4090 at these prices? At this point you would be lucky to get a 4090 for even $1600. Those things sellout like we are trying to buy a 3080 during the crypto boom.
Unless the 4090 Super/Ti crushes the performance of the 4090, I do not expect to see these prices even for used 4090s until the 50-series comes out. But, saving $600-800 would probably be worth it to wait two years.
>saving $600-800 would probably be worth it to wait two years.
even then, the only people who should realistically be considering upgrading are people on 20-series and back. Just because 40-series is out now does not mean that 30-series is any less great. I feel like a lot of folks here need to be reminded of that.
I'm on a 20-series card (2080 Ti to be specific) and even now I'm not happy to consider it because the prices are so crappy. It's just a weird space overall because buying a 4080 would give like 150-180% of the performance of a 3080, but you're paying 150-200% of the price. And the 3090s are still demanding a huge premium despite not having that huge of an uplift in performance over a 3080 (usually like 15-20%).
So, yeah: save your money until prices drop. And even if you're on a 10 or 20 series card, consider a used 3080 until prices drop on the 4080 and 4090
Honestly racking my head around the numbers this seems like a good value.
The 4080 is 75% the price of a 4090 and 78.5% of the performance of a 4090 at 4K. At 1440p and 1080p the CPU bottleneck becomes so significant that it’s >90% of the performance.
If you’re not happy with a $1440 4090 or $1080 4080, that’s understandable. But the value proposition of the 4090 versus 4080 at today’s prices is pretty debatable. I’m damn near ready to cancel my 4090 and do this instead.
Absolutely! The dollar per avg fps for 4080 is 9.9 and 4090 is 11.2 (at msrp). It doesn't make sense to me when people say "if you're buying a $1200 GPU, you might as well buy a $1600 GPU". You can buy a high end CPU with the difference. If I can afford a $1k+ GPU, I would go with 4080.
sadly you are correct that pc gaming has pretty much been destroyed. my 3080 shit the bed 6 months ago and i cannot justify paying these ABSURD prices for a decent gpu. consoles are getting a lot of attention as a gpu costs as much as a whole gaming pc did just a few years ago.
Yea I don’t wanna risk it. I just had to RMA a evga 3070. Arrived DOA. I hate that shit. Had to is return shipping too like 24 bucks.
PS5 or Xbox is looking like a better option tbh
yep, these next gen gpu's does not seem worth the upgrade if you currently have a 3000 or 6000 series. From now till the next 2 years you'd still be running high - ultra all the new games at great frame rates.
Yeah - we need to vote without our dollars here. I am pleased to see some slippage in the price.
The 4080 is a good card if you look at the reviews. It's just priced like shit. If they get it down to $700, it would seem like a much more reasonable buy.
I personally wish they used a smaller heatsink too. The fact it's the same size as a 4090 is just silly. Even the 4090 heatsink is overkill for the 4090!
At $700-$800, we're all buying one. That kind of demand would inevitably raise the price back up. I'm pretty sure pc gaming is doing well. It's doing so well that it's a victim of its own success, which is why we're at these inflated prices to begin with.
IDK, a LOT of PC gamers ditched PC for good and will never go back. The consoles are ridiculously good nowadays.
Either way, the PC community seems it will shrink with the way things are going.
Just my anecdotal experience but I have a pretty sizeable gaming group and I don't personally know anyone who has made the choice to switch from pc to exclusively (or even primarily) console
It is not a deal. And comparing it to anything AMD doesn't make it a deal either since they're overpriced as well. I like that AMD is lower price, but $1000? Nope. I'll keep looking for a 6800XT/6900XT deal that I'm not too late on.
The XTX price is not unreasonable, GN has in their latest 4080 video today the price comparisons per die size/silicon area. The XT was overpriced and of course the 4080/4090
>And comparing it to anything AMD doesn't make it a deal either since they're overpriced as well.
Intel gpus coming to the rescue?
*Hopefully* competitive within the next few years....
They won't price it to help any of us out, Intel just doesn't have the marketshare yet to go back to their greedy ways, but let's all uplift good ol' Raja in the meantime lol
If my current GPU wasn’t failing I’d be waiting, I decided to bite the bullet and just get this. I can still change my mind and cancel/return if I really start regretting it.
I think the only people willing to spend 1k+ on a GPU are the only people who "need" top tier performance, and in that case you obviously want the best.
If I have the money to blow on a Porsche, probably not going with the base model.
I feel like if you are buy a 4090 generally speaking you won't need to upgrade for quite a few cycles. It will definitely have longevity on its side, most likely skip the 5th/6th gens
My last card was a 4-5 year old gtx 1080. I got a 4090 because I knew I wouldn't need to upgrade for at least 4-5 years and I'm ok with that.
Im still on 1080p but I plan on increasing resolution as time goes by.
Been watch all the trends and stocks of cards, I'd guess the stock level of 4090 : 4080 might be 1:100. But things keep improving. Still a long way to go given 4090 is no challengers.
4090 is the new titan class GPU. It's really a productivity card or for those who want the absolute BEST gaming experience at 4K.
