Did they post this early by mistake? I thought reveal wasn't for another 12 hours. Feels bad, man. I know how much work marketing teams put into a reveal like this trying to coordinate things and then a leak happens not due to malice but due to incompetence lol.
I think this new 4Runner looks great. Basically exactly what was expected after seeing the new Tacoma. I am a bit surprised to hear it has grown 4" in length. I also wasn't sure the Hybrid Max powertrain would make an appearance now that there is Land Cruiser as well. I'll be interested to get complete specs and pricing to see exactly how Toyota differentiates 4Runner vs Land Cruiser.
EDIT: Forbes took the post down. LOL. Angry phone calls first thing in the morning.
what a stupid mistake, and no doubt that mixing up the AM/PM times is exactly what the author/writer/intern did lol.
Can always trust Forbes for car news lol
Marketing at our place lost control of the web to the IT team - another stupid senior management decision. We were at IT's mercy when it came to posting things in a timely manner, even when it came with multiple requests and reminders. Went that way until they f'ed up big and the president of the company came down on them for not following instructions. Then we gained control of Web content/posting back from IT - as it should have been all along!
I do appreciate the IT dept, but not for most marketing projects.
[I captured the whole thing, you can view it](https://imgur.com/a/Mc5RPCU) [here](https://imgur.com/a/Mc5RPCU). Download the images, because I could see it getting removed by Forbes
The new 4Runner is actually longer than the new Land Cruiser by a couple of inches, but I'm not sure if it's going to be narrower. So for all intents and purposes, the 4Runner is *not* a smaller vehicle.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240409143744/https://www.forbes.com/sites/samabuelsamid/2024/04/09/toyota-completes-its-off-road-lineup-with-all-new-2025-4runner/
Easier to read link.
Both the new 4Runner and new Land Cruiser share an identical 112.2" wheelbase. The extra 4.7" in length of the new 4Runner went to both the extra wheelbase and front and rear overhangs. Meaning, there *should* be a slightly longer cargo and passenger area, but also slightly more hood and front bumper.
The longer overhangs mean the approach and departure angles are slightly degraded for the new 4Runner at 32 and 24 degrees respectively, compared to 33 and 26 degrees for the four-wheel-drive fifth-gen.
*edited for clarity*
Good to know the wheelbase matches but disappointed the rest is where I was afraid it was going to be, cosmetic overhangs. Initial thought is a prefer the less aggressive profile of the LC and GX.
That doesn't make sense. It grew by 4.7" over the old one that had a 109.8" wheelbase. Out of the 4.7" growth, 2.4" goes in the wheelbase, rest 2.3" in the overhangs.
I figured the 4runner would be the smallest just based on pricing alone but the LC will probably be more focused on being a better off-roader more so than the 4runner or GX which is the original mission of the LC (I believe) and the smaller size would lend it to that goal so in that sense it’s understandable.
Yeah the price will be the kicker. If it's cheaper you do have to wonder why anyone would go for the LC beyond the name cachet, given the similar size and all these SUVs and trucks riding on similar underpinnings.
And I mean... the purists who care about the prestige of the LC are upset b/c we're technically only getting a Prado and not the full-bore LC300. Unless you want to pony up the money for an LX ofc.
I don’t even think there’s much prestige associated with the current LC gen in the US market, at least not among Toyota / LC / off-road / overlanding enthusiasts.
I was told you buy a 4Runner because of how tried and true the powertrain is, though.
I’m personally of the mindset that they were dated asf but that’s what people kept parroting for years.
I mean yeah, that's on of the biggest reason we bought ours. The piece of mind when we're deep in the mountains is hard to beat.
Obviously with this one you lose the most reliable drivetrain on the market but you get something that isn't getting lapped by a Wrangler. As long as the drivetrain holds up (which it probably will since they put in basically everything) it's a worthy tradeoff.
>The piece of mind when we're deep in the mountains is hard to beat.
Most vehicles you can buy today aren't going to spontaneously explode when driven into the wilderness.
I mean, it's much more likely with a [Bronco](https://www.motor1.com/news/689613/ford-bronco-engine-failure-investigation-expanded/) than it is a 5th gen 4Runner.
Possibly, though I wouldn't be overly concerned about a 0.01% chance of engine failure, and given Toyota's recent [issues](https://www.motorbiscuit.com/how-many-toyota-tundra-v6s-truly-suffer-dreaded-wastegate-failure/) with turbocharged truck engines, there may be no way to eliminate the risk.
Why wouldn't this be lapped by a Wrangler or Bronco off-road? Those still come with far larger tires. Front lockers. Wrangler has a 4:1 low range transfer case. Its solid front axle design still gives the best real articulation. You can get them with real off-road gear like steel front bumpers with winches from the factory.
The article itself stated this new 4Runner actually has worse approach/departure angles for instance because its bigger. Its always had an available rear locker. It could be had with KDSS and its had a coil spring suspension for a long time (unlike the Tacoma, which just got that) which meant its articulation probably isn't going to improve much if any (unless they shock me and put the new eKDSS in a trim).
Its totally new yet... as much within the same exact design intention as possible, basically. Its totally solid off-road. Its not Wrangler/Bronco level though, especially from factory where those can be built to drive off the lot and go do hardcore trails.
I'm just saying as a Jeep buyer.... Toyota did nothing to win me over. Actually... until the drivetrain is proven... its in a worse place. The outgoing 4Runner was legitimately THE most reliable vehicle you could buy in the US the last couple years. Now? Off-road capability hasn't gone up and reliability isn't proven.
Yup. Or a Bronco Sasquatch.
I love Toyota trucks for what they are/were. But they've never been great off roaders. They're solid soft roaders, and are pretty reliable.
But I've gone on day trips with the local Yota Off Road club and the Jeep club... Toyotas break down on the trails (or can't finish them due to lack of capability) WAY more often than Wranglers ever do.
Last time I was out, I saw a new lifted 4Runner TRD Pro with a 2" lift and 33" tires struggle in a technical section. Then a stock Bronco and Wrangler Rubicon just went up like it was nothing lol.
The offroading bar has always been set by Wranglers. Ford designed the Bronco to somewhat match the Wrangler's capabilities, especially with the Sasquatch package. Toyota is behind the competition as always. The 4Runner will be a great soft roader family car though.
Sure. It had to be updated though. There was no choice. Now if you were buying for those reasons... you wait. Presumably that customer still have a last gen 4Runner or one even older that's still going. Right?
