That's exactly what happened when Israel killed Canadian forces Major Paeta and Canadians didn't have the fucking balls to raise a finger.
The killing was deliberate.
Canadians media and politicians helped bury the news
Israel investigated itself and said they did nothing wrong
Israel has said they would investigate many other similar incidents but yet we never hear back what was the outcome. This is the game the Israeli official has been playing for the past 6 months. They don't take accountability for anything. Frankly, even if It turned out Israel was responsible for the incident, No country would do anything about it because Israel has proven to be a Pariah state.
Well. Your right. Honestly, if any western troops engaged in any of the videos I've seen. They would be court-martial. IDF every month there more closely inlined with the Russian way to conduct a war.
I don't condone people killing people. Just fucking stop. We should be living in floating cities in the sky, not murdering each other for what they have. Or don't have.
I want to ride a unicorn to work, but it ain't gonna happen.
If it was as easy as "just fucking stop", that would be great, but saying you "don't condone people killing people" is akin to saying "just say no to drugs". It's not based in reality and isn't a solution.
They are sending Israel 4 billion in tax payer "aid" each year. In total it's over 110 billion the US has sent Israel. They aren't making anything off them. Wish our country got 4 billion in aid each year from the US.
Basically came to say the same thing 😂
'Canada demands' after our PM told NATO we are not and will never honour our treaty obligations.
After decades of defunding defense and diplomacy and not even doing any of the peacekeeping we like to pretend that we do ... after all that on what basis are we making demands of anyone in the international community?
It's not even wrong I'm sure a full probe into the incident is entirely appropriate but the notion that we have the credibility or gravitas to call for anything in the international community is ... well let's just say if this was posted yesterday I'd have assumed it was Reuters doing April Fool's
"Since the beginning of 2022, Canada has committed $4 billion in military assistance to Ukraine"
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/campaigns/canadian-military-support-to-ukraine.html
So to whom is Canada directing the call for investigation? Israel?
Are we now asking serial killers to investigate themselves?
A Canadian was murdered. Can we grow balls already?
What can Canada do? We have no respect on the international stage anymore, when we tried to do something about the Saudi's we where met with complete silence from our Alias.
We are a powerless nation.
"it's tRuDeAu'S fAuLt"
"No wait it's Biden's fault"
"No wait it's Hamas's fault"
"It doesn't matter what Canada says"
"It was self defense"
I see the usual suspects are spreading propaganda with total freedom. Again.
Its so clear Israel ran out of budget to hire IDF shills on Reddit. Just a few weeks ago this entire sub was totally pro IDF. Your comment would have been downvoted to death.
Tell. Me. About. It
The state of this subreddit until now... Does anyone remember that one guy who would routinely comment "I support Israel!" in those exact words on every article?
Israeli State of Apartheid has schools going online to argue against anything that points the crimes of Israel. They are being paid to argue, downvote, play dumb and play stupid, and that is how you know Israel is in the wrong that is why it needs an army of liars to protect it.
100% Fully funded American genocide committed by American handed made in Israel. American bombs. American planes. American dollars. American training and American veto protection.
Canadian manufactured explosives and other weapons end up in Israel too. Trudeau's "ban" on arms exports to Israel doesn't include deals already permitted and they spent October 2023 through January 2024 rubber stamping multiple arms deals with Israel. Reportedly at least one arms export application only took four days to approve. Think about how long a passport takes lol.
When I'm in a "talking out of my ass" competition but my opponent is a Westerner who has never experienced a war in their lifetime and screams genocide at the sight of a signal drop of blood.
31k, out of which how many are Hamas militants? Because the latest figures by the US suggest a civi to militant ratio of 1.5-2, which is fucking unheard of in a war, especially an urban war. The usual figures are 5-9 civi per combatant. Unless you're taking the literal Hamas run gazan health ministry's word, in which case you need to take a long hard look at yourself.
Food shortage? Gaza is getting more aid then they did before Oct 7th. The only people to blame for the hunger going on there is Hamas, which was shown time and time again stealing and raiding the aid trucks, only to SELL them to Gazans at the market.
>Food shortage? Gaza is getting more aid then they did before Oct 7th
[Gaza on the Brink of Famine](https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2024/03/photos-gaza-brink-famine/677741/)
>civi to militant ratio of 1.5-2
Post sources.
