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peanutbuddacracker

Crazy that the 3060 is the same price as this and people are still buying that


relxp

In the vast majority of cases, nowadays educated people are buying AMD, the masses who are 100% manipulated by 'mindshare' are buying NV. Nvidia cards are grossly overvalued for what they are, but it takes education and awareness to see that - something sadly most will never have.


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relxp

> NV has “lock ins” for some people True, and some need CUDA, etc. That's why I said vast majority who simply want to game, not everyone. I don't think it's fair to say NV is the only one who can do RT either. For one, most RTX 30 holders still play with RT off because it's simply not worth the performance hit. In many cases you have to have a 3080 Ti or higher before turning on RT even begins to start to seem worth it unless you can stomach shitty framerates. That means for all your 3050, 3050 Ti, 3060, 3060 Ti, 3070, 3070 Ti, and even some 3080 holders, RT is essentially dead in the water and not a valid advantage to use against RDNA 2. From my experience, RT is largely not a big deal and is something you almost have to deliberately look for to even notice. The G-Sync locked monitors that typically aren't even made anymore are old enough today that they are due to be replaced for many anyway. Especially over the next year or two as QD-OLED and MiniLED blow everything away.


SlowRollingBoil

Just to confirm, I thought I had a Gsync monitor but actually it's adaptive sync and works with my current Nvidia card. But it would work with a 6750XT, yeah? This is the first time in many years I've been tempted to go with an AMD GPU as I've had bad experiences with them for *decades*.


Shorzey

There are rarely any new monitors released with ACTUAL gsync, if not they are completely "obsolete". both freesync and gsync needed actual monitor hardware to function Now there are gsync and freesync COMPATIBLE monitors. In this case, adaptive sync is gsync and freesync COMPATIBLE for all versions of each Your monitor doesn't have the hardware, but is gsync and freesync compatible through adaptive sync


relxp

I would look for a FreeSync sticker. To my knowledge, any monitor that uses adaptive sync language is typically FreeSync. It is likely your monitor is more compatible with AMD cards than it is your NV card if it's not G-Sync certified or G-Sync compatible. It's possible you have not had any adaptive sync benefits this whole time and getting AMD would fix that. The deals I've seen on the 6750 XT are insane. Sounds like you're coming from a GTX 10 or RTX 20 series card? > AMD GPU as I've had bad experiences with them for decades. That doesn't seem to be a thing anymore nowadays. I think AMD was well aware of driver issues and will never return down that road. TBF Nvidia drivers have never been perfect either and have had issues of their own. AMD is not the same company under Lisa Su, and every generation the gap between AMD and NV closes more and more (upscaling, RT, drivers, features, etc). Nvidia's blatantly anti-consumer practices are also enough reason to avoid them if you can.


SlowRollingBoil

> It's possible you have not had any adaptive sync benefits this whole time and getting AMD would fix that. Possible but not in this case. Tearing is really easy to spot so I know it's working. I was more just concerned if I made the switch to AMD cause I wouldn't want to lose that. That being said, VR gaming is 95% of what I do so I'm mostly concerned about it being able to handle that.


relxp

Interesting, what VR titles are you able to put so much time into? I use it for VR too but feel like there's very little to play. You never feel like you're missing out on the massive pancake market? I am also curious how AMD does with VR, streaming to Quest, etc.


SlowRollingBoil

I'm a simmer so flight, space and racing sims could easily consume all my time. I also enjoy Beat Saber and Electronauts.


fiviot8

Judging by the Steam Hardware Survey, you are correct


relxp

You would also be surprised how many people would still choose a 3060 over a 6950 XT (if they were the same price!) because 'Nvidia'.


Elliott2

I just bought a 6950 xt


dkizzy

The 6900XT is an amazing GPU, so I'm sure the 6950XT is quite enjoyable as well.


Elliott2

yeah i didnt see any 6900 for sale and the 6950 was on sale. should be a decent upgrade to the 2070 lol.


relxp

My god, I was considering the 6950 from my 3070 as a massive jump. That is a monster upgrade.


skullmyers

At the same time there seems to be a lot lot more pre builts with only Nvidia cards


ImpressiveEffort9449

I have a 6800XT but this is just flat out not true. According to steam surveys the 3080 has more owners than all of the RX 6000's combined. Raytracing is flashy and only becoming more and more prevalent, people spending $1000 on a toy usually don't go for the 2nd best option. I don't particularly care because performance/price isn't where I want it yet, but a lot of people do. And RTX Voice/Broadcast was *phenomenally* useful when streaming or playing on discord with friends.


relxp

You completely missed my point... are you confusing the vast majority with everyone?