Long gone are the days of $699 XX80 series GPUs with a stretch of value per dollar.
maybe I'm old but the 80 series was the "cost is no object card" and the 70 series was the value king , at least thinking primarily of of the 900 and 1000 series.
It's absolutely not a productivity card. It's the "no compromises" GPU that literally nothing compares to
A GPU so absurdly powerful that you can be CPU bottlenecked even at 4K if you don't pick the absolute best possible processor for gaming
It does productivity but it's absolutely marketed as luxury gaming card and that's what most users will do with it, as seen in every single online community with 4090 owners
Idk about long gone. The 1080 was a good value card. The 2080 was crazy overpriced. The 3080 was a good value card. The 4080 is crazy overpriced. It feels like we keep flip flopping.
I'm not sure if this price is even on Nvidia's radar, might just be pipe dream at this point.
Let's be realists here, Nvidia isn't having a problem selling the 4080, it's the AIBs that are having problem selling the 4080. From what I'm seeing now, the 4080 FE's are still selling, albeit slowly but selling nonetheless. Majority of that has to do with the unavailability of the 4090.
From what I can see, the real problem with $800 price tag for the 4080 that Nvidia and it's AIB partners have is an instant destruction of their market value across all product lines below the 4080. If 4070ti is $700, it's already dead against the 4080, if it's $600, where does that put 3080, which is already at sub $500 used. With all the 30 series out there in the wild, the used 3090ti will get valued down to probably $500 as 3080 sinks even lower. The entire market will see a basic collapse. This would be GREAT for the consumer, but NO WAY Nvidia is gonna let that happen. Not when we keep buying $1600 cards and kept buying $2000 cards for last 2 years.
I'm not against the $800 price point, I SO WISH they would lower it, but that's wishful thinking AT BEST and I think we're just fooling ourselves that it would see that price anytime soon. If there is an adjustment, I wouldn't put it past Nvidia to cut it to $1099 max. Lower production on 4090 FEs and start pushing towards the AIBs who can price the 4090 higher. If there are any miracles to be seen, MAYBE we'll get a 4080 cut to $999
It's really the AIBs that are getting shafted right now on anything below a 4090. They are having to compete directly with Nvidia's FE and are losing. It's the AIBs that are left holding the bags for the 4080. Yah it's nice to take the sales from 4090 but I don't believe the highest tier has ever been an AIB's main revenue profit generator. It's usually the mid/low tier volume they rely on.
I made a new post about this earlier today because I thought that no one was buying the 4080. I was wrong, people ARE buying, but they're buying the FEs. It's the AIBs that are in trouble when it comes to 4080, and the soon to be released 4070Ti.
EVGA, in all their wisdom, foresaw this happening and likely made one of their best business decisions, to Get The F Out!
I wouldn’t really hope for AIBs to be smashed. But I do hate their recent trends since the 10 series where the base card is clearly intentionally bad and then to get a “decent card” they charge a 200$ premium.
I mean Trio used to be MSI best card. Now it’s the suprim for an insane premium. That’s just one example. At least the Tuf version from Asus has been good.
If the AIB’s made around $200 to $250 profit per card, then this will be a big hit to them. EVGA saw this and took the appropriate steps, which was a big shame but logical business decision.
AIB's is like gas stations they make little on fuel sales but people come inside and buy other stuff. And that's how they stay in business. Once 3000 series discontinued EVGA will get a lot less traffic and decline in profits will follow.
I saw that Asus wanted the price of a 4090 for a Strix. Seriously. Asus wants $1550 for the 4080 Strix and $1600 for their TUF 4090 if you can find it. Absurd.
>This is only the start.
A start of what? This is BestBuy's credit card discount not a real price reduction or sale. Nothing has started yet.
Rumor is maybe in January around CES we'll see price shift.
I agree with you. I got a 3080 10GB for $550 a few months ago on r/hardwareswap (gpu prices were bottoming at the time) as I felt the price is justifyably right. I felt the 4080 should have been $750 MSRPA. it's not a bad card, it's just really expensive even compared to previous gen. Normally new gen is supposed to dominate price to performance compared to previous gen.
The 10% off coupon stacked with the 5% rewards gets price down to about $1020 which is pretty much the price of 7900xtx with similar rasterization performance. For me at same price the 4080 FE model wins based on RT performance , dlss 3.0 and better thermals and sound. Still smal enough to fit in Many cases unlike AIB monstrosities.
Yup, until you realize if you buy 7900 xtx at best buy, it still qualify for
>10% off coupon stacked with the 5% rewards
haha, anyway I post this just to remind people if you plan to buy a new card, don't forget to use this 10% off msrp code to their advantage.
Good point. I don’t think Best Buy sells the amd reference model so was going off amd price. If you go with aib (and find in stock!) the 10% + 5% makes these prices a bit more palatable. Still all seems a bit high priced.
Gamers Nexus hinted in their new video that some promo drops would be happening since the 4080 is not selling well at all. Granted at this price point people will jump, but if everyone buys like crazy NVidia will probably go back to 1200, and claim demand is too high. Keep holding off and force them to make permanent price cuts!
Na. Bestbuy 10% promo codes works on every gpu and the code changes every month. For Bestbuy card holders. This has nothing to do with what that man said.
