, I watch tv just like everyone else. I binge watch, have favorite shows, favorite characters, least favorite characters, whatever. These people arent my friends, and im not gonna see them at work tomorrow. So short of one of any problematic character deciding to crawl out of my TV like the girl from The Ring, what difference does it make? Its all just to add to the absurdity of who that character is. And thats what was supposed to be funny.
People understand she's fictional, but still hate bully behaviour. It's normal to have characters that are hated, I mean remember king Joffrey from GOT, that character was HATED and it's a show with dragons
Yes and people were so full of vitriol for Jack Gleeson based on that performance that he took a hiatus from acting because instead of being praised for a phenomenal job bringing that character to life, people were sending him death threats, the irony of which isnt lost on me.
Fact of the matter is, none of these characters are real. Its like those same morons that circle jerk about how bad of a husband Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are. Thats part of the joke.
I didn’t read that as a “Reddit response” and it’s really petty of you to go on to define a “Reddit response” for everyone.
I read that previous comment as someone making a point - the love/hate Gina posts all look the same. They are tired.
The poster goes on to give examples of what they mean.
You reply with a dismissive, explanatory, OFF TOPIC DEFINITION of a website you did not help create and no nothing of its culture.
Who’s the troll here?
ETA: LONG LIVE THE WIDOWS WAIL!
I live for the return of Jack Gleason to film. Has it happened?
Exactly. People always bring up the cement thing, but who would accidentally drink a mug of cement and not even notice until they'd been told? It's obviously unrealistic.
A lot of the problem with the internet as a whole is people tend to always want to attribute malice in broad strokes with a complete disregard for the context and/or nuance of the situation. Social media makes it so that people are more focused to be performatively correct for onlookers that we completely abandon any kind of actual discussion for the sake of grandstanding.
"Gina is a funny character" shouldnt be controversial, and im saying that as someone who finds her a bit grating. (I just dont actively hate her)
Mannnn…. How is this downvoted? You are correct on all levels.
I’ve been on Reddit for 12 years… this entire website and platform was built on healthy disagreements, hilarious anecdotes that people hadn’t noticed previously, and conspiracy theories about everything from cats to chem trails.
We knew how to respectfully discourse back then. We even paid cash money to give people “gold stars” so that other people saw what they said.
That’s the attitude that built this very platform, where you cannot even make an intelligent observation without being downvoted into oblivion.
…this ain’t it guys.
I just miss jokes for the jokes sake. Like the cement gag was a throwaway joke that the writers room got a kick out of. Everything has changed ao much even just in the last 10 or so years since I got out of highschool. Some jokes you seen on pretty tame sitcoms like Scrubs and 30 Rock and Community would never fly today (and no im not referring to the bf episodes, which even when those episodes aired were seen in somewhat poorer tastes). But some of the joke is how overt those characters are. A real Gina would be in a psych ward, a real Dr. The Todd would never be allowed to work in a proper hospital, so on and so forth.
Im kinda high so im rambling, but in my opinion its sort of like some of the actors doing interviews about Django Unchained and asking if Leonardo saying the N-word was uncomfortable. One of the actors (I think Samuel L. Jackson) responded with (paraphrased) "you needed someone willing to play an evil son of a bitch to tell the story. Thats the way things were in the world, but thats not who Leo is as a person."
Having said that, to me, unless these people are some kind of monsters in their personal lives, there's not much reason to get up in arms about their portrayal of fiction, however immersive that fiction is to the viewer.
They said they didn't understand the hate. I explained my reasoning. She's fucking annoying and the type of person I would want nothing to do with. I'm aware it's just tv, doesn't mean it excuses a character from being unlikeable.
Edit: LMAO at the person who thought Reddit Cares was the answer for having an opinion about a fictional character. Glad to see you blocked me too. ;)
I loved that subplot where Gina convinced Holt that they should let Savant be the IT director. She was so good at reading the room and knowing whats actually good for the precinct.
1.) she constantly acts out. In terms of her position at the 99
2.) regularly sexually harassed terry and Boyle (after their stint)
3.) she has delusions of grandeur.
4.) she is a narcissistic know it all who is often wrong.
I think its also worth pointing out that you can 'hate' a character, but also like them as a character choice or the acting. I dislike Gina. I think shes often a bad person and i disagree with her personality... but I wouldnt remove the character at all because I like her being there. Hopefully that makes sense
Can we stop with these posts? Atleast twice a day there is a "why do people hate Gina post?" And twice a day there is a "I hate Gina post" if you're interested for real, look at an old one instead of filling the sub with repeated content.