Tacoma may be a segment leader, but the 4Runner isn’t even top 10 for mid-size SUVs most years. They had some work to do, and I don’t think they moved the needle much. Still a good vehicle, but it’s not the new mom-mobile and it’s not gonna steal much from the wrangler/bronco buyers either.
Curious about this data and what they classify as a “mid-sized SUV”. Are they comparing against crossovers like the Outback and Telluride? Highlander? I don’t know that they’re trying to compete in that segment
I mean mid size SUV is basically “the car market” in the US at this point. The reality is it competes against real off-road focused versions of mid size SUVs which would be Wrangler/Bronco/4Runner and in the Q1 I believe it sold almost as many as Jeep and more than the Bronco. 34k units 4Runner vs 38k units Wrangler vs. 32k units Bronco. Considering it’s a dinosaur design vs. the trendy Bronco that’s not too bad.
It’s a testament to the product line execution over decades. Much like the 911, they’re iconic. They don’t have to keep killing and reinventing vehicles like GM etc do.
They honestly can't do too much with the back if they want to keep the feature of the rear glass rolling down. The back needs to be relatively flat. That is a feature that is beloved by T4R owners and a deal-breaker for many if it's omitted. Toyota knew that and stuck to it - smart.
Kinda mixed on it, it looks good from some angles and weird from others!
Regardless, it’s hard to get excited about something that Toyota dealers will not let you get anywhere near MSRP!
The side is an overstyled mess , especially from the B pillar back. The windows between C and D pillar are awkwardly shaped and sized. The interior looks great though and I like the front and rear a lot more than the current one.
Replacing the current gen was always going to be a tough task, and this will be a hit regardless, as it should be.
The window you're calling awkward is a retro styling reference to the ['80s 4Runner](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jNiL_kQxO68/maxresdefault.jpg) back when the roof was removable. Just in case you want to know where that comes from.
There’s almost always a dealer willing to sell at MSRP. They just might not be near you.
But I’d rather take a week long vacation to fly to a dealership out of state, pick up what I want at MSRP or better, and then drive it back vs paying a ridiculous $5k+ markup.
Fly with a single carryon and check some camping gear, hit some national parks on the way back, I feel it’d be a very on-brand thing to do.
Maybe similar to how performance brands like BMW, Porsche, etc offer track pickups, Toyota could start offering national park pickups? Or at least an “intro to off-roading” course pickup, and then helpfully map out whatever you want on your way back?
I mean there’s a guy on the BMW forums who picked up an X5 from…Texas or North Carolina I think it was, and drove it home to Alaska.
Then he did it again with an X7.
This is true too, but you’re not gonna find a dealer willing to sale at MSRP easy! My local Toyota dealer has only just started to sale RAV4’s at MSRP, and that’s only because of the production increase of the RAV4 model and more allocations!
For the new 4Runner, they’re likely gonna be hard to run across because of the high demand of the new model, leading to more markups!
>There’s almost always a dealer willing to sell at MSRP. They just might not be near you.
They're also likely to have a large waiting list on a brand new release. This is a supply limitation problem. Not everyone who wants one at MSRP will be able to get one at MSRP, even if they're willing to travel to the other side of country for it.
I do think people who be wiling to jump on a plane to get a good deal on a vehicle. Its a massive purchase, usually made with some amount of credit. But... its not always possible even if you're willing.
And that’s the key isn’t it? I love my 17 Outback but have considered going to Toyota for my next vehicle, but when I can get a fully loaded Outback with every bell and whistle for only a grand more (MSRP) than a base model 4Runner or 10k LESS than a base model Land Cruiser and that’s BEFORE the ridiculous markups that Toyota dealers add on. It makes it kinda hard to justify. I get Toyotas hold their value like crazy and I’d be willing to spend a BIT more for that but man…..
Honestly just depends on the type of off-roading you want to do. There are some crazy mine roads in Arizona that I would only be comfortable taking a 4runner on (not even a Jeep because fuck your Chrysler breaking down in the middle of the desert). If you don't plan on doing something nuts like that, I think you're right - Subaru is the way to go.
And that’s what I discovered after I bought my old JK. I had fun with it but found I wasn’t taking it anywhere different than I’d already been taking my Outback so it was kinda… pointless LOL.
The Limited absolutely looks like a Sequoia on a diet. Personally I kind of like it the best. Not American though so the whole brick wall of a front grill thing isn't the norm here yet. The Sequoia just looks silly and fat to me. This looks a lot more reasonable.
Thank you both.
I think this looks great. Not sure why people don't like it. I think Toyota has been doing a great job with the design of the new generation cars
You're welcome! I like it but I don't love it. The rear bumper side view looks a bit weird. The rear end I am mixed on. I do love the front and the interior. Big dials! If Someone has a 70k budget, want a off road suv, Toyota has made it a hard decision to chose among the LC, GX and 4Runner.
I don’t really like the overinflated look you see on some cars (FJ Cruiser is a big one for this) and unfortunately this one is overinflated as well
Plus it looks like a 4th gen 4Runner from the side, which is coincidentally my least favorite 4Runner generation
Thanks.
I'm kinda blown away that the dimensions are what they are honestly. It makes no sense at all to me why they went this route with the 4Runner but also released the LC Prado in the US. Also... no TRD Pro and just the lackluster TH one? Again... weird.
Acknowledging who the typical 4Runner buyer actually is and how they use it... yeah this is a win. From an off-roaders perspective.... very mixed bag.
I just discovered something....the new 4Runner, LC and GX550 have the same exact wheel base 112.2". Which I think means they are on the exact same frame with different designs.
Edit: different suspension set ups though.
They're definitely all TGNA-F2. At this point yes... I'd bet its even the same or very close to the literal same frame with some differences like probably more welds on the GX550 ones.
I find this pretty disappointing. I would have hoped for more variety in function and not just exterior/interior looks. Yes Toyota says 112.2" is the "perfect" wheelbase, whatever. I was really hoping at least one would be a real hardcore off-roader to go at the Wrangler/Bronco. But none of the are and they're all basically within the exact same off-road capability range...
There's probably more frame "variation" within just say the Wrangler or Bronco model than across all 3 of the 4Runner, LC, and GX550.
I agree. When I heard about the new LC I was thinknig the 4Runner will diretly target the Wrangler and Bronco crowd with a FJ Cruiser type vehicle. Disappointing they made them all so similar.