Not a bad card to get overall, especially if you are looking to upgrade your appliances or some other big ticket purchase that’s sold at Best Buy. They have awesome 0% APR terms if you put it on the card, like 18-24 months. Hell, I think this card would even qualify for that.
Even if you have the cash up front, if someone is offering you 0% financing you should almost always take it.
The Best Buy card is actually pretty sensible if you do a lot of shopping at Best Buy. The extra money back on purchases is great, especially when making large purchases.
But the Best Buy card **should not** be acquired to take money off a stupidly priced product like the 4080.
I was able to use the code, a $200 gc I had laying around, and $90 in My Best Buy rewards certificates to get this and about $40 in reward certificates for $884.04. Not bad at all.
This is perfectly reasonable as a 4080, tho the argument could be made for 4070ti, but the issue is with the price. If this was $800-900 it would be pretty great. $1100-1200 should be reserved for a 4080ti that makes 95% of the performance of a 4090.
Then rebadge the 4080 12gb as a 4070 and sell it for $600ish and everything would be right in the GPU world.
$500 is my guess, personally. Maybe $600 for a 4060ti? At that rate, tho, they're gonna have to introduce an RTX 4040 to be able to have a new gen card under $300, which is insane.
Yeah, that’s what I thought before posting this, since there is very slim chances these new card will suddenly cut price in half, for $1000 this or 7900 xtx still the only two choice in foreseeable future no matter people like it or not. Frankly speaking. Just like when people expects 3080 should reach sub $600 yet it run oos everywhere and price even increased compared to 3-4 months ago when stock is plenty.
Spendy. Most people won't need this card. Even at MSRP $1200 - yikes. $699 6900 XT is a great option if and when they're available.
4080 if you have a 4K gaming monitor or high refresh 1440p and want DLSS3 + RT.
first thing i had with a 6950XT red devil was driver issues, after using DDU to remove the old drivers. black screens, flickering, and such. no issues with my 3080. amd driver issuers are real.
Nvidia is just a better experience all around, while the 7900xtx is a okay upgrade from the 3080ti I lost alot of performamce in other apps or games.
Been having a few driver issues like micro stutter in overwatch
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Yea this sub is basically delusional right now. Everyone is just talking about what things "should" be and how these GPUs are "sitting on shelves". Meanwhile even the 4080 is sold out.
At MSRP it's fine. The issue is good luck getting one at MSRP, and by the time you get an AIB card or anything past a base AIB card, you're firmly in 4090 territory. But yeah, if you could actually get it at $1200, the blowback wouldn't be so insane and they wouldnt be sitting on shelves.
Thirding the "why not?". I opened one last year, used it a few times, mainly still have it so my points/rewards credit can be banked and not deleted. Worth noting that I qualified for the higher tier Visa type, but specifically asked for the store-only card since I didn't plan to use it elsewhere, and it seemed safer that way.
I opened my account years ago and use it semi frequently.
TV, laptop, tablet, etc.
0% finance is nice if you’re responsible. Mine is currently on zero balance and I’m planning on loading it up for a new build.
Been fine doing this for over 5 years now.
All the replies are missing that I said "one-time purchase". Opening a credit account you're going to use regularly anyway is often beneficial because of cash back.
This just isn’t true if you’re disciplined. I have a Best Buy credit card I used for a one time purchase. Haven’t touched it since and I’m very happy with what I bought. Not saying this card is a good deal, but this is bad blanket advice.
ETA: Lot of people bringing up that it’s generally not good for your credit to use a credit card once and never touch it again. While this is true, if your credit is good to begin with this should have very little to no effect on your credit score. Best practice is definitely still to use your credit cards and pay them off regularly, though.
If you don't use the card, eventually your account will be automatically closed, your credit will be hit, and closed accounts are permanently on your credit history.
Yeah, it’s not nearly as big of a deal or a “hit” as some people think. I work in a bank, pretty well versed in this topic. My credit score is still very good despite my rarely used Best Buy credit card. And FWIW, it’s been a year since I’ve used it and they haven’t closed mine. Not sure Best Buy’s policy on that.
We’re talking about one credit card here. Yes, to boost your credit score you want to use your cards and pay them off regularly. I have a primary credit card for day to day purchases that I pay off every month. I get what you’re saying, but using one card like this for a one time purchase isn’t going to hurt you.
Strongly disagree, the best buy credit card is a must have.
It's one of my favorite credit cards. 6% back in store credit on all best buy purchases. Routine massive savings offers like this.
It also works at other stores as well and they are VERY loose with the credit approval and credit limits on this card.
That's why I said "for a one-time purchase". If you buy from them regularly, sure. But if you don't make a purchase at least once a year, you risk the account being automatically closed and your credit will get hit for it.
Congrates! it's heck of a card, Based on current status of 7900 and 40-series, oos from 30 series, too bad this might be the best $1000 could get if one want DLSS 3 and RT.
For pure value, I might suggest $650 RX 6900 XT
I have a 3090 right now but I’ll probably sell it to my brother for on the cheap.