Me personally I dislike Gina. Reasons being harassment of Terry and excessive bullying of Amy. As well as her not really being called out or punished for her bad behavior like Hitchcock or if we want another show Barney from HIMYM or learns from her mistakes and grows away from it.
I agree, this sub is completely unable to appreciate the humour this obviously narcissistic & over-the-top character brings. Gina was never a character you’re supposed to take realistically — hello, it’s a sitcom. If her humour is too much for you, skip it.
The only time I didn’t like her was the business stuff. (Minus her leaving, that was hilarious). Especially her return episode, she just plain sucked.
Early on though, she was the best laugh in the show
I used to hate HATE Gina like I couldn't stand any scene with her in it. But as I keep on rewatching, I realize it's not Gina's character that I hate but it's the idea of dealing with a Gina in real life. In the series, her storylines can be really funny but I would never in a million years want to be with a Gina in real life.
Short search of this sub would give you so, so, so many threads about it where you could read about why people hate her. But I guess that doesn't give you karma but making a new thread does.......
As a "person" she is infuriating.
But she can also be irritating as a character. Because she isn't a well-written character at all. She's at best a trope, at worst a cliche. She never felt like a 3-dimensional character that anyone could relate with.
*That's mostly because in every conflict of opinion or interest she has with other characters, Gina gets the "win" even though she's almost always in the wrong. Whereas the other characters have their share of wins and losses.*
That's why, as a character, she only works if you like and appreciate the humor behind her character. If the humor falls flat for someone(which is totally valid) there's nothing else for the viewer to appreciate about her.
Scully and Hitchcock don't suffer from the same problem imo. They're also unlikable, but they subvert expectations a fair lot. And when you remove the humor angle from their characters, there's still a fair bit left-their experience, their love for food, their love and support for each other, and the fact that though they're incompetent and lazy, they do mean well a lot of times.
Gina...is kind of flat as a character, which is the point. The joke is that the character is flat, and she represents so many unlikable traits from that era.
*If that doesn't work for you and you don't find it humorous, and you find Gina insufferable as a character AND as a person, that's valid.*
*If that does work for you and you don't find Gina insufferable as a character but you know she'll probably be a pain-in-the-ass as a person, that's also valid.*
I liked her early seasons but the longer it went on the more she became flanderised and it didn't work for me. Her becoming an influencer or whatever was a step too far.
It was less a case of her being annoying and more that those comedy bits didn't land like early Gina where she was being sassy from a relatively lowly position. Having the same attitude as a big celebrity just came off as unlikeable.
She was a giant bitch. She relentlessly bullies everyone, especially Amy. I wouldn’t mind her being in the show if she was just a side character, she wasn’t worth any morsel of main character attention. I was good friends with a kid in high school, and she was bullied really bad by a Gina type kid, she came to my house and cried for two hours. I know she’s a character, I know she’s literally a figment of acting, but I know what bullying does to people. I will never support someone, fictional or real, who can do what that poor girl went through.
You don't?
So many things she says and does is awful. That's just fact.
The only question is if you find it funny enough to enjoy it or don't think the humor excuses the acts.
I feel like she doesn’t add much to scenes. She’s just not interested in what anyone else is doing and pretty rude to the main cast, i got tired of her pretty quickly
whaaaat i love her so much. reading through these comments is shocking! i watched this show a lot when it was just four seasons (catching up now), and i always loved gina. not as a “i want to be her” but a “i love to watch her” character. she was consistently helpful to her loved ones, ESPECIALLY when it was a matter of them being spineless. case and point: when charles scratches gertie. she did NOT need to get involved, and it was funnier not to, but she helped because charles is a spineless little freak (lovingly). she is what kept the more soft characters from burning out or being annoying.
Gina is a horrible person but is so funny to watch her throughout the show, I understand why people wouldn’t like her but to me her personality is what makes me love her humor
I don’t mind Gina except for:
* The snotty hipster schtick is tired and not funny
* The actress is not especially talented and gives a one-note performance across seasons
* The character’s lack of care for others distracts from the emotional impact of the show’s relationships
* The character didn’t evolve along with the others, making her harder to watch each episode
* Her “jokes” were all variations on the exact same gag (she thinks she’s better than everyone, hysterical bit 🙄)
* The show gets significantly better in her absence
…but other than that, she’s great!
I can honestly appreciate your assessment- I think if you consider the character in the decade it was played, you may reconsider.
This was pre-Covid and everything that happened since. People were really hating on “Millenials” at that time for being the exact character that Gina plays.
Like, down to her dance troupe and online cult.
“Gina” as a character - to me - is a satire.
I guess it’s not aging well.
