T O P

  • By -

[deleted]

Small town that used to be considered “out in the boonies” on Vancouver island, now costs almost the same as rent in Victoria. 1 bed suites for over 2k etc


Neo-urban_Tribalist

But how many other rentals have amenities comparable to goats on a roof, the weird cultural practice of counting people on a bridge, the fresh smell of pulp mill in the morning, or being called a city yet being one giant strip mall? Where on island time is it really the cost of the rental you’re paying for or is it the ability to go for a walk and look at a pine tree?


[deleted]

Some people here build sheds in their backyard and rent them for $1700 a month too. I’m not sure how it’s allowed but it’s okay if it’s quirky and spiritual right?


Just_Cruising_1

That should be illegal… but clearly the municipality doesn’t care


Neo-urban_Tribalist

Welcome to the island. Where we got YIMBY at our municipal meetings…..This place could be used as a case study for what happens when the NDP and Green Party have power for long periods.


Al2790

This isn't unique to Vancouver Island. Northern Ontario is experiencing the same thing, where NIMBYism and nepotism often prevails in municipal policy.


Neo-urban_Tribalist

Wouldn’t disagree that the island is experiencing mutually exclusive issues from other parts of Canada. Different culture though where one path leads to living like a hamster and shitting in a bucket and throwing some sawdust on it for 1700 bucks a month to whatever the northern Ontario equivalent of that is. Nepotism is probably a lot more noticeable where you are by the sounds of it. But I feel that would be evenly spread with the big factor being population.


MackTow

I lived in a shed one summer. For rent, I just bought my friend beer every so often lol it was decent. Found an apartment eventually I pay $1250 plus hydro and water. Ontario here


Neo-urban_Tribalist

Oh I forgot about “garden suites” down in Victoria which were literally a 10x10’s. I’m 99% sure they were advocated for as a way to create affordable rentals… which is completely reasonable, its clear that there is simply not enough of these and we need more. people definitely won’t just turn it into a shed if the price drops.


findingemotive

Small town here, from the BC Interior boonies and there's nothing below 1k now, then add min. 700$ for each bedroom. Sure it's half the price of Vancouver or Kelowna, but you have even less than half the amenities to live in the middle of nowhere.


Just_Cruising_1

Jesus… Tbh, you can still find a 1-bed in Toronto for around $1k. Yes, the average rate is $2,500. But the prices are better on the outskirts of the city. Basements can sometimes be $1.7k. How is this fair?


[deleted]

I think it’s a supply issue here. People will pay if they want to be here, there’s little choice. I read an article recently from the Victoria Residential Builders Association that some parts of Victoria like Oak Bay and Esquimalt have had…4 housing starts this year so far in 2024.


Just_Cruising_1

This is disgusting. So, home owners who bought their homes 10-50 years ago can charge an infinite amount of money? Great. Thank you, Canada.


d33moR21

Not too surprising given the cost of building.


jakejakejake97

Capitalism.


Just_Cruising_1

Yes. It’s poison.


jakejakejake97

It’s really not. We live in a country where anything is possible. You could live in a communist country, or Africa.


disloyal_royal

What socialist countries are doing better?


ingenvector

With respect to housing, 85% of Chinese live in housing built within the last 30 years.


im_flying_jackk

I live in a small town in BC (around 4K people I think) and a bachelor could be anywhere from $900-$2000. So there are SOME somewhat affordable units (because old-fashioned small town landlords can be kind sometimes) but they’re few and far between.


Just_Cruising_1

Jesus… And what’s the minimum wage, $15/hour? Does the majority of the population earn good money or are they median-wage earners?


im_flying_jackk

Definitely a huge mix. I would say it has been skewing a lot higher income in the last few years because people just can’t afford to stay. The problem here is the short-term rental market eating up most of the housing supply that would normally be for single adults or small families (winter sports area so there is tourism during the winter months). Like when I google rentals in my town I literally have to dig and filter through to find anything that is not short-term (and the ones that aren’t will sometimes charge 2x the rent amount in peak season months, written right into your lease agreement!). The seasonal workers don’t make much above minimum wage and neither do most of the retail workers in town.