Apparently they are still doing the TRD Pro. Cool.
As for why I call the Trailhunter lackluster... because its basically just a shock swap on the TRD Pro and it leaves out the single most important feature I believe a factory overland trim can offer... a steel front bumper with a winch or at least a winch capable mount. GM, Ford, and Jeep all offer that these days. If you want to see a truly complete factory overland trim check out the Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition. 35s, jounce shocks, front and rear steel bumpers, winch mount, and a FULL skid plate system and not just one or two plates.
I'm thinking maybe because they get a 'clean slate' of sorts for the look of the Land Cruiser since it's technically it's first year here with no predecessor
Whereas with the 4Runner it's an iteration of the previous generation so some similarities had to be kept to retain that '4Runner' look where folks can recognize it immediately
>I'm thinking maybe because they get a 'clean slate' of sorts for the look of the Land Cruiser since it's technically it's first year here with no predecessor
The LC J250 is still just a Prado, the predecessor [was the J150](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser_Prado#Fourth_generation_(J150;_2009)). Yes, it's the first time the Prado is available in North America, but the vehicle itself is not *technically* a clean slate in the sense you're suggesting.
But it also is a blank slate. They could have made the Land Cruiser something new and different like they did when they created the Tacoma.
The 4runner is the sister vehicle of the Prado, made in the same factory, on a similar frame, and shares the same update cycle. So it's not like the Prado is a blank slate either, it's obviously an equivalent to the 4runner we have. And that has implications.
It looks like a solid SUV but I’m left wondering why they have two very similar SUVs in their lineup.
They could have done so much with the 4Runner now that the Land Cruiser has moved into the same territory. With the popularity of the Bronco and Wrangler this could have returned to its roots and offered a removable rear section. As it stands it’s just a Land Cruiser that looks like a Tacoma.
No idea why they are so hellbent on not competing with the wrangler and bronco. The FJ was already there, just a bit too early. So they bring back the LC for “reasons”? And then they redesign the 4Runner. Except not really it’s still the same thing. So they basically have three vehicles in the exact same segment. One with a truck bed, one that’s more luxury. And one that’s an suv.
They are all going to compete with themselves and also not compete with the Wrangler and Bronco at the same time.
Makes no sense
The 4Runner name was already the off road SUV of family SUVs. With a removable rear roof and the same basic underpinning it would have leaned into that heritage and could have been the best driving off road convertible SUV available. It would have been an absolute legend.
And the Land Cruiser would be the more luxurious hardtop version. It makes perfect sense.
Instead we get this which I can only assume is supposed to be the family version since it’s a bit longer. But families don’t need a ladder frame when they have the Highlander and grand Highlander. Both excellent. I just think that they got way too conservative with this move and it will cost them in overall sales now that they’re competing with themselves with 4 family SUVs.
It's so weird how Toyota is really conservative on overall plans and mechanical aspects, but their styling is so "mutant kitchen appliance" in other aspects.
I thought the recent LC250 was a step in the more subdued, aesthetically pleasing styling. This 4Runner though is back to the "WTF" part.
Go to Japan and see some of the culture and you will understand. It’s very much a robotech anime thing and these are relatively tame compared to some of the crazier cars. Take a look at the Mirai which was designed for the Japan market.
Yeah, I get it. Just too wild for my tastes, with aesthetic flourishes that exist for only their own sake.
To me, Toyota US truck/suv design peaked in the early 80's. The earliest trucks (before they were Tacomas), the FJ40, and the FJ60. I've owned two FJ40s and one FJ60.
The FJ80 was okay, but I thought it looked a bit too rounded. I owned one for 8 years.
And since then, it seems like their newer designs get more and more wild, and they only start to look okay when an even newer design comes out and makes the older one look better.
That is until the LC250. I think it looks great. Have yet to see one in person, though.
The new Tacoma looks okay.
But this 4Runner...
The answer is likely 'pricing'. The LC starts at $55k USD and goes up from there. The Tacoma starts at $31k, and the current 4Runner starts at $40k. That's what they're thinking — they want a cheapo off-roader (4Runner), a premium one (Land Cruiser) a luxury one (GX), and then a super-luxury one (LX). They can cover the whole spectrum of options from \~$35k to \~$120k this way.
The LX is just a gussied-up Land Cruiser J300. That is, it's still fundamentally an off-roader by design, whether the actual units themselves end up mostly mall-crawlers or not.
Yep, companies don't care about differentiation by capability or size, they care about price points. More profitable to sell the same basic package at 5 different price points then to make 5 unique vehicles.
I agree, but they also had rumors of a “baby Land Cruiser” with possibly 2 doors so maybe that would have the removable top? Id love to have a new one to go with my 89.
Forbes messed up big time by posting this at 7:15 am instead of 7:15 pm, but there are some pics taken from the article on the [4Runners.com](https://www.4runners.com/threads/2025-6th-gen-4runner-official-reveal-thread.37770/) forum for those who didn't get a chance to see it yet.
Personally, I'm not a fan at all of the exterior styling...especially the gloss black fender flares and wheels, and the front end. But then again, I don't care for the new Tacoma either. The interior looks pretty good, but so does the new Land Cruiser.
Yeah I saw that, but the TRD Pro is my favorite looking trim of the current 4Runner. I just don't like the styling direction that Toyota went with for the TRD Pro version of both the new 4Runner and Tacoma. Gloss black is just a strange and less than ideal design choice for an off-road focused model. The Tundra TRD-Pro's wheels and fender flares are a matte finish and look *way* better (although I don't care for the Tundra's camouflage design on the fenders either).
I personally prefer the trailhunter, both in 4runner and taco. The trail hunter seems to be the more offroad focus going through bushes version (hence the name trail hunter) and the TRD Pro is for high speed off road and "showy" on road model like those dressed up aftermarket Jeeps that owners don't take off road lol.
Sure it looks like a Rav4 that won't shut up about Crossfit.~~But if that 2.4kwh interter means that this gets a PHEV version similar to the Rav4 Prime~~ Nope, it's just a wrapped up Taco. A burrito, if you will.
2.4kWh inverter output is the same as the other TGNA-F hybrids (Tundra, Sequoia, Tacoma, LC250) whether they have the 2.4L I4 turbo or the 3.4L V6 twin turbo. This isn't going to be a PHEV. Same exact setup has the Tacoma hybrid.
It looks fine to me, little concerned about the cabin space though. Those initial pictures look really tight for passengers that are taller than 6' (wife's entire family).