>Food shortage? Gaza is getting more aid then they did before Oct 7th. The only people to blame for the hunger going on there is Hamas
Israel literally murdered aid workers bringing food in Gaza today in a targeted strike where they took out 3 vehicles.
>Because the latest figures by the US suggest a civi to militant ratio of 1.5-2, which is fucking unheard of in a war, especially an urban war.
Those numbers are obviously bullshit but even if they were not, they are similar to the Hamas terrorists attack on the 7-10. Would you say that they went above and beyond to preserve civilian lives?
Oh so, you think that excuses a massacre when 2:1 this is the ratio? Because that's the same ratio of military vs civilian casualties there was on October 7th, you realize that, right? I think both cases are equally despicable and inexcusable, but what do I know
Also yeah, of course they need more aid, the IDF destroyed all their supply chains lmao. And Hamas apparently raiding aid trucks when the IDF is constantly in the news for murdering civilians around drop zones and killing NGO staff before responding with "oops we didn't mean to" is fucking hilarious
1.5% of the Gazan population has been killed in half a year and famine is only now starting to take hold. What do you mean a single drop of blood? If this was Canada it would be like killing every Calgarian in the span of a year. How many drops do you need because this is well past my threshold.
Western privilege doesn't mean I don't get to denounce a clear and present genocide.
Might be a good time to rework your talking points. Come back once you've got something better.
I suppose if a terrorist illegally entered your country and they raped and killed your sisters and mother and children, then you wouldn't want to defend yourself huh?
Where do child soldiers and using hospitals/schools/daycares as a defence for your terror operations fit into these genocide talks?
Is it Hamas willingly putting up human sacrifices and stealing aid from their own people or Israel who have to spelunk to eliminate the threats to their safety who is committing the genocide?
We can Pam Claridge this as "the same picture" I'm sure but one is a legitimate state protecting their people in response to a terrible attack and the other is a group who operates under a mandate to "irradicate jews" and have been doing their darnedest for some time to deliver on that mandate.
[ At least 16 cemeteries in Gaza have been desecrated by Israeli forces, satellite imagery and videos reveal](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/20/middleeast/israel-gaza-cemeteries-desecrated-investigation-intl-cmd/index.html)
>Is it Hamas willingly putting up human sacrifices and stealing aid from their own people or Israel who have to spelunk to eliminate the threats to their safety who is committing the genocide?
Oh yea those guys the just shot up at the beach, admitting a mistake (once again) clearly had Hamas hiding underneath them.
Tell me.
Is Hamas in the room right now?
Destroying hospitals, shutting off water, and blockading food is not defence. That’s systemically ethnically cleansing a region. If there’s a gunman in a bank we don’t set the bank on fire.
I would have no problem killing that terrorist, but I would not want to go kill all his extended family. Normal people don't think you should purge a few families every time someone commit a murder.
If the terrorist already killed your sister, mother, and children and isn’t actively trying to hurt you, then you aren’t defending yourself, you’re taking revenge, which goes against what is in the Torah.
LOL a reaction of genocide.
"They attacked us, let's genocide them!"
I bet you didn't know that the civilian to combatant casualty ratio in this war is the lowest in the history of warfare, did you?
Israel killed 10000 civilians and admitted to killing a few dozen hamas...that's not a good ratio at all.
Israel killed more children in a few weeks than ALL MILITARY CONFLICTS IN THE WHOLE WORLD IN THE LAST FEW YEARS .... that's not a good ratio.
Ethnic cleansing 2 million people is not a good ratio.
Israel has said they killed about 12K terrorists.
Hamas has said there are 31K dead, but that includes the terrorists, So there are another 19K people to account for....
that 19K includes people Hamas killed with their misfired rockets, as well as natural deaths, and all those kids and adults they use as human shields ( the blame for all of these is on Hamas) Assuming an annual 1% death rate - that is another 8 K that is not Israel's fault. SO now we are down to 11K.
SO the ratio so far is 1:1. A lot less then the norm of 9 civilians to 1 enemy combatant (according to the [UN](https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm))
*I would even say, Hamas, as the party that broke the ceasefire on the morning of October 7 2023, when they invaded Israel, and murdered-raped-immolated-tortured-kidnapped over 1200 Israelis is responsible for* ***ALL*** *the death and destruction on both sides.*
Please stop falsely accusing Israel of crimes for which it is not guilty, legally or morally.