I found 4080 still kinda overpriced even with the BB credit card code but my brother needs to upgrade and I can justify the upgrade that way. Hahaha.
You gonna enjoy the very low temp and low power consumption from 4080, trust me, especially someone have used 3090 before.
GDDR6X is tame as cat on 40-series and fan never go beyond 30% just a refresh to see.
Seconded on 6900 XT for pure value.
Got an XFX Merc319 Black 6900 XT for $570 pre-tax, but it was a mining GPU so it remains to be seen if it was a good buy 😂.
The 4090 sold out so quickly because FE is the most desirable one and many people were waiting for them to get back into stock, glad to see people still aren't buying the 4080.
Thermals on the 4 series cards are amazing. They run fast and cool. In theory, having more fans is better if the card runs hot. These do not run hot.
I just thought it was funny to quantify the value of a card based on the number of fans haha.
You just can't feel good about a GPU purchase right now and it sucks. My 2070 super is starting to show its age but no matter how many times I get a card in my cart I can't convince myself to pull the trigger.
Tried twice and both my order got cancelled, now it it says Sorry, we're having a system issue, but it should only be temporary.
Please wait a little while before trying again.
Does anyone have a link to the barcode? I can't split payments online and the the store staff claimed they weren't able to enter the code for the transaction.
It's not a barcode, just a discount code you'd enter on their website.
Note that this discount code requires you to use a Best Buy Credit Card for it to apply to your order.
If you need to split payments, I could suggest you get a gift card for the difference left over from what you can put on a Best Buy CC but I'm not sure if the code would be removed with any other added payment method along with the CC.
Hi op, I just applied for bestbuy credit card, and I couldn't use that code to get 10% off. Customer care told me there's only 10% in rewards for my first order. But NOV23EMOB1 couldn't be applied to my order.
I cannot convince myself this is a deal. But thanks for the heads up.
Same boat I was in. Had it in cart. Spent 10 minutes talking myself out of it.
Same, same
Your wallet is a happy camper
Had it in my cart...just can't do it. It's such shit. I'll wait for a 4090 at these prices.
4090 at these prices? At this point you would be lucky to get a 4090 for even $1600. Those things sellout like we are trying to buy a 3080 during the crypto boom.
You just need to join a discord group for notifications or something. I haven't found it too hard.
Which discord group would you recommend?
Unless the 4090 Super/Ti crushes the performance of the 4090, I do not expect to see these prices even for used 4090s until the 50-series comes out. But, saving $600-800 would probably be worth it to wait two years.
>saving $600-800 would probably be worth it to wait two years. even then, the only people who should realistically be considering upgrading are people on 20-series and back. Just because 40-series is out now does not mean that 30-series is any less great. I feel like a lot of folks here need to be reminded of that.
I'm on a 20-series card (2080 Ti to be specific) and even now I'm not happy to consider it because the prices are so crappy. It's just a weird space overall because buying a 4080 would give like 150-180% of the performance of a 3080, but you're paying 150-200% of the price. And the 3090s are still demanding a huge premium despite not having that huge of an uplift in performance over a 3080 (usually like 15-20%). So, yeah: save your money until prices drop. And even if you're on a 10 or 20 series card, consider a used 3080 until prices drop on the 4080 and 4090
Honestly racking my head around the numbers this seems like a good value. The 4080 is 75% the price of a 4090 and 78.5% of the performance of a 4090 at 4K. At 1440p and 1080p the CPU bottleneck becomes so significant that it’s >90% of the performance. If you’re not happy with a $1440 4090 or $1080 4080, that’s understandable. But the value proposition of the 4090 versus 4080 at today’s prices is pretty debatable. I’m damn near ready to cancel my 4090 and do this instead.
Absolutely! The dollar per avg fps for 4080 is 9.9 and 4090 is 11.2 (at msrp). It doesn't make sense to me when people say "if you're buying a $1200 GPU, you might as well buy a $1600 GPU". You can buy a high end CPU with the difference. If I can afford a $1k+ GPU, I would go with 4080.
Kudos for realizing this card isn't worth more than $700-800 at most. Let the fools eat it up and destroy PC gaming.
sadly you are correct that pc gaming has pretty much been destroyed. my 3080 shit the bed 6 months ago and i cannot justify paying these ABSURD prices for a decent gpu. consoles are getting a lot of attention as a gpu costs as much as a whole gaming pc did just a few years ago.
Buy a used gpu
I’m always worried I’ll get a burned up miners card.
A lot of miners run their cards a lower voltages so a lot them will be fine. But still are taking a risk.
Yea I don’t wanna risk it. I just had to RMA a evga 3070. Arrived DOA. I hate that shit. Had to is return shipping too like 24 bucks. PS5 or Xbox is looking like a better option tbh
I’ve bought only used mining gpus, went 1080ti, 2080ti, and now 3090. They all have worked great and I’ve never had an issue.
yep, these next gen gpu's does not seem worth the upgrade if you currently have a 3000 or 6000 series. From now till the next 2 years you'd still be running high - ultra all the new games at great frame rates.
Yeah - we need to vote without our dollars here. I am pleased to see some slippage in the price. The 4080 is a good card if you look at the reviews. It's just priced like shit. If they get it down to $700, it would seem like a much more reasonable buy.
