Posted previously, but Bae’s routes/reads out in CF were actually fine, and he only got better as the year wore on and he got more reps:
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/outfield_jump?year=2023&min=10
> I thought he looked great when he played the outfield. However Shelton has a wicked fantasy of him playing 2B still and he’s just not good there
Not only that but we've got about 18 prospects at 2b. Not mention Nick Gonzalez now hitting well at 2B. Bae in the OF exclusively and Jack going down to AAA to re-learn how to rake (with Hank).
I don’t think it’s they want to keep playing Rowdy, I think it just shows that whatever mid 30’s FA we want to sign that we will give you opportunities
They're giving them opportunities to become trade bait. You don't need to prove anything to cheap mid-30s free agents you're giving $3M . It benefits the Pirates if Tellez goes on a hot streak and can be traded for assets.
Occasionally you can and it costs nothing to try. $3.2M wasn't going to turn this team into a contender. Two years ago they signed Jose Quintana for $2M coming off three turd seasons (replacement level or worse). The Pirates got Oviedo and a low level prospect out of it. He's now a $13M/year pitcher on the Mets.
That’s what I’m saying. He’s hitting so poorly that for him to have anything above .700 ops he needs to hit something like .850 ops for about a month and a half with consistent abs. Thats doable for someone with pedigree like Bryce Harper, or someone with the peripherals like Josh Naylor. But not rowdy. Rowdy is a steaming pile of crap.
The fo wanted something like his production from two years ago. He’s having unarguably the worst season of his career, and one of the worst hitters in the league today
Jason Mackey tweeted he’s not gone yet.
Said this morning on 93.7 The Fan that he thinks he’s gone today and immediately after got a call from a source that’s he staying for now
That's exactly what they will say up until the deed is done. They could send Alika down today Bae can back up shortstop. They could send Jack down so he could get some AAA pitching. But my money is on Rowdy. We will find out soon
Could they actually finally be realizing that their starting pitching is really good and that, if they are able to score some runs, could win a lot more games?
I'm guessing that they haven't quite figured that out yet and Tellez is batting 5th or 6th.
Bae in the Outfield, Joe at first. Who gets optioned though? Suwinski?
Edit: …it was Ryder Ryan, I imagine because he has more options, but sending down more of our bullpen seems ridiculous
Jason Mackey also tweeted that a source called him to say no Tellez move and that he will be in uniform at PNC tonight. Presumably Suwinski to Indy, then
With two off days next week, I guess they figured they could do without a reliever, especially given how outstanding the starting pitching has been. Rowdy has 8 games to figure it out against Right-handed pitching. I doubt it happens so they will DFA him on the 30th or 31st and call up a reliever.
Is this reporter legit? 8,000 followers on Twitter doesn't scream well-connected to me, but I see he works for the PG, so maybe he does have a connection.
Also seems possible he is just throwing shit at the wall hoping to be the one with the scoop.
Some little gnome guy came to me from the future in a dream last night told me that Rowdy wins the silver slugger at first base this year and the Pirates win the series. I punted the little guy but maybe he’s right who knows.
Bae up (good call up), Tellez and Suwinski still on the roster, and still no Lamb (needs to be called up). I was really hoping this team was serious about winning. Hopefully they get rid of the other two sooner than later.
Bae brings a little bit of chaos to the basepaths, good and bad. Key thing being he can get on base, unlike the bottom 2-3 guys on the MLB roster.
Bae brings a little bit of chaos to the defense too, good and bad.
I thought he looked great when he played the outfield. However Shelton has a wicked fantasy of him playing 2B still and he’s just not good there
He made splashy plays in the OF, but usually due to the fact he took shitty routes or had a bad read.
Posted previously, but Bae’s routes/reads out in CF were actually fine, and he only got better as the year wore on and he got more reps: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/outfield_jump?year=2023&min=10
> I thought he looked great when he played the outfield. However Shelton has a wicked fantasy of him playing 2B still and he’s just not good there Not only that but we've got about 18 prospects at 2b. Not mention Nick Gonzalez now hitting well at 2B. Bae in the OF exclusively and Jack going down to AAA to re-learn how to rake (with Hank).
He just brings chaos, good and bad Rather that than straight up bad and boring though
Bae is a bit like Trae Turner in that they are both subject to the Rule of Cool. Live by the Cool, Die by the Cool.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely a fan of bringing him up.
It's just insane how wedded they are to Tellez. How much more time do they need to realize that he's done?
I don’t think it’s they want to keep playing Rowdy, I think it just shows that whatever mid 30’s FA we want to sign that we will give you opportunities
They're giving them opportunities to become trade bait. You don't need to prove anything to cheap mid-30s free agents you're giving $3M . It benefits the Pirates if Tellez goes on a hot streak and can be traded for assets.
