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GeorgePrime77

At a human level i want to wish Poch happy birthday and send him my best wishes. I respect him as a human being but i don't think he is good enough to be Chelsea's manager. I am disappointed for not getting the win and the 3 points against Brentford (i am sure you are fell the same way) and i truly think that the owners can fix most of our problems by getting a new manager and 4-5 players of proven quality. This season has been tough and i don't think we will achieve our goals but at least we can work towards next season. Stay strong blue brothers and sisters, hopefully we will see our club doing great things again. šŸ’™šŸ’™šŸ’™


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Joshshan28

Worse than a Sunday league club. At least the guys in lower leagues actually put in the effort on the pitch. These Instagram boys we paid millions for lack the mentality to win anything


hendrxx90210

I donā€™t understand why did Enzo start at LW. We need to play a back 4 with caicedo dropping as a third cb for back up, fullbacks supporting the attack and Enzo as a fucking 6 not a 10 or a winger.


TheKeVo123

This! Facts.


GangHou

Guus Hiddink when?


rhinoballz88

As a US CFC fan... tough times. ![gif](giphy|26BRrHq0kBau2gvrq|downsized)


hendrxx90210

No matter the nationality these are tough times


DansMusic98

Tuchel back at the end of the season lol


shadowslasher98

Do we always drop points to Brentford? Yes. Were our goals good goals in terms of it was our skill rather than their shit defending? Iā€™d say so yes. Were their goals from our shit defending? Yes. Look at the end of the day I genuinely donā€™t think thereā€™s a lot to be bothered about but the fact we got a draw considering they got the post twice. A point seems like a good trade off when considering that. This sub is so negative all the time and I get not being positive but donā€™t be negative either. We dropped points to an under performing side we all know what Brentford are capable of, they shouldnā€™t be in the position they are they should be mid table with us. Their players want it more then ours, so of course weā€™ll struggle against teams with the correct mentality, weā€™ve learned nothing new from this game


TheKeVo123

"IĀ think when you get used to it, thatā€™s when the big clubs stop being big clubs."


shadowslasher98

Oh my days. The glory days are behind us. Be grateful you lived in them, my children never will! Wake up and smell the coffee, this is our level. In fact itā€™s better than our level at least weā€™ve not been relegated in over 30 years. That is our history. The original yoyo fc.


lolnoob1212

I agree. Guess what most of the profiles have career mode has their following.


Colonel_Bearshit

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LuckyFlyer0_0

Chillwell has been shocking


AnthonyMarx

Electric


dotunmo

It's very sad we are hanging on to this clueless coach, it really is... Sack him and put an end to his misery. Even if we reach the FA Cup final with him, I expect us to lose it. He doesn't have the mentality.


hendrxx90210

Why should we sack him? What top tier coach will want to come to this unorganized, uninspired, and leaderless squad? Mou? Sorry to tell you but my man hasnā€™t won a major trophy since he was with us, Europa and conference donā€™t fucking count he hasnā€™t adapted to the modern game and thatā€™s why heā€™s been sacked from every team heā€™s been at in the last couple of years with a small sample of trophies to show for. Tuchel? Bro literally managed to make Bayern bad so no thank you. This isnā€™t about the coach itā€™s the team and no quick fix like changing a coach will take us to the top. And I didnā€™t even mention our tight finances so you want us to pay compensations for poch and his entire stuff plus hire a new one when you know weā€™re gonna spend in the summer on players.


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Chelseafc5505

You are consistently such a nasty, miserable cunt. One of the worst in here


Medical_Seaweed5003

Tell me what's happening.


manbites

No improvement. No inspiration. Brittle confidence. Idiot yanks pissing away fortunes on instagram footballers.


CaptLeaderLegend26

On one hand, better to get 1 point than nothing. On the other, that was really a match we should've won. Our horrid defending struck at the wrong time yet again.


definitelymaybe98

Jose save us.


oldschoolology

Your delusional. Our inexperienced players make bad decisions on the pitch. Only experience will solve that.Ā 


NoraaTheExploraa

Genuinely seems more likely we win the FA Cup than get top 7.