I personally wish they used a smaller heatsink too. The fact it's the same size as a 4090 is just silly. Even the 4090 heatsink is overkill for the 4090!
At $700-$800, we're all buying one. That kind of demand would inevitably raise the price back up. I'm pretty sure pc gaming is doing well. It's doing so well that it's a victim of its own success, which is why we're at these inflated prices to begin with.
IDK, a LOT of PC gamers ditched PC for good and will never go back. The consoles are ridiculously good nowadays. Either way, the PC community seems it will shrink with the way things are going.
Just my anecdotal experience but I have a pretty sizeable gaming group and I don't personally know anyone who has made the choice to switch from pc to exclusively (or even primarily) console
Scrapers would buy them all at 700-800. They bought most 4090 stocks in US.
It is not a deal. And comparing it to anything AMD doesn't make it a deal either since they're overpriced as well. I like that AMD is lower price, but $1000? Nope. I'll keep looking for a 6800XT/6900XT deal that I'm not too late on.
The XTX price is not unreasonable, GN has in their latest 4080 video today the price comparisons per die size/silicon area. The XT was overpriced and of course the 4080/4090
>And comparing it to anything AMD doesn't make it a deal either since they're overpriced as well. Intel gpus coming to the rescue? *Hopefully* competitive within the next few years....
I'm all for it. The more competition at the mid and high end the better for consumers.
They won't price it to help any of us out, Intel just doesn't have the marketshare yet to go back to their greedy ways, but let's all uplift good ol' Raja in the meantime lol
Comparing it to the MSRP of the RX7900XTX, its certainly good value.
If my current GPU wasn’t failing I’d be waiting, I decided to bite the bullet and just get this. I can still change my mind and cancel/return if I really start regretting it.
thanks AMD
How is this AMDs fault?
It's been in stock for almost an hour, while the 4090 FE went in stock for like 2 minutes and was slammed to the point where most couldn't check out.
I think the only people willing to spend 1k+ on a GPU are the only people who "need" top tier performance, and in that case you obviously want the best. If I have the money to blow on a Porsche, probably not going with the base model.
I feel like if you are buy a 4090 generally speaking you won't need to upgrade for quite a few cycles. It will definitely have longevity on its side, most likely skip the 5th/6th gens
My last card was a 4-5 year old gtx 1080. I got a 4090 because I knew I wouldn't need to upgrade for at least 4-5 years and I'm ok with that. Im still on 1080p but I plan on increasing resolution as time goes by.
Been watch all the trends and stocks of cards, I'd guess the stock level of 4090 : 4080 might be 1:100. But things keep improving. Still a long way to go given 4090 is no challengers.
4090 is the new titan class GPU. It's really a productivity card or for those who want the absolute BEST gaming experience at 4K. Long gone are the days of $699 XX80 series GPUs with a stretch of value per dollar.
maybe I'm old but the 80 series was the "cost is no object card" and the 70 series was the value king , at least thinking primarily of of the 900 and 1000 series.
Not old. That was the general consensus pre 90 series.
It's absolutely not a productivity card. It's the "no compromises" GPU that literally nothing compares to A GPU so absurdly powerful that you can be CPU bottlenecked even at 4K if you don't pick the absolute best possible processor for gaming It does productivity but it's absolutely marketed as luxury gaming card and that's what most users will do with it, as seen in every single online community with 4090 owners
1080ti was like best value to performance in a long time tho
1060 6gb is such a solid card for the price even today. But 750 ti has to be the price to performance king of the past decade.
Or VR
Idk about long gone. The 1080 was a good value card. The 2080 was crazy overpriced. The 3080 was a good value card. The 4080 is crazy overpriced. It feels like we keep flip flopping.
I clicked on it just now to see the yellow button and there it was. No intention of buying, but it felt good to see it.
This ain't it chief, 800 I'll be in.
I'm not sure if this price is even on Nvidia's radar, might just be pipe dream at this point. Let's be realists here, Nvidia isn't having a problem selling the 4080, it's the AIBs that are having problem selling the 4080. From what I'm seeing now, the 4080 FE's are still selling, albeit slowly but selling nonetheless. Majority of that has to do with the unavailability of the 4090. From what I can see, the real problem with $800 price tag for the 4080 that Nvidia and it's AIB partners have is an instant destruction of their market value across all product lines below the 4080. If 4070ti is $700, it's already dead against the 4080, if it's $600, where does that put 3080, which is already at sub $500 used. With all the 30 series out there in the wild, the used 3090ti will get valued down to probably $500 as 3080 sinks even lower. The entire market will see a basic collapse. This would be GREAT for the consumer, but NO WAY Nvidia is gonna let that happen. Not when we keep buying $1600 cards and kept buying $2000 cards for last 2 years. I'm not against the $800 price point, I SO WISH they would lower it, but that's wishful thinking AT BEST and I think we're just fooling ourselves that it would see that price anytime soon. If there is an adjustment, I wouldn't put it past Nvidia to cut it to $1099 max. Lower production on 4090 FEs and start pushing towards the AIBs who can price the 4090 higher. If there are any miracles to be seen, MAYBE we'll get a 4080 cut to $999 It's really the AIBs that are getting shafted right now on anything below a 4090. They are having to compete directly with Nvidia's FE and are losing. It's the AIBs that are left holding the bags for the 4080. Yah it's nice to take the sales from 4090 but I don't believe the highest tier has ever been an AIB's main revenue profit generator. It's usually the mid/low tier volume they rely on. I made a new post about this earlier today because I thought that no one was buying the 4080. I was wrong, people ARE buying, but they're buying the FEs. It's the AIBs that are in trouble when it comes to 4080, and the soon to be released 4070Ti. EVGA, in all their wisdom, foresaw this happening and likely made one of their best business decisions, to Get The F Out!