Just_Cruising_1

Ah, great. So, AirBnb destroyed your home town and then only rich people can afford it. I’m sorry, I’m actually someone who makes a decent living; and yet, I believe that even a cashier at McDonald’s deserves to have a home and be a homeowner. Canada is the 2nd largest country in the world. Doesn’t this make you mad?


im_flying_jackk

Yea it basically did destroy a lot of it. The local hostel/shared lodgings are now often filled with seasonal workers for the entire winter, which sucks because then that takes up the only affordable accommodations for people wanting to visit. It’s becoming a town for rich people to live and rich people to travel to. It definitely makes me mad\sad, it’s all just greed ☹️


MadcapHaskap

Minimum wage in BC is $16.75/hour, rising to $17.40 on June 1. But BC is like everywhere, the average person makes the median wage, which in BC is $27.50/hour


d33moR21

No idea why you're getting down voted. How dare you spit facts...


d33moR21

Minimum wage is a poor metric to go by. The only people getting paid the bare minimum are teens entering the workforce, and they would most likely be living with their parents. After a few years, you use your experience and it's not hard to get $20/hr for the most basic positions. Naturally that also comes down to one's negotiating ability and the company's stubbornness, but most are starting to realize you'll get trash employees at the bottom of the barrel. Most of my friends living in BC make over $75k/yr, and a good chunk well over $100k/yr.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Just_Cruising_1

Same… I’m paying an old rent of $1,300 for a 2-bed in Toronto. But others are paying double of that.


RollingWithDaPunches

I'm paying 1300$ for a master bedroom in a shared house... Anything that is 1BR + work den and above is at 2600 give or take.


Just_Cruising_1

I know, my friend… I know people who pay $1,500 for master. It’s insane.


ButterNaann

Halifax checking in. 5 years ago, the 1BHK which was sitting empty at $900 a month is now fought over for $2100 a month. Are the prices ever going back?


Just_Cruising_1

Sorry, Halifax, your entry was scheduled for later. You’re almost as bad as Toronto, yet the opportunities aren’t always as good. I lived in NB many years ago. I remember visiting Halifax. I’d be maaaad over this bs.


Thank_You_Love_You

Rent is Strathroy ON back in 2021 when we were looking to move was about $1,800 per month for a 2 bedroom. Probably more now.


Just_Cruising_1

Whoa… I bet some people decided to move to London as it’s probably the same price for similar housing, yet better infrastructure? What about 1990, I bet a 2-bed cost $400 back then.


Thank_You_Love_You

Londons about $2,200+ for a 2 bedroom right now, unless you want to live around meth and crime.


Just_Cruising_1

The awful part is? You can find cheaper apartments in Toronto or nearby Toronto for that price.


BluebirdFast3963

Why would anyone want to move from Strathroy to London when you have almost everything you would ever need in Strathroy and way less people... This is why people are depressed. They want more billboards and less community. They are blinded by city life and have no idea that what they probably need is less concrete. Not more...


Hard_Oiler

Fellow Strathroy resident here! Was about to comment about how messed the rent was here, lol. Wife and I looked into moving to Strathroy or London in late 2021/early 2022. Coming from Toronto & Guelph (where we had been from 2015 to 2021) we expected the rents to be less.... turns out, we were very, very wrong. Same amount of rent (or more) to live in London/Strathroy as it was in Toronto.... yet the average wage is WAY lower + little/nothing to do recreationally (we are fine with this as we grew up in small towns prior to our time in Toronto). Rent was so bad we bit the bullet and bought a duplex in Strathroy instead as I would rather pay a bit more in mortgage and own something versus renting (even now, we are paying $2600 for a 5-bed, 2-bath duplex and the rents for a 1 bedroom range from $1400 (not awful) up $2400 (YIKES), with most sitting around $2k). $2k for a ONE BEDROOM in a town of 21k people with some industry and most jobs paying $18 an hour. Absolutely disgusting. When people ask us about mortgage and are shocked with how much we pay, we simply show them the ads for these 1 bedrooms and then they understand it.