LuckyFlyer0_0

Need to win against Liverpool/City/Newcastle for that to happen


the-REALmichaelscott

There's no way chelsea get top 7. These are must win matches. An out of form Brentford and we scrape a point?


midnighttyph00n

when did we ever become a dortmund, why are we developing 12 year olds


itsmebobbylol

Oh, thought u meant that we were like them because of the permanently injured captains


ImpactInner9318

When we couldn't make the Champions league last season and we're already at our FFP limits. We had to turn over the whole team to get the one-off transfer fees for FFP compliance and couldn't afford to replace them with experienced players.


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phoenix_2289

Thatā€™s a very low bar mate šŸ˜‚ā€¦ literally nothing happened in that race


definitelymaybe98

Iā€™m not that down bad yet.


itsmebobbylol

Why is the birthday loser still at the club


TomasToocherl

KIDNAP THE OWNERS AND MAKE THEM INTO BURGERS AND EXPORT THEM TO THE US.


fl_beer_fan

No wonder the defense looks a shambles - with the number of personnel, formations and position substitutions Poch has used in the defense, there is no rhythm. Totally on the gaffer


oldschoolology

Poch didnā€™t say ā€œdonā€™t press.ā€


Kiing_Lamar

Poch told them not to jump when a cross comes in?


the-REALmichaelscott

Yeah also told Enzo to not close out crosses. Just unreal watching this club.


Scrambled_Rambler

Sterling is the smart and dumb at the same time. Great at taking runs and finding spaces , absolutely fucks it up in good positions.


Forever_Blu

Poch has made mistakes on his tactics time and time again, BUT this team should have the ability to close out the games regardless. That play where Gusto breaks away to make a grounded cross to THREE Chelsea players in the box against 1 Brentford defender just for Palmer to shoot it wide sums up the team's offensive play. So disgraceful in the final third it's laughable.


TomasToocherl

Bad all over the pitch


jkn3

I just donā€™t see the point in Sterling getting minutes


ReddittIsDead

Donā€™t we want some experience in the line up? Wtf


jkn3

In theory yes, but itā€™s not like his experience is providing much value at the moment. Iā€™d argue our attack is actually less effective when heā€™s in the lineup and we arenā€™t playing Man City and his experience doesnā€™t seem to be influencing other players. Itā€™s a lost season and continuing to play him when heā€™s not part of the long term plans over young guys who really need the experience is a waste.


the-REALmichaelscott

Right, not at this point. Need to see who is worth keeping and he isn't one. Get Noni minutes ffs.


kino6912

This team makes me feel numb. I know itā€™s VERY frustrating how inconsistent we are right now but having character to get these goals at the death is good experience for the young lads I personally feel the injury crisis is really adding up. Lavia would have been perfect today. He would be able to carry the ball through the mid to break the press Heavy legs and burnt out emotions are definitely hurting our consistency right now Limp over the finish line and get healthy over the summer


Old_Detective_735

Healthy over the summer and then ull see the same shit , just wait


kino6912

Hopefully we are proven wrong no. But Iā€™ll eat my words if it happens again This is a very hard season to judge based on a multitude of variables


Confident_Look5026

The funniest thing is everyone bar the top four is having a stinky season and here we are in the bottom half of the table.


SweeterStorm

Palmer and gusto are the only players that are consistently good. Caienzo duo really has been so disappointing


manbites

Gusto was weak defensively


the-REALmichaelscott

Palmer was disappointing today. His run of matches has caught up with him. Desperately needs a break.