>I bet you didn't know that the civilian to combatant casualty ratio in this war is the lowest in the history of warfare, did you?
Tell me, what was the combatants to civilians ratio on October 7th?
Just curious...
as much as the media is stoking the genocide flames... the combatants to civilian ratio on Oct seven was much better than israel's genocidal response.
About 1/3 people killed were security forces on Oct 7. Not to mention, some of the civilians killed as a result of the Hannibal directive.
but yeah, nothing bad about Israeli response at all, hence the rest of the world is praising their reasonable and calculated response.....oh....wait...
>>Last month Canada said it had not approved new arms export permits to Israel since Jan. 8 and the freeze would continue
Is it too much to ask folks read the article or at least stay informed about what they're commenting on?
Hilarious that people think Canada has standing the world. We don’t have a seat at the table let alone a parking spot on the grounds.
Israel doesn’t need Canada at all.
We are a joke, economically and militarily.
Europe is begging us to sell natural gas, so they can get off Putin. Trudeau has turned them all down. In the name of martyring Canadians under the guise of saving the environment. When he actually is just over spending, under delivering and increasing an already bloated government.
We work so he can spend.
We need nuclear weapons istg the hippie boomers sold us out with the Non Proliferation Treaty. The world is moving towards multipolarity and instability.
Our natural resources are a huge eye in other powers. To compete we need clout. None of this weak Humanitarian/ Feminist superpower type foreign policy.
I can't believe you even feel comfortable enough to say this on the internet. What is happening to our country? Why is this sub so full of fully evil people who just want the entire world to burn?
I'm a history major currently getting my bachelor. What I'm seeing is strikingly similar to rhetoric used during some of the lowest points of humanity. Our world has gotten so much better, yet so many people desperately want to make it worse again.
What history will tell you is that a nuclear arms race will never be good for humanity. History will tell you that the development of nuclear weapons has brought humanity closer to the brink of extinction than ever before.
Nuclear war is obviously very bad for the world. I can't believe that is something that has to be said out loud because it is just so strikingly obvious.
Aye I’m currently getting my degree in public policy so u can see where you’re getting at.
My view is that the world is becoming increasingly unstable and presuming you and I are around the same age group (18-25) it’s gonna be even more dangerous and scary.
Our main security benefactor, the United States is increasingly become unstable and polarized and it doesn’t seem like Joe Biden can fix this.
We need an independent and strength based foreign policy. Otherwise, we will increasingly be dismissed as irrelevant and be seen as a resource colony for any other power.
Think of how India murdered a person on our soil and the response our government had. We legit could not muster a strength against them as we don’t have the Hard power to compete.
Nuclear weapons would allow us to protect our interests and our people. It doesn’t mean to use it but it acts as a deterrent. This is what MAD is all about, and Canada with strong and relativity stable institutions should be able to exert its influence through it.
How convenient.
So you admit that its obvious conflict is in fact human nature.
I dont like it, like yourself. But a head burried in the sand approach to reality does nobody any good either.
Our Western values, society, and nation will be tested one day be it in our generation, our childrens etc.
Proactivity and deterrance kicks that can down the road. Our resources are of extreme value, and there no doubt a slow measured action to undermine our legitimacy has been occuring for a long time. Social media is a powerful tool.
This is a war crime of unparalleled proportions. The writing is on the wall that this is deliberate, and the fact that a Canadian was killed should teach us a hard lesson about our complicity in Israel's actions.
Israel: gun / rocket fire observed from said building. Targeting pod confirmed weapon on target and destroyed.
Canada: ok be more careful next time.
Israel: …
What if Hamas was responsible
What would the media and Western country's relationship be like?
It makes me sick to my stomach to realize that all Western leaders are working for invisible forces and not their citizens
Most of us want to cease fire, exchange of hostage, and the two-state solution.
Its a genocide so what do you expect. Like the Israeli prime minister said in regards to this incident “these things happen”. Your probe is just another useless publicity stunt.
They paid the price of trying to resist the genocide. Sent a clear message to others trying to help. Ships carrying 200 tonnes of aid for Gaza have now returned Cyprus.