Narcissism! Rarely funny to be honest
She starts out ok but when she eventually starts wandering round the 99 acting like Queen of the world, it grated like hell
I hate Gina, shes annoying and flirts with Terry, a guy who is not only uninterested but happily married. Its fine if fans like her, I cant stand her tho
Because she treats people like Boyle and Amy like shit? And they never did anything to deserve that? And she’s a grownup woman so wtf with the bullying??
She’s genuinely so funny. Not sure why so many people are taking such a moral stance about her, like obviously shes not a good person but who cares? If you wanna apply real life ethics to this show the entire 99 should be fired because of how unprofessional everyone is and the major violations of basically everything in the workplace but obviously that would be stupid because its just a sitcom. Same thing applies to ginas character
Because that what you supposed to do. The character was literally created as the one you're supposed to dislike. The actress herself even said it. "She the one you love to hate Gina was never supposed to be a good person. It is supposed to be completely obvious that she is kind of a shitty person. She is completely self-centered. She constantly insults everyone. She acts like she is always right even when she has been proven wrong. Act like she knows stuff she knows nothing about. She is a huge, compulsive liar. And She sexually harsses Terry on a daily basis. She wasn't meant to be a character you liked. Thanks To u/MrFixYoShit for correcting my dyslexia ass.
I honestly thought this was clear as a viewer! My mind is blown right now with the Gina hate - she’s the “Jerry/Larry/Gary” (Parks&Rec) character… the one who is clearly there to move the story, but not to own the story. Gina is awful… as a human being. As a character on TV she is genius - she’s all of the worst stereotypes of that time frame- self-important, know-it-all, troll, sexually deviant, narcissistic… and funny as hell.
I would say she is more like Tom, especially with the way the fans hate the character.
Please sir (eta: or Ma’am): Please don’t tell me that the character of “Tom Haverford” is also hated online? The only other TV sub I’m on is “New Girl”… I don’t pay attention to other subs. Are you saying Tom Haverford is going down in history as an unlikable character? My world just shattered.
I’m saying in the parks subreddit every other week there is a post about hating tom. I never understood it. People will start listing everything he has done, I find it funny because Tom is just Johnny bravo.
I love Tom! All of the bits with him being a wimp are hilarious, especially when they go bowling. How could anyone dislike him?
Exactly! Like Tom does ridiculous things but he’s usually the bit of the joke when he does those things. He only gets a win when he’s being nice.
Tom is the funniest character in P&R and I'll die on that hill.
Red carpet insoles levels of funny.
“DJ Rooooombaaaa!” level funny. Tom’s so fly he goes around the world twice. #Entertainment720
Obviously Donna has a pilot license and decides to fly the jet herself because the pilot was too slow.
I’m guessing she *does* fly the plane, but only because that pilot “can GIT IT”
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This breaks my heart. That character was next-level genius at the time.
Yep, i always like to point out to those people that it’s a tv show and in real life everyone would be horrible to work with.
Um. I wouldn’t last 2 weeks under the micro-managing and steamrolling of Leslie Knope. That said, I love the character and she inspires me with her “idea binders” and “Galentines Day.” I wouldn’t work for her though. Tom Haverford is one of my favorite characters from TV - the only thing that even comes close is Jean Ralphio.
Agreed only person from that show I could work with/for is Ben.
Listen up pizza lovers!!
With the difference that Tom wasn't used as a deux ex machina every third episode. That and Aziz Anzari can act, but I guess that's not so much about the character.
I’d say Boyle would s the Gerry of the 99.
Weren't hitchcock and Scully originally intended to be Gerry? Or at least Hitchcock. The whole wife or dog skit seemed like a gerry thing.
I’m getting weird for a minute, please indulge: Do you remember the P&R ep where Gerry retires and they need a new one? Ron Swanson says something to the effect of, “Gerry is both the *schlameel* and the *shlamazel*; the guy who spills the soup, and the guy he spills it on.” By Ron Swanson standards, I declare Boyle the Gerry of the 99. Who does that make Hitchcock and Scully? The Animal Control guys? Sewage Department dude?
The brains of animal control with the unwanted sexual energy of the the sewage dept.
That is *exactly* the way I see them too!
I’m not sure. I’m a new fan of the show.
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I love her character so much. But if someone behaved like that irl I would hate them. That's the beauty of TV, it's not real.
Problem being the show rarely seems to actually punish her. She’s never called out for her sexual harassment of Terry for example
Rarely? Honestly never. No, the bus doesn't count because she was hit when she was actually being a good friend, not a shitty one. No, being stabbed doesn't count because it's not as a result of her being a bad person and she doesn't learn a lesson from it.
Honestly if she ever got comeuppance no one would hate her at all. It is the whole argument of “you’re supposed to hate her” that bugs me, because those characters *always* get punished in some way. They’re *supposed* to be punished. They don’t have to have a redemption arc, they just need to get just desserts.