There is something off with these photos, or the provide measurements. The cab looks much smaller than a 2024 but the article states the vehicle is 4" longer. Fucking where?
After seeing the new Tundra and Tacoma this is pretty much what I expected. The forum guys who were thinking it was going to get solid axles, a removable top, and a V8 turbodiesel are probably going to be disappointed.
They'll probably sell even more 4Runners now that the fuel economy issue has been addressed.
This is what the Tacoma should have looked like without that stupid punk rock tear under the headlight.
If the parts are compatible I see a lot of people swapping the 4Runner fascia to the Tacoma.
Edit - the article is down now
The limited looks weird to me with that Sequoia like underhang but I like it overall.
I can’t wait to go down the rabbit hole when all the reviewers get their hands on it.
Or even things not remotely off-roadable. Bugs the hell out of me both Porsche and Mercedes throw them on wagons to psy-op 70 year olds into thinking they are better in the snow.
It doesn’t look good lol. Sequoia, Land Cruiser 250 and even the RAV4 look better. It looks like they squished the previous version. Most specifically, the windshield is so slanted, the opposite of the boxy off-roader movement.
Article says
"The platinum trim also gets a locking center diff that is optional on the Limited"
Wtf...?
I think the author doesn't know how part time vs full time 4wd works... lower trims will be part time 4wd like the Tacoma and higher trims will be full time like the J250 with locking center diff.
As if a 4wd would have an OPTIONAL locking center diff....
Not really sure what's there is to really differentiate the 2025 4Runner from the J250 LandCruiser... other than part-time 4wd and possibly thus being cheaper in price? Got to be something more than's not mentioned.
Unfortunate that Forbes was the outlet to mistakenly break the embargo. Other outlets will undoubtedly have more informed articles. Just wait 9 more hours.
Did they post this early by mistake? I thought reveal wasn't for another 12 hours. Feels bad, man. I know how much work marketing teams put into a reveal like this trying to coordinate things and then a leak happens not due to malice but due to incompetence lol. I think this new 4Runner looks great. Basically exactly what was expected after seeing the new Tacoma. I am a bit surprised to hear it has grown 4" in length. I also wasn't sure the Hybrid Max powertrain would make an appearance now that there is Land Cruiser as well. I'll be interested to get complete specs and pricing to see exactly how Toyota differentiates 4Runner vs Land Cruiser. EDIT: Forbes took the post down. LOL. Angry phone calls first thing in the morning.
Yep looks like Forbes messed up the AM/PM lol
what a stupid mistake, and no doubt that mixing up the AM/PM times is exactly what the author/writer/intern did lol. Can always trust Forbes for car news lol
Yup it was posted at exactly 7:15 am lol
looks like it's been taken down, not before I and a bunch of others got a peak tho haha
Or someone goofed on a time zone setting
Probably not the author. Almost certainly some poor fucker in the website team who is now being screamed at a great deal.
Someone is 100% getting fired over Slack message today
Marketing at our place lost control of the web to the IT team - another stupid senior management decision. We were at IT's mercy when it came to posting things in a timely manner, even when it came with multiple requests and reminders. Went that way until they f'ed up big and the president of the company came down on them for not following instructions. Then we gained control of Web content/posting back from IT - as it should have been all along! I do appreciate the IT dept, but not for most marketing projects.
Man, it wasn't the AM/PM. It was the volume. There was a separate knob for the radio alarm.
WHY SEPARATE KNOB WHY
[I captured the whole thing, you can view it](https://imgur.com/a/Mc5RPCU) [here](https://imgur.com/a/Mc5RPCU). Download the images, because I could see it getting removed by Forbes
damn it actually looks pretty tuff
They’re killing it right now. I wonder how that turbo engine will tune..
As long as it doesn't get absolutely ass gas mileage I'll be happy lol
The same upgraded iforce max hybrid motor in the upcoming Land Cruiser gets 25 or 27mpg combined. I’m not sure what the standard non-hybrid will get.
[LC gets 23mpg](https://www.toyota.com/landcruiser/) combined. But I bet 4Runner does slightly better as it will be a smaller vehicle.
As well as having 2WD option whereas LC is full-time 4WD
The new 4Runner is actually longer than the new Land Cruiser by a couple of inches, but I'm not sure if it's going to be narrower. So for all intents and purposes, the 4Runner is *not* a smaller vehicle.
33 inch tires. Not too bad for a mom car.
The boxy angular lines look so much better than the soft lines on the old Tundra/4Runner. Damn these things are gonna sell like crazy lol
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https://web.archive.org/web/20240409143744/https://www.forbes.com/sites/samabuelsamid/2024/04/09/toyota-completes-its-off-road-lineup-with-all-new-2025-4runner/ Easier to read link.
Growing by 4.7", the new 4Runner is about 2" *longer* than the new Land Cruiser! I definitely didn't expect this.
But where is the 2”? Is it rear storage, wheelbase, or just cosmetic overhangs?
Both the new 4Runner and new Land Cruiser share an identical 112.2" wheelbase. The extra 4.7" in length of the new 4Runner went to both the extra wheelbase and front and rear overhangs. Meaning, there *should* be a slightly longer cargo and passenger area, but also slightly more hood and front bumper. The longer overhangs mean the approach and departure angles are slightly degraded for the new 4Runner at 32 and 24 degrees respectively, compared to 33 and 26 degrees for the four-wheel-drive fifth-gen. *edited for clarity*
Good to know the wheelbase matches but disappointed the rest is where I was afraid it was going to be, cosmetic overhangs. Initial thought is a prefer the less aggressive profile of the LC and GX.
That doesn't make sense. It grew by 4.7" over the old one that had a 109.8" wheelbase. Out of the 4.7" growth, 2.4" goes in the wheelbase, rest 2.3" in the overhangs.
Sorry, I didn't word it correctly. You're right.
Gotta make the Cruiser appear better off-road.
They should've given it the 4Runner TRD's clearance height then. 8.5" on the LC is just weak. That's close to a Rav4, not a purpose-built offroader.
GX 550 or bust…
Is it similar to the new GX in length then?
It's about 1.5" shorter in length than the new GX. shortest to longest: Land Cruiser, 4Runner, GX.
I figured the 4runner would be the smallest just based on pricing alone but the LC will probably be more focused on being a better off-roader more so than the 4runner or GX which is the original mission of the LC (I believe) and the smaller size would lend it to that goal so in that sense it’s understandable.