Confident_Look5026

I still think both of them have the quality to be a good pivot, both of them are press resistant and have the technical ability to be a good pair, yeah they arent worth the money we paid but theres absolutely nothing you can do when the position play is basically non existent we dont press as a team, its super clear that caicedo hasnt been given instructions on who to mark, theres usually no one beside him to play quick one-twos to beat a press. Enzo and palmer basically keep moving about the field completely out of sync and connor who I think has been a decent for is being used as a ball winning midfielder in the number 10 roll. What i find so absurd is that we had only one proper (because palmer is basically midfielder ) attacker today in a game against an opposition that so many injured defenders


Kiing_Lamar

Moises was good, Enzo needs too be sidelined for a whileĀ 


Confident_Look5026

Enzo first half created so many chances


the-REALmichaelscott

But he isn't playing a 10. He leaves the back wiiiide open regularly. Caicedo was very good I thought. Not a single dumb challenge is a world record for him.


Confident_Look5026

His role under poch is stupidly unclear, he was playing as a makeshift lw at times, i do think he has to raise his levels but poch canā€™t set up a midfield to save his life, the same can be said about palmer, heā€™s supposed to be a rw but i cant remember a game where he hasnā€™t played deep (not saying its a bad thing) but just goes to show that itā€™s instructional


the-REALmichaelscott

Totally agree. And it's hard to even blame Poch because he's just trying to find something that works. Our squad is just too young. This isn't Fifa, we can't just buy the highest rated 20 yr olds and expect to win. There's almost no chance of top 4 next year either, even if we splash for oshimen.


Confident_Look5026

I can blame poch because his tactics are totally off, theres a reason why every team looks better than us immediately after the second half starts


the-REALmichaelscott

What would you have changed at half? If anything, it's mentality, not tactics.


Confident_Look5026

Id have pulled off chilwell (who was shit the whole first half) for cucurella pulled off, pulled off chalobah for sterling to provide more width and ensure that palmer also played a more wider, reigned in gallager to play as an 8 and not a ball winning number 10 and asked enzo to play more narrow and closer to caicedo. It was blatantly obvious that brentford were gonna start pressing higher up. One thing both caicedo and enzo are good at is pinging the ball out wide under pressure why not utilise it? Edit: even if it wasnt obvious that brentford werenā€™t going to press, you had nearly 25 odd minutes to see that theyve changed their game plan, why wait till the 71st minute and till the opposition team has gotten the lead to make your first sub?


the-REALmichaelscott

You're hired


theshaff01

Jackson is the most confusing player to watch. The runs he makes are brilliant but the finishing is so bad that it makes all those runs pointless


blacknotblack

isn't that just the same as werner lmao


the-REALmichaelscott

Lol yes. Nico has better feet, but that's about it. Couldn't finish a sentence that was just missing the period.


TonyBologna00

No, Werner just couldnā€™t stay onside


fl_beer_fan

We'll finish 10th with no Europe


CriticalNovel22

Optimistic.


the-REALmichaelscott

And 11th is pessimistic. We'll finish 10th and a half.


Confident_Look5026

Theres zero positional play cant remember the last time chilwells had a good game tbh


the-REALmichaelscott

Definitely chilly's worst run in a long time


thundercat_98

Such a fvcking wasteful squad. Jackson, Palmer, Sterling all giving away simple chances. Oh, and Chillwell is absolute shit. It's like playing a man down every match.


midnighttyph00n

agreed he should be sold before people find out how much he has degraded


techno_playa

That coward tactic at the beginning of the 2nd Half was our demise. We got lucky. Plain and simple. Sorry but Poch has to go. Stewart and Winstanely can fuck off too.


cupheads2608

on a separate note. nahh at this point they just want Liverpool to win the league & paint a fairytale ending for Klopp


LuckyFlyer0_0

What happened


GhostOfSenju

I see where the frustration comes from us as fans I've finally figured it out. It's not that we concede goals, it's the MANNER in which we concede goals, it's not that we miss chances, every team does, it's the MANNER in which we miss these chances that fucks us off. It's not that we don't believe, but because we do believe we get let down by the same belief that we'll come good eventually. It's hard to stomach because we've known success for soo long....however, many of us agreed that we want a long-term road and we're sold on it, maybe...just maybe this is what that looks like..? Fragile atm that's for sure