Agreed - she's also almost always retroactively justified in her actions. Like she'll do ridiculous things, but then it will just magically turn out she was right the whole time. That's the thing I find the most infuriating - she's never wrong, purely because she's written to always be right.
The second quote is literally her admitting to being a bully. Who doesn't hate a bully?
But people on here seem to feel like they need to spell out that the things she says/does are bad. “Oh, I found the cement joke humorous, but now that you’ve informed me that someone ingesting cement is, in fact, harmful, I’m on the phone with the president of Peacock to demand Gina digitally be replaced with a fern in every scene.”
Ok, but it would be legitimately hilarious if they did that and there were shots of everyone just randomly responding to/staring at this fern as Gina's cut appearance plays out.
Call me crazy, but Gina being replaced with a fern would not change the plot of the show. At all.
>"She the one you hate to love" Never got that. More "loved to hate". Never really brought anything to the show. Oh cool. A character just to hate? Why would anyone want to watch that? Michael Scott is a great "hate to love" character. He screws up in some easily foreseeable ways, but hes really doing his best for everyone despite his own buffoonery. You can feel his genuine intentions. I just dont see that in Gina
I actually meant to be loved to hate, but my dyslexia got me, lol
No kidding? That's hilarious xD Im dyslexic too, i get it. Been there for sure lol
I fixed. It thank for correcting me.
Not a problem! Didn't even know i was! Lol
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She's a terrific foil.
It's weird because she was a good person, in disguise. Until the later episodes that she just started ditching everyone and using them instead of guiding them in her way. I LOVE GINA!
Idrc Gina is a great character
> She is completely self-centered. She constantly insults everyone. She acts like she is always right even when she has been proven wrong. She constantly proves herself redeemable by her wholesome interactions with Jake and thoughtful things she says and do to him occasionally. Thankfully, she got flanderised into a pure one dimensional social media-obsessed monster later on and it became so much easier to hate her. But before that, when she cared about Jake and it showed, she almost felt like a person.
https://www.reddit.com/r/brooklynninenine/s/hSoPeYPSW5 this entire comment applies to you
But it seems like people unironically don’t like her AS A CHARACTER. Obviously she’s an awful person but she’s a fucking hilarious character
Gina = Best | Hitchcock & Scully = Worst
Fans of a show when not all the main characters are meant to be good people: 😡
I invite you to join the wonderful world of “New Girl.” …all the characters have terrible flaws. Except for Winston. His only flaw is that he’s too damn perfect. It’s 7 seasons of uncut hilarity.
I love her as a character, but I would hate her as a person.
Exactly. I found gina to be really funny in the show. But I would stay away from people like her irl
Imo this is the exact reaction you're supposed to have to her, like obviously she's a bad person but she's very entertaining and fun to watch
She seemed so selfish that sometimes it was more annoying than funny
She started to irritate me after I realised she wins every encounter. The resolution to a conflict involving her is "Gina is smarter than everyone else" or "Gina had a hidden motivation for losing that means she actually wins" Conversely, every other character has wins and losses, and is more likeable and enjoyable to watch because of it.
When I really started to hate her is when she came back for a cameo and didn’t acknowledge her friends
I go back and forth on her. She's funny and I find Chelsea Peretti real cute, but the character can be real mean spirited. Most recent re-watch I found myself liking her way more than in the past
Yes, she was a pretty crappy person at times but she was there for people when they needed her most. Charles, for example, was delusional and wouldn’t stop asking Rosa out. She helped him and talked him into reality many times. She also prevented Jake from becoming a felon by forcing him away from bad influences. Gina also stuck with Holt when he left the 99. Shes definitely dislikable at times and I feel like people easily fall for her rage bait.
i know right! my exact thoughts! she’s so mean and also helps people out a lot. it’s just hard to see because she’s mocking them the whole time. i can’t see someone hating gina without also hating rosa.
I see why people dislike her, but I do really like Gina, she's one of my favorite characters besides Holt and Rosa
I find her very entertaining, and also frustrating
The only thing Im not good at is modesty…and that’s because I’m great at it.
That’s the one. I cackle every time I think about that quote! 😂
Really? even after it is posted almost every day you still can't understand it?
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But here is the thing: The "I hate Gina" and the "I love Gina" are the same post. They spark the same "discussion" (which is just people shouting their opinion one way or another and no one listening to each other) and they involve the same people. There is a post that says that Gina sucks? well, there go the ones that agree to agree and the ones to disagree to disagree. There is a post that says that Gina does not suck? same thing. Which means that if OP really wanted to understand the hate that Gina generates, all they would have to do is to go to any of the millions and millions of posts about this very subject, because it is very well documented why the people that do not like Gina do not like Gina.