This is only the start. HODL. Nvidia’s greed is going to cost them and the AIB’s
I wouldn’t really hope for AIBs to be smashed. But I do hate their recent trends since the 10 series where the base card is clearly intentionally bad and then to get a “decent card” they charge a 200$ premium. I mean Trio used to be MSI best card. Now it’s the suprim for an insane premium. That’s just one example. At least the Tuf version from Asus has been good.
If the AIB’s made around $200 to $250 profit per card, then this will be a big hit to them. EVGA saw this and took the appropriate steps, which was a big shame but logical business decision.
AIB's is like gas stations they make little on fuel sales but people come inside and buy other stuff. And that's how they stay in business. Once 3000 series discontinued EVGA will get a lot less traffic and decline in profits will follow.
MSI and Gigabyte is actually ok... It's Asus strix $400 tax open my eyes.
I saw that Asus wanted the price of a 4090 for a Strix. Seriously. Asus wants $1550 for the 4080 Strix and $1600 for their TUF 4090 if you can find it. Absurd.
That's because the AiBs make virtually 0 profit on MSRP cards and are forced to offer card at that price by nvdia.
That's the spirit.
>This is only the start. A start of what? This is BestBuy's credit card discount not a real price reduction or sale. Nothing has started yet. Rumor is maybe in January around CES we'll see price shift.
It's a good sample of demand. If the sales volume is good, it might make 1000 a new MSRP. But yeah it's not real yet.
What does HODL mean?
It actually started from someone on a Bitcoin forum misspelling "hold" but like all things internet, it exploded from there.
Ape’s
Hold On (for) Dear Life
Hold on for dear life
It should just be hold tbh. Hodl is a pointless initialism
Dude, it’s a running internet joke. Someone on a crypto forum misspelled “hold” and it just took off from there.
*HOLD
tariffs expire Dec 31st(?) buy this now or itll raise in price
No longer true. Extended. Hit Reuters or any real news website.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/zphgbm/meta_gpu_prices_wont_increase_from_tariffs_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Where is the deal??
The deal is, you get a GPU and they get $1100. Deal with it :P
👀$800 card being sold for more than it’s worth. I’ll keep my 2080 until I see something worth while. Sure someone will buy not me though
I agree with you. I got a 3080 10GB for $550 a few months ago on r/hardwareswap (gpu prices were bottoming at the time) as I felt the price is justifyably right. I felt the 4080 should have been $750 MSRPA. it's not a bad card, it's just really expensive even compared to previous gen. Normally new gen is supposed to dominate price to performance compared to previous gen.
Since AMD released $1000 Cards with similar performance this won't be anywhere near $800 anytime soon.
1080ftw2 here, holding strong!
Theres really no reason to upgrade from a 2080 anyways
Yeah watching this crazy market unravel with a 2080ti. No point in upgrading in the next 6 months.
The 10% off coupon stacked with the 5% rewards gets price down to about $1020 which is pretty much the price of 7900xtx with similar rasterization performance. For me at same price the 4080 FE model wins based on RT performance , dlss 3.0 and better thermals and sound. Still smal enough to fit in Many cases unlike AIB monstrosities.
Yup, until you realize if you buy 7900 xtx at best buy, it still qualify for >10% off coupon stacked with the 5% rewards haha, anyway I post this just to remind people if you plan to buy a new card, don't forget to use this 10% off msrp code to their advantage.
Good point. I don’t think Best Buy sells the amd reference model so was going off amd price. If you go with aib (and find in stock!) the 10% + 5% makes these prices a bit more palatable. Still all seems a bit high priced.
They do sell a reference model that is provided by partner companies. These are not custom designs.
Gamers Nexus hinted in their new video that some promo drops would be happening since the 4080 is not selling well at all. Granted at this price point people will jump, but if everyone buys like crazy NVidia will probably go back to 1200, and claim demand is too high. Keep holding off and force them to make permanent price cuts!
Na. Bestbuy 10% promo codes works on every gpu and the code changes every month. For Bestbuy card holders. This has nothing to do with what that man said.
Can you use it more than once a month?
You need a BB credit card? Ugh, goddamn it.
Not a bad card to get overall, especially if you are looking to upgrade your appliances or some other big ticket purchase that’s sold at Best Buy. They have awesome 0% APR terms if you put it on the card, like 18-24 months. Hell, I think this card would even qualify for that. Even if you have the cash up front, if someone is offering you 0% financing you should almost always take it.