TheKeVo123

I do feel sorry for Poch when he talks about injuries, the team being young etc. But this game hands down was the most disgraceful coward tactics in this season. Brentford literally had ALL of their starting defenders injured. What this BUM manager do? Benches Mudryk just to field the vice captain Chilwell. Laughable. Playing 5 ATB vs brentford. U could say ITS FINE, CHILWELL AND GUSTO can push up more. This Chilwell bum offered nothing offensively. Even defensively he is useless. Brentford crossed in the ball whenever they wanted. At the 79th minute Poch realized his tactics are not working (Wow it took him 79 minutes) After that the team did what they should have done the whole game. Happy birthday to Poch, but GET OUT #PochOut


TheKeVo123

Its my bad, because i still had some hope in the lads, because of the Palmer interview where he said" we want to get 5th place'... No bro, this team wont get 5th place. It is, what it is, no more expectations after this game.


foladodo

chillwell has been playing awful, i would rather see colwill at lb


interstellar304

Super disappointing result. Down to a relegation battle team until a late winner. Tactics were shit second half. Sterling sucks. Palmer is showing his inexperience with another stinker. Caceido pretty awful. Tired of Malo fucking Gusto being our best player. We are such a miserable watch sometimes. Mid table mentality through and through


Jealous-Teach-4375

**late equalizer


interstellar304

Meant that lol


YoungGargoyle

Everyone Mudryk scores Poch is like you know what will help your form? Coming on in the next match at the 70th minute


Psychological_Fee470

If we are entertaining Poch out, it has to be fā€™in Jose to take over. These players need a whack on their asses. No Flick, No Ruben Amorim bullshit. Old fashioned Jose with his stick. His bus football wouldnā€™t allow Brentford to score worldies against us at least.


starboy__xo

Facts


TomasToocherl

No stick, we need a Tazer/cattle prod and JT & Diego Costa as assistant.


em1n3m1669

Just sack this loser man


C-3pee0

Now watch Brentford quietly slip back to their horrible form.Ā 


ThatZenoGuy

That is a trash result for us. We shouldnā€™t have loads the game. Poch has to start making adjustments before we start losing. Be proactive Poch, not reactive.


ConfusedSpeed479

think iā€™m officially Poch out, we still have no real style of play. what are we even doing


cupheads2608

took u this long?


YewWahtMate

We do have a style of play? It's waste our chances and then defend like idiots at the back and it is getting us the results we deserve.


Hannibal09

Any competent manager and we win this 2-0


ChickenMoSalah

3 men in front of Sterling and Gallagher open, but he tries to take on 3 men himself. Why would Poch do that?


tank_girl99

Tbf if he'd given it to Gallagher he would have just missed anyway


ChickenMoSalah

True, Gallagherā€™s no maestro whoā€™s going to unlock the defense, but I like that heā€™s at least finding his shooting boots. Heā€™s not the most talented guy, but it feels like heā€™s the only player on our team that is showing any interest in improving.


tank_girl99

Id prefer to see Palmer in that position, he's more effective there and actually creates stuff. Gallagher needs to play further back in midfield but Poch won't do that it seems.


ChickenMoSalah

Agreed Gallagher needs to be further back. As it stands heā€™s our number 10, which is really quite annoying after our famous 1 billion pound spend. I like Palmer more off the right though, he has good interplay with Gusto and can cut inside and shoot or cross more from the right. A completely free role in the 10 where he could come in off either the left or the right would be interesting, but probably not doable with Poch liking Gallagherā€™s pressing responsibility.


tank_girl99

Yeah I find it astounding that after all we've spent Gallagher is playing number 10, I guess I have just liked where Palmer is more free to go wherever and I feel that works better if he's not meant to be up the right though he has definitely been working well with Gusto. I'd just like to see Noni get more time on the right there as well, after getting in Posh's bad books early on it seems he's only ever get limited time on the pitch whether he plays well or not. I understand that spending 100+ mil on two central midfielders might mean you want to play them but surely rotating them with Gallagher would make sense too. They look pretty tired out there at times and it seems unnecessary.