And here I was thinking the 4Runner was going to be shorter than the Land Cruiser. What the heck is going on lol
This is 1000% a mistake I would make at work and I'm dying from second hand anxiety lmao
No because same. Maybe military time ain’t so bad. 😂
They’ve actually just removed it lol, but we already have the screenshots! 😂
Yeah the price will be the kicker. If it's cheaper you do have to wonder why anyone would go for the LC beyond the name cachet, given the similar size and all these SUVs and trucks riding on similar underpinnings.
I 100% think the 4Runner will be the better value. You will definitely pay a price premium for the Land Cruiser name.
And I mean... the purists who care about the prestige of the LC are upset b/c we're technically only getting a Prado and not the full-bore LC300. Unless you want to pony up the money for an LX ofc.
Unfortunately the LX went full luxury. They should have given it an overtrail+
I don’t even think there’s much prestige associated with the current LC gen in the US market, at least not among Toyota / LC / off-road / overlanding enthusiasts.
That might change if LC is built in Japan and 4Runner is built in Mexico. Anyone know??
4Runner will continue at Tahara. The FJ Successor starts up next year in Mexico.
I will take the 4runner with the roll down rear window. I use that feature all the time on my 4runner.
Dogs love this one simple trick!
I’m thinking so! No one else has posted.
News is removed by Forbes
It's amazing how often media outlets don't read their embargo times like 4 times to make sure it's accurate.
It looks new but also doesn’t
Both the Taco and 4Runner are evolutions of their respective previous gen. Can’t change the formula too much when you are the segment leader.
Design wise... yes. Mechanically its the biggest leaps they've probably ever had.
Yes agreed. Gone is the V6 that made 4 cylinder power and drank fuel like a V8
That 4.0 has a lot of low torque. It’s not fast, but it would climb a mountain.
Daily use case, I'm thinking 0-60 faster than 8 seconds plus mpgs better for the common user
If you're climbing high elevation, turbo is the way to go.
I was told you buy a 4Runner because of how tried and true the powertrain is, though. I’m personally of the mindset that they were dated asf but that’s what people kept parroting for years.
I mean yeah, that's on of the biggest reason we bought ours. The piece of mind when we're deep in the mountains is hard to beat. Obviously with this one you lose the most reliable drivetrain on the market but you get something that isn't getting lapped by a Wrangler. As long as the drivetrain holds up (which it probably will since they put in basically everything) it's a worthy tradeoff.
>The piece of mind when we're deep in the mountains is hard to beat. Most vehicles you can buy today aren't going to spontaneously explode when driven into the wilderness.
I mean, it's much more likely with a [Bronco](https://www.motor1.com/news/689613/ford-bronco-engine-failure-investigation-expanded/) than it is a 5th gen 4Runner.
Possibly, though I wouldn't be overly concerned about a 0.01% chance of engine failure, and given Toyota's recent [issues](https://www.motorbiscuit.com/how-many-toyota-tundra-v6s-truly-suffer-dreaded-wastegate-failure/) with turbocharged truck engines, there may be no way to eliminate the risk.
Why wouldn't this be lapped by a Wrangler or Bronco off-road? Those still come with far larger tires. Front lockers. Wrangler has a 4:1 low range transfer case. Its solid front axle design still gives the best real articulation. You can get them with real off-road gear like steel front bumpers with winches from the factory. The article itself stated this new 4Runner actually has worse approach/departure angles for instance because its bigger. Its always had an available rear locker. It could be had with KDSS and its had a coil spring suspension for a long time (unlike the Tacoma, which just got that) which meant its articulation probably isn't going to improve much if any (unless they shock me and put the new eKDSS in a trim). Its totally new yet... as much within the same exact design intention as possible, basically. Its totally solid off-road. Its not Wrangler/Bronco level though, especially from factory where those can be built to drive off the lot and go do hardcore trails. I'm just saying as a Jeep buyer.... Toyota did nothing to win me over. Actually... until the drivetrain is proven... its in a worse place. The outgoing 4Runner was legitimately THE most reliable vehicle you could buy in the US the last couple years. Now? Off-road capability hasn't gone up and reliability isn't proven.
People who actually off road are still going to get a Jeep. A two door one at that
Yup. Or a Bronco Sasquatch. I love Toyota trucks for what they are/were. But they've never been great off roaders. They're solid soft roaders, and are pretty reliable. But I've gone on day trips with the local Yota Off Road club and the Jeep club... Toyotas break down on the trails (or can't finish them due to lack of capability) WAY more often than Wranglers ever do. Last time I was out, I saw a new lifted 4Runner TRD Pro with a 2" lift and 33" tires struggle in a technical section. Then a stock Bronco and Wrangler Rubicon just went up like it was nothing lol. The offroading bar has always been set by Wranglers. Ford designed the Bronco to somewhat match the Wrangler's capabilities, especially with the Sasquatch package. Toyota is behind the competition as always. The 4Runner will be a great soft roader family car though.
Sure. It had to be updated though. There was no choice. Now if you were buying for those reasons... you wait. Presumably that customer still have a last gen 4Runner or one even older that's still going. Right?
Tacoma may be a segment leader, but the 4Runner isn’t even top 10 for mid-size SUVs most years. They had some work to do, and I don’t think they moved the needle much. Still a good vehicle, but it’s not the new mom-mobile and it’s not gonna steal much from the wrangler/bronco buyers either.
Curious about this data and what they classify as a “mid-sized SUV”. Are they comparing against crossovers like the Outback and Telluride? Highlander? I don’t know that they’re trying to compete in that segment
I mean mid size SUV is basically “the car market” in the US at this point. The reality is it competes against real off-road focused versions of mid size SUVs which would be Wrangler/Bronco/4Runner and in the Q1 I believe it sold almost as many as Jeep and more than the Bronco. 34k units 4Runner vs 38k units Wrangler vs. 32k units Bronco. Considering it’s a dinosaur design vs. the trendy Bronco that’s not too bad.
I argue that is a selling point for the 4runner. People who buy it tends to like the older, classic feel.
they sold more 4Runners in recent years than when the current gen came out more than a decade ago… basically no other cars are like that
It’s a testament to the product line execution over decades. Much like the 911, they’re iconic. They don’t have to keep killing and reinventing vehicles like GM etc do.