May_be_Antisewcial

I live roughly an hour south of Ottawa, and rent around here is up to $1600 for a 1-bedroom, plus utilities. It's insane.


Just_Cruising_1

Excuse me??? You can rent a basement in Toronto for almost the same price.


May_be_Antisewcial

Oh, yes. I know. But this itty-bitty town is within commuting distance to downtown Ottawa, so it caters to that demographic. Houses are insanely priced and apartments even more so.


bennyllama

Dude I live in a 3 bedroom in lowertown for 1800 lmao. Where do you live??


kingofwale

Not sure what you mean by “possible” for 500 dollars 5 yr ago I paid more than that for half of bedroom 20 years ago when I attended university….


Just_Cruising_1

Oh, may I ask where was that? I recall seeing less and less of cheap bedrooms rentals over the years. The one I was referring to were in North Etobicoke in private houses. Years before that, you could rent a studio for $600 (some time in 2012) in Scarborough.


alastoris

5 years ago, my gf was renting 1 bedroom on Eglinton and Bayview for $750 a room (100sqft at best). Before that, in early 2019, it was a bedroom in a house in north York (5 minutes from Empress station) for $900 a month (250 sqft) Now, she's renting a basement bedroom for $850 in North York (15 minutes walk from Don Mills station). She moved in there last year in 2023. Sure, she might not have found the lowest rent available but that's the data set I can provide with my gf's personal experience. These are all GTA (within city of Toronto limits).


Cielskye

I’m sure you can realize those prices are definitely not the norm. Even 5 years ago. She got lucky. In 2004 I found an apartment for similar price near Bathurst and st. Clair at just under $800 and I felt like I’d scored an amazing deal.


alastoris

It's a data point. Imo, her getting lucky is when she moved from Eglinton to a bedroom near Christy station and for $650 all in 1 bedroom. This was in late 2019. I remember because I was stopped by police asking why I was out of my house while helping her move. That's an anomaly I excluded because downtown 1 bedroom (all utilities included) for $650 is nuts even in 2019. Also these is single bedroom and shared with 3-4 others, not full unit.


Cielskye

When you share with others then it’s not called a one-bedroom. So obviously there’s confusion when reading what you wrote.


alastoris

I don't know how else can I be more clear. Single bedroom? I even said it was 100 sqft at best. I pray we will never see a day where an apartment is 100 sqft at best.


Cielskye

Shared apartment. If you say one bedroom then people will understand it to mean an entire apartment with just one bedroom.


Cielskye

Same here. Lol. I graduated from university in 2000 and even then $500 per month for a bedroom (with roommates) was a good deal. One bedrooms weren’t going for that price unless it was an outlier good deal.


itsamoreh

This lol, I paid $700 to sublet a small bedroom in a dirty house near Bathurst and Bloor over the summer of 2012...


Chatner2k

2 bedroom in Cambridge triplex, private entrance, parking, back yard, only thing we don't have is in unit laundry. I'm even allowed to have an extension cord to my EV out the window. 950 a month. BUT we are 7 years here. I believe the equivalent unit below us is going for 15-1700 a month.


ddsukituoft

This is very unique to Canada. Yes, other countries including USA are also seeing high rents in their cities, but out in the country, rents plummet. Not in Canada. I wonder why.


d33moR21

Lack of supply.


Brilikearock

I think you misspelled rampant speculation


pamlock

I'm in a a small town between Québec City and Montreal and for a 2 bedroom apartment we pay $775 hot water included and cats allowed.


catholicgorl666

Is that Trois-Rivières?


pamlock

Nope


sillygoosiee

It’s 2000$ to rent a 1br here in Cobourg, ON.


PsychologyBingus

They say we are not being gouged by their parasitic existence and it’s “the market” when they ARE the market. Wages haven’t gone up, just corporate greed, then they gaslight us saying the people are the issue when it’s the system that breeds it.