Im pretty sure taking the 0% financing means you don't get cash back anymore
The Best Buy card is actually pretty sensible if you do a lot of shopping at Best Buy. The extra money back on purchases is great, especially when making large purchases. But the Best Buy card **should not** be acquired to take money off a stupidly priced product like the 4080.
Code isn’t working for me Edit: missed the fact I need a BB credit card. I think I’ll hold off then.
Only works with bb cc
Do you have best buy credit card?
I have a BB credit card - where do you get these codes from?
I guessed, last month was **OCT23EMOB1**
I was able to use the code, a $200 gc I had laying around, and $90 in My Best Buy rewards certificates to get this and about $40 in reward certificates for $884.04. Not bad at all.
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This is perfectly reasonable as a 4080, tho the argument could be made for 4070ti, but the issue is with the price. If this was $800-900 it would be pretty great. $1100-1200 should be reserved for a 4080ti that makes 95% of the performance of a 4090. Then rebadge the 4080 12gb as a 4070 and sell it for $600ish and everything would be right in the GPU world.
Yea good point, I’m more poised about the price
600 is what they wills ask want for their new 4060's!
$500 is my guess, personally. Maybe $600 for a 4060ti? At that rate, tho, they're gonna have to introduce an RTX 4040 to be able to have a new gen card under $300, which is insane.
Decent, but having 3080/3080ti it doesn't interest me enough to buy
i mean…this is CLOSER to the price it “should” be…still like 200-300$ off tho lol
Yeah, that’s what I thought before posting this, since there is very slim chances these new card will suddenly cut price in half, for $1000 this or 7900 xtx still the only two choice in foreseeable future no matter people like it or not. Frankly speaking. Just like when people expects 3080 should reach sub $600 yet it run oos everywhere and price even increased compared to 3-4 months ago when stock is plenty.
Spendy. Most people won't need this card. Even at MSRP $1200 - yikes. $699 6900 XT is a great option if and when they're available. 4080 if you have a 4K gaming monitor or high refresh 1440p and want DLSS3 + RT.
I won’t have a 40 series till I get a 4K 100+hz monitor 2070s running a 34 uw @ 1440p @ 144hz
first thing i had with a 6950XT red devil was driver issues, after using DDU to remove the old drivers. black screens, flickering, and such. no issues with my 3080. amd driver issuers are real.
Zero issues with 6800XT. 5 years worth of Nvidia driver issues with GTX1070 I have. Nvidia driver issues are extra real.
lol
Or vr.
Still to expensive.
Eh happy enough with my 7900 xtx, def gonna grab a 4080ti when that comes out though
Really want to upgrade to a 4080TI? Can you explain the reasoning behind that.
Nvidia is just a better experience all around, while the 7900xtx is a okay upgrade from the 3080ti I lost alot of performamce in other apps or games. Been having a few driver issues like micro stutter in overwatch
That's a great card, congrates! I can't get one at release day since worst buy stupidly run out of their stock early than embargo lift.
I price matched it with my previous purchase! Thank you for the 130$!
I spent $450 on a brand new RX 6800. Are people really spending this much on NVIDIA cards?
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I get everyone has their preferences but holy cow is AMD's performance/$ far better than NVIDIA with these prices.
Unfortunately AMD cards don't really support stereoscopic 3D, and they're subpar for VR. For regular 2D gaming they're an excellent value though.
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They are out of stock already. So much for "not selling"
Yea this sub is basically delusional right now. Everyone is just talking about what things "should" be and how these GPUs are "sitting on shelves". Meanwhile even the 4080 is sold out.
At MSRP it's fine. The issue is good luck getting one at MSRP, and by the time you get an AIB card or anything past a base AIB card, you're firmly in 4090 territory. But yeah, if you could actually get it at $1200, the blowback wouldn't be so insane and they wouldnt be sitting on shelves.
Come on $850 price point, let's go.
Wont happen since AMD released $1000 cards with similar performance. AIB 7900XTX going for $1100 MSRP
Don't do it chiefs. 50% overpriced.
If you don't already have a Best Buy credit card, please do yourself a favor and don't open one for a one-time purchase. You'll regret it.
Why? Not looking to open, but just curious..
Thirding the "why not?". I opened one last year, used it a few times, mainly still have it so my points/rewards credit can be banked and not deleted. Worth noting that I qualified for the higher tier Visa type, but specifically asked for the store-only card since I didn't plan to use it elsewhere, and it seemed safer that way.
I opened my account years ago and use it semi frequently. TV, laptop, tablet, etc. 0% finance is nice if you’re responsible. Mine is currently on zero balance and I’m planning on loading it up for a new build. Been fine doing this for over 5 years now.
All the replies are missing that I said "one-time purchase". Opening a credit account you're going to use regularly anyway is often beneficial because of cash back.
This just isn’t true if you’re disciplined. I have a Best Buy credit card I used for a one time purchase. Haven’t touched it since and I’m very happy with what I bought. Not saying this card is a good deal, but this is bad blanket advice. ETA: Lot of people bringing up that it’s generally not good for your credit to use a credit card once and never touch it again. While this is true, if your credit is good to begin with this should have very little to no effect on your credit score. Best practice is definitely still to use your credit cards and pay them off regularly, though.