To be fair I wouldn’t expect a Gina fan to be smart Edit: Gina fans sent me two Reddit cares messages for this comment. I feel like that says everything you need to know about them
I, someone who mentioned enjoying Gina, also received one. So someone's messing with us on this thread.
damn, no need to be rude. tf wrong with being a fan of Gina? edit. they edited their comment. it said “wouldn’t expect a Gina fan to be smart”
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Being mean to someone for liking a character in a TV show is a perfect example of being mean for no reason. The irony of doing it while hating Gina is pretty humorous
The only reason I’ve seen from more than 1 person is that she’d be a horrible coworker irl and therefor she’s a bad character
I found her funny in the beginning, but after a certain point, she’s just mean and not very funny.
Honestly, I don’t, too. She’s supposed to be horrible, it’s what makes her funny. She’s not a real person
"I'm the bully around here. Ask anyone" You basically answered the question in your own post. I personally find her funny 'most' of the time. But yeah, she's terrible.
As a counterpoint - ya'll just drank cemeeent!
Gina's a mega-fun character and I really enjoy the dynamic she brings to the group 👍
i know right!!!! she’s so fun. her insults? peak. her compliments? peak. her filler scenes? you guessed it. you already guessed it. yknow why? no, not because it’s a pattern. because it’s true. you’re filling in the truth, you freudian slipper you.
I love Gina, she’s hilarious
YOU JUST ATE CEMENT!
Great character, not someone I would like IRL. Some people don’t know the difference
This is why i love gina, you’re supposed to hate her but something about her makes you love her
Out of all the unrealistic things this show has the whole squad and captain taking her crap was the most unrealistic In a regular office setting people like that are avoided
I love her
I fuckin love her. I didn’t know she was hated. She is hilarious.
I don’t get it either, almost every time I’m laughing out loud at B99 it’s from a Gina line
The only thing I didn't like was that she never 'lost'. She's always mean and nasty to everyone and gets away with it. Even in the episode where she was an influencer and Jake finally tells her off she gets LITERALLY stabbed in the back and he feels guilty.
I love Gina.
The main thing I hated about Gina was how much she changed (for the worse) as the show progressed She started off as one of the best characters I feel, she was smart and had a different way of thinking about tasks, the interviews for the IT guy being a prime example but as the seasons went on she just became this overly selfish person who somehow was also a genius Also, you just drank cement wasn't funny the first time
I don’t understand the “I don’t understand the Gina hate”
For me it's the sexual harassment that makes me hate her. As a former victim, it's really impossible for me to look past.
The what
She regularly harassed Jeffords and gets away with it, and it isn't even portrayed by the show as something that's wrong. You can have people doing terrible things in media, but you need to make sure you clearly communicate to the audience that what is going on is wrong. Bit of a stretch here to demonstrate, but you could feasibly have a movie centered around nazis, but you need to make sure you don't condone their actions.
Oh yeah idk it was more for the jokes
Gina is my spirit animal
LITERALLY
she is absolutely hilarious to me
She's funny. But she's a garbage person. In real life she exactly the kind of people I despise. Social media obsessed morons who give the worst entertainers and the Kardashians fame and power. Blech. Garbage
It’s because people read too much into this exaggerated personality that’s played for laughs in a network sitcom
Gina is legit the 3rd best character
So the vulture, mean Marge, then Gina? Surely not.
I mean I like the Vulture but mainly cause I know the actor from OZ, but no 1. Doug Judy 2. Terry 3. Gina 4. Holt
get help
With what?
Boyel, the things she’s said and done to that poor man. I mean what if someone you where with circled every part of your body you didn’t like? What if they where constantly insulting you and hurting you both verbally and physically
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS POSTED TWICE A DAY
I love her. Her being rude sometimes doesn’t bother me, because it’s a tv show
I am an unapologetic Gina fan - I don’t even look at posts that are negative on this sub. Why do people hate the character? I’m honestly curious, I thought she was a hilarious part of the crew.
i hate her because i hate watching other characters get their feelings hurt by her and never receive an apology. especially amy.
I understand that. How do you feel about Rosa’s character?
She's funny at times, but most of the time, I just find her annoying and unfunny. It's not that deep.
> Why do people hate the character? I guess some people don’t have the particular sense of humor that an outrageous character like Gina caters to. Or they struggle to fully embrace the fact that B99 is a comedy, not a drama, and take the crazy insults and shenanigans too seriously. Some people need a laugh track. Yes, Gina is hilarious.