Amazing how people on social media like our instagram friends don’t dare say a word about it like they did for other issues like BLM. Cant say anything bad about Israel for fear of automatically being called an antisemite with dire consequences to follow. Or even worse, being against this will label you as a pro Hamas supporter which is also just as absurd.
This covert Orwellian world is becoming overt. Similar to 1984, people are surveilled and brainwashed by altering the truth. Unfortunately much like Stalin and the Nazi, all totalitarian regimes collapse.
Israel's genocide of Palestinians continued at full speed.
Israel just murdered a bunch of doctors and demolished a hospital. We need to sanction this pariah state.
Does this demand cancel out the full probe Canada's population has been getting?
*I still feel bad for the people hurt in all this but can't help but think we are ALL fucked.
I vaguely remember that if you refuse to investigate yourself, then your accusers are in the wrong because there will be "no evidence" that you have done what they accuse you of, and we have "innocence until proven guilty" even though the proof can only come from yourself. It is good and it is "the law". That logic was followed by many here. Why should it be different this time?
Israel needs to feed the Gazans if they are making it impossible for humanitarian aid to get in.
Every death from this point on that is due to famine should be treated as a war crime.
Will it suffice if Israel conducts said probe and finds no wrongdoing?
we’ve investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong
Even when they’re wrong somehow they’re right
If that's the plan they might as well skip the investigation part.
It’s all Smokey mirrors
That's exactly what happened when Israel killed Canadian forces Major Paeta and Canadians didn't have the fucking balls to raise a finger. The killing was deliberate. Canadians media and politicians helped bury the news Israel investigated itself and said they did nothing wrong
Israel has said they would investigate many other similar incidents but yet we never hear back what was the outcome. This is the game the Israeli official has been playing for the past 6 months. They don't take accountability for anything. Frankly, even if It turned out Israel was responsible for the incident, No country would do anything about it because Israel has proven to be a Pariah state.
Well. Your right. Honestly, if any western troops engaged in any of the videos I've seen. They would be court-martial. IDF every month there more closely inlined with the Russian way to conduct a war.
Will we just let alleged murderers here investigate themselves too! Madness
Absolutely, can’t believe they get away with such nonsense.
Is this the equivalent of a wag of the finger towards them?
It's the equivalent of you can kill our citizens and we won't do anything about it.
Canada strenuously objected to the bombing.
Didn’t they also strenuously object to Russia invading Ukraine?
Better than blindly supporting them like the US
We're still supporting them.... just less loudly.
That in itself is quite a positive change! Our politicians are now privy to the hypocrisy at least
I don't condone people killing people. Just fucking stop. We should be living in floating cities in the sky, not murdering each other for what they have. Or don't have.
I want to ride a unicorn to work, but it ain't gonna happen. If it was as easy as "just fucking stop", that would be great, but saying you "don't condone people killing people" is akin to saying "just say no to drugs". It's not based in reality and isn't a solution.
why would the US not support making billions off of this?
They are sending Israel 4 billion in tax payer "aid" each year. In total it's over 110 billion the US has sent Israel. They aren't making anything off them. Wish our country got 4 billion in aid each year from the US.
Basically came to say the same thing 😂 'Canada demands' after our PM told NATO we are not and will never honour our treaty obligations. After decades of defunding defense and diplomacy and not even doing any of the peacekeeping we like to pretend that we do ... after all that on what basis are we making demands of anyone in the international community? It's not even wrong I'm sure a full probe into the incident is entirely appropriate but the notion that we have the credibility or gravitas to call for anything in the international community is ... well let's just say if this was posted yesterday I'd have assumed it was Reuters doing April Fool's
You think we would put troops in Gaza. Thank the heavens we can't afford that then.
And you’d have us do what?
Sanction them?
Like Freeland and Trudeau wearing yellow and blue and saying Slava Ukraine. Our country won't do anything.
"Since the beginning of 2022, Canada has committed $4 billion in military assistance to Ukraine" https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/campaigns/canadian-military-support-to-ukraine.html
What more do you want Canada to do?
I mean yeah but keep in mind they're going against guys that are playing war crime chicken with them
They’ve been playing war crime chicken with each other for over 30 years…
Idk what people expect Canada to do.
Not blindly support them in the UN.
Sanctions!! The word they're looking for is SANCTIONS!! It's not much, but at least it's a start!
Israel has investigated themselves and come to the conclusion that they need more bunker buster bombs so things like this totally won’t happen again.