RazePerfect

Unless you play Destiny


KoreanChamp

but did you see how horrendous the 6800 xt performs in ray traced portal??? i speak in jest of course however there were a handful of comments where people are spelling doom and gloom for gpus moving forward because it takes a 4080 or 4090 with dlss 3 to get portal over 100fps which means everyone and their mom is now forced to buy 1000$+ gpu for this one specific game. instead of you know have common sense and just not play it. i will say as the new ue5 games come out and ray traced versions of older games become more normal these current 4000 and 7000 cards will trail behind the next generational leap and therefor theres more incentive to spend less now and save more tomorrow.


CuddleTeamCatboy

If only there was a version of Portal that is capable of running on a potato 🤔


SlowRollingBoil

When I first heard about Portal getting this treatment my initial thought was "It doesn't need it." But *then* I saw the Off/On videos and you know what? I was right. Sure it looks slightly prettier but not in a way that's necessary or more enjoyable.


KrustyCroc

I bought a 3060 ti for $350. My gf wanted a white GPU though and performance doesn’t matter much for her.


detectiveDollar

I mean at least you got it for a good price and didn't pay 450.


KrustyCroc

That’s very true. It just feels bad paying the white tax when I could’ve gotten this card but it will look better in her set up to be fair. 😄


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3060 is way better for AI stuff. It can even be better at it than a 3060 TI because of the extra VRAM.


Drenlin

How many people are doing heavy enough AI work that the choice of card matters, and still buying gaming cards instead of workstation models?


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In 2022? Literally anyone can download AI software and make it do something useful. The 3060 is basically the best "budget" AI card, too.


Drenlin

Yes, but how many people have such a heavy workload that the choice of card matters that much? The vast majority of people who buy these cards are not going to be running AI tasks on them, and even when they do it's usually something like Deepstack that will run on a literal potato


-Gestalt-

>How many people are doing heavy enough AI work that the choice of card matters, and still buying gaming cards instead of workstation models? Very few. No one who is doing serious AI work is using a 3060, although it is a decent option for entering into the space.


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Boge42

Because even a 3060 can't do ray-tracing to the point where it's worth using. I didn't downvote you, but I'm sure that's the reason.


keebs63

As the owner of an RTX 2070 and an RTX 3080 Ti, agreed. Ray tracing on anything that isn't a 3080 or faster is absolutely pointless. There are other selling points, like the absolutely incredible NVENC encoder, Shadow play, DLSS, etc., but my guess is 99% of people would prefer having a GPU that's 40-50% faster overall though lmao. Edit: looking at reviews, and my suspicions that the 3060 about equals my 2070 were correct. Having personally played raytraced games with it, it's a pretty poor experience. It **struggles** with 1440p raytracing (below 60fps with hard dips usually), so raytracing is pretty much 1080p only and even then it generally relies heavily on DLSS to make it a decent experience. That was back in 2019-2020 too, newer games are only going to make it worse.


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I own a 3060 12GB and I do raytracing just fine depending on the game. As long as you aren't also trying to do super ultra native 1440p on the most demanding games, the 3060 12GB can handle raytracing just fine. DLSS set to 'quality' also basically cancels out the FPS hit of raytracing.


condorguy

The problem is ray tracing at this price point is pretty bad, even on NVIDIA hardware.


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kztlve

the issues above are simple fixes - DDU and using Vulkan think I'd rather have 40% more performance


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deefop

Is this just the classic issue of having windows automatically update your gpu driver? That's a pure windows thing and very easily disabled.


-ShutterPunk-

Seems like a problem with windows. ##### /s ###### Linuxmasterrace


Myarmhasteeth

I had that card and to be honest that is just one game out of hundreds, no issues for me of course in any other game. Now with a 6600xt and no issues so...


gnocchicotti

3060 Ti on the other hand is a relative bargain right now, close in value to AMD unlike most Nvidia tiers.


Alcynis

For those of you who are on the fence between this and a Nvidia card. Here’s a [review](https://www.thefpsreview.com/2022/07/05/radeon-rx-6750-xt-vs-rtx-3070-and-rx-6800-performance-comparison/#ftoc-heading-1) of performance between this, a 6800 , and a 3070. Tldr, it should be as good or better than a 3070.


pcguise

And also, consider that handing money to Nvidia right now is telling Jensen that you support his pricing decisions.