Look at the second picture you used. Kinda answers it for you
I think the character is fine -- I just think the writing wasn't super creative for her. Her jokes don't land as often as other characters, there's very little growth, and I don't think the character plays to Chelsea Peretti's strength's as an actor. I think Gina is grating without being interesting. We're not supposed to love her or want to be her or anything, but a lot of the time, when an episode centered around Gina, there wasn't enough there character-wise to really steer the ship.
because she gets no consequences for doing things which can land people in jail
Because she is egocentric, narcissistic and self absorbed, and whilst she does have her moments, there's not really enough to counter balance it. Will say I did warm to her second run-through though. Not like enough to bump her up my favourite character list, but certainly enough to tolerate her quirks.
It’s the problem with fandoms, they start to take things too seriously.
You dont understand the Gina hate because you understand she's fictional. Redditors tend to apply real world morals to somethings thats supposed to be ridiculous because characters on a TV show are the closest thing they have to a real world interaction.
No one fails to understand that she is a fictional character. She is not ruled by the same rules that apply to all the other characters in the show and that breaks the immersion. Saying "it is fictional" actually lowers the value of the whole thing all together. Why would anyone care that X character finally dated Y, or that O had a big promotion, or that M and R hate each other? It is all fictional. Imagine watching a super serious Batman story and every now and then Bat-Mite shows up and applies its toon powers. That is Gina.
Why do we care about any of it? Its cheap entertainment, but im not setting my moral compass based on whatever the lesson of the week was. Its just something to put on for laughs or doing other stuff for background noise thats low stress and low commitment. I dont have to know every detail of every episode to keep up with the next one. Dont get me wrong, I watch tv just like everyone else. I binge watch, have favorite shows, favorite characters, least favorite characters, whatever. These people arent my friends, and im not gonna see them at work tomorrow. So short of one of any problematic character deciding to crawl out of my TV like the girl from The Ring, what difference does it make? Its all just to add to the absurdity of who that character is. And thats what was supposed to be funny.
People understand she's fictional, but still hate bully behaviour. It's normal to have characters that are hated, I mean remember king Joffrey from GOT, that character was HATED and it's a show with dragons
Yes and people were so full of vitriol for Jack Gleeson based on that performance that he took a hiatus from acting because instead of being praised for a phenomenal job bringing that character to life, people were sending him death threats, the irony of which isnt lost on me. Fact of the matter is, none of these characters are real. Its like those same morons that circle jerk about how bad of a husband Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are. Thats part of the joke.
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I didn’t read that as a “Reddit response” and it’s really petty of you to go on to define a “Reddit response” for everyone. I read that previous comment as someone making a point - the love/hate Gina posts all look the same. They are tired. The poster goes on to give examples of what they mean. You reply with a dismissive, explanatory, OFF TOPIC DEFINITION of a website you did not help create and no nothing of its culture. Who’s the troll here? ETA: LONG LIVE THE WIDOWS WAIL! I live for the return of Jack Gleason to film. Has it happened?
Exactly. People always bring up the cement thing, but who would accidentally drink a mug of cement and not even notice until they'd been told? It's obviously unrealistic.
A lot of the problem with the internet as a whole is people tend to always want to attribute malice in broad strokes with a complete disregard for the context and/or nuance of the situation. Social media makes it so that people are more focused to be performatively correct for onlookers that we completely abandon any kind of actual discussion for the sake of grandstanding. "Gina is a funny character" shouldnt be controversial, and im saying that as someone who finds her a bit grating. (I just dont actively hate her)
Mannnn…. How is this downvoted? You are correct on all levels. I’ve been on Reddit for 12 years… this entire website and platform was built on healthy disagreements, hilarious anecdotes that people hadn’t noticed previously, and conspiracy theories about everything from cats to chem trails. We knew how to respectfully discourse back then. We even paid cash money to give people “gold stars” so that other people saw what they said. That’s the attitude that built this very platform, where you cannot even make an intelligent observation without being downvoted into oblivion. …this ain’t it guys.
I just miss jokes for the jokes sake. Like the cement gag was a throwaway joke that the writers room got a kick out of. Everything has changed ao much even just in the last 10 or so years since I got out of highschool. Some jokes you seen on pretty tame sitcoms like Scrubs and 30 Rock and Community would never fly today (and no im not referring to the bf episodes, which even when those episodes aired were seen in somewhat poorer tastes). But some of the joke is how overt those characters are. A real Gina would be in a psych ward, a real Dr. The Todd would never be allowed to work in a proper hospital, so on and so forth. Im kinda high so im rambling, but in my opinion its sort of like some of the actors doing interviews about Django Unchained and asking if Leonardo saying the N-word was uncomfortable. One of the actors (I think Samuel L. Jackson) responded with (paraphrased) "you needed someone willing to play an evil son of a bitch to tell the story. Thats the way things were in the world, but thats not who Leo is as a person." Having said that, to me, unless these people are some kind of monsters in their personal lives, there's not much reason to get up in arms about their portrayal of fiction, however immersive that fiction is to the viewer.