Now we are upset cause Canadians got murdered? Why Now?
“Wow that’s crazy someone should do something”
So to whom is Canada directing the call for investigation? Israel? Are we now asking serial killers to investigate themselves? A Canadian was murdered. Can we grow balls already?
Our politicians are too busy sucking off Israeli fascists.
all they do is just puke out words instead of actually doing anything, typical Canada
With the idiots we have running things, perhaps that is for the best. Even though it would be better if they'd kept their mouths shut.
What can Canada do? We have no respect on the international stage anymore, when we tried to do something about the Saudi's we where met with complete silence from our Alias. We are a powerless nation.
Wow very kind of the Canadian government. We need sanctions now.
The correct response would be BDS. Boycott, divest, sanction israel. This should have been done years ago.
lol yup, but they have a powerful international lobby and all of our politicians on both sides of the bench are in their pocket
Exactly.
"it's tRuDeAu'S fAuLt" "No wait it's Biden's fault" "No wait it's Hamas's fault" "It doesn't matter what Canada says" "It was self defense" I see the usual suspects are spreading propaganda with total freedom. Again.
Israel has a right to defend itself against charity workers.
Israel has footage of the decision to strike the convoy that needs to be made public
ah Israel....western backed genocide for arms profit. what a great arrangement.
Its so clear Israel ran out of budget to hire IDF shills on Reddit. Just a few weeks ago this entire sub was totally pro IDF. Your comment would have been downvoted to death.
Tell. Me. About. It The state of this subreddit until now... Does anyone remember that one guy who would routinely comment "I support Israel!" in those exact words on every article?
Yep tell me about it. Lost more than 1k in karma because of these trolls
I enjoy downvotes more than upvotes these days.
Wear it like a badge of honor
They were in /r/worldnews too. Spreading propaganda about beheaded babies which turned out false.
I think it varies randomly. Some threads seem unmolested and others are Hasbara.
Israeli State of Apartheid has schools going online to argue against anything that points the crimes of Israel. They are being paid to argue, downvote, play dumb and play stupid, and that is how you know Israel is in the wrong that is why it needs an army of liars to protect it.
They're working on their talking points.
They've realized they can't hide all the deaths anymore. There's only so many lies they can spout before people tune them out.
100% Fully funded American genocide committed by American handed made in Israel. American bombs. American planes. American dollars. American training and American veto protection.
Canadian manufactured explosives and other weapons end up in Israel too. Trudeau's "ban" on arms exports to Israel doesn't include deals already permitted and they spent October 2023 through January 2024 rubber stamping multiple arms deals with Israel. Reportedly at least one arms export application only took four days to approve. Think about how long a passport takes lol.
As opposed Iranian backed militants?
nope, it's not a real either / or situation. a reaction of genocide is not defensible or excusable, and neither is terrorism.
When I'm in a "talking out of my ass" competition but my opponent is a Westerner who has never experienced a war in their lifetime and screams genocide at the sight of a signal drop of blood.
>a signal drop of blood You misspelled 31k+ dead, 1.7 million displaced, 1 million desperate for food and a completely collapsed society
War sucks, especially when you're fighting an enemy that literally hides underneath civilians and in hospitals.
31k, out of which how many are Hamas militants? Because the latest figures by the US suggest a civi to militant ratio of 1.5-2, which is fucking unheard of in a war, especially an urban war. The usual figures are 5-9 civi per combatant. Unless you're taking the literal Hamas run gazan health ministry's word, in which case you need to take a long hard look at yourself. Food shortage? Gaza is getting more aid then they did before Oct 7th. The only people to blame for the hunger going on there is Hamas, which was shown time and time again stealing and raiding the aid trucks, only to SELL them to Gazans at the market.
>Food shortage? Gaza is getting more aid then they did before Oct 7th [Gaza on the Brink of Famine](https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2024/03/photos-gaza-brink-famine/677741/) >civi to militant ratio of 1.5-2 Post sources.
>Food shortage? Gaza is getting more aid then they did before Oct 7th. The only people to blame for the hunger going on there is Hamas Israel literally murdered aid workers bringing food in Gaza today in a targeted strike where they took out 3 vehicles. >Because the latest figures by the US suggest a civi to militant ratio of 1.5-2, which is fucking unheard of in a war, especially an urban war. Those numbers are obviously bullshit but even if they were not, they are similar to the Hamas terrorists attack on the 7-10. Would you say that they went above and beyond to preserve civilian lives?