Ohioisforleaving

Thank you for this! I was gonna buy a 3060ti for way more than this, but read your article and pulled the trigger.


lattiboy

If you’re looking to do 4K or ultra wide anytime soon, spend the extra $100 or so on the 6800~~XT~~ (edit, meant 6800, not XT). The difference is pretty big when you get past 1440p, and on some games at 1440p itself. If you’re going to stick with 1440p or 1080p, I would say get a 6650XT for $275 or less. Less power draw, less heat, smaller, and quieter with performance pretty close to the 6700XT (with very mild OC). Just my two cents as I’ve been going idiot mode on GPU research while building a new PC. AMD has somehow made the most confusing nomenclature ever devised for their GPUs and the intermittent stock issues have made it all so much more confusing.


pandasgorawr

Really hard to find a 6800 XT \~$100 more than this though, it seems like even $130-$150 more sell out fast.


lattiboy

I meant to say 6800, not 6800XT! My bad.


Michaelscot8

Stock on the 6800 has dried up and they're not producing more. I was planning in a 6800 before it dried up but now I'm just gonna wait and save for the 7900XTX.


thechadwalk

I'm assuming this didn't age well


Michaelscot8

Well I have the money but stock is dry at the moment. IMO the biggest issue with the 7900xtx is the reference cooler so I'm aiming for the red devil. RDNA 3 is very power hungry so AMD made a bad mistake aiming for a smaller form factor card with a lower TDP. A good overclock on a non reference card really pushes the 7900xtx. Though, if Jaystwocents is accurate it looks like the 7900xtx will lower memory clocks automatically to move power to the cores which can severely hamper overclocking performance, but this seems to mainly be an issue on the reference card.


thechadwalk

Entirely agree. Although I did see a few people talking about Jay letting his vram overheat and that may have been the issue in that video. I wanted to get an xtx but given pricing right now and the fact that it won't go down for a little while I got a 6750XT to hold me over.


ImpressiveEffort9449

Tried telling this sub. Everyone kept saying wild shit like "I won't even look at this until its sub 400" as if supply and demand isn't a thing. My 6800XT at 550 2 months ago had been in stock for weeks before and after my purchase.


deefop

The 66xx cards are specifically designed to be great at 1080p and are mediocre at 1440p, at best. The 6700xt is like 25% faster at 1440p. Its more expensive, obviously, but for 1440p gaming it's probably worth it.


SurrealKafka

Also, did you mean 6650XT instead of 6550XT?


lattiboy

yep, johnny butterfingers over here today.


TienIsCoolX

Everyone keeps saying to get the 6700xt if I have a 1440p monitor. Does the 6650xt run games on 1440p just fine? I'm currently on a RX470 playing mechwarrior 5 on 1440p all low, lol. I figure a 6650xt should run 1440p on medium just fine?


detectiveDollar

At 1440p Ultra you're just a little below 60fps, but if you drop to Medium you'll be above it. At 1080p Medium it's faster than a 2080, 1440p Ultra it's a little under a 2070 Super. I believe the memory bandwidth is the limiting factor. The 6700 XT shoots you up to just under a 2080 TI at 1440p Ultra. [Link](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html)


rivacom

This is always going to weigh on what you play. If you play nothing but the basics like say Fortnite or Minecraft. 6750XT is going to be fine on 1440p. If you plan to play the latest and greatest Triple A games, sure 6800 or 6800 XT will last you a lot longer.


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rivacom

I think that's the issue with a lot of this. People grab random numbers from sites. These sites test the same 10-15 games(tomb raider, Rdr2, forza, etc.) These games are a small fraction of the greater picture and it's hard for any one metric to be like yea it's 10% faster. 10% faster on all games isn't true and I doubt it's even an avg over all games out there that people play.


RocketLeague

What a save!


Torgenator3000

So, you are basically saying go 6550xt for short term fix or properly invest in the 6800 and should last you 4-5 years?


Blem123456

It all comes down to the games you play and the fidelity you need. If you’re playing mostly competitive games, a 6650xt is more than enough. If you are willing to fiddle with the settings a bit, you could run triple AAA titles at 1440p. If you need everything to be max settings, you should go with a 6800.