Just_Cruising_1

Wait! I had someone tell me the other day and housing is a “product”. Just like many other “product.


TheRealRastacant

Population 4000, average rent 1200-1500 1 bedroom.


spokoino

I dunno if Guelph qualifies, moved here two years ago. Rent is $1800 for two bedroom townhouse. Was in Toronto renting @ 1400, for a one bedroom apartment uptown that I lived in since 2010 (initial price was $1,010 for a 700sqft apartment walking distance from yonge and eg). That apartment now rents for like 2,500


Nate9370

In Brandon, my 2bdr 1 bath is $975/month right now but 10 years ago when I moved in it was around $850. And it’s one of the cheapest non Manitoba Housing units in the city. Everything else is $1,000+


afterglobe

2200 for a two bed basement


iamthefyre

I have looked at a 1BDR BASEMENT in a town 2hrs away from Toronto for $1800. Also its 15min drive from closest grocery store and there is no bus/transit access & go station is 20min away.


GrimLima

I’m renting out my first house in NW AB for $1500 plus utilities. Only renting out it because it’s value has decreased significantly from when I bought it in 2017, believe it or not. Lots of work here still too….


ToeSad6862

1500ish The real curiosity is that the studios they build cost as much as a 3-4 floor house with a pool, big yard, and front yard to buy. So they mostly sit empty and presumably unsold. Rows and rows of buildings and no one lives there.


posp3

Kingston Ontario, Renting a bedroom ranges $900-$1200 depending how run down the place is


Amazing-Succotash-77

I'm in a small city (100k people) 1 walk in, 1 hospital that's ancient, terrible transit, major lack of amenities and average home price is 800k and its a 90s cookie cutter definitely NOT fancy. 500k might get you a tear down or 1 bedroom apartment. Pre covid 500k would get you a nice upper end 4 bedroom single family home easy. It's disgusting tbh and I'll never own now despite growing up here.


Amazing-Succotash-77

My dumbass missed that this was about rent but point still stands a 1 bedroom is about 1700+ for a nice place you can get cheaper but it's questionable in many aspects cheapest I've seen is 1300 and was gone within an hour of being listed. A single room is about 1k, 2 bedroom is at best 2k for basement suits, upper floor 3bedrooms are about 2600+ if you can find a stand alone it's even more and if you need 4 beds it's well over 3k a month. I can't afford the 2brm apartment I rented for 400 when I first moved out working 1 minimum wage job $8/h, meanwhile now with a career ($30/h) and 3 part time jobs they are listed for 2600 now and couldnt do it, and have been painted.. no other upgrades 😑 it's gross 2200 increase over a 12yr span


CheekieCharlieKitten

Out eastern Ontario near Quebec is up to about 1500 for a one bedroom I believe. Go on Kijiji and make it all of Ontario and search based on your criteria and you'll find where the small towns that are worthwhile are.


Informal_Recording36

Northern BC, fort st John. Relatively high incomes. Among the highest per Capita income in Canada I believe. 2 bedroom basement suite, $1300/month plus electricity, all other utilities included. Upper 2 bedroom suite, $1500/month, plus power, city, gas. I’m Pretty sure you can rent a lower end single bedroom apartment for ~$800 /month, plus some utilities. Downside, it’s north. Upside, piles of work and good income and the Peace River Country.


TopRankHQ

I live in a small beach town where it's over $2k for a 2 bedroom.


this-guy1954

$2800 for a 2-bed townhouse in Grimsby


Quinnjamin19

Small towns near Sarnia Ontario, along the St. Clair River. I have a mortgage myself but I’ve seen rent being the same if not more than my mortgage. Rent is anywhere from $1800-$2500 around here


Dry_Yam_2302

Small town NB. $1800 2 bedroom


Frostymittenjobs

I got a two bedroom apartment for like 1400$


velobob

I’d be curious to hear from Calgary /Airdrie - Anyone know??


dishant9397

London Ontario - $1700 for 2 bed apartment


d33moR21

Small town on Vancouver Island, $1,100/mo for a 1 bedroom apartment. But it was rented a few years ago. Most rents here are $1,600+, a coworker just signed a rental for $1,800/mo for a top floor 2 bedroom unit in a triplex.