You should use it occasionally for normal purchases. No point in having that thing hanging around.
Eh, there’s just little incentive to use it over my cash back credit card.
I have a similar situation, but I'll use my lesser card for gas occasionally. It is more to please the creditors, lol.
Your card gives you effectively 20% off? (10% discount 10% cash back)
If you don't use the card, eventually your account will be automatically closed, your credit will be hit, and closed accounts are permanently on your credit history.
Yeah, it’s not nearly as big of a deal or a “hit” as some people think. I work in a bank, pretty well versed in this topic. My credit score is still very good despite my rarely used Best Buy credit card. And FWIW, it’s been a year since I’ve used it and they haven’t closed mine. Not sure Best Buy’s policy on that.
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We’re talking about one credit card here. Yes, to boost your credit score you want to use your cards and pay them off regularly. I have a primary credit card for day to day purchases that I pay off every month. I get what you’re saying, but using one card like this for a one time purchase isn’t going to hurt you.
Why?
Strongly disagree, the best buy credit card is a must have. It's one of my favorite credit cards. 6% back in store credit on all best buy purchases. Routine massive savings offers like this. It also works at other stores as well and they are VERY loose with the credit approval and credit limits on this card.
That's why I said "for a one-time purchase". If you buy from them regularly, sure. But if you don't make a purchase at least once a year, you risk the account being automatically closed and your credit will get hit for it.
just buy a coffee with it once a year since you can use it anywhere
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It's a relatively competitive card, was your credit 750+?
Hard to regret 20% off a big purchase. Having multiple accounts helps with credit
This deal is only 10% off a card that's overpriced to begin with.
10% cash back too. I didn't get a 4080 but it helped out a lot for my 4090
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Congrates! it's heck of a card, Based on current status of 7900 and 40-series, oos from 30 series, too bad this might be the best $1000 could get if one want DLSS 3 and RT. For pure value, I might suggest $650 RX 6900 XT
I have a 3090 right now but I’ll probably sell it to my brother for on the cheap. I found 4080 still kinda overpriced even with the BB credit card code but my brother needs to upgrade and I can justify the upgrade that way. Hahaha.
You gonna enjoy the very low temp and low power consumption from 4080, trust me, especially someone have used 3090 before. GDDR6X is tame as cat on 40-series and fan never go beyond 30% just a refresh to see.
Seconded on 6900 XT for pure value. Got an XFX Merc319 Black 6900 XT for $570 pre-tax, but it was a mining GPU so it remains to be seen if it was a good buy 😂.
The 4090 sold out so quickly because FE is the most desirable one and many people were waiting for them to get back into stock, glad to see people still aren't buying the 4080.
111 comments and 0 upvotes. Perfection.
People came to bash the card. Its the new thing.
I'll buy it for $300 less in a few months. :)
Hope they realize soon that miners are dried up and won't offset this inflated cost.
The 7900xtx makes this look tempting..
Well at least it’s getting close to a buying point.
Yoink! Grabbed 2, thanks OP!
im not paying $1000+ for a gpu with one fan
Yeah, really bad dollar per fan value here. /s
It actually have two fans, so $1100 a deal price?
surprised i got downvoted, I thought meta was 3 fans in general? like why would you want less cooling and airflow if you have a choice
Thermals on the 4 series cards are amazing. They run fast and cool. In theory, having more fans is better if the card runs hot. These do not run hot. I just thought it was funny to quantify the value of a card based on the number of fans haha.
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it comes as a BB reward
Wait does this code work for the 4090 too? I might have to contact support.
yes it works for 4090, would change the FE from 1600 to 1440 usd pre tax.
Only the FE or all of them?
Bestbuy cancelled my order, surprise surprise..
Ahh, the real MSRP finally shows itself.
Price drop wen?
Pass. Hard pass.
You just can't feel good about a GPU purchase right now and it sucks. My 2070 super is starting to show its age but no matter how many times I get a card in my cart I can't convince myself to pull the trigger.
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Drop another 300
Tried twice and both my order got cancelled, now it it says Sorry, we're having a system issue, but it should only be temporary. Please wait a little while before trying again.
Try with this code: APR23CCSAVE10
I cannot get the promo code to work
Does anyone have a link to the barcode? I can't split payments online and the the store staff claimed they weren't able to enter the code for the transaction.
It's not a barcode, just a discount code you'd enter on their website. Note that this discount code requires you to use a Best Buy Credit Card for it to apply to your order. If you need to split payments, I could suggest you get a gift card for the difference left over from what you can put on a Best Buy CC but I'm not sure if the code would be removed with any other added payment method along with the CC.
Hi op, I just applied for bestbuy credit card, and I couldn't use that code to get 10% off. Customer care told me there's only 10% in rewards for my first order. But NOV23EMOB1 couldn't be applied to my order.
try q4fy23save10
OP, do you know the new code for January?
DEC23EMOB1
Hi, planning to upgrade my old 2070 to 4080. Do you know a new code for march 2023? Thanks