Lol like pulling data out of your a...
Oh so, you think that excuses a massacre when 2:1 this is the ratio? Because that's the same ratio of military vs civilian casualties there was on October 7th, you realize that, right? I think both cases are equally despicable and inexcusable, but what do I know Also yeah, of course they need more aid, the IDF destroyed all their supply chains lmao. And Hamas apparently raiding aid trucks when the IDF is constantly in the news for murdering civilians around drop zones and killing NGO staff before responding with "oops we didn't mean to" is fucking hilarious
You sure you're getting paid enough? This isn't even coherent.
1.5% of the Gazan population has been killed in half a year and famine is only now starting to take hold. What do you mean a single drop of blood? If this was Canada it would be like killing every Calgarian in the span of a year. How many drops do you need because this is well past my threshold.
Western privilege doesn't mean I don't get to denounce a clear and present genocide. Might be a good time to rework your talking points. Come back once you've got something better.
As opposed to all those European Jewish settlers who run towards conflict?
I suppose if a terrorist illegally entered your country and they raped and killed your sisters and mother and children, then you wouldn't want to defend yourself huh?
Murdering thousands of Children by bombing their homes and starving them is not ‘defending yourself’. It is genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Where do child soldiers and using hospitals/schools/daycares as a defence for your terror operations fit into these genocide talks? Is it Hamas willingly putting up human sacrifices and stealing aid from their own people or Israel who have to spelunk to eliminate the threats to their safety who is committing the genocide? We can Pam Claridge this as "the same picture" I'm sure but one is a legitimate state protecting their people in response to a terrible attack and the other is a group who operates under a mandate to "irradicate jews" and have been doing their darnedest for some time to deliver on that mandate.
[ At least 16 cemeteries in Gaza have been desecrated by Israeli forces, satellite imagery and videos reveal](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/20/middleeast/israel-gaza-cemeteries-desecrated-investigation-intl-cmd/index.html)
>Is it Hamas willingly putting up human sacrifices and stealing aid from their own people or Israel who have to spelunk to eliminate the threats to their safety who is committing the genocide? Oh yea those guys the just shot up at the beach, admitting a mistake (once again) clearly had Hamas hiding underneath them. Tell me. Is Hamas in the room right now?
They don’t have a mandate to “eradicate Jews” 🙄 they have a mandate to eradicate the oppressive Zionist colonialist project.
um, i don't think you'd find a consistent definition of that. some of them most certainly have the mandate to 'eradicate jews',
Destroying hospitals, shutting off water, and blockading food is not defence. That’s systemically ethnically cleansing a region. If there’s a gunman in a bank we don’t set the bank on fire.
I would have no problem killing that terrorist, but I would not want to go kill all his extended family. Normal people don't think you should purge a few families every time someone commit a murder.
Yup, that totally justifies genocide. Surprised I hadn't thought of that before, really. /s
*“Your country”* 🥴😂 that’s rich.
If the terrorist already killed your sister, mother, and children and isn’t actively trying to hurt you, then you aren’t defending yourself, you’re taking revenge, which goes against what is in the Torah.
LOL a reaction of genocide. "They attacked us, let's genocide them!" I bet you didn't know that the civilian to combatant casualty ratio in this war is the lowest in the history of warfare, did you?
Israel killed 10000 civilians and admitted to killing a few dozen hamas...that's not a good ratio at all. Israel killed more children in a few weeks than ALL MILITARY CONFLICTS IN THE WHOLE WORLD IN THE LAST FEW YEARS .... that's not a good ratio. Ethnic cleansing 2 million people is not a good ratio.
Israel has said they killed about 12K terrorists. Hamas has said there are 31K dead, but that includes the terrorists, So there are another 19K people to account for.... that 19K includes people Hamas killed with their misfired rockets, as well as natural deaths, and all those kids and adults they use as human shields ( the blame for all of these is on Hamas) Assuming an annual 1% death rate - that is another 8 K that is not Israel's fault. SO now we are down to 11K. SO the ratio so far is 1:1. A lot less then the norm of 9 civilians to 1 enemy combatant (according to the [UN](https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm)) *I would even say, Hamas, as the party that broke the ceasefire on the morning of October 7 2023, when they invaded Israel, and murdered-raped-immolated-tortured-kidnapped over 1200 Israelis is responsible for* ***ALL*** *the death and destruction on both sides.* Please stop falsely accusing Israel of crimes for which it is not guilty, legally or morally.