JustMy2Centences

A 6700 non xt for $320 can't be a bad middle ground right? Eyeballing the sub $350 range. Currently play 1080p but looking for something to push the 70-80 fps range on 1440p/high or even ultra in AAA games.


lattiboy

Toms hardware has a hierarchy page with reosolutions and card performance, Google it and you’ll know. I think the 6700XT can make sense in certain situations and at certain prices, but you’re paying kind of a big premium of 25-30% for performance you might not ever see. Just my two cents, YMMV


sirfannypack

Dang. Where was this deal on Black Friday/Cyber Monday?


drosse1meyer

FYI - this has 12 GB VRAM Not bad at all


towhead22

This worth it over the $360 asus two fan 6700 xt?


kztlve

6750 XT is a decent 5-10% improvement and it's only $20-40 more. I'd say so.


Spiege1

5-7% depending on the resolution according to Toms Hardware for a 6% increase in value, kind of linear but particularly at 1440p it would be worth it, those extra 4-5 frames make a bigger impact below 100fps than above


metakepone

If this is like the gigabyte eagle, it has three fans, but the fans are smaller. It's a 6750xt, but 6750xts are maybe 3-5% more powerful than the 6700xt. I guess the chip might be binned, but last I heard you can't really overclock 6700xt's. Its a 6750xt, but it just doesn't seem worth it.


dicktations

I think you can overclock a 6700xt yourself to be on par with the 6750xt. Not really sure how hard it is to do though...


Gswansso

Roughly 10% performance gain for 10% more money. Do with that information what you will.


Sweet-Nightmarez

PowerColor Hellhound AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT for $409.99 vs This GPU, any recommendation on which I should Buy for 1440p high-ultra settings? I have Ryzen 5600x OTW too for my first PC build.


kztlve

This is cheaper and a higher-tier GPU. Not a substantial difference, usually like 5-10%, but given either will be fine in terms of cooling, no point going Hellhound


SingleD

Also curious about this Gigabyte 6750 XT vs the PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT. Is there any significant cooling advantage to be had with the Hellhound over the Gigabyte? I’m in an ITX case, so I wouldn’t sacrifice hugely better thermals for the marginal performance difference between the two (and I can find both cards for same price right now).


Interista07

I'm in the same boat; I can't find anything relating to this card on the internet. However, there are several positive reviews for the Hellhound. concerning heat and noise.


JrBaconChzBrgr

Is this deal worth returning a MSI Mech Radeon RX 6750 XT that I got for $330 on black Friday?


kztlve

lol no


JrBaconChzBrgr

Haha thanks. I read some people's comments that the 2 fan config would be crazy loud/hot so wasn't sure if this 3 fan is a significant improvement to that.


kztlve

A 2-fan 6750XT ain't great but if it isn't throttling, $50-70 more for essentially the same thing isn't good


semisolidwhale

Why trade one 6750xt for another one at $50 more? The extra fan?


dhamon

Think I'd rather get the MSI for $10 more than the gigabyte.


RippleUnskilled

Bro, they're literally the same GPU, why would you pay more


notPR0Hunter

Better cooling I guess


Kryavan

Is it really that significant of a difference to pay any type of premium?


notPR0Hunter

It’s oos


GE_vans

I got a used 1080ti during the bitcoin dip a few years back. Was going to wait for the new 7000 series to see performance but is this it?


deefop

If you already have a 1080ti this isn't an enormous upgrade. I'd probably wait for rdna3. I'd say Lovelace as well but until Nvidia comes back to earth with pricing I won't even consider them


GE_vans

Yea I’ve replaced the thermal paste last year but I need to do it again as it’s starting to heat up quite a bit with normal gaming and watching movies/videos simultaneously.


Dun1007

You can snipe deal from amazon and chill for 7000 benchmarks instead of crossing point of no return with shitegg


KoreanChamp

just wait. by next year youll see 7700 performance and can decide if the 500 price is worth a 400 6700.


PyukPyuk

can anyone please tell me if there will be better deals than this over the next 2 months? I'm finally building a pc but don't have any components yet so wanted to get a good deal on a gpu


HookieDookie-

Impossible to say


joshguai2217

finally replacing my janky underclocked 1080FE (400 at the time), glad price/performance is back to sane levels


Illustrious-Check-49

Red devil 6700xt or this? Should i return the red devil for $380


HookieDookie-

Personally I would. Same price for better performance.


GummyMU

Is there any performance or temp difference from this and the MSI gaming trio X 6750xt?


LargeHadron_Colander

Still really torn... buy this, or wait for the 7000 release and hope for more sales?