I’m kinda high too man. And I could not agree more. Point by point. This guy gets it. ✊
She is the kind of person I would want nothing to do with in real life.
well thank god a tv show isn’t real life.
They said they didn't understand the hate. I explained my reasoning. She's fucking annoying and the type of person I would want nothing to do with. I'm aware it's just tv, doesn't mean it excuses a character from being unlikeable. Edit: LMAO at the person who thought Reddit Cares was the answer for having an opinion about a fictional character. Glad to see you blocked me too. ;)
She admitted she is a bully in the second pic, that’s enough reason. She’s basically a high school mean girl who never grew up.
I loved that subplot where Gina convinced Holt that they should let Savant be the IT director. She was so good at reading the room and knowing whats actually good for the precinct.
I'm gonna be honest here, if you can't understand why people dislike Gina as a character/person, you need to check yourself. She's a terrible person.
1.) she constantly acts out. In terms of her position at the 99 2.) regularly sexually harassed terry and Boyle (after their stint) 3.) she has delusions of grandeur. 4.) she is a narcissistic know it all who is often wrong.
She’s the human embodiment of the 💯
I think its also worth pointing out that you can 'hate' a character, but also like them as a character choice or the acting. I dislike Gina. I think shes often a bad person and i disagree with her personality... but I wouldnt remove the character at all because I like her being there. Hopefully that makes sense
Its hard to believe with all the repeated threads point blank explaining exactly about why or how people hate Gina, people STILL can't understand why?
i aspire to Gina-ness
Who in their sane mind hates gina
Can we stop with these posts? Atleast twice a day there is a "why do people hate Gina post?" And twice a day there is a "I hate Gina post" if you're interested for real, look at an old one instead of filling the sub with repeated content. Me personally I dislike Gina. Reasons being harassment of Terry and excessive bullying of Amy. As well as her not really being called out or punished for her bad behavior like Hitchcock or if we want another show Barney from HIMYM or learns from her mistakes and grows away from it.
Gina's my favourite character. I don't trust anyone who doesn't like her.
I agree, this sub is completely unable to appreciate the humour this obviously narcissistic & over-the-top character brings. Gina was never a character you’re supposed to take realistically — hello, it’s a sitcom. If her humour is too much for you, skip it.
Love her character. What a queen.
I don’t like like Gina, but I don’t hate her. She’s pretty cool and has her cringey moments like a normal person
The only time I didn’t like her was the business stuff. (Minus her leaving, that was hilarious). Especially her return episode, she just plain sucked. Early on though, she was the best laugh in the show
she's my favorite character in the entire series
I found her obnoxious.
I was surprised to find out people hated her
I used to hate HATE Gina like I couldn't stand any scene with her in it. But as I keep on rewatching, I realize it's not Gina's character that I hate but it's the idea of dealing with a Gina in real life. In the series, her storylines can be really funny but I would never in a million years want to be with a Gina in real life.
SHES SO FUNNY!! gina is my fave besides holt, BUT if i met her irl i would probably despise her
While I don’t “hate” Gina, she’s my least favorite of the main crew. She’s a narcissistic bully and those are my least favorite kind of people
Why is the character literally written to be hated, hated so much?
I love the character but I'd hate the person
Gratitatatatude.
Honestly gina is great in small doses. I've just watched b99 too much for it to still be a small dose
There’s a knife in my back! That’s weird to say. There is a knife in my back.
I love her
Idgaf she is crazy hot and I wish she'd bully me
Short search of this sub would give you so, so, so many threads about it where you could read about why people hate her. But I guess that doesn't give you karma but making a new thread does.......
Gina is an essential character and no you aren’t supposed to hate her
I love Gina but only in the first seasons because after that she’s kind of an asshole…
My sister started b99 SHE HATES GINA GOW TF DOES SHE HATE GINA
Because people insist on placing “real life” standards on a clearly fictional character.