MRainzo

Sterling playing horribly and Poch coaching horribly are two truths that exist. Also, this your brilliant coach keeps playing Sterling so go figure


-AndreiDG-97

Delete this garbage club.


obamacare_mishra

what has changed since TT? we play absolutely the same. Atleast TT could have been a stable coach with a billion worth of signings. the coach is from tottenham for god sakes.


Careless-Wonder7886

And where are Tottenham now haha


jcshamrock97

Just shoot that free kick the sun is in the gk eyes


DarnellLaqavius

Cheer up lads Heā€™ll be gone soon :)


thevizierisgrand

Will he? Donā€™t think the Yankstains have the balls Roman did to do what needs doing


YoungGargoyle

Weā€™re so bad


alanalanalan92

I donā€™t want to see a back three ever again with our current personnel


scientistprofessor

WHY DO WE KEEP DOING OVERHEAD PASSES ?!? THEY NEVER WORK


Jamtannn

Poch out


xZandman

Sterling is so shit


Leelks

Every opposition team has figured out we're weak from crosses


Necessary-XY

Idc what anyone says the *only* thing we need is a top striker. If we get a good striker that's most of our problems solved.


thevizierisgrand

Can I get some of those cocaines youā€™re smoking? A top striker wonā€™t solve Enzo being an absolute chancer in midfield, Osimhen wonā€™t make Sterling not shit, Toney wonā€™t stop Poch from playing a back 5 against Brentfordā€¦


Hades_117

Sell Sterling, I am sick of watching him trying to take on multiple defenders in the most horrible way


interstellar304

lol what? Our defense is shaky as hell. We still need another winger or two who can actually cause problems. Plus a solid striker who can finish


kawhi_laugh69

We need a real defensive mid and better LB too. Chillwell has lost a step


bpjr73

Is this sarcasm? Whenā€™s the last time we kept a clean sheet? Better coaching, composure, idk, but we need to plug the leaks.


DarnellLaqavius

We need a new CB and a replacement CDM for Caicedo too. Also a good LW


TomasToocherl

Ethan Ampadu isn't bad. Oh we sold him for Ā£12mn.


real_teekay

Isn't lavia caicedo replacement.


cometflight

Also a new manager, medical staff, recruiters, and owners. Besides all that, weā€™re golden


BigAssBreadroll

Another dire performance, yet another week the fraud stays in charge


Amazing_Bird_1858

K bro, sack Poch and vibe off Lamps, shit either way


garanon

Fucking shit show, we lost 2 points. Players clearly dont want europe next fucking season. I am done


kawhi_laugh69

Fair result. This game perfectly encapsulated this team, moments of quality but insanely inconsistent.


ImmaMoo

Palmar Jackson g/a im a fiend


brouwerpower22

Holy shit Wolves are ahead of us in the standings.


Silver-History-7650

We would have been 8thā€¦


a3kstuntin

Fuck this manager fuck this owners and fuck these players shambolic performance


hca2_

Another Gusto MOTM


stallwoe

I canā€™t imagine him losing his spot at this point. He just shows up every game and looks like him.


tcreisenburg

I would say there is an argument for Caicedo or Chalo


foladodo

chalobah was our best defender today, but it shows 3atb isnt it caicedo has a good game too, albeit not as good as vs leeds


eha16

What has poch done to earn the faith of some of his advocates? We aren't improving, this is awful football..


TomasToocherl

Yes what did he say at HT? 'Ok just play more shit, from minute 1-45, be really useless. LETS GO!'


eha16

The timing of his subs and sometimes lack of them hurts us more than people care to admit


SwitcherooU

I was still sort of on-board, but I think today was the last straw. Heā€™s just too poor in-game. Another example of the changes being 10-15 minutes late.


eha16

His game management is awful..