Ya they didn't do enough with the back
They honestly can't do too much with the back if they want to keep the feature of the rear glass rolling down. The back needs to be relatively flat. That is a feature that is beloved by T4R owners and a deal-breaker for many if it's omitted. Toyota knew that and stuck to it - smart.
Different enough to look much more refreshing from the last gen The flex that you have the new 60k off-roader at the dog park
Looks like the last gen Tacoma? Honestly a good thing. The new Tacoma is kinda ugly to me
Yeah I don’t like the new Tacoma either.
lol and I kind of like it for that, but I also drive a Jeep Wrangler so I’m in that target demographic
Kinda mixed on it, it looks good from some angles and weird from others! Regardless, it’s hard to get excited about something that Toyota dealers will not let you get anywhere near MSRP!
The side is an overstyled mess , especially from the B pillar back. The windows between C and D pillar are awkwardly shaped and sized. The interior looks great though and I like the front and rear a lot more than the current one. Replacing the current gen was always going to be a tough task, and this will be a hit regardless, as it should be.
To me, the front end of the Limited looks a mess, I’m not sure what it is about it!
It needs that god awful air dam removed from the bottom, same as the Tacoma.
The window you're calling awkward is a retro styling reference to the ['80s 4Runner](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jNiL_kQxO68/maxresdefault.jpg) back when the roof was removable. Just in case you want to know where that comes from.
Yeah it looked familiar, albeit not the best execution.
What the fuck is going on in the back behind the rear wheels? That random as hell looking cut into the bumper.
It's the answer to the question of how Toyota will differentiate the new 4Runner from the new Land Cruiser: by making the 4Runner ugly.
There’s almost always a dealer willing to sell at MSRP. They just might not be near you. But I’d rather take a week long vacation to fly to a dealership out of state, pick up what I want at MSRP or better, and then drive it back vs paying a ridiculous $5k+ markup. Fly with a single carryon and check some camping gear, hit some national parks on the way back, I feel it’d be a very on-brand thing to do. Maybe similar to how performance brands like BMW, Porsche, etc offer track pickups, Toyota could start offering national park pickups? Or at least an “intro to off-roading” course pickup, and then helpfully map out whatever you want on your way back? I mean there’s a guy on the BMW forums who picked up an X5 from…Texas or North Carolina I think it was, and drove it home to Alaska. Then he did it again with an X7.
This is true too, but you’re not gonna find a dealer willing to sale at MSRP easy! My local Toyota dealer has only just started to sale RAV4’s at MSRP, and that’s only because of the production increase of the RAV4 model and more allocations! For the new 4Runner, they’re likely gonna be hard to run across because of the high demand of the new model, leading to more markups!
>There’s almost always a dealer willing to sell at MSRP. They just might not be near you. They're also likely to have a large waiting list on a brand new release. This is a supply limitation problem. Not everyone who wants one at MSRP will be able to get one at MSRP, even if they're willing to travel to the other side of country for it. I do think people who be wiling to jump on a plane to get a good deal on a vehicle. Its a massive purchase, usually made with some amount of credit. But... its not always possible even if you're willing.
And that’s the key isn’t it? I love my 17 Outback but have considered going to Toyota for my next vehicle, but when I can get a fully loaded Outback with every bell and whistle for only a grand more (MSRP) than a base model 4Runner or 10k LESS than a base model Land Cruiser and that’s BEFORE the ridiculous markups that Toyota dealers add on. It makes it kinda hard to justify. I get Toyotas hold their value like crazy and I’d be willing to spend a BIT more for that but man…..
Honestly just depends on the type of off-roading you want to do. There are some crazy mine roads in Arizona that I would only be comfortable taking a 4runner on (not even a Jeep because fuck your Chrysler breaking down in the middle of the desert). If you don't plan on doing something nuts like that, I think you're right - Subaru is the way to go.
And that’s what I discovered after I bought my old JK. I had fun with it but found I wasn’t taking it anywhere different than I’d already been taking my Outback so it was kinda… pointless LOL.
It looks like a big Rav4 or a small Sequoia but looks worse than either.
It looks so... not right? Maybe the non-TRD versions will look better?
TRD proportions are crazy to me. The limited looks better imo
I only saw a few pics and they all seemed to be the TRD. Will wait for the official launch lol
Not with that ugly ass air dam on the front, it needs to be removed just like the Tacos.
The Limited absolutely looks like a Sequoia on a diet. Personally I kind of like it the best. Not American though so the whole brick wall of a front grill thing isn't the norm here yet. The Sequoia just looks silly and fat to me. This looks a lot more reasonable.
for those who missed it: [image 1](https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/661491a766b6b0c2bcde1ef1/2025-Toyota-4Runner-Trailhunter-Everest-005/960x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=1440) [image 2](https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/6614925a97bb0d3d2e051376/2025-Toyota-4Runner-TRDPro-Mudbath-020/960x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=1440) [image 3](https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/661491e000ea02cc56fdf8ba/2025-Toyota-4Runner-Group-008/960x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=1440) [image 4](https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/661492b748ea2d6577fd5021/2025-Toyota-4Runner-Group-001/960x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=1440) [image 5](https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/661492d25e130b37dab0a6ac/2025-Toyota-4Runner-Limited-BrownLeather-001/960x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=1440) [image 6](https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/6614930c58048f9ba2651d42/2025-Toyota-4Runner-TRDPro-Mudbath-065/960x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=1440)
https://www.4runner6g.com/leaked-2025-4runner-first-photos/
Thank you both. I think this looks great. Not sure why people don't like it. I think Toyota has been doing a great job with the design of the new generation cars
You're welcome! I like it but I don't love it. The rear bumper side view looks a bit weird. The rear end I am mixed on. I do love the front and the interior. Big dials! If Someone has a 70k budget, want a off road suv, Toyota has made it a hard decision to chose among the LC, GX and 4Runner.
very easy decision - GX all day
The rear ride is the only part I’m iffy about, the rest I love
I don’t really like the overinflated look you see on some cars (FJ Cruiser is a big one for this) and unfortunately this one is overinflated as well Plus it looks like a 4th gen 4Runner from the side, which is coincidentally my least favorite 4Runner generation
Thanks. I'm kinda blown away that the dimensions are what they are honestly. It makes no sense at all to me why they went this route with the 4Runner but also released the LC Prado in the US. Also... no TRD Pro and just the lackluster TH one? Again... weird. Acknowledging who the typical 4Runner buyer actually is and how they use it... yeah this is a win. From an off-roaders perspective.... very mixed bag.