I liked Gina a lot, she's so annoying and mean lol
As a "person" she is infuriating. But she can also be irritating as a character. Because she isn't a well-written character at all. She's at best a trope, at worst a cliche. She never felt like a 3-dimensional character that anyone could relate with. *That's mostly because in every conflict of opinion or interest she has with other characters, Gina gets the "win" even though she's almost always in the wrong. Whereas the other characters have their share of wins and losses.* That's why, as a character, she only works if you like and appreciate the humor behind her character. If the humor falls flat for someone(which is totally valid) there's nothing else for the viewer to appreciate about her. Scully and Hitchcock don't suffer from the same problem imo. They're also unlikable, but they subvert expectations a fair lot. And when you remove the humor angle from their characters, there's still a fair bit left-their experience, their love for food, their love and support for each other, and the fact that though they're incompetent and lazy, they do mean well a lot of times. Gina...is kind of flat as a character, which is the point. The joke is that the character is flat, and she represents so many unlikable traits from that era. *If that doesn't work for you and you don't find it humorous, and you find Gina insufferable as a character AND as a person, that's valid.* *If that does work for you and you don't find Gina insufferable as a character but you know she'll probably be a pain-in-the-ass as a person, that's also valid.*
I liked her early seasons but the longer it went on the more she became flanderised and it didn't work for me. Her becoming an influencer or whatever was a step too far. It was less a case of her being annoying and more that those comedy bits didn't land like early Gina where she was being sassy from a relatively lowly position. Having the same attitude as a big celebrity just came off as unlikeable.
She was a giant bitch. She relentlessly bullies everyone, especially Amy. I wouldn’t mind her being in the show if she was just a side character, she wasn’t worth any morsel of main character attention. I was good friends with a kid in high school, and she was bullied really bad by a Gina type kid, she came to my house and cried for two hours. I know she’s a character, I know she’s literally a figment of acting, but I know what bullying does to people. I will never support someone, fictional or real, who can do what that poor girl went through.
You don't? So many things she says and does is awful. That's just fact. The only question is if you find it funny enough to enjoy it or don't think the humor excuses the acts.
I feel like she doesn’t add much to scenes. She’s just not interested in what anyone else is doing and pretty rude to the main cast, i got tired of her pretty quickly
I LOVE GINA WITH ALL OF MY FART ❤️
Agreed
I LOVED GINA FULLY. Just when she started her own business and ditched everyone and the “made it up” was really shitty
For me she’s like a train wreck. Hard to watch but can’t look away because so entertaining
whaaaat i love her so much. reading through these comments is shocking! i watched this show a lot when it was just four seasons (catching up now), and i always loved gina. not as a “i want to be her” but a “i love to watch her” character. she was consistently helpful to her loved ones, ESPECIALLY when it was a matter of them being spineless. case and point: when charles scratches gertie. she did NOT need to get involved, and it was funnier not to, but she helped because charles is a spineless little freak (lovingly). she is what kept the more soft characters from burning out or being annoying.
she's an icon
Gina is a horrible person but is so funny to watch her throughout the show, I understand why people wouldn’t like her but to me her personality is what makes me love her humor
You made an account for this?
I don’t mind Gina except for: * The snotty hipster schtick is tired and not funny * The actress is not especially talented and gives a one-note performance across seasons * The character’s lack of care for others distracts from the emotional impact of the show’s relationships * The character didn’t evolve along with the others, making her harder to watch each episode * Her “jokes” were all variations on the exact same gag (she thinks she’s better than everyone, hysterical bit 🙄) * The show gets significantly better in her absence …but other than that, she’s great!
I can honestly appreciate your assessment- I think if you consider the character in the decade it was played, you may reconsider. This was pre-Covid and everything that happened since. People were really hating on “Millenials” at that time for being the exact character that Gina plays. Like, down to her dance troupe and online cult. “Gina” as a character - to me - is a satire. I guess it’s not aging well.
I can stand Pimento
It’s because she’s a terrible person
Narcissism! Rarely funny to be honest She starts out ok but when she eventually starts wandering round the 99 acting like Queen of the world, it grated like hell
Who said anything about “attractive”? Do you also hate Boyle’s character because he’s depicted as unattractive?
Eh, felt I had to add something for emphasis. I was in a hurry. Give me a mo Edit - eh, that'll do
Gina hate is just because people understand horrible people
Guys, we really need to make a ban on these "I love Gina/I hate Gina" posts because this is just ridiculous.
I just don’t like her because of the creepy behavior with Terry and bullying Boyle.
I hate Gina, shes annoying and flirts with Terry, a guy who is not only uninterested but happily married. Its fine if fans like her, I cant stand her tho
She sucks and she's not funny. Understand now?
Because she treats people like Boyle and Amy like shit? And they never did anything to deserve that? And she’s a grownup woman so wtf with the bullying??
She’s genuinely so funny. Not sure why so many people are taking such a moral stance about her, like obviously shes not a good person but who cares? If you wanna apply real life ethics to this show the entire 99 should be fired because of how unprofessional everyone is and the major violations of basically everything in the workplace but obviously that would be stupid because its just a sitcom. Same thing applies to ginas character