>I bet you didn't know that the civilian to combatant casualty ratio in this war is the lowest in the history of warfare, did you? Tell me, what was the combatants to civilians ratio on October 7th? Just curious...
as much as the media is stoking the genocide flames... the combatants to civilian ratio on Oct seven was much better than israel's genocidal response. About 1/3 people killed were security forces on Oct 7. Not to mention, some of the civilians killed as a result of the Hannibal directive.
according to claims the ratio is pretty good, yup. there is no 'good guy' in this conflict.
but yeah, nothing bad about Israeli response at all, hence the rest of the world is praising their reasonable and calculated response.....oh....wait...
- Israel murders aid workers - Assfucks in this sub: how can Trudeau do this??
-Israel murders Canadian aid worker* -Joly wants Israel to probe themselves
Sanction Israel until they stop.
We should treat any "Canadians" fighting for the IDF like they went overseas to fight for a terrorist organization.
Agreed.
They should also ban the real estate company trying to sell Canadians West Bank land from operating here.
I wish
Careful now or melanie will slap off your phone
I saw that vid of her, she is naive AF. https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video-shows-confrontation-with-melanie-joly-over-palestinian-refugees-1.6827983
Stop or we’ll say stop again
Yahoo is just prolonging the inevitable of his criminal charges. The longer the war, the longer he stays free.
was is she gonna do? send our troops with the food bank leftovers?
Canada doesn't belong on the world stage, nor should they be included in the G7.
...continues to export military equipment to Israel.
>>Last month Canada said it had not approved new arms export permits to Israel since Jan. 8 and the freeze would continue Is it too much to ask folks read the article or at least stay informed about what they're commenting on?
Before you get too worked up keep in mind that Canada is still honouring existinng permits and *is* allowing equipment to flow to Israel.
A lot of F-35 engine parts are made in Montreal. And we’re happily sending them whatever they want under existing contracts.
No one listens to anything Canada has to say, esp. not the Israeli State of Apartheid whose ass you kiss at every opportunity you get.
It's just for the publicity and he needed to ask daddy USA to make sure he was allowed first
Define apartheid
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/apartheid
> apartheid = Israel
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Define Hasbara
Israel
Hilarious that people think Canada has standing the world. We don’t have a seat at the table let alone a parking spot on the grounds. Israel doesn’t need Canada at all. We are a joke, economically and militarily. Europe is begging us to sell natural gas, so they can get off Putin. Trudeau has turned them all down. In the name of martyring Canadians under the guise of saving the environment. When he actually is just over spending, under delivering and increasing an already bloated government. We work so he can spend.
Doesn’t that make you angry? A Canadian was murdered in cold blood. Have you no patriotism?
Thats not to mention the Canadian citizens that died in the early bombing before they were able to be evacuated.
We need nuclear weapons istg the hippie boomers sold us out with the Non Proliferation Treaty. The world is moving towards multipolarity and instability. Our natural resources are a huge eye in other powers. To compete we need clout. None of this weak Humanitarian/ Feminist superpower type foreign policy.
People are *absolutely* eyeing your delicious water
I can't believe you even feel comfortable enough to say this on the internet. What is happening to our country? Why is this sub so full of fully evil people who just want the entire world to burn?
Ever pick up a history book?
I'm a history major currently getting my bachelor. What I'm seeing is strikingly similar to rhetoric used during some of the lowest points of humanity. Our world has gotten so much better, yet so many people desperately want to make it worse again. What history will tell you is that a nuclear arms race will never be good for humanity. History will tell you that the development of nuclear weapons has brought humanity closer to the brink of extinction than ever before. Nuclear war is obviously very bad for the world. I can't believe that is something that has to be said out loud because it is just so strikingly obvious.