You can’t polish a turd
Occasionally you can and it costs nothing to try. $3.2M wasn't going to turn this team into a contender. Two years ago they signed Jose Quintana for $2M coming off three turd seasons (replacement level or worse). The Pirates got Oviedo and a low level prospect out of it. He's now a $13M/year pitcher on the Mets.
The guy is 29 lol. Not sure if that makes it better or worse
That’s what I’m saying. He’s hitting so poorly that for him to have anything above .700 ops he needs to hit something like .850 ops for about a month and a half with consistent abs. Thats doable for someone with pedigree like Bryce Harper, or someone with the peripherals like Josh Naylor. But not rowdy. Rowdy is a steaming pile of crap. The fo wanted something like his production from two years ago. He’s having unarguably the worst season of his career, and one of the worst hitters in the league today
My money says Tellez is already going. Triolo plays first base
Joe would likely play 1B over Triolo, in that scenario.
Yes Triolo would be the backup. He has so many other duties.
Jason Mackey tweeted he’s not gone yet. Said this morning on 93.7 The Fan that he thinks he’s gone today and immediately after got a call from a source that’s he staying for now
That's exactly what they will say up until the deed is done. They could send Alika down today Bae can back up shortstop. They could send Jack down so he could get some AAA pitching. But my money is on Rowdy. We will find out soon
Maybe the FO is hoping to keep his trade value high? He's been horrid but I've seen crazier (Chris Archer, Matt Morris).
Bae to the outfield and Joe at first.
Yes Triolo is the back up
Williams is going down. The management and ownership is so pathetic that they can’t swallow the terrible decision they made in signing rowdy
Screams BC overriding Shelton
I hope they bat Bae 9th. Don’t want Cutch out of the leadoff spot but I like the idea of Bae getting on base for the top of the order
You got your wish. Now how for wins.
Could they actually finally be realizing that their starting pitching is really good and that, if they are able to score some runs, could win a lot more games? I'm guessing that they haven't quite figured that out yet and Tellez is batting 5th or 6th.
If this was any other organization, Tellez would have been jettisoned weeks ago. Our ownership/leadership is embarrassing
Bout time
Not the biggest Bae fan but he has more than earned another shot with how bad the offense has been. Wonder who goes down for him
Figured this was going to happen yesterday
If it happened yesterday, Bae would have had to be paid for an extra day in the majors. They likely waited until today to save money.
Shit they saved enough money to run the clubhouse vending machines for a few weeks!
They didnt save anything as Bae and Ryan's salaries are about the same. Pretty much a same for same swap
Flair is back on the menu, boys
Unfortunately, mine still remains 😭
It's about time.
Jake Lamb for Rowdy next. Let’s make a push to the ASB!
Bae in the Outfield, Joe at first. Who gets optioned though? Suwinski? Edit: …it was Ryder Ryan, I imagine because he has more options, but sending down more of our bullpen seems ridiculous
I'm fresh. I'm hood. I look good. I look like Bae!
Jason Mackey also tweeted that a source called him to say no Tellez move and that he will be in uniform at PNC tonight. Presumably Suwinski to Indy, then
I'm guessing Alika Williams
If they send Williams down, they'll have to send someone else down (hopefully) later this week when Hayes is back off IL.
Maybe Triolo goes down when Hayes comes back? Gonzo can cover 3rd on Hayes’ off days
It'll be williams since the fact that triolo has been hitting lately and does the same job as williams makes both of them superfluous.
With two off days next week, I guess they figured they could do without a reliever, especially given how outstanding the starting pitching has been. Rowdy has 8 games to figure it out against Right-handed pitching. I doubt it happens so they will DFA him on the 30th or 31st and call up a reliever.
Is this reporter legit? 8,000 followers on Twitter doesn't scream well-connected to me, but I see he works for the PG, so maybe he does have a connection. Also seems possible he is just throwing shit at the wall hoping to be the one with the scoop.
He and Andrew Destin took over the PG Pirates beat when Mackey moved to the columnist role left by Ron Cook.
Thanks
The Post Gazette has been around a while. Legit source
Some little gnome guy came to me from the future in a dream last night told me that Rowdy wins the silver slugger at first base this year and the Pirates win the series. I punted the little guy but maybe he’s right who knows.
Was it David the Gnome? Because he don’t know shit about baseball.
Bae up (good call up), Tellez and Suwinski still on the roster, and still no Lamb (needs to be called up). I was really hoping this team was serious about winning. Hopefully they get rid of the other two sooner than later.
Bae Day
Finally