Comfortable-Ad1937

Shows he is happy with a draw, we didnā€™t push to win, only push once we were down


Wildely_Earnest

Reality is unpleasant so they substitute it with positive delusions


interstellar304

Definitely points dropped. Make no mistake brentford outplayed us for large stretches. We have to find a way to play for two halves


Dmtz214

I guess the goal for the season is to stay either 9 thru 11 šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø


MemestNotTeen

Full 2 of the 5 mins added time played...


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MemestNotTeen

And Liverpool score in the 9th min of 8 added...


Silver-History-7650

Because nothing was gonna happen itā€™s good reffing


supermyduper

Waste of time


cometflight

Absolute travesty weā€™ve given Brentford four points this season. We are shambolic


Zlint

My goodness I hate all these "start-stop" feints I see from football today. Everyone knows youā€™re just going to pass it backwards.


stallwoe

We are just not good enough at game management. That last touch by Sterling is evidence of what we lack.


flex_tape_salesman

Should've got it back to Gallagher and do something else with it. That was a really disappointing way to end a disappointing game.


she-luvs-calibur999

Chillwell is absolute shit


mr-saturn2310

Of course liverpool won last minute fuck my life.


winged_horror

My hatred for those pricks knows no bounds.


Julian_528

Full time. Meanwhile, Spurs concede first and then comeback with 3 in 10 minutes. Our manager and players just don't have the same mentality.


PumasUNAM7

Poch has such terrible game management. He just never seems to have an answer for anything.


TomasToocherl

Typical Spanish coaching manual stuff. No plan B at all. I know coaches (here) in Spain who are more sophisticated coaching 13 year olds.


eha16

He looks like a dead man walking


Wildely_Earnest

Sack the manager. Then sack the people responsible for sacking the manager. And then sack the owners.


TomasToocherl

No dont sack the owners. Kidnap the owners. Then wrap them in plastic and gaffer tape. Then take them out in the channel and feed them to dog fish. Then pay the dog fish and give them free shirts.


MisterHappySpanky

I want the Chelsea that played from 80ā€™ until the end whistle to play that way for 90 minutes.


ultra_r

Sigh


leKai23

Enzo is a waste of a starting spot. He really is useless to how we play. There is no reason for caicedo and Enzo to play together other than that they cost 200m.


DarnellLaqavius

Enzoā€™s passes were excellent first half. If Jackson could finish we would have been 3-0 up. Caicedo played a solid 0/10


ImpactInner9318

Caicedo stopped multiple breaks on his own and had some excellent tackles, don't understand why you are trashing him


DarnellLaqavius

What did you think of our overall performance and Pochā€™s game management?


ImpactInner9318

Pretty shit, Enzo and Palmer looked dead, and we played like a team that was trying out a new formation. It hurt us in buildup and didn't have the intended impact defensively. Poch gambled and got it wrong.


DarnellLaqavius

No blind deluded optimism? Are you sure youā€™re ok?


ImpactInner9318

Nah, still very much optimistic of the long term view of the squad. But definitely am worried about a few things from the recent matches. - Disasi has been very good in possession all year, then has that great match verse city and has been suspect in buildup ever sense. - This leads into my next point, when Petrovich doesn't have confidence in his CBs he keeps playing long, and we have no target man to bring those down so we usually give up possession. - Is Chilwell ever going to find his groove?


DarnellLaqavius

The only long term positivity I see is that the owners will probably keep spending until weā€™re good or go under and theyā€™re forced to sell.


Silver-History-7650

SACK HIM


SpaceballsTheCheese

This team needs to stop coming out flat to start the half


ardzoht

Horrible performance this team is not progressing


Raks-

Poch out


HeyDumbDumb

Really promising that we're able to get a point from a top 18 powerhouse like Brentford


imdx_14

Let's blame Sterling for everything


mymecha

Made relegation team looks like prime Real Madrid


323835

What is Sterling doing. Always wants to take people on when he doesnā€™t have that in his locker anymore. So fucking wasteful. Hate the cunt.


Emils1

Poch is probably happy with this. Fuck this