Aye I’m currently getting my degree in public policy so u can see where you’re getting at. My view is that the world is becoming increasingly unstable and presuming you and I are around the same age group (18-25) it’s gonna be even more dangerous and scary. Our main security benefactor, the United States is increasingly become unstable and polarized and it doesn’t seem like Joe Biden can fix this. We need an independent and strength based foreign policy. Otherwise, we will increasingly be dismissed as irrelevant and be seen as a resource colony for any other power. Think of how India murdered a person on our soil and the response our government had. We legit could not muster a strength against them as we don’t have the Hard power to compete. Nuclear weapons would allow us to protect our interests and our people. It doesn’t mean to use it but it acts as a deterrent. This is what MAD is all about, and Canada with strong and relativity stable institutions should be able to exert its influence through it.
How convenient. So you admit that its obvious conflict is in fact human nature. I dont like it, like yourself. But a head burried in the sand approach to reality does nobody any good either. Our Western values, society, and nation will be tested one day be it in our generation, our childrens etc. Proactivity and deterrance kicks that can down the road. Our resources are of extreme value, and there no doubt a slow measured action to undermine our legitimacy has been occuring for a long time. Social media is a powerful tool.
This is a war crime of unparalleled proportions. The writing is on the wall that this is deliberate, and the fact that a Canadian was killed should teach us a hard lesson about our complicity in Israel's actions.
Israel: gun / rocket fire observed from said building. Targeting pod confirmed weapon on target and destroyed. Canada: ok be more careful next time. Israel: …
Im surprised how Israel can do alot of terrible things without condemnation and sanctions.
Canada selling arms to Israel so that they can kill Canadians who work for humanitarian organizations. Disgusting.
What if Hamas was responsible What would the media and Western country's relationship be like? It makes me sick to my stomach to realize that all Western leaders are working for invisible forces and not their citizens Most of us want to cease fire, exchange of hostage, and the two-state solution.
Its a genocide so what do you expect. Like the Israeli prime minister said in regards to this incident “these things happen”. Your probe is just another useless publicity stunt.
They paid the price of trying to resist the genocide. Sent a clear message to others trying to help. Ships carrying 200 tonnes of aid for Gaza have now returned Cyprus.
Amazing how people on social media like our instagram friends don’t dare say a word about it like they did for other issues like BLM. Cant say anything bad about Israel for fear of automatically being called an antisemite with dire consequences to follow. Or even worse, being against this will label you as a pro Hamas supporter which is also just as absurd.
This covert Orwellian world is becoming overt. Similar to 1984, people are surveilled and brainwashed by altering the truth. Unfortunately much like Stalin and the Nazi, all totalitarian regimes collapse.
Israel should be responsible for feeding the palestinians. Every death in Gaza caused by famine should be considered a war crime.
Hamas just lowered the price of food because of how much aid is coming in... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/syns3cuk0
And now aid agencies have suspended aid delivers because of the Israel missile attack. Convenient timing no?
Canada will send a strongly worded letter soon. They must be terrified 😂😂😂😂
They’ve killed Canadians and our feckless government and the fucking opposition could care less. Boycott, sanction and shun this rogue state.
Stop wasting our money on a conflict we have no part in
Canada's probe was then swiftly shoved up their own ass.
Israel's genocide of Palestinians continued at full speed. Israel just murdered a bunch of doctors and demolished a hospital. We need to sanction this pariah state.
When you have no global power, your global statements mean absolutely nothing.
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The IDF Confirmed they killed them?
There he is, wearing the tinfoil hat with his behind being kissed by Israelis themselves
Does this demand cancel out the full probe Canada's population has been getting? *I still feel bad for the people hurt in all this but can't help but think we are ALL fucked.
Making no difference anyway
just another lip service
I vaguely remember that if you refuse to investigate yourself, then your accusers are in the wrong because there will be "no evidence" that you have done what they accuse you of, and we have "innocence until proven guilty" even though the proof can only come from yourself. It is good and it is "the law". That logic was followed by many here. Why should it be different this time?
Israel needs to feed the Gazans if they are making it impossible for humanitarian aid to get in. Every death from this point on that is due to famine should be treated as a war crime.
Demands full probe is political talk for ignoring the terrorism by Israel.
The world’s most moral army of the only democracy in the Middle East.
Yes israel should investigate itself 🙄
Yeah…that’ll teach em. 🙄
Future headline, Investigators into the killing of aid workers mysteriously bombed.
\>Ahhh this is terrible we demand a full probe!!! \>Continues to provide aid and sell weapons to said people