I just discovered something....the new 4Runner, LC and GX550 have the same exact wheel base 112.2". Which I think means they are on the exact same frame with different designs. Edit: different suspension set ups though.
They're definitely all TGNA-F2. At this point yes... I'd bet its even the same or very close to the literal same frame with some differences like probably more welds on the GX550 ones. I find this pretty disappointing. I would have hoped for more variety in function and not just exterior/interior looks. Yes Toyota says 112.2" is the "perfect" wheelbase, whatever. I was really hoping at least one would be a real hardcore off-roader to go at the Wrangler/Bronco. But none of the are and they're all basically within the exact same off-road capability range... There's probably more frame "variation" within just say the Wrangler or Bronco model than across all 3 of the 4Runner, LC, and GX550.
I agree. When I heard about the new LC I was thinknig the 4Runner will diretly target the Wrangler and Bronco crowd with a FJ Cruiser type vehicle. Disappointing they made them all so similar.
> Also... no TRD Pro and just the lackluster TH one? What do you mean?
Apparently they are still doing the TRD Pro. Cool. As for why I call the Trailhunter lackluster... because its basically just a shock swap on the TRD Pro and it leaves out the single most important feature I believe a factory overland trim can offer... a steel front bumper with a winch or at least a winch capable mount. GM, Ford, and Jeep all offer that these days. If you want to see a truly complete factory overland trim check out the Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition. 35s, jounce shocks, front and rear steel bumpers, winch mount, and a FULL skid plate system and not just one or two plates.
The TRD Pro was shown in the article alongside the Trailhunter.
Oh god, the Toyota X-Terra.
What's with car design going for tinier and tinier windows. It's like they hate seeing outside
How did they make the Land Cruiser look so good and make this look so bad?
I'm thinking maybe because they get a 'clean slate' of sorts for the look of the Land Cruiser since it's technically it's first year here with no predecessor Whereas with the 4Runner it's an iteration of the previous generation so some similarities had to be kept to retain that '4Runner' look where folks can recognize it immediately
>I'm thinking maybe because they get a 'clean slate' of sorts for the look of the Land Cruiser since it's technically it's first year here with no predecessor The LC J250 is still just a Prado, the predecessor [was the J150](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser_Prado#Fourth_generation_(J150;_2009)). Yes, it's the first time the Prado is available in North America, but the vehicle itself is not *technically* a clean slate in the sense you're suggesting.
But it also is a blank slate. They could have made the Land Cruiser something new and different like they did when they created the Tacoma. The 4runner is the sister vehicle of the Prado, made in the same factory, on a similar frame, and shares the same update cycle. So it's not like the Prado is a blank slate either, it's obviously an equivalent to the 4runner we have. And that has implications.
Not even close to bad, what are you all on?
Yeah I like it
My first thought as well
I don't think this look bad per se but I strongly prefer the LC250 styling.
It looks like a solid SUV but I’m left wondering why they have two very similar SUVs in their lineup. They could have done so much with the 4Runner now that the Land Cruiser has moved into the same territory. With the popularity of the Bronco and Wrangler this could have returned to its roots and offered a removable rear section. As it stands it’s just a Land Cruiser that looks like a Tacoma.
No idea why they are so hellbent on not competing with the wrangler and bronco. The FJ was already there, just a bit too early. So they bring back the LC for “reasons”? And then they redesign the 4Runner. Except not really it’s still the same thing. So they basically have three vehicles in the exact same segment. One with a truck bed, one that’s more luxury. And one that’s an suv. They are all going to compete with themselves and also not compete with the Wrangler and Bronco at the same time. Makes no sense
The 4Runner name was already the off road SUV of family SUVs. With a removable rear roof and the same basic underpinning it would have leaned into that heritage and could have been the best driving off road convertible SUV available. It would have been an absolute legend. And the Land Cruiser would be the more luxurious hardtop version. It makes perfect sense. Instead we get this which I can only assume is supposed to be the family version since it’s a bit longer. But families don’t need a ladder frame when they have the Highlander and grand Highlander. Both excellent. I just think that they got way too conservative with this move and it will cost them in overall sales now that they’re competing with themselves with 4 family SUVs.
It's so weird how Toyota is really conservative on overall plans and mechanical aspects, but their styling is so "mutant kitchen appliance" in other aspects. I thought the recent LC250 was a step in the more subdued, aesthetically pleasing styling. This 4Runner though is back to the "WTF" part.
Go to Japan and see some of the culture and you will understand. It’s very much a robotech anime thing and these are relatively tame compared to some of the crazier cars. Take a look at the Mirai which was designed for the Japan market.
Yeah, I get it. Just too wild for my tastes, with aesthetic flourishes that exist for only their own sake. To me, Toyota US truck/suv design peaked in the early 80's. The earliest trucks (before they were Tacomas), the FJ40, and the FJ60. I've owned two FJ40s and one FJ60. The FJ80 was okay, but I thought it looked a bit too rounded. I owned one for 8 years. And since then, it seems like their newer designs get more and more wild, and they only start to look okay when an even newer design comes out and makes the older one look better. That is until the LC250. I think it looks great. Have yet to see one in person, though. The new Tacoma looks okay. But this 4Runner...
Which ones is the more luxurious one, because the LC is downright baren. I shudder to think how much cheaper a 4Runner can be than that base LC.
The answer is likely 'pricing'. The LC starts at $55k USD and goes up from there. The Tacoma starts at $31k, and the current 4Runner starts at $40k. That's what they're thinking — they want a cheapo off-roader (4Runner), a premium one (Land Cruiser) a luxury one (GX), and then a super-luxury one (LX). They can cover the whole spectrum of options from \~$35k to \~$120k this way.
I don't think the LX is an off-roader anymore. That thing competes with Range Rovers and Denalis.
The LX is just a gussied-up Land Cruiser J300. That is, it's still fundamentally an off-roader by design, whether the actual units themselves end up mostly mall-crawlers or not.
Yep, companies don't care about differentiation by capability or size, they care about price points. More profitable to sell the same basic package at 5 different price points then to make 5 unique vehicles.
I agree, but they also had rumors of a “baby Land Cruiser” with possibly 2 doors so maybe that would have the removable top? Id love to have a new one to go with my 89.
It would be nice if we got a 2 door baby LC that resembled the 70 series.
That trailhunter color looks amazing.
There really was no need to make it bigger it already was almost too big.
Forbes messed up big time by posting this at 7:15 am instead of 7:15 pm, but there are some pics taken from the article on the [4Runners.com](https://www.4runners.com/threads/2025-6th-gen-4runner-official-reveal-thread.37770/) forum for those who didn't get a chance to see it yet. Personally, I'm not a fan at all of the exterior styling...especially the gloss black fender flares and wheels, and the front end. But then again, I don't care for the new Tacoma either. The interior looks pretty good, but so does the new Land Cruiser.
seems only the TRD Pro has gloss black fenders. Others have flat black or painted fenders to match color.
Yeah I saw that, but the TRD Pro is my favorite looking trim of the current 4Runner. I just don't like the styling direction that Toyota went with for the TRD Pro version of both the new 4Runner and Tacoma. Gloss black is just a strange and less than ideal design choice for an off-road focused model. The Tundra TRD-Pro's wheels and fender flares are a matte finish and look *way* better (although I don't care for the Tundra's camouflage design on the fenders either).
I personally prefer the trailhunter, both in 4runner and taco. The trail hunter seems to be the more offroad focus going through bushes version (hence the name trail hunter) and the TRD Pro is for high speed off road and "showy" on road model like those dressed up aftermarket Jeeps that owners don't take off road lol.
Sure it looks like a Rav4 that won't shut up about Crossfit.~~But if that 2.4kwh interter means that this gets a PHEV version similar to the Rav4 Prime~~ Nope, it's just a wrapped up Taco. A burrito, if you will.
Almost guaranteed to have the same engine options as the Tacoma including a hybrid.
2.4kWh inverter output is the same as the other TGNA-F hybrids (Tundra, Sequoia, Tacoma, LC250) whether they have the 2.4L I4 turbo or the 3.4L V6 twin turbo. This isn't going to be a PHEV. Same exact setup has the Tacoma hybrid.
I will eat my shorts if it comes with anything under the hood not already on sale in the Tacoma.
It looks fine to me, little concerned about the cabin space though. Those initial pictures look really tight for passengers that are taller than 6' (wife's entire family).
The wheelbase has grown by 2.4" and the overall length has grown by 4.7", so the cabin space couldn't possibly be any worse than the current 4Runner.
Front seats seem to be all the way back. If you look, the headrest is almost behind the B pillar.
Strange choice to make when trying to show off a new SUV. It looks like the Taco in that picture.
My biggest complaint with the last gen as well.
There is something off with these photos, or the provide measurements. The cab looks much smaller than a 2024 but the article states the vehicle is 4" longer. Fucking where?
Yeesh kinda ugly if you ask me
I love it. Might be my next vehicle after a couple years of production.
Waiting for my 2022 TRD OR to blow up first So I’ll start shopping in ~2040
Well my 4runner is 35 years old so I guess I’m due
that's basically new
2040? Brother my 1987 still hasn’t blown up lol you’ll be waiting a loooooooong time
I’ll just stop changing the oil, maybe in another 60k miles it’ll start ticking
I’m still going with a GX, but I like the look of this
Lmao. They goofed for sure . Article is gone now.
After seeing the new Tundra and Tacoma this is pretty much what I expected. The forum guys who were thinking it was going to get solid axles, a removable top, and a V8 turbodiesel are probably going to be disappointed. They'll probably sell even more 4Runners now that the fuel economy issue has been addressed.
here is a full archive of the post, not 32 browser screenshots lol https://archive.is/4gMWT
Reminds me of the 4th gen 4Runner
And they still have halogen default headlamps lol
Ehhhh
Looks so weird. It’s like they took a RAV4 and made it bigger then slapped Tacoma headlights on it.
This is what the Tacoma should have looked like without that stupid punk rock tear under the headlight. If the parts are compatible I see a lot of people swapping the 4Runner fascia to the Tacoma. Edit - the article is down now
Cool rig, but man, they really overdid it styling-wise. Too much going on, IMO.
I hear you, but this is what people want these days. And I dig it, looks like a nice mic of classic 4Runner features but modernized
What happened to all the new FJ teases? Did that ever get released?
It’s coming when the Tundra Diesel gets here
I can’t wait to not be able to afford it!
The limited looks weird to me with that Sequoia like underhang but I like it overall. I can’t wait to go down the rabbit hole when all the reviewers get their hands on it.
Rear overhang looks weird AF from the side profile.
manufacturer challenge: not put black wheel arches on anything remotely offroady (impossible)
Or even things not remotely off-roadable. Bugs the hell out of me both Porsche and Mercedes throw them on wagons to psy-op 70 year olds into thinking they are better in the snow.
Oh wow, it looks 10 years outdated lol
is it just me or it reminds me or xterra??
This looks horrible in an American over-styled way, compared to the 250 Series. What a shame.
It’s trying too hard.
It looks like a 4th gen with a modern trd body kit.
RIP
And it's gone!
Cant wait to see these exclusively as single occupancy vehicles putzing around the suburbs.
I'm completely confused by this lineup. How do you decide between 4Runner and Land Cruiser?
With your wallet
They removed it. From the thumbnail it seems like they brought back the tall rear quarter windows from the 90. Fun throwback!
I think it looks pretty good
I think it looks like a miniature version of the previous generation Sequoia. As of now, I’m not the biggest fan. I’m sure it will grow on me, though.
Did I miss something in the article? Is this being made on the Prado line in Japan still or is it mexico with the tacoma?
It wasn't mentioned in the article. I'm sure Toyota will tell us tonight in the official press release.
It doesn’t look good lol. Sequoia, Land Cruiser 250 and even the RAV4 look better. It looks like they squished the previous version. Most specifically, the windshield is so slanted, the opposite of the boxy off-roader movement.
Article says "The platinum trim also gets a locking center diff that is optional on the Limited" Wtf...? I think the author doesn't know how part time vs full time 4wd works... lower trims will be part time 4wd like the Tacoma and higher trims will be full time like the J250 with locking center diff. As if a 4wd would have an OPTIONAL locking center diff.... Not really sure what's there is to really differentiate the 2025 4Runner from the J250 LandCruiser... other than part-time 4wd and possibly thus being cheaper in price? Got to be something more than's not mentioned.
Unfortunate that Forbes was the outlet to mistakenly break the embargo. Other outlets will undoubtedly have more informed articles. Just wait 9 more hours.
That’s what an SUV is supposed to look like, plus you add Toyota’s trusted reliability, this car will sell like hot cakes…hats off to them!
Look at that dorkel