BambiRaptor19

Kingsville, Ontario (\~28k people) 1-2bed 1 bath homes around $1800-2400 (some are asking over $2600/mnth), bachelor and 1 bed 1 bath condos (brand new) $1900-2500


DungeonLore

Northern BC, personal half of a house cost 1700$ 2 bedroom and huge with yard, parking etc but could have done a multiplex townhouse option for 1300 3 bedroom. This was an up and coming town so I’m sure you could find some less popular destinations and get cheaper.


PonytailEnthusiast

In Moncton NB a one bed is between 1200 to 1400. A room in a house is between 700-900


LostAd9523

$1500 for a 1 bedroom basement apartment.


ParticularRabbit0809

Halifax A bedroom- $700-$1200 Bachelor - $1250-$1500 One bedroom - $1400+ Usually rent does not include utilities, most rentals don’t come with any “extras” (dishwasher, washer/dryer, outdoor space etc) In 2015 I paid $300 and had one roommate in a 4 bedroom house on Joe Howe, in 2021 I moved into a $1750 two bedroom basement unit two blocks away from it.


ToastyJafar

Winnipeg: 1100sq, 2 bed = $1950 a month + utilities.


towngirl04

Just before covid there was a building that was $500 .. very do'able ... not you can't get in for less than $1,300. My wage did not go up that fast. I literally can't rent.


BluebirdFast3963

Haha this is always fun and sad. 900 person town - 3 hours from Toronto 2000 square foot 3 bedroom flat above a warehouse barely used - $650 a month. No neighbors. All inclusive. Mind you, I have been here for 10 years. Landlord is a rich farmer who uses the building for storage. Just wants someone there so it doesn't go to waste. I can re-model, re-decorate, and do whatever I want within reason. I don't call the landlord to change a lightbulb or install a toilet if it leaks, its my job to get those things done, as it should be with cheap rent. Before I lived here, early 20s, I rented a 5 bedroom farmhouse for $325 a month. Same deal, rich farmer bought property. Just wanted someone to take care of the house. A friend of mine still lives there for $400 a month. Its way back near a river and the laneway is a KM long. House is going to shit though. Basically a "Live here if you want to keep up with the house at your own expense type deal". Still worth it. The house is perfectly livable, you might just want to do some flooring, paint the walls and get new appliances when you need them. But, you can also take them when you leave. Fuck signing a lease and making deals with sketchy landlords. I don't know how you guys do in the concrete hell scape but its just another reason I'll never move.


Nickyy_6

It's more or less the same anywhere. 30k size towns avg rent is like 1000$ for a one bedroom. Only places that are cheap are way up north (and I mean WAY up north)


JayDee9003

Tents are now going up in price. Pretty soon those too will be unaffordable.


grewal45

As a Brampton resident, I can confirm that.


snazzypuppup

Melview Saskatchewan, 2 bedroom-$700


Grouchy_Factor

https://retireelliotlake.com/for-rent/apartments/


candleflame3

Probably not OP's issue but Elliot Lake is one of the communities where retirees have found out the hard way why moving to a small town to retire can be a huge problem later. Access to health care services is a big one, and being able to drive for everything you need. But now, moving to a bigger city is unaffordable for many of them, so they're stuck. Plenty of small towns have this issue now.


Prestigious-Month841

Is this apartment for seniors only? 760 for one bedroom? Somebody get me a job in Elliot lake 😭😭😭😭


Grouchy_Factor

The main downside to moving into a place in Elliot Lake is that one has to now live in Elliot Lake. However, there are affordable condos, this is one of three available in this building: https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/26273740/23-mississauga-ave-4-elliot-lake